yeah I already had figured out the fast NLK loop build's weakness before this video still glad you confirmed it also though link joker isn't meta in premium yet, dubnium's retire lock and mulepton's hand lock while would allow me to lock 3 rearguard circles making NLK impossible and slowly dragging it into late game with Flagolet messiah's consistent omega lock or just plain defeat flare of lacus carina the damn assassins
Great Overlord Well I was referring to Chaos link joker deck but basically adding flageolet messiah in te G zone for the omega lock And also chaos isn’t viable in premium because of mainly Ange and Gyze
You'r builds for Luard and NLK are very popular on CFA, i faced them many times and gotta admit i didn't consider passing turn is the way to shut it down. Also very good video as always, really appreciate it. I wish i could cf you sometime on CFA :)
Man I love your content! I recently started Vanguard and I struggle with a couple of things which I can’t find any videos for and I’d be awesome if you could make one for each: 1) difference between Standard and Premium. That’s for everything - which sets belong to standard? How to structure premium decks and how standard? How to play premium with all the G Strdes and G Guards? How gameplay is different and how Grade 4s and the extra mechanics enrich the game?? A proper in depth guide of premium vs standard basically. P.s I’m aware that you have that video but basically for an amateur that’s a lot of theory. I want to see a game of each to understand with detailed narration and the differences pointed out in top decks competing in each format. 2) How to keep up to date with the game. I’m looking at bushi site for latest releases but I want to find a detailed card list gallery with images like Yugioh has and Dragon Ball with Shenronslair. Vanguard is a great game really and it’s sad that it doesn’t have the attention it deserves yet.
Hi there :) 1) That could be a 12 hour video by itself. I think it'd be best to just look up some standard and premium games on YT and try to learn step by step. Perhaps look at DifferentFight's channel for his commentary videos. They tend to be clear and easy to understand. Overall, standard has a higher luck factor and is easier to get into. Premium has way more lines of play but is a bit more complex to get started with. 2) TH-cam is probably your best bet. Bushi doesn't have a really big content strategy when it comes to these things. The cardfight wikia does list all the cards though :)
After I tried a lot of NLK built, I don't like to use Creeper in a rush deck cuz you'll lose 2 cards in deck for 1 increasing soul. Killing dollmaster is better (if you didn't face against Kagerou)
After watching this I don't think I've seen a build that utilizes yellow bolt. Very interesting tech cuz over here it's all eastern builds that you see on sites and what seem to inspire western builds. But yes. Answers are to rush or freeze ray. I like to play gears because premium gears may be my number one deck that will hopefully make it a tier 0 clan again
lol and I thought you figured out my secret counter deck... btw.. if you see the opponent is not swinging at you and is not riding just fill the field with units and swing more.. he will lose many cards or go to 4 dmg.. even if next he attaks your front rear its already late cause you will hit another grade over him..
Did you see any Kagero decks while you were in France? I’m considering putting some thought into a Kagero deck, but I don’t know how competitive the idea is or a good combination to solve the deck.
ZhouTai08 Kagero isn’t as competitive as luard NLK anger and all the Zoa and Gyze decks out there In premium Kagero has only two options Either go the Dragonic overlord route Or the original nouvelle vague and original cruel dragon combo deck route
Robins GRYER That’s what I was thinking. I figured that Dragonic Overlord would be the more ideal route to take. I didn’t know if the Blaze mechanic would be worth looking at, since it doesn’t have V support.
This vid is kinda helpful but generally i win against this deck before its win condition by using pale moon harri or luquier and rushing them early or Fast stride harri kill which is real easy but i sometime dont get to rush with luquier that well soo theres my prob. ut this did help
She only works by placing her on the field 1 turn prior, which means she's a totally dead card when you draw her prior. (And remember Blaster Dark can snipe her and Ange can bounce her back) She also disappears and you often need full field for half-loops. She's just a worse version of the wolf we got in AL4. Yellow Bolt does just as much when you get it at the same time as her but he stays on field. He does MORE than her when you get him 2 turns prior AND he does more than her when you get him the turn itself.
Solemn they released magatsu storm and it's broken it's amazing and it's the future of the V series meta guaranteed to smack imperial daughter off the thrown
ough i kinda got it right then XD been testing agianst the fast build would just ride nemain and swing with 5k and not give counter blast and mill them out.
So basically at the end of the day, RNG will do what it wants and that is really all there is to this. Starving them counter blasts doesn't really matter if the deck I'm playing isn't a tier 1 deck as well. If I'm sitting here playing a tier 3 deck, my best bet is still going to be out rushing them and praying for that lucky crit. Nothing beyond casual play even happens in my area so I suppose it doesn't matter either way.
Kind of, I kind of looked at this video at times like that. Premium is just a big mess cause some cards just get along to well and it needs restriction. I have given up ans when my friend wants to play even standard I just use one of his decks rather than build one. My last match was with them and I used royals and I was so close to beating ott but then my drive checks kind of went south.
Lolwut...? Yes, tier 3 decks won't beat NLK without insane luck. Just like VR-less decks in Standard won't beat Neo Nectar without insane luck. What is your point exactly?
@@SolemnVanguard No disrespect to you intended, but my point is that strategy only carries so far in a game that is 90% RNG based. Mad props to you for doing so well in your recent events, i am honestly jealous, but yeah, RNG does what it wants. No strategy assumes double crit or heal on 6th damage check, yet it happens all too often overall. Perhaps I'm just bitter that Tachi still suck, and will always suck, but that is just how I've seen things in my limited experience; RNG trumps strategy most of the time.
Everyday Vanguard I mean they could have another assassin and if they thin their deck they could draw assassin and put in soul and even if those doesn’t happen they normally have an extra rear guard so they could still do the loop one then there is a chance that I mention above and heteround also have a chance to make your opponent call a card that help soul charge assassin
I don't think it was a bad choice, considering scharhrot's soul filtering upon striding, but it usually take two stride for me to get the setup ready. Unless your built can withstand rushes, you might not be able to beat other decks.
REDV I’m actually trying to think of a vanguatuber that is mainly focused on standard And though only different fight comes to mind his commentaries are mostly for premium fights since they’re more complex
It's not that I don't do standard... It's that there's almost no lines of play/counterplay so making a "how to beat" is very close to pointless imo. It's mostly basic game sense right now.
I mean.. NLK is topping less in JP already. Considering how every booster somehow creates new T1 standard AND premium decks, I'm actually REALLY sure Bushi designs sets with both formats in mind.
yeah I already had figured out the fast NLK loop build's weakness before this video
still glad you confirmed it
also though link joker isn't meta in premium yet, dubnium's retire lock and mulepton's hand lock while would allow me to lock 3 rearguard circles making NLK impossible and slowly dragging it into late game with Flagolet messiah's consistent omega lock
or just plain defeat flare of lacus carina the damn assassins
It's a whether you can pull it of
Link joker would be meta, if there is no Ange G3.
Card Sodiumcyanide
Oh Right crap !
Welp there go my dreams of a competitive messiah premium deck
@@robinsgryer6237 Why not just go with Chaos link joker
Great Overlord
Well I was referring to Chaos link joker deck but basically adding flageolet messiah in te G zone for the omega lock
And also chaos isn’t viable in premium because of mainly Ange and Gyze
You'r builds for Luard and NLK are very popular on CFA, i faced them many times and gotta admit i didn't consider passing turn is the way to shut it down. Also very good video as always, really appreciate it. I wish i could cf you sometime on CFA :)
Really? Who on CFA uses it? =P You seem scrubby lol
@@FlareSherbetNatsu Randoms use it a lot
Looked exactly like a chess strategy. So good.
Man I love your content! I recently started Vanguard and I struggle with a couple of things which I can’t find any videos for and I’d be awesome if you could make one for each:
1) difference between Standard and Premium. That’s for everything - which sets belong to standard? How to structure premium decks and how standard? How to play premium with all the G Strdes and G Guards? How gameplay is different and how Grade 4s and the extra mechanics enrich the game?? A proper in depth guide of premium vs standard basically.
P.s I’m aware that you have that video but basically for an amateur that’s a lot of theory. I want to see a game of each to understand with detailed narration and the differences pointed out in top decks competing in each format.
2) How to keep up to date with the game. I’m looking at bushi site for latest releases but I want to find a detailed card list gallery with images like Yugioh has and Dragon Ball with Shenronslair.
Vanguard is a great game really and it’s sad that it doesn’t have the attention it deserves yet.
Hi there :)
1) That could be a 12 hour video by itself. I think it'd be best to just look up some standard and premium games on YT and try to learn step by step. Perhaps look at DifferentFight's channel for his commentary videos. They tend to be clear and easy to understand.
Overall, standard has a higher luck factor and is easier to get into.
Premium has way more lines of play but is a bit more complex to get started with.
2) TH-cam is probably your best bet. Bushi doesn't have a really big content strategy when it comes to these things. The cardfight wikia does list all the cards though :)
@@SolemnVanguard Awesome stuff, thanks for that! Vanguard man... what a game really...
You can also use freeze ray dragon
Yup, but that's something only 1 clan has access to :p
Was one of my first thoughts as well. :)
Fast build can still beat it if they go first. Freezeray doesn't help at all if you never get to ride it.
how will it win if it doesn't get any counter blast early like is required to loop.
After I tried a lot of NLK built, I don't like to use Creeper in a rush deck cuz you'll lose 2 cards in deck for 1 increasing soul. Killing dollmaster is better (if you didn't face against Kagerou)
After watching this I don't think I've seen a build that utilizes yellow bolt. Very interesting tech cuz over here it's all eastern builds that you see on sites and what seem to inspire western builds. But yes. Answers are to rush or freeze ray. I like to play gears because premium gears may be my number one deck that will hopefully make it a tier 0 clan again
funny thing is that kagero would be a great match up and the deck would be much easier to check if it wasn't for gyze existing killing control decks.
Yes a premium yes god duckbill thank
i hope i’m not the only one who don’t run a NLK loop dark irregulars deck but only a non one because running NLK is risky for me
lol and I thought you figured out my secret counter deck...
btw.. if you see the opponent is not swinging at you and is not riding just fill the field with units and swing more.. he will lose many cards or go to 4 dmg.. even if next he attaks your front rear its already late cause you will hit another grade over him..
Then what happen if the first card in a damage you see is common in both builds, (like NLK or an enigmatic assasin)?
So Solemn have you seen the V-Td05 and V-Td06 reveals?
Did you see any Kagero decks while you were in France? I’m considering putting some thought into a Kagero deck, but I don’t know how competitive the idea is or a good combination to solve the deck.
ZhouTai08
Kagero isn’t as competitive as luard NLK anger and all the Zoa and Gyze decks out there
In premium Kagero has only two options
Either go the Dragonic overlord route
Or the original nouvelle vague and original cruel dragon combo deck route
Robins GRYER That’s what I was thinking. I figured that Dragonic Overlord would be the more ideal route to take. I didn’t know if the Blaze mechanic would be worth looking at, since it doesn’t have V support.
Can u make a new video about best decks in the current meta
spirit inviter is my favourite draw trigger in vanguard
Is the alfred blaster deck solved???
This vid is kinda helpful but generally i win against this deck before its win condition by using pale moon harri or luquier and rushing them early or Fast stride harri kill which is real easy but i sometime dont get to rush with luquier that well soo theres my prob. ut this did help
i dont know but dose dark iregullars have a self damage dealer that isn't bobo
Harpuia damages yourself at the cost of 1 CB. And since the fast build runs no CC, that actually doesn't solve anything.
Do u think in the future there will be scharhrot support
XD
poderia fazer um video sobre o deck de great nature premium?
so
Ripple rises from the grave just to kick in the loop otk meta in the face?
after 10 thousand years i'm free! Time to conquer Cray!"
By playing NLK loop
Solemn, what do you think about using Killing Dollmqster in the deck I run around 4 of her since it turbos the soul
She only works by placing her on the field 1 turn prior, which means she's a totally dead card when you draw her prior. (And remember Blaster Dark can snipe her and Ange can bounce her back)
She also disappears and you often need full field for half-loops.
She's just a worse version of the wolf we got in AL4. Yellow Bolt does just as much when you get it at the same time as her but he stays on field. He does MORE than her when you get him 2 turns prior AND he does more than her when you get him the turn itself.
@@SolemnVanguard I see
Wait I live in the US can I still enter??
I am waiting for the worlds vlog
Solemn they released magatsu storm and it's broken it's amazing and it's the future of the V series meta guaranteed to smack imperial daughter off the thrown
Samuel Stygian It's ok, not broken, and OTT isnt the best deck in standard anymore.
Then tell me what is
Neo Nectar/Angel Feather are basically the best decks. Then you've got Shadows, OTT and Mura to lesser extent.
Solemn Vanguard thank you
ough i kinda got it right then XD been testing agianst the fast build would just ride nemain and swing with 5k and not give counter blast and mill them out.
Guess Kagero Striken just became meta.
I think Link Joker can also stand a chance lol. What do you think?
If they get to g3, absolutely. So you keep NLK at 0 damage until you get to ride g3 and start locking.
Thanks for the tip.
can people In United States get gift marker
Your content is so cool i very like it
i think u need a g guard kagero
So basically at the end of the day, RNG will do what it wants and that is really all there is to this. Starving them counter blasts doesn't really matter if the deck I'm playing isn't a tier 1 deck as well. If I'm sitting here playing a tier 3 deck, my best bet is still going to be out rushing them and praying for that lucky crit.
Nothing beyond casual play even happens in my area so I suppose it doesn't matter either way.
Kind of, I kind of looked at this video at times like that.
Premium is just a big mess cause some cards just get along to well and it needs restriction.
I have given up ans when my friend wants to play even standard I just use one of his decks rather than build one.
My last match was with them and I used royals and I was so close to beating ott but then my drive checks kind of went south.
Lolwut...? Yes, tier 3 decks won't beat NLK without insane luck. Just like VR-less decks in Standard won't beat Neo Nectar without insane luck. What is your point exactly?
@@SolemnVanguard No disrespect to you intended, but my point is that strategy only carries so far in a game that is 90% RNG based. Mad props to you for doing so well in your recent events, i am honestly jealous, but yeah, RNG does what it wants. No strategy assumes double crit or heal on 6th damage check, yet it happens all too often overall.
Perhaps I'm just bitter that Tachi still suck, and will always suck, but that is just how I've seen things in my limited experience; RNG trumps strategy most of the time.
Always interesting
or gear chronicle g guard like heteroround
Everyday Vanguard I mean they could have another assassin and if they thin their deck they could draw assassin and put in soul and even if those doesn’t happen they normally have an extra rear guard so they could still do the loop one then there is a chance that I mention above and heteround also have a chance to make your opponent call a card that help soul charge assassin
Does being in england count as being in europe because brexit hasn't taken effect yet?
Yes, that counts :)
Cool, thanks!
dude, xD. EUROPE != EUROPEAN UNION
I actually use Scharhrot with NLK Lmao
Is that bad? I've been using Scharhrot since I started Vanguard, so I am more comfortable with it.
I don't think it was a bad choice, considering scharhrot's soul filtering upon striding, but it usually take two stride for me to get the setup ready. Unless your built can withstand rushes, you might not be able to beat other decks.
So basically
Royal Paladin > Slow build
That how I beat Deletor too 😂😂😂
Fruits basket elf!
NLK Lööps
Control the NLK players damage...
LOL! I posted this before sitting down and watching. :)
And it isn't that you don't swing. You simply avoid hitting (small VG numbers) so you will still increase hand size!
That's ideal but not every deck can swing under.
What about standard??????
REDV I’m actually trying to think of a vanguatuber that is mainly focused on standard
And though only different fight comes to mind his commentaries are mostly for premium fights since they’re more complex
It's not that I don't do standard... It's that there's almost no lines of play/counterplay so making a "how to beat" is very close to pointless imo.
It's mostly basic game sense right now.
Solemn Vanguard
Btw do you think Star-Vader or messiah coming back to premium with future v support could potentially kick NLK loop out of the meta
@@robinsgryer6237 based on the manga, Deletors get supported first along with brandt, then it is Messiah support.
I mean.. NLK is topping less in JP already. Considering how every booster somehow creates new T1 standard AND premium decks, I'm actually REALLY sure Bushi designs sets with both formats in mind.