Sup y'all, I usually post vlogs on my www.youtube.com/@PansDay channel, but since now I'm doing this tech startup and it's coding related, I thought I would try posting it on my main channel to see if you guys enjoy it. Let me know! More info, and to join waitlist (I'll be in India next month, and launching from there to 100 people!): trypear.ai My friend www.youtube.com/@nang88 and I are building an open source AI-powered code editor, namely PearAI. PearAI's goal is to reduce the time it takes for an individual to go from idea to creation. Coding itself is a crucial tool in product development, and we believe that with the advancement of AI, it may drastically change over the coming years. We aim to build the environment that will encompass these changes, both in the short-term and long-term. Current features include: - Codebase context: talk to your code - Built-in PearAI chat - Inline AI prompting and diff changes - AI debugging, including errors shown in terminal - And many more!
It's nice to see it on the main channel, since this will also let your audience know about pearai and your contributors will increase. Btw, is there any linux support on pearai?
Not to be a bummer, but did you guys do any market research at all? There’s literally so many alternatives that do exactly this and do a good job at it. Copilot alone does everything you already showed in the demo. I’m confused what is your edge?
Being in this industry I get so many offers to start something with friends but I'm just like, I'm already burnt out at work man. I can't imagine starting something and dealing with everything from A-Z. I respect the hussle though.
Thanks!! Yeah, I've been doing yt+job for awhile, now adding startup is getting overwhelming. But it's also exciting so I have the drive to keep going. Just gotta make it sustainable somehow (may mean quitting job 👀)
@@FryingPan May be difficult, but you could also consider hiring someone else to help remotely. You have at least 1 full-time founder so that is good enough for now.
English is my second language, so im sorry if sth is incorrect or so I found this channel ab 3 years ago. Was really interested in this kind of stuff, but lately found myself being more into math Pretty much didn't open this channel since then Wanted to say, that im proud that you have found your path in life Hopefully you will get more recognition Thank you for your work, this actually improved me at some period of life!
You guys are so inspiring. I'm watching this straight from Italy and your journey is hyping me as if it were an episode of an anime 😂. Wish you all the best 💪.
Ngl. Homie should not have quit his 300k job. This is basically a GPT wrapper / copilot copycat. It gives me “oh waze worker through crowdsourcing so ima do that” the ideas solid, but nothing he mentions is inherently unique. Nice extension. But not worth leaving a 300k job.
@@impyrobot That's not entirely true in the current market. There have been plenty of layoffs so the market is full of very talented individuals, so the competition is fierce. An example I can think of is of a data engineer with 4 years of experience working at Spotify couldn't get a job for more than 4 months despite applying full time. Also, the author of You Don't Know JS has been unemployed for more than half a year. Market really isn't in a good position for this move, especially considering the idea isn't anything too unique
@@HamzahAhmad-db5cy Whatever you only live once and it's not like he has a family that's dependent on him. He should have enough savings to live comfortably anyway. I think the idea is pretty poor personally that's the only problem. I don't see people switching from their preferred code editor for this. Copilot is pretty poor and where's the money in it trying to convince some VC? Being tied down to a job is overrated worked in tech for 5 years and I quit to start my own business I make more income than I used to and live very comfortably. Life's more than just going to work and grinding for corpos.
well around 5 years ago i remember watching your videos since you majored in computer science as me , today your video popped up and i'm currently working on ly start-up as well where we're making ai applications and systems so i guess the same path is taken by the majority...
i want a product that knows everything in my codebase not just the file currently open. i actually tried to do that before but it was pretty hard to parse functions/classes correctly vs arbitrarily chunking codes. hope you guys can crack it!
Why choose Open Source? It's one way to guarantee not making money. We are currently working on a compiler with AI integration using our proprietary model. I would never have thought of open sourcing that. Good luck to you.
Crazy how you are the guys with all this technical knowledge, but the idea/concept part is missing. Im the exact opposite, we should work together :) You guys are obviously brilliant. Keep at it anyways you never know how far this can go!
2nd semester of swe is about to end so idk much how to build some tangible stuff. I wished I did cuz this community thing (pans followers building somethin with pan)sounds fun.
Did you already quit your job as of today? I've been seriously contemplating the same move for quite a while now. I've started to see work as a form of modern-day slavery, and I wanted to take back 100% of my own time.
A geniune question: what I was thinking is that we as programmers love our code editors so much like I use vscode and I have alot of settings + extensions + custom snippets and much more, why are you opting to go for a code editor instead of a better plugin / extension like tool to integrate with existing code editors so that later on you guys can scale like to other editors as well like sublime text or may be vim 😅. I know like vscode is open source so you can always keep in sync just like codium team does but still why not any extension and why another editor? Thanks :)
Would love to know what else you have in VSCode integrated that would make it more difficult to transfer over aside from extensions! For example if we have a 1 click transfer extensions from VSCode over, would that be a sufficient hassle reducer? Or is there more?
this is so true! like everything is cool and i wish them the best, but the fact that it's a vscode fork just feels so weird... like wouldn't it be better to put all the focus on creating an amazing extension for vscode, nvim etc... (like supermaven) rather than fking around doing a whole ass editor?
Much as I love AI, it's the worst thing you could add to the start of your workflow lest it guide you so far off course from your original idea, you end up just giving up on it.
What are your thoughts on developing this as a VSCode plugin, instead of creating a new editor altogether? Things like code selection, and opening a side window to analyze/prompt around the code should be supported.
Can I ask, what is the point you are trying to make here? No harm on my side, I am going through the comments to get some people opinions. Wont it be a less successful business model if it was made into an extension since not all people will be able to have it as an extension (if they use IDE such as pycharm, zed etc etc.). Could you explain how this is worse than turning it into a extension whenever you have the time to of course? (Edited for grammar mistake)
Soft eng here who made extensions, the extension api is extremely limited and painful to work for ui. So is not a terrible idea to fork vscode and control everything. lol people like you think they’re smart and don’t even know how things work
@@nobytes2 Hey man, i was just asking since Im getting into Software Engineering because Im a Cybersecurity Engineer / Pentester... so Im trying to broaden my knowledge yk
I don’t understand what this offers over GitHub CoPilot. GitHub Workspaces is previewing end to end code generation for GitHub issues. This includes running and testing the code. Both of these services are currently really cheap. I don’t see how they are competing or making money.
You guys are doing a good job, I have tried both Continue and I have also tried your app, I would like to say you guys are doing a great job , but one feedback is apart from just being able to relate code within the active file say you index.html for example , can you guys work on, say it being able to identify related files like its css and in the case you facing an issue in your html and maybe the real issue is in some conflict in your css its able to identify it even though your active file where your doing your prompt is in your index.html, and also I have problem joining your discord and also I would love to contribute to the project , when will you guys allow contributions? Thank you guys and keep on
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@@ayushchaudhari5655 that was part of the secrecy. As soon as they touch a translator or a dictionary it will be only understood by the owner of the channel.
You're missing a large thing in your business though. SALES actual business acumen, It doesn't matter how great your product is if nobody knows what it is. AWS has all of the market share because they heavily invested in there sales teams. What was the problem and how does this solution solve it more efficiently then the competition. On top of wanting to do a startup when VC money is drying up and lending is harsh.
Also, this idea looks amazing. I already use chatGPT daily at my data platform engineering job. Command suggestion: lookup the "Terraform fmt" command and see if you can apply it to raw data files like JSON and stuff. I might just contribute with it myself!!
Hey love your work and you guys Vision!!!!, but what you guys are making isn't it similar to black box ai. I don't want to discourage you guys, I am a first year college student doing graduation in AI. So , sometimes when i use VS Code i sometimes do the same thing with Black Box and improve my code.
Same question. Copilot is good, but I know it can be better. Right now their job is perhaps equivalent to copilot's work? But what if they also move forward fast? Pear better get some INNOVATIVE ideas. Maybe integrating uxui design (image to code), and more more more. Also the business model.
I'm interested in how making an open source product like this how are you supposed to make money? Paywall upgrades or something? (this is genuine question not rage bait) or is that not the goal? Because with quitting your jobs I assume there is some way to make revenue on this right?
Ya fair question. So there are actually plently of successful open source startups, can see on YC's website there's a whole list. E.g redis, mattermost, gitlab. We can generate revenue by providing the convenience of you not having the host your own server! As well as extra features and direct customer support
@@chrisw9597 As well as extra features and direct customer support paid extra features paid priority support convenience of you not having to host your own server you pay for server + use free pearAI or pay pearAI for server with free pearAI software
Well this will fail if you build on vscode thats for sure and really this just feels like an forced idea you aren't even intrested in youre doing it just for money riding the ai wave
Sup y'all, I usually post vlogs on my www.youtube.com/@PansDay channel, but since now I'm doing this tech startup and it's coding related, I thought I would try posting it on my main channel to see if you guys enjoy it. Let me know!
More info, and to join waitlist (I'll be in India next month, and launching from there to 100 people!): trypear.ai
My friend www.youtube.com/@nang88 and I are building an open source AI-powered code editor, namely PearAI.
PearAI's goal is to reduce the time it takes for an individual to go from idea to creation. Coding itself is a crucial tool in product development, and we believe that with the advancement of AI, it may drastically change over the coming years. We aim to build the environment that will encompass these changes, both in the short-term and long-term.
Current features include:
- Codebase context: talk to your code
- Built-in PearAI chat
- Inline AI prompting and diff changes
- AI debugging, including errors shown in terminal
- And many more!
If you need more workers WHO can write in python, js, html, CSS for free just reply
It's nice to see it on the main channel, since this will also let your audience know about pearai and your contributors will increase. Btw, is there any linux support on pearai?
@@hrshlgunjal-1627 TY LINUX SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TOO ONCE LAUNCH. Rn we mostly tested with mac and windows
@@kiedro3835 Yessir Join the PearAI Discord!! We ping the roles (frontend, ui/ux, backend, etc) for help!
@@FryingPan Ok, thanks for that 👍
If this doesn't work im cooked
We're on our knees rn 🙏
@@FryingPan Woah 😳Why u being on your knees?
OF backup
Your cooked !!
naang?? the guy with the ai book gen app startup thingy?!!, BIG W>>>>
Not to be a bummer, but did you guys do any market research at all? There’s literally so many alternatives that do exactly this and do a good job at it. Copilot alone does everything you already showed in the demo. I’m confused what is your edge?
Seems like pan wants to emphasize on the UI
My edge is that I can edge a very long time
@@FryingPan😂 The chosen one 1️⃣
@@FryingPan yeah bro is cooked
@@FryingPanthey're all cooked.
but they get a new job anyday
bro the editing on this video is truly fantastic, watching this vid was so nice lol. Good luck you guys!
pear ai such a unique name, im sure steve jobs would never have thought of it
Dude seeing Jason in your videos is so cool! I've been following him for years aswell and it's so cool seeing you guys work together
Hell yeah Jason is cool
Being in this industry I get so many offers to start something with friends but I'm just like, I'm already burnt out at work man. I can't imagine starting something and dealing with everything from A-Z. I respect the hussle though.
Thanks!! Yeah, I've been doing yt+job for awhile, now adding startup is getting overwhelming. But it's also exciting so I have the drive to keep going. Just gotta make it sustainable somehow (may mean quitting job 👀)
same. How can they manage 2 jobs
@@FryingPan job reveal pls 😂. Which company have you been working for since you moved to NYC ?
@@FryingPan May be difficult, but you could also consider hiring someone else to help remotely. You have at least 1 full-time founder so that is good enough for now.
The passion project wipes away the burn out
YAWAIS = Yet Another Wrapper AI Startup
Respect the hustle bros. Praying it works out for yall.
this is awesome, great job guys 🔥🔥 cant wait for the netflix series to drop
this actually looks really good. will definitely be keeping up with this project!
Ty!!!
This is the time to do it. I failed a startup at 24... learnt heaps and now doing better than I would have if I didn't try it out.
Yeah, it's the best thing about being young. I hope they succeed, but I imagine even failing wouldn't be failing.
What is heaps ?
@@ngocdangduc3772 heaps as in "heap (noun)" meaning a great deal (a lot), in this context.
@@ngocdangduc3772a lot, or a large amount, for example: a heap of mud
this is the best code editor i’ve ever seen 🍐
fire collab 🔥
🍐
English is my second language, so im sorry if sth is incorrect or so
I found this channel ab 3 years ago. Was really interested in this kind of stuff, but lately found myself being more into math
Pretty much didn't open this channel since then
Wanted to say, that im proud that you have found your path in life
Hopefully you will get more recognition
Thank you for your work, this actually improved me at some period of life!
I wish yall the best. It's a steep hill to climb. You guys can do it!💪💪
True. Thank u. It's a fun adventure regardless :)
thats lowk crazy gl w it wishing successsss ✨
Ty ❤
absolute mad lads... gl
Ty ❤
Good luck to you guys! You got this!!
Your product concept is so good. Good luck with it!
You guys are so inspiring. I'm watching this straight from Italy and your journey is hyping me as if it were an episode of an anime 😂. Wish you all the best 💪.
Thanks!!
cursor is so good, what would make you different
Ngl. Homie should not have quit his 300k job. This is basically a GPT wrapper / copilot copycat. It gives me “oh waze worker through crowdsourcing so ima do that” the ideas solid, but nothing he mentions is inherently unique.
Nice extension. But not worth leaving a 300k job.
If you're good enough to get a 300k job you're good enough to get it another one with the added bonus of doing a start up on the CV.
@@impyrobot That's not entirely true in the current market. There have been plenty of layoffs so the market is full of very talented individuals, so the competition is fierce.
An example I can think of is of a data engineer with 4 years of experience working at Spotify couldn't get a job for more than 4 months despite applying full time.
Also, the author of You Don't Know JS has been unemployed for more than half a year. Market really isn't in a good position for this move, especially considering the idea isn't anything too unique
@@HamzahAhmad-db5cy Whatever you only live once and it's not like he has a family that's dependent on him. He should have enough savings to live comfortably anyway.
I think the idea is pretty poor personally that's the only problem. I don't see people switching from their preferred code editor for this. Copilot is pretty poor and where's the money in it trying to convince some VC?
Being tied down to a job is overrated worked in tech for 5 years and I quit to start my own business I make more income than I used to and live very comfortably. Life's more than just going to work and grinding for corpos.
Just curious, you guys are charging monthly subscriptions for this open-source code editor but how much are you paying the contributors/maintainers??
isn't this the point, anybody can willingly contribute for fun, no need to have a crazy resume or even to know the person but yeah you don't get paid
I guess you can use to add a line and put in your cv "contributed to latest ai code editor tool"
well around 5 years ago i remember watching your videos since you majored in computer science as me , today your video popped up and i'm currently working on ly start-up as well where we're making ai applications and systems so i guess the same path is taken by the majority...
Dang this is sick, 300,000k in high frequency trading is insane - if only there was a site to study for that 😆
LOLL comment got me - goodluck quantquestionsio
ahhhh you think you guys are slick with the marketing
😹😹@@FAArchives
i want a product that knows everything in my codebase not just the file currently open. i actually tried to do that before but it was pretty hard to parse functions/classes correctly vs arbitrarily chunking codes. hope you guys can crack it!
ahhh this is actually cool
We got that:)
How’s this project going? Cursor just raised 60M, how do y’all compare?
Here's something that a lot of people want that Atom (text editor feel) I see that look and I'm in.
Why choose Open Source? It's one way to guarantee not making money. We are currently working on a compiler with AI integration using our proprietary model. I would never have thought of open sourcing that. Good luck to you.
Crazy how you are the guys with all this technical knowledge, but the idea/concept part is missing. Im the exact opposite, we should work together :) You guys are obviously brilliant. Keep at it anyways you never know how far this can go!
2nd semester of swe is about to end so idk much how to build some tangible stuff. I wished I did cuz this community thing (pans followers building somethin with pan)sounds fun.
Yeah you should share this more, not random vlogs, but the coding related vlogs.
rlly tho
Glad y'all like it ❤
Did you already quit your job as of today? I've been seriously contemplating the same move for quite a while now. I've started to see work as a form of modern-day slavery, and I wanted to take back 100% of my own time.
A geniune question: what I was thinking is that we as programmers love our code editors so much like I use vscode and I have alot of settings + extensions + custom snippets and much more, why are you opting to go for a code editor instead of a better plugin / extension like tool to integrate with existing code editors so that later on you guys can scale like to other editors as well like sublime text or may be vim 😅. I know like vscode is open source so you can always keep in sync just like codium team does but still why not any extension and why another editor? Thanks :)
Would love to know what else you have in VSCode integrated that would make it more difficult to transfer over aside from extensions! For example if we have a 1 click transfer extensions from VSCode over, would that be a sufficient hassle reducer? Or is there more?
this is so true! like everything is cool and i wish them the best, but the fact that it's a vscode fork just feels so weird... like wouldn't it be better to put all the focus on creating an amazing extension for vscode, nvim etc... (like supermaven) rather than fking around doing a whole ass editor?
Much as I love AI, it's the worst thing you could add to the start of your workflow lest it guide you so far off course from your original idea, you end up just giving up on it.
very smart move to launch in india
damn neat code editor :D
you can't imagine how much inspiration I get from your videos ❤❤❤
Lmao, i love this content. Keep it up and maybe i'll help you guys out on CI/CD
Really like the video, did you edit it yourself?
What are your thoughts on developing this as a VSCode plugin, instead of creating a new editor altogether? Things like code selection, and opening a side window to analyze/prompt around the code should be supported.
Vscode extensions don't make enough money and dethroning vscode will be tough since it has so many extensions.
Vscode api is extremely limited which is why I’m sure they opted for forking the editor.
One word for your multi system collab....Docker
Forking VSCode is a terrible idea, the performance of this editor is horrible, what's even the point? You might as well just make a VSCode extension
Can I ask, what is the point you are trying to make here? No harm on my side, I am going through the comments to get some people opinions. Wont it be a less successful business model if it was made into an extension since not all people will be able to have it as an extension (if they use IDE such as pycharm, zed etc etc.). Could you explain how this is worse than turning it into a extension whenever you have the time to of course?
(Edited for grammar mistake)
@@kayyul I don't see them dethroning vscode just because it's has soo many extensions including copilot and the like
Soft eng here who made extensions, the extension api is extremely limited and painful to work for ui. So is not a terrible idea to fork vscode and control everything. lol people like you think they’re smart and don’t even know how things work
@@nobytes2 Hey man, i was just asking since Im getting into Software Engineering because Im a Cybersecurity Engineer / Pentester... so Im trying to broaden my knowledge yk
@@kayyul wasn’t talking to you bro I was responding to OP
Yeooo u were right by my work sir pearl street, I work in that Big verizon building down the block
would be cool if the editor also supported agents like autogen
Nice Orient Bambino on your wrist!
y’all ain’t cooked, y’all are cooking
Question, why can't this just be a vscode extension?
I don’t understand what this offers over GitHub CoPilot. GitHub Workspaces is previewing end to end code generation for GitHub issues. This includes running and testing the code. Both of these services are currently really cheap. I don’t see how they are competing or making money.
Extension api is extremely limited
8:10 can you add multiple snippets from multiple different code files first, then write the instruction?
Yes!
Pan I beg bro tell me the music titles from the videos it is FIRE!!!
did you find the name of the song at the beggining maybe
We’re gonna need to fact check that experience 😂
16 years of experience Ender 😂
Coding from the womb
@@FryingPan real and true and factual 🤓
I find the vibrating filter for all the documents and text or slideshows randomly throughout to be very jarring
You guys are doing a good job, I have tried both Continue and I have also tried your app, I would like to say you guys are doing a great job , but one feedback is apart from just being able to relate code within the active file say you index.html for example , can you guys work on, say it being able to identify related files like its css and in the case you facing an issue in your html and maybe the real issue is in some conflict in your css its able to identify it even though your active file where your doing your prompt is in your index.html, and also I have problem joining your discord and also I would love to contribute to the project , when will you guys allow contributions? Thank you guys and keep on
Is this only for python or does it ut work for other lang too 👀👀👀
Cursor is your competition
bro i thought ur alexandr wang from the thumbnail HAHA
i am totally new to coding. which language do you use to build pear ai. looking forward to contribute
will it support openrouter API keys so we can switch between different models?
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That is only External Factor DOFA (A= AMENAZAS)…
Dude, speak English
@@ayushchaudhari5655 that was part of the secrecy. As soon as they touch a translator or a dictionary it will be only understood by the owner of the channel.
Ohh yeah new vid🎉
Nang kinda reminds me of Yi Long Ma
You're missing a large thing in your business though. SALES actual business acumen, It doesn't matter how great your product is if nobody knows what it is. AWS has all of the market share because they heavily invested in there sales teams. What was the problem and how does this solution solve it more efficiently then the competition. On top of wanting to do a startup when VC money is drying up and lending is harsh.
Why use your editor instead of something like Vscode or Vim? (I use vim btw)
its a vscode fork, so it essentially has the same layout / config and everything, but it will have additional AI features built in
Drinking coffee by 11pm lol am drinking my 2nd energy drink 4am
what's the difference between this and github copilot plugin?
0:56 - "reduce friction" reminds me of "frictionless" LMAO
WE WILL NEVER LET CODY LIVE IT DOWN!
How will you monetize an open-source project???
Have you heard of cursor a ai based code editor backed by openai
THIS IS THE BEST AI POWERED CODE EDITOR EVER 😍😍😍 CANT WAIT TO CODE MY PERFECT AI BF !!!
Banger
Now we know that we follow you for tech content, not the golf content.. :c
Looks like cursor ai code editior
Saw you on mizkif's stream! I thought that mullet looked familiar 😂
Also, this idea looks amazing. I already use chatGPT daily at my data platform engineering job.
Command suggestion: lookup the "Terraform fmt" command and see if you can apply it to raw data files like JSON and stuff. I might just contribute with it myself!!
LOLL LFG
@@FryingPan LFG?
Devin is already there doing same thing
what language is it written in?
Hey love your work and you guys Vision!!!!, but what you guys are making isn't it similar to black box ai. I don't want to discourage you guys, I am a first year college student doing graduation in AI. So , sometimes when i use VS Code i sometimes do the same thing with Black Box and improve my code.
so its Grammarly for coding?
Massive!!
Looking forward to this 🚀🚀🚀
So basically, Cursor IDE?
But shittyer...
But not as good.
I am from India 🇮🇳 how to get software engineering remote roles or roles that pay 150k how to upskill if anyone can help I would be greatful 🙏
If it's not remotely close to what Cursor IDE can do, it's not at parody. Stop kidding yourselves.
Literally "don't quit your day job"....
Did this guy actuality call that a basement? 😅 4:40
sick
Umm how is this better than copilot….?
Same question. Copilot is good, but I know it can be better. Right now their job is perhaps equivalent to copilot's work? But what if they also move forward fast? Pear better get some INNOVATIVE ideas. Maybe integrating uxui design (image to code), and more more more. Also the business model.
Can i get an internship in ur company
pan, if u r right-handed u might want to use a right-handed club when golfing
if u r left-handed you can kindly ignore this comment
lets go
I'm interested in how making an open source product like this how are you supposed to make money? Paywall upgrades or something? (this is genuine question not rage bait) or is that not the goal? Because with quitting your jobs I assume there is some way to make revenue on this right?
Ya fair question. So there are actually plently of successful open source startups, can see on YC's website there's a whole list. E.g redis, mattermost, gitlab.
We can generate revenue by providing the convenience of you not having the host your own server! As well as extra features and direct customer support
“We can generate revenue by providing the convenience of you not having to host your own server”
That told us nothing…. How will you generate revenue?
@@chrisw9597I can't think of an IDE that's popular whose monetization model isn't sell licenses...
@@chrisw9597 As well as extra features and direct customer support
paid extra features
paid priority support
convenience of you not having to host your own server
you pay for server + use free pearAI
or
pay pearAI for server with free pearAI software
Can I be your AI/ML Engineer
Top demaais
Well this will fail if you build on vscode thats for sure and really this just feels like an forced idea you aren't even intrested in youre doing it just for money riding the ai wave
Lets gooo
rip nang
How old is he?
:)
🔥🔥
broooo I might need to hop on dis project 😮
Yo welcome
W friend
I mean... I don't know.
Cursor IDE clone!