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- The Roland MC-101 is a very powerful Groovebox and it pack a ton of features. What’s really nice is that the MC-101 is also USB Audio and MIDI class compliant and can connect to both iPad and iPhone. This is great since the 101 doesn’t feature audio inputs, nor can one chop samples on it. Well the iPad and iPhone are excellent sound sources and one can also chop sounds on them. On this video I am showing you how to connect the them up for audio recording and how to import samples, all done over USB. I’m also giving tips of some useful apps.
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⏰ TIME STAMPS ⏰
0:00 Why connect MC-101 to an iDevice
1:11 Adapters and Power
2:01 Connection
2:48 How it works
3:53 Recording audio
7:21 Importing samples
11:09 iPad or iPhone as a sound source
13:48 a recommendation
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👊🏼 TIME STAMPS + IMPORTANT INFO
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YOU NEED TO SET the MC-101 to [Generic mode] and your firmware should be at least version 1.6. [SHIFT] + [UTILITY] then [SYSTEM SETTINGS], scroll forward to [USB Drv.] Select that and then scroll to [Generic], select that and reboot the MC-101.
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⏰ TIME STAMPS
0:00 Why connect MC-101 to an iDevice
1:11 Adapters and Power
2:01 Connection
2:48 How it works
3:53 Recording audio
7:21 Importing samples
11:09 iPad or iPhone as a sound source
13:48 a recommendation
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⚡️LIGHTNING ADAPTERS & POWER
WHY do you need extra power to connect the MC-101 to an iDevice with a lightning adapter. Well I’ve measured how much USB power that the MC-101 needs in order to run and that number is 350mA.
The CCK (MD821AM/A) allows up to 180mA output from an iPad or an iPhone before iOS detects an overload and shuts of the connection.
The Lightning to USB 3 (MK0W2AM/A) adapter allows for up to 180mA without a charger connected. With a charger the adapter allows for up to between 280mA-300mA shutting down the connecting.
Sweet tutorial Haq - thanks
I didn’t realise how small the 101 was until I saw it next to your iPad. Thats a nicely portable little thing!
Yeah it's great! It's like a mini workstation with 4 channels and it fits in an Ikea toiletry bag. It's the most production power you can get for the money and size I think apart from an iPad.
Swedish moo you are the finest of the musical cows 🐄🐄🐄🤘🤘
Picked up a second hand 101, you’ve answered everything I needed to know.
iPad and 101 seem to be made for each other ❤, let alone how awesome the zen engine sounds.
Thanks for this video dude. I’m trying to see if I need the MC 101 and how it could fit in my workflow, this helps loads!
Thank you for this video. Lots of useful information here 🙏
Awesome setup 💖💖💖
very interesting and useful video - Thanks 👍
Another super to easy follow tutorial!
Great review. Thanks.
thank you so much for this, the usb driver deal was making me insane,
TY! I couldn't find these instructions anywhere else!!!
Thanks for this tutorial.
@Jakob, thx for the great video as usual. I would add a few of tips/additions :
- There is one step missing I believe : you need to set your MC-101 in Generic (Class Compliant) mode and you have to have one of the recent firmware versions (I think minimum for Class Compliant v1.3), otherwise the iPhone/iPad will not recognize it.
- You don't need a hub as far as the iPad with USB-C is concerned : you may just use a USB-C/B cable. Of course a hub can be a confort if you want to connect MIDI controllers at the same time.
- You don't need a sound card to record from the MC to the iPhone/iPad : the sound card of the MC-101 is bi-directional. Though it will only send the master when in Generic mode, but it's already the case when going through the physical outs to an audio interface.
Keep up your great work on making producing on iOS/iPad OS accessible ;)
I saw another comment about setting up the generic mode. I think it’s a case of me not remembering that I did that back when USB audio class compliance became a thing.
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I completely forgot to mention that you need a newer firmware. I had planned to say something about it. It’s why I added the bit about being able to upgrade with an iDevice by adding the firmware to the SD card over usb. Pretty neat to be able to do this m.
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Me adding the bit about the sound interface was not to suggest that you need it in order to record the MC-101. It was to add a way of recording other sounds into the iDevice (sampling stuff and chopping it up on the iDevice for use with the MC-101). I could have been more clear on that. I’ll keep it in mind for future videos. 👍🏼
Thanks for the tips and feedback!
I’ve added info on the missing step I. The pinned comment, thanks for the tip!
@@JakobHaq No worries. That doesn’t remove any of the pleasure watching your videos. You got talent my friend.
For the sound card, it was worth mentioning indeed. It’s crazy the things you can do with a sound card connected to an iPad.
Eying the just released Roland Go Mixer Pro X which adds a couple of additional I/Os compared to the previous Go Mixer Pro by making the jacks TRRS. Too bad it can only send the master outs from USB.
As for the multi audio device management. I’m in the dev program so let me check if they added that on iOS/iPadOS 15 and post back here if they did ;) who knows. I doubt though.
Nice little Agonizer update plug and teaser!
Thanks haq
Thank you for this
My pleasure! Just also make sure to check the pinned comment on how to put the MC-101 into “Generic Mode”. 👍🏼
This is amazing! How do you time stretch the sample to match the song?
I am starting to like my 101 more and more but it has taken a while to feel good about it and I am not 100% convinced yet but it was my first dawless device so I have a connection with it in a weird way 😃😃✨✨🎶
Selam Aleykum friends. Not sure if I missed it so I share to be safe:
If you only have this small lightning to usb adapter (not the camera connection kit) and get the “device needs to much power” error when connecting to the iPad, I have found a simple solution, no powered usb adapter needed:
👉 Update your MC 101 to at least version 1.60
👉 Put batteries in your MC 101
👉 Hold the mc101 Value knob when turning it on. It switches to battery power and doesnt try to draw power via USB
Found it written in the “Update Manual” for the MC 101 :) Hope it helps!
Thanks for the video! I want to use this the other way around - apply iPad FX on MC audio. Could you please tell me how many audio channels iOS/AUM sees when connecting the MC101? Just 2 (stereo out) or 2x4 (stereo out per track)?
I wish they implemented more informative screen for mc101. You know, more similar to mc707, but smaller. Mc101 is nice beast, portable, ipad friendly, sounds great. I know one dude who sold mc101, but he wants to buy it again. I use what i have - digitakt with ipad is also great combo, the principle is almost the same.
See OP-1 now class compliant with iPads good stuff tempted to get a 101
I’ve been debating between an Mpc one and the MC 101 for about a month.
This looks great however still doesn’t make me make my decision lol
Thanks for the video, a lot of helpful information as always.
To keep it simple and portable MC-101, for having lots of options (especially more sample shaping and sound mangling) MPC One. MPC One comes closer to a dawless daw.
For the price used an mpc one is incredible value for money , even new it’s a bargain , loads of synth engines ,touch screen , etc, this device is for portable music making , I will be buying one when they go down to about 250 uk , I Have the MPC one and it’s my entire studio and daw in a box , I sold loads of my old synths because I simply have no need for them given that the MPC has lots built in , and new ones are coming with updates all the time , the last update gave us 4 new synths ,if you have the money get the MPC one , you will probably never buy any other machines after buying that one
Hi Jakob, if i am not wrong, we don’t need power with lightning as there is a way to force start the mc-101 on battery: you press VALUE knob while starting the machine. It should be ok then with any iOS devices without additional power supply 🙂
This makes me wanna get a versalab mv1 w my iPad
Hi Jakob, Thank you very much for this video. Can I also sync clock over USB with the iPad? My ipad doesnt seems to see it I have the new m1 one with USB-C but no luck so far, I couldn"t even get the stea mix out yet. I"m on 1.7,2 formware but I got my MC 101 second hand I"m wondering if it"s broken that way. Thank you very much, Raf
Thanks so much for the video. I have bought the adaptor to connect the iphone to the mc 101 but the phone does not dettect it. Is there any change I have to do on the phone to get it? thanks
Hey Jake,
Can I use the same set up for my NI Maschine hardware?
Edit: To use the Maschine hardwre to control an ipad.
This is a great idea! It’ll have to try this. Can it also be used to send midi from the MC-101 to use synths on the iPhone?
Yes.
Wow nice!
Can you run audio via usb from 101 to Aum? Stereo or multi track
Hey Jakob,
Great video with the MC-101.
Theres so many possibilities with it and as a followup, I bought the MC-707 and Subscribed to RolandCloud.
Did you know about the VST, AU Zenology Pro for MAC or PC?
The nobs on the MC-101, you can assign each Partial in Zenology to them and have realtime control over your Tones.
There is a plugin on iPad called the ZC-1 Synth but its only used inside of Zenbeats Ultimate Unlock that comes with RolandCloud.
Zenbeats is Universal and Jakob, you would have loved the Android platform so much more as Zenbeats (Cubasis 3 now works on Android too) it works there too.
Im sure you may have heard about all this in General so I wont go on (ADHD, OCD issues).
Unfortunately I haven't been able to download your presets for MixBox?
The IK MultiMedia download resources haven't got your presets available either?
Please can you talk to them to update the Resources and give us those Awesome Presets?
I will look forward to hearing from you and would like to explain my needing them for MultiTracking 16 Audio Inputs directly into iPad Pro (2018) which has been a project in AUM that's finally now running smoothly!
Great video!! I have a 2020 ipad pro with usb-c and a korg kaossilator pro+. I badly want to to connect them together and record loops into loopy pro or create loops in audioshare. I have a similar usb-c hub plugged into my ipad pro 2020 model that is keeping the ipad charged and I still have another usb-c slot and 3 regular usb 3.0 slots to use on the hub. So, do I just pug into the usb slot on my kaossilator pro+ and the other end into the hub and launch loopy pro or audioshare and create loops? I also just want to use fx apps on my kaossilator pro+, so just plug it into the hub, launch an fx app like WOW or elastic fx and go to town? I hope you still answer viewer questions because I have been searching for answers for a very long time on how to make this work! Thank you for any help!!
can I hook up another synth to the mc 101 and loop that synth?
In general you're absolutely correct, however I think I get 101 and zoom U-44 working at the same time
If you’re talking about MIDI then yes. Multiple MIDI devices can be connected at the same time, almost as many as you like or can power. However if you are referring to the Audio I/Os then that should not be possible. Can you confirm by checking that you able to select/switch between the audio inputs and audio outputs of both these units inside an app, when they’re both connected over USB at the same time. I suspect you would only have one set of audio I/O to choose from. The reason is because iOS does not support aggregate audio devices with multi I/O over USB. This is why iOS selects one device for the audio and it’s usually the last one plugged in when plugging multiple with the help of a USB hub. I’ve even shown this in a video. th-cam.com/video/avDMsyhyd6k/w-d-xo.html
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I am continually checking what Apple is up to regarding multi-aggregate devices on a regular basis. So far I have heard nothing new, but I might have missed it and if you have new info then I’d love to hear it. People would go bonkers if this was possible, me included.
As I got one on order
Genuine question - given the limitations of the MC-101, and the power of the iPad, what do you gain by using the MC-101 versus a few iPad apps and maybe a simple MIDI controller mappings?
Routing, latency, ability to trigger sequences or patch changes with only hardware latency of a series of hardwired O(1) lookup calls (wrt Big O Notation) vs. software abstraction layers slowing things down with parsers or memory issues or random processes. Just being able to have things set up to have this thing hiding out on the corner of your pedal board vs. setting up a computer near big electromagnets. 5-pin midi is the way.
Technically the 101 can chop samples... But you don't want to do that unless you absolutely have to. You can set a startingpoint and endpoint for a sample and do that for each of the 16 pads, but you have to know what arbitrary value you have to set the points to. You can figure it out with a calculator, but it's a real pain. If that's all you have on you on a long trip it could be worth doing. Gabe Miller explains it in a video IIRC.
Hi, can i do it backwards? like using the mc101 as a synth and record into something like koala or other thing inside aum?
Screw it… I was gonna hold off and get an mpc live but I’m start with this and possibly get an mpc one later down the line. But this seems perfect for me being that iPad is my main device for music.
I wonder why looper won't record PC audio for me. I'm on firmware 1.72 and it behaves like it's recording (blinking red) and I can hear the sound coming through the headphones while recording but the looper clip on the track ends up being empty.
I thought I’ve decided on the mpc live two… came back to this video and reminded myself how easy updating, file storage and stuff like that is in combo with the iPad… hmm the 707 can do this as well? Now I’m debating again, between a mpc live two and a Roland mc 707… hmmm. What do do.
Mpc one if you have the money , it’s way more powerful and useful
Isnt the mc101 a class compliant soundcard for the ipad?
the best ios sample chopper for the mc 101 would be the koala sampler because you can chop up a sound in it's 16 pads way faster and import them all to audio share!!!
Thanks Haq! Question! I have an older Ipad Pro with lightning port, i was unable to connect MC101 to ipad with original USB connector :( the printer lead works for printing, but i was only able to update the SDcard via a macbook pro and did the update that way, following along carefully theres still no way to hear the audio in PC mode :( AUMs pkaying a synth fine but no sound :( ordering new leads but it works fine on the printer.
Ok my problem was zero charging lightning bolt icon showing on the ipad even tho its 100% charged, it took a few plug socket resets as well , some new leads needed i think, but managed to port the audio from AUM to MC101 looper track 4. just practicing for now, is it worth 'undoing' mistakes (v1.81) or just record over your last take whilst recording?
How do you record into daw fam
Nice!
I use these cheaper audio interfaces with my iPad Air 4 (Usb C) : M-Audio M-Track Solo and the Behringer U-Control
Jakob try to connect the mc101 and other audio interface and you will get a surprise… it’s possible to connect 2 audio interfaces to iDevices but only when one of them is just inputs or outputs (or a combo of one of each too) BUT one of them will get override. Let me explain it… I have a novation audioHub 2x4 and mc1000 which just has 0x8 (input outputs) so when I plug the last into the first I get 2x8. Inputs on my novation, outputs on the zomo (mc1000). It was discussed long ago at audiob.us forums… Big hug. Dubbylabby
Thanks for that tip. That’s super interesting. I’d love to do a cover on this. Do you have a link to the Audiobus forum post? I’d also love to know if you have any tips on more input only, output only interfaces that might work? I’ll be diving in deeply into this.
So, do I need to ask? Android? Ya ya?
Don't forget you need to set the audio driver to generic or you won't get any audio from the mc101.
Thanks you! I’ve added info on this to the pinned comment! 👊🏼
2024 you can connect multiple audio devices to iPad pro and route audio and midi thru a usb hub.
Why don't you just power the MC 101 with 4 AA batteries?
Why not just load up the samples into the SD card and import them into MC101 instead all of this complex adapters, hubs, and cables?
All depends on your workflow. Having direct connection allows for direct sampling/recording. Some people want that workflow, while others prefer to just make samples in one place and then simply moving them over to another place. In that latter case then yeah, SD card import is fine. In the end it’s all about personal preference when it comes to workflow.
i have an MC707 i can connect both my ipad and iphone at same time via iConnectAudio4+ i would rep for their company if they let me, LoL
Bruh the groovebox is like 420 quid here :(
I paid more in Euro's and IMO it's a steal. Well it's not super cheap or anything, but it's much more powerful than a Circuit Tracks for instance that almost costs the same. I'm not sure if it's much more powerful than an Electribe, but it actually sounds like something that was designed in the last ten years. (Electribe has a sound that you might like, but it's not exactly modern sounding.)
This blokes very talented but f f sake.
Is this an ad for Roland? Why copy sounds to the Roland hardware when you can just play them on the iPad using tons of other other iOS apps? Am I missing something (probably)....
No, it’s not an add for Roland. It’s a tutorial on how to connect the amC-101 to an iDevice in order to expand your MC-101 sound set with sampled stuff.
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To answer the 2nd question. Why drive when you can take the bus. prefference 👊🏼😊
I at least produce different things and think differently about what I make when I’m using different tools. Sometimes I live just using touch. Other times I just want the tactile response of physical controls.
@@JakobHaq OK. Thanks for the reply.
@@JakobHaq Because the car takes me places where the bus route doesn't go :-)
Haha! Yes! See we all have preferences. That’s how I feel about every piece of gear I have including the iPad. Once I got my iPad and once I found apps like Borderlands Granular, SAMPLR, TC-11, Gestrument and Yellofier, something happened and I was making different music. It was an eye opener. I had been dreaming of a touch device that could become anything (synth, drummachine, sampler etc). Here I had it and it changed me. And to day the platform has grown into a true powerhouse and I’ve been producing all of my stuff on here like videos, music and graphical material.
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But, I still can’t get away from how good it feels to use hardware with dedicated controllers. Stuff I don’t have to setup with MIDI controllers in order to get stuff going. It’s a very different workflow setting up a dawless jam session compared to an iPad Jam session. That’s how I got into music from the start with hardware, then introducing early computers.
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Both worlds have something different to offer me. It’s nice to have a car. But I love riding busses and trains to. 😉💜
Honestly I don’t see any reason how owning one of these would improve anyone’s workflow over simply using the iPAD+a simple midi controller like the Launchpad Mini/akai mpk mk3, etc… 😁
Does seem redundant, however hardware gives you different results and a more tactile connection to your music.
Ingenuity is bred in limitations.. IOS options will make your head spin.
Even for hardware I found the MC101 too frustrating to work with. I do use an ipad but keep it limited too a few select apps like Koala, Air, etc.
@@I.O.M. dang , interesting. Glad I grabbed the Elektrons over the Mc101 then. Was about to pull the trigger last weekend .. but something kept telling me “bro you haven’t liked a Roland product since the MC505”
@@Thedrumsthebass add a midi controller and constrain yourself within some grooveboxes and you’re set! :)
@@Thedrumsthebass Agree. The Roland workflow and my brain just don't get along.
Roland should of just added 1/4 inputs for sampling into the mc-101. Jesus christ. Have to do a 10 steps just to sample into this thing. Or just make another record source option besides PC in a firmware update to be able to sample from any device over usb. My god Roland…
I’m even discouraged from trying out the Zen Packs from the Roland Club BS. I can’t figure out if you have to pay a membership fee or whether to buy the $.99 Packs. They are so afraid that someone is going to steal them that they make it a pain in the butt for the actual purchaser of the 101. To be honest I’m pretty nervous every time I try to update the machine.