Remember Yearbooks? I remember a sister telling me that I shouldn't go get one because they were expensive to make and I hadn't donated enough. She was constantly watching people and the donation box. Disgusting...
@@greyberet1, There was a time when you didn't have to pay for literature at the literature counter; that was before the Greedy Eight took over. It is my understanding that now you not only are made to pay for it, if you place it in field service you are expected to put whatever was "contributed" in the KH contribution box! What a racket!
@@outtadarkness1970 I’m a raised-in exjw from Montreal, canada and I don’t remember a time when we didn’t have to pay for any literature! Maybe it was different where you live…? And, yes, not only did we have to pay for the magazines that we “placed”, we were also supposed to drop the money that we received for them into the contribution box. Rutherfraud was right, it’s a racket 😂!
@@greyberet1, I have found the "rules" were not evenly applied from country to country or lacale to locale, for that matter. I am in the US and attended and was a publisher in three different states. Most of the congratulations had families that were reasonably affluent, maybe that played into it? I left in 2000 after spending 33+ years in. I. Have. Not. Missed. It!
Hi Wally and Zeezy, I don't think witnesses even pay attention to these talks, they just clap when everyone else does. If they really listened they could see through the bs.
Years ago back in the early 2000s after mom and dad passed away we sold the farm and the elders came looking for their you might as well say 1/10 of the sales from the farm and The Farmhouse and when we told them no my brother and I we lost our privileges at the hall yeah it's all about money
Over 20 years ago the elder weirdos lost the privilege of setting on my couch, after rebuking me for not giving" Brooklyn" it's due "worship"! They got 10 seconds to get passed my front door before I planted my boot in their ass!
When was the last time they helped a struggling family pay their rent, it was always done on a personal basis between two people and nothing from the actual organization. They cause fear and anxiety if they don't give their money to them. The witness people are normally very sweet people from my experience, and I feel bad they're being taken advantage of.
Wow, this is super upsetting! They are selling kingdom halls left and right... Why can't people see that the ORG is using them to build and make profit?
It’s not all that different from how Mormons all do a bunch of data entry for Jesus when they do their family history work and the church profits from the documents they digitize and transcribe.
According to what little research I did there are around 120,000 kingdom halls out there world wide. If I remember correctly there are roughly 8,000,000 members worldwide. This equates to around 66.6 “no pun intended” members per congregation. Each building has the capacity of around 120-150 although I have seen some with capacity of around 300. So it seems like the thought of a organization needing 14,000 more KH’s world wide to accompany a worldwide system that is operating at half capacity is complete BS. I mean it just takes a little common sense to see that this leadership is simply bogus.
And some KH's are shared. In the one I attended, 3 separate territories shared the one KH. On a Sunday, each territory took turns where the meetings were held at 10.00am, 1.00pm and 4.00pm and the weeknight meetings were held on a Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday night, each territory assigned to their specific weeknight.
Upon listening to Lett again I noticed he did say the money from the sale of their Brooklyn buildings was used to build the new Warwick HQ and to buy further properties in the future to facilitate their move out of New York. He didn't specify what further properties and what they'd be worth. I wonder how long after this video was made that the Ramapo media production/movie studio project was conceived.
Lest we not forget how they would always pass a resolution to send extra money to the society that we never really had! Several times I wanted to object, but that would have been suicide.
I remember the first KH we attended was owned by the members, and somehow they finigled sale to them and then sold it to a Spanish priest now it's a Spanish speaking church! It's extortion from the members of each KH, then to ask for a set donation from the members is a criminal act too!
Watchtower are money launderers. They extort money from people and give nothing back. Then sell buildings paid for by the rank and file to other religions. Surely this is supporting babylon the great. Watchtower are so corrupt the mafia and organised crime could learn from their methods.
This is also undue influence. Banks need to be careful lending money to children using parents as guarantors if it can be said the parents were unduly influenced. I have no doubt entire congregations are unduly influenced when they have their asset swiped away and nowhere to go anymore
I think watchtower realizes that they are in for a very rough road of lawsuits in the decades to come so I believe they're trying to build up the funds while they can and property values are high.
What about all the KHs, Assembly Halls and other Bethels that they had sold? Where are the money? Oh went to paid lawsuits! Well their fricking problem!
The kingdom hall I used to go was sold recently, it was easy to get to, in a safe part of town, one bus directly or some had to transfer once, now the kh is in a very shady area of town, for most jws need to take bus , subway and another bus, there is no close parking space for those who have cars. Elderly sisters just don't go there, sadly there are beggars in the area , jws are obvious, so the single sisters, elderly or with children stopped going to the night meetings, probably now the kh may be almost empty
The same thing happened in our city. They sold all but one kh's, and it's in the rough part of town. I don't like going through there during the day, but would never want to at night. It's all the drug dealers, prostitutes, and there's fights all the time. I've heard that maybe 8 or 9 people go there so it probably won't be too long before that one gets sold too.
It seems now every update or broadcasting is about begging for money or your valuables. The poor old bethelites giving a few pennies is shameless, also sad because when they become sick, or too old, they'll be discarded like an old Kleenex 🥺
I don't think it's right that a person has to take a vow of poverty like the Catholic priests do just for a dangerous cult, then get kicked out into the "satanic" world being too old to get a job, no where to live, and the gb doesn't even care while saying they love you. 🤮
They don't get enough and their family back home has to help support them financially, even tho they are also having to give to JW WWW for building, etc.
Wally, I wonder if the decision to sell certain halls depended on how much was still being donated after the "cancelation" of these loans. I know that my previous congregation was dissolved and the Hall sold, and this was a congregation of many older people on fixed incomes. Now most of them have to travel further to Halls in areas where the average income is slightly higher.
Many, many older have passed, not getting enough new younger, and many of us in during the 60-90's have finally faded, df'd, or learned about CSA, for whatever reason have left. From 100 avg attendance to 40 more or less, people just can't afford to be associated with their org anymore
Excerpt from the Watchtower dictionary: Humility - Obedience to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and by extension, congregation elders... whether it makes sense or not...
Do you think the Governing Body is in the real estate business and this is just the front? Free labor to build these Kingdom Halls, tax free, then they can sell in the future for a profit!
Hi Wally and Zeezy..I notice Zeezy jumps up near you for love;but also he seems to be reacting to your intensity..Zeezy is a good friend....From cptsd from wt-When I visit a friend of mine_a kind gentle person with a sweet Russian Blue cat( which we had the joy of in my childhood)...I was crying quietly..He jumped up..put his paws near my shoulders & just looked..These beautiful friends Father has given us are precious..Im a horse and bird and dog person too. I know your video is about serious things..That's why I watch...I just sent those observations and experiences as encouragement.Honestly-for anyone..We are not machines,and these dear creatures are sweet .They,unlike some humans,feel our varying emotions... You-and all...Take care
I just want you to know my cat, Oliver, went NUTS over Zee Zee. He was wasn't being aggressive or anything, just trying to make a friend. He was meowing to Zee Zee through the screen. 🤣💜😭
I remember in Toronto at the assembly hall the asked for every publisher in attendance to donate 300 dollars for the building of a new much needed assembly hall which they never did later they said they used the money to renovate the old assembly hall
"Well why is that," says Stephen Lett... It's because, SCOTCH! duh! Another great video Wally. Thank you so much for keeping us enlightened! 🕯🌟💡***Also Zeezy is rather majestic today***
The financial needs of. ‘The Kingdom’ ..?? .. what kingdom..?? He is outright saying that the WT publishing, property development and movie making corporation is the kingdom. They refer to WT as jehovah when they want $$ or free labour…
It is weird about the kingdom halls because a year before Covid they splitted congregations and many were sent to fill up other congratulations, and there is a video supposedly saying that it was to make use of the empty space...
This can't be repeated, screamed from rooftops and commented enough. That was a "bald faced lie" at several levels. Putting these new 1600 KH promises side by side next to the "master plan" 2 years later of combining congregations and selling KH proves this was part of that "master plan" all along.
Lett talks about "simplifying the design of Kingdom Halls so we can build more faster". What he doesn't admit is the new design suits the requirements of McDonald's, 7-11, and lots of different chain store. Watchtower is a business masquerading as a religion.
Wally you forgot to mention that they also snagged all the cash that various Congregations had been saving up for repairs on their already paid off KH’s. I’ve also heard that those groups that did have their KH’s paid off we’re asked to also send in donations as if they still owed money on the building. 😊
My dad, an elder for more than 50 years so far, said at the time that this JW Broadcasting was clearly in error as it was not in line with biblical principles of "ensuring you have the funds to complete your the tower before starting a tower building project". His mind was set at rest when they "clearly realised their error and corrected" by instead cutting back on all their plans including building projects as well as trimming full time servants. So afaik these plans were all curtailed, obviously I would suspect just through them not getting as much money in (and getting troubling feedback from around the world) as they were hoping rather than a realisation that they were not behaving biblically. I guess this is a large part of why this episode is so embarassing for them, that they scrapped all those plans mentioned so quickly when "Jehovah didn´t provide"
I rather think that the rhetorical question posed in the buybull about who builds a tower (or anything), without first calculating the cost (land, material, labor, etc.) is just common sense that any intelligent human would understand, not anything particularly requiring religious beliefs… 😆.
When you consider how much it cost to build a collage campus with paid labor there now way they’ve gone over 200 million in construction cost since they started the new headquarters.
They had to cancel/pay off the bank loans in preparation to sell the halls...to hard to sell up quick with mortgages on the titles...but they still want your money...
I am going to howl for the rest of my file cause i heeded 30 years of that spiritual slavery to wake myself up. Yes, I feel free now, but when I think how much time i' ve waisted I feel like crying
I’m right with you. Makes me sick to my stomach, the time, and all this brainwashing to myself and children, I almost lost my marriage, now I’m awake and trying to completely disassociate myself.
I'm surprised they haven't sold the KH in my city. I doubt their are that many members attending, and another one with a 25 minute drive. My guess is, based on the area, nobody would want to buy it.
Your cat kills me 😂 My two just adore hanging out in the office & it got worse since I got a standing desk, their « new high bed » apparently Edit : Also, the GB is using those funds to sue victims of SA. Disgusting
@@jakelynbrook Why all of you think you know everything about Jehovah's witnesses but can't answer my simple question?????????all different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????
I used to be a witness and what’s ridiculous about Kingdom Halls is I went to a Hall that was in pretty bad shape and either needs renovation or needs a replacement. It served one big town and two smaller towns that surround the area. The solution we were told was one of the smaller towns would their own hall but spoiler alert that never happened though every chance the congregation could get they would beg for donations for the building of hall and as well as other worldwide needs. It’s obvious that the governing body is pocketing most of the funds and none of it is spent on the organization.
"We have up to date bibles " He talking about that grey travesty? I remember being at the annual meeting when they released it thinking wtf is this? Sounds like cliff notes for toddlers.🥴
The story about the Israelites donating is not a story about people who had nothing. Exodus 12: 35-36 states the Egyptians gave them gold, silver and clothing. This was called “despoiling (or plundering) the Egyptians”
I seriously never knew God was loving, until I got to my most recent church (LCMS Lutheran). It’s crazy how many people forget the Gospel message. And when you’re raised JW, you can’t even identify that as a problem.
They don't like the NT because it's all about Jesus and they don't believe who He really is. The wt says to have salvation you must be in their cult and not believe what the Bible says about it.😢 It totally contradicts what they teach. It's heartbreaking.
I am certain that the cart witnessing has been a miserable failure at bringing in new converts, based on anecdotal descriptions of cart work by those (awake JWs) manning the carts, and those former JWs observing the carts on the streets.
Well all the money they got from selling Brooklyn NY headquarters to Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, I'm sure they had a substantial down payment or paid cash.
My old Kingdom Hall in Florida was built on a double lot. There was supposed to be a 2nd hall built and it never happened. The existing hall had 2 English and 4 Spanish congregations. It was a single hall, not even double. There was no rush to relieve the crowding. Now in Rio de Janeiro I live 2 minutes from one hall and work about 10 minutes walk from another. The one I live near was closed during Covid and maybe has re-opened. I see witnesses out with carts. The other one doesn't look like it re-opened. The sign is still up, but I never see anyone going there. I really question whether they will use that money to build halls. They aren't filling the ones they have. even after selling off so many. They will need less the more PIMOs figure out how to exit. And on another note he keeps saying "we". He doesn't have a job, so where does his donation money come from??
Was watching Saturday night sixscreens of the watchtower TH-cam channel and report came in that watchtower shut down the cart/door witnessing because they have not gotten vendor licenses for that and watchtower not talking about the ramapo project it may not happen.
The builders of Burj Khalifa had to pay their labourers, they got in trouble for how little they paid them and their poor living conditions. Nevertheless, they were paid £2.84 for labourers and £4.34 for carpenters BUT they were paid, making labour costs at least £300,000,000 unlike the poor jws who built Warwick and Wallkill 😢 for free.
As a ex jw what I got say about this is greedy...greedy, how stupid and dirty. It's disgusting.I'm happy I got out when I did. Thanks for the updates Wally. Love your videos.
My oldest sister joined the witnesses 4 years back or so. She was really pushing hard for me to check it out. I was open to the idea until through talking with her I realized....they don't believe Jesus is God...even denying he died and was raised from the dead. This concept just nullifies his work on earth and actually purpose of the Bible. It is a different gospel. After that conversation she really got distant.
Love the false equivalency regarding the bank comparison at 18:43. If a bank cancels your mortgage, you have nothing more to pay and the deeds on contract are yours! In dub town world you don’t own and you still have to pay, oh and you can still loose your house!. To use a stranger things parallel, I think these clowns live in the ‘upside down’ 😳
The governing body talk to the Witnesses like they are little children! MAN what a goofball that guy is! An interesting fact is there never was a wilderness in that area of Sinai!
You gotta love how they're basically like "Y'all need to donate more so we can build more Kingdom Halls. But if MORE ppl AREN'T intending the Halls in person and still doing it on Zoom, we'll close down & sell off more Kingdom Halls!" What an never ending circle of a snake (the leaders) eating it's own tail (its members, who'll supposedly need to sell more tracks to rake in more profits)! Just MORE ways to funnel more cash to the governing body while blaming the parishioners for smaller attendance and slower growth
So I have a cousin whose dad was an elder, and her grandpa was the presiding overseer. She canceled her wedding engagement because of issues with her fiancé. Dodged a bullet, because later on, after he was married to someone else, he was incarcerated for csa. Anyway, my cousin was and still is a devout JW. She was devastated when she was put on private reproof for canceling the engagement. The scripture they used to support this was “let your yes mean yes, and your no mean no”. If you actually read the scripture, it is obvious that Jesus was referring to not lying. She wasn’t lying when she accepted his proposal for marriage, and she also wasn’t lying when she decided that he was just too weird to want to marry him. Being engaged is not the same as being married, and they really couldn’t present any scriptural backing as to why someone would need to be put on reproof for deciding not to marry someone, but I digress. What we have here is a video of a governing body member boldfaced lying about something. This is the kind of lying Jesus was referring to in the passage. Besides Rolexes and scotch, I am positive that these funds are being used in out of court csa cases. How many billions of dollars do you need to own a website and print small magazines? The answer is: However much the victims’ lawyers say it would take to not go to court.
As An Aussie, I had to laugh at the backdrop. Apparently, the remote Outback has far more people and generates far more night time light than the coasts, which have 95% of the population living on them. What a crock. They don't need money. They need geography lessons... Also, talk about the kind of arrogant incompetence that I don't think that Jesus would have liked. I live in poverty, but have, over the course of my life, forgiven thousands of dollars of loans that I made to people who could no longer afford to repay. Indeed, I have a philosophy that if I give people money, it won't come back to me. It makes life easier and creates less stress for everybody. PS. I have similar problems with my cats, when I try to create content. I feel your pain... 😸😸😸
@@vusimngomezulu2500 No. Each individual church is made up of the only true believers and the rest are at best sinners and at worst satan's mates. Quantum theology. A bit like Schrodinger's cat. Everyone is both 100% correct and 100% wrong at the same time! 🤣
@@vusimngomezulu2500 No. There are literally NO people on earth who "follow the Bible". It is a book that contains content written at the earliest 1000 BCE (although the "Song of Deborah", could be 200 years earlier). However, it was greatly redacted during the Post-Exilic period to give us the Jewish take on the Persian Monotheistic god, Zoroaster. Its latest parts are the various epistles of the New Testament, many of which date to the second century CE. It is completely contradictory. For example, there are, IIRC, three versions of the "Ten Commandments", none of which actually contain only ten commandments. Just compare protestant and catholic versions of the Bible to see the difficulty they have with getting ten verses each with a Traditional "commandment". It also contains and condones many things that are anathema to modern civilization, like slavery and genocide. It mentions abortion only once and this is with approval, as it allows for a husband, who thinks his wife has cheated to take her to the priests, so they can mix up a concoction, that will abort the baby. Despite this, anti-abortion sentiment is a key component of most Christian's worldview, because they think, incorrectly, that the Bible is against it. The Trinity is not mentioned once in the Bible, yet is a Fundamental of 99% of Christian beliefs. Add to this, the many outright contradictions, which mean that irrespective of which path you chose (justice, or mercy?), you'll find that some passages support your view, while others do not. Basically, the Bible is a collection of Books (66 all up, with 27 being found in the Old Testament), written by different writers from different cultures, with different audiences and different purposes. Isaiah was actually making a prophecy to warn King Ahaz and this prophecy was done and dusted a few pages later. The key word in this section of Hebrew text is "Almah", which means "young woman" (they had another different word for virgin), and the way it is written indicates that the woman is already pregnant at the time of Isaiah's writing. However, Matthew and Luke needed the Messiah to be able to compete alongside other miraculous figures of the ancient world, where virgin births and being raped by gods was a fairly normal origin story, so they used it. They were also using the This is why even though Isaiah 7:14 doesn't even mention a virgin, the supposed Virgin Birth is a big part of the New Testament tradition. Basically, without a shit-ton of cognitive dissonance, any genuine attempt to comprehend the Bible as a single, wholistic document is going to end in disaster. Much like any attempt to be Christ's "followers according to the Bible". Basically, if it were really the "Word of GOD", it would be precisely one phrase long: Do unto others, as THEY would have you do unto THEM.
I remember a wt article/or interview of a lady from the Phillipians,who got up in very early morning hours-made some type of food,sold it...then went in ministry...Do these people living in luxcery (wrong spelling),think of them...???
What happened to their biblical teaching that they used to quote Luke 14:28-30 "But don’t begin until you count the cost. For who would begin construction of a building without first calculating the cost to see if there is enough money to finish it? 29 Otherwise, you might complete only the foundation before running out of money, and then everyone would laugh at you. 30 They would say, ‘There’s the person who started that building and couldn’t afford to finish it!’ Why don't the GB practice what they preach
This people have no education. Specially in economics. I bet they have made lots of bad business deals with donation money and org is heavy in debt. Plus the child abuse cases.
If Stephen Lett is so concerned about WT's financial position and so desperate to raise more cash for the org, maybe he should sell his own personal property investment ($250,000 worth of land) and donate to WT. He is possibly the wealthiest GB member...
Well if they would have told the truth from the outset they would be better off. They could have told them that for taxation reasons they are canceling loans but still need the donated funds for it. Instead they just cover everything with more lies.
I had a dream that my mortgage company sent me a letter proposing that my mortgage could be cancelled and that I pay the same amount of my mortgage payment in perpetuity and not participate in my current or future equity which I no longer would own and have surrendered. They also proposed that my home could be sold at anytime and that I was responsible for all maintenance and upgrades. In the event that my home was sold I would be relocated to a home further away from my current location and possibly in an undesirable neighborhood and of unknown quality. Thankfully due to currently being a nation of laws allowing ownership of property I declined the offer. "That letter sent up more red flags than a communist Chinese parade", I dreamed. When I awoke from my dream I was shaking in amazement being happy that no such thing would be proposed or even thought of in an awoken reality. As I proceded into my day I thought that forced relinquising of ownership was why the feudal system was a failure as human beings realized they could be free and enjoy the type of Christianity belief that Christ offered. I was very happy to be AWAKE and not ASLEEP AND NOT LIVING IN A WORLD CONTROLLED BY THE NWO. I later questioned that former thought as I questioned if I was really AWAKE yet from my dream.
Then: "We needs at least 14,000 more Kingdom Halls world wide" Now: Uhhhh, can someone come back to the Kingdom Hall? Please? This talk aged like 🥛. Thank you Wally, you made my day my friend 😊
Seems to me they are the ones demonstrating a lack of faith!!! If you're the one true religion that has a direct connection to the God that created the universe why would you have to solicit funds....🤔
Wally, no need to be embarrassed - you didn't get it wrong. As you said, it has been deleted from the broadcasts, but there was no link as to where the talks could be accessed. So why look any further? A form of website new light indexing. It's harder to find if you want it - you can't stumble on it (well you can - bad pun) by accident but they can claim that it's still there - which it is. Great stuff - keep it up!
Iirc, Lett & his family comes from a real estate back ground. At the end of the day, it’s quite genius that WT would pay off these loans & then guilt it’s members to “donate” to cover the cost. With a loan, there’s a set amount that’s stated to show when said loan will be paid off; now, there’s no set amount, so at the end of the day, WT will receive more than what they paid b/c the congregations would be oblivious as to when such a loan is paid in full. Used to be an account servant for yrs & taught many MS who took that role after being appointed as an elder.
Vow of poverty, my ancestors were former slaves of oppression; became farmers and home owners and done exceptionally well. They made enormous contributions throughout the urban communities.
Remember Yearbooks? I remember a sister telling me that I shouldn't go get one because they were expensive to make and I hadn't donated enough. She was constantly watching people and the donation box. Disgusting...
Wow! Sounds like she had her "elderette" role down pat! Geez! I don't miss any of it!
I remember well the yearbooks, and in our congregation we had to pay for them regardless of any contributions we made into the “contribution boxes” 😆…
@@greyberet1, There was a time when you didn't have to pay for literature at the literature counter; that was before the Greedy Eight took over. It is my understanding that now you not only are made to pay for it, if you place it in field service you are expected to put whatever was "contributed" in the KH contribution box! What a racket!
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I’m a raised-in exjw from Montreal, canada and I don’t remember a time when we didn’t have to pay for any literature! Maybe it was different where you live…?
And, yes, not only did we have to pay for the magazines that we “placed”, we were also supposed to drop the money that we received for them into the contribution box.
Rutherfraud was right, it’s a racket 😂!
@@greyberet1, I have found the "rules" were not evenly applied from country to country or lacale to locale, for that matter. I am in the US and attended and was a publisher in three different states. Most of the congratulations had families that were reasonably affluent, maybe that played into it? I left in 2000 after spending 33+ years in. I. Have. Not. Missed. It!
Hi Wally and Zeezy, I don't think witnesses even pay attention to these talks, they just clap when everyone else does. If they really listened they could see through the bs.
No kidding. This wasn't even subtle.
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Years ago back in the early 2000s after mom and dad passed away we sold the farm and the elders came looking for their you might as well say 1/10 of the sales from the farm and The Farmhouse and when we told them no my brother and I we lost our privileges at the hall yeah it's all about money
Unbelievable!
So dirty...
Over 20 years ago the elder weirdos lost the privilege of setting on my couch, after rebuking me for not giving" Brooklyn" it's due "worship"! They got 10 seconds to get passed my front door before I planted my boot in their ass!
Woah, really?!
When was the last time they helped a struggling family pay their rent, it was always done on a personal basis between two people and nothing from the actual organization. They cause fear and anxiety if they don't give their money to them. The witness people are normally very sweet people from my experience, and I feel bad they're being taken advantage of.
Why did they sell their previous Kingdom halls and now they need to build new ones to sell AGAIN? What a Scam!
Wow, this is super upsetting! They are selling kingdom halls left and right... Why can't people see that the ORG is using them to build and make profit?
Because they’re brainwashed into thinking that it’s “part of their service to god to donate “
It’s not all that different from how Mormons all do a bunch of data entry for Jesus when they do their family history work and the church profits from the documents they digitize and transcribe.
According to what little research I did there are around 120,000 kingdom halls out there world wide. If I remember correctly there are roughly 8,000,000 members worldwide. This equates to around 66.6 “no pun intended” members per congregation. Each building has the capacity of around 120-150 although I have seen some with capacity of around 300. So it seems like the thought of a organization needing 14,000 more KH’s world wide to accompany a worldwide system that is operating at half capacity is complete BS.
I mean it just takes a little common sense to see that this leadership is simply bogus.
All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible??????????
And some KH's are shared. In the one I attended, 3 separate territories shared the one KH. On a Sunday, each territory took turns where the meetings were held at 10.00am, 1.00pm and 4.00pm and the weeknight meetings were held on a Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday night, each territory assigned to their specific weeknight.
Upon listening to Lett again I noticed he did say the money from the sale of their Brooklyn buildings was used to build the new Warwick HQ and to buy further properties in the future to facilitate their move out of New York. He didn't specify what further properties and what they'd be worth. I wonder how long after this video was made that the Ramapo media production/movie studio project was conceived.
Lest we not forget how they would always pass a resolution to send extra money to the society that we never really had! Several times I wanted to object, but that would have been suicide.
I remember the first KH we attended was owned by the members, and somehow they finigled sale to them and then sold it to a Spanish priest now it's a Spanish speaking church! It's extortion from the members of each KH, then to ask for a set donation from the members is a criminal act too!
Watchtower are money launderers. They extort money from people and give nothing back. Then sell buildings paid for by the rank and file to other religions. Surely this is supporting babylon the great. Watchtower are so corrupt the mafia and organised crime could learn from their methods.
It's called a long con.
This is also undue influence. Banks need to be careful lending money to children using parents as guarantors if it can be said the parents were unduly influenced. I have no doubt entire congregations are unduly influenced when they have their asset swiped away and nowhere to go anymore
Wow. That's cruel making you learn Spanish so you could understand what they were talking about.
I think watchtower realizes that they are in for a very rough road of lawsuits in the decades to come so I believe they're trying to build up the funds while they can and property values are high.
The watchtower is a dirty organization and they are suing their own members in Spain for posting videos and speaking against them.
Maybe they are buying FTX investments.
What about all the KHs, Assembly Halls and other Bethels that they had sold? Where are the money? Oh went to paid lawsuits! Well their fricking problem!
The kingdom hall I used to go was sold recently, it was easy to get to, in a safe part of town, one bus directly or some had to transfer once, now the kh is in a very shady area of town, for most jws need to take bus , subway and another bus, there is no close parking space for those who have cars. Elderly sisters just don't go there, sadly there are beggars in the area , jws are obvious, so the single sisters, elderly or with children stopped going to the night meetings, probably now the kh may be almost empty
Good news 👍👏👐
The same thing happened in our city. They sold all but one kh's, and it's in the rough part of town. I don't like going through there during the day, but would never want to at night. It's all the drug dealers, prostitutes, and there's fights all the time. I've heard that maybe 8 or 9 people go there so it probably won't be too long before that one gets sold too.
that s how they find the convicing arguments to sell all the kh s that are not full up I presume , , ,
@@johnbrock5668 Yup... excuses, excuses... just keep sending more money even of you can't afford it because WE need it! 🤮 They're so greedy.
My old Kingdom Hall is now a vet clinic
Shocked when I was told how many lawsuits. Flock should not pay where is all that money
Face it we are like battered wives afraid to stand up call out false lies
The cat is like: And you're not fulfilling your promise of treats and pets human.
I can't believe I was ever a member. My how things have changed since the 1990's. So glad I faded away.
Amen!
🍃⚘️YES!!⚘️🍃
This comment right here 💯💯
Me too. And I'm happy I had kids after I left so they don't have to be apart of it.
Yes....but I never left "Jehovah "... still believe in God
OMG, your cat agrees with you too! Listening so intently. ☺️
It seems now every update or broadcasting is about begging for money or your valuables. The poor old bethelites giving a few pennies is shameless, also sad because when they become sick, or too old, they'll be discarded like an old Kleenex 🥺
Discarded like used toilet paper would be more like it 😂!
I don't think it's right that a person has to take a vow of poverty like the Catholic priests do just for a dangerous cult, then get kicked out into the "satanic" world being too old to get a job, no where to live, and the gb doesn't even care while saying they love you. 🤮
They don't get enough and their family back home has to help support them financially, even tho they are also having to give to JW WWW for building, etc.
@@greyberet1 ToiLett paper for sure.
@@gbnomore3918
A good one sir/madam 😂!
Wally, I wonder if the decision to sell certain halls depended on how much was still being donated after the "cancelation" of these loans. I know that my previous congregation was dissolved and the Hall sold, and this was a congregation of many older people on fixed incomes. Now most of them have to travel further to Halls in areas where the average income is slightly higher.
Many, many older have passed, not getting enough new younger, and many of us in during the 60-90's have finally faded, df'd, or learned about CSA, for whatever reason have left. From 100 avg attendance to 40 more or less, people just can't afford to be associated with their org anymore
Humility is something you’ll never see from Watchtower…thank you for clearing that up Wally. You’re awesome!!!
Rarely see it from elders either.
Humility is not a word in the cult’s vocabulary!
@@superdave1921 exactly. But they expect you to be humble.
Excerpt from the Watchtower dictionary: Humility - Obedience to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and by extension, congregation elders... whether it makes sense or not...
Also check the body langage @ 18:50 - 18:55 - LOL
Remember, a significant amount of the cost of the Burj would be labor costs too, something WT doesn't have to worry about...
Do you think the Governing Body is in the real estate business and this is just the front? Free labor to build these Kingdom Halls, tax free, then they can sell in the future for a profit!
Hi Wally and Zeezy..I notice Zeezy jumps up near you for love;but also he seems to be reacting to your intensity..Zeezy is a good friend....From cptsd from wt-When I visit a friend of mine_a kind gentle person with a sweet Russian Blue cat( which we had the joy of in my childhood)...I was crying quietly..He jumped up..put his paws near my shoulders & just looked..These beautiful friends Father has given us are precious..Im a horse and bird and dog person too.
I know your video is about serious things..That's why I watch...I just sent those observations and experiences as encouragement.Honestly-for anyone..We are not machines,and these dear creatures are sweet .They,unlike some humans,feel our varying emotions...
You-and all...Take care
I just want you to know my cat, Oliver, went NUTS over Zee Zee. He was wasn't being aggressive or anything, just trying to make a friend. He was meowing to Zee Zee through the screen. 🤣💜😭
I used to think my donations just went to magazines and other materials. How naive I was.
I remember in Toronto at the assembly hall the asked for every publisher in attendance to donate 300 dollars for the building of a new much needed assembly hall which they never did later they said they used the money to renovate the old assembly hall
You are such a happy fellow! Appreciate that in view of the horrible things J W Corporate does............They continue to be exposed!
"Well why is that," says Stephen Lett... It's because, SCOTCH! duh! Another great video Wally. Thank you so much for keeping us enlightened! 🕯🌟💡***Also Zeezy is rather majestic today***
The financial needs of. ‘The Kingdom’ ..??
.. what kingdom..??
He is outright saying that the WT publishing, property development and movie making corporation is the kingdom.
They refer to WT as jehovah when they want $$ or free labour…
All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible???????????
It is weird about the kingdom halls because a year before Covid they splitted congregations and many were sent to fill up other congratulations, and there is a video supposedly saying that it was to make use of the empty space...
This can't be repeated, screamed from rooftops and commented enough. That was a "bald faced lie" at several levels.
Putting these new 1600 KH promises side by side next to the "master plan" 2 years later of combining congregations and selling KH proves this was part of that "master plan" all along.
Lett talks about "simplifying the design of Kingdom Halls so we can build more faster". What he doesn't admit is the new design suits the requirements of McDonald's, 7-11, and lots of different chain store. Watchtower is a business masquerading as a religion.
Wally you forgot to mention that they also snagged all the cash that various Congregations had been saving up for repairs on their already paid off KH’s. I’ve also heard that those groups that did have their KH’s paid off we’re asked to also send in donations as if they still owed money on the building. 😊
My dad, an elder for more than 50 years so far, said at the time that this JW Broadcasting was clearly in error as it was not in line with biblical principles of "ensuring you have the funds to complete your the tower before starting a tower building project". His mind was set at rest when they "clearly realised their error and corrected" by instead cutting back on all their plans including building projects as well as trimming full time servants. So afaik these plans were all curtailed, obviously I would suspect just through them not getting as much money in (and getting troubling feedback from around the world) as they were hoping rather than a realisation that they were not behaving biblically. I guess this is a large part of why this episode is so embarassing for them, that they scrapped all those plans mentioned so quickly when "Jehovah didn´t provide"
I rather think that the rhetorical question posed in the buybull about who builds a tower (or anything), without first calculating the cost (land, material, labor, etc.) is just common sense that any intelligent human would understand, not anything particularly requiring religious beliefs… 😆.
@@greyberet1 I like creative “play on words.”
@@jakelynbrook
I also like puns, but I’m not quite sure about the relevance to my post, if such was your intention…
@@greyberet1 play on words, “BuyBull!” Good one ☝️! And your thread made very good sense. ✔️✅👍☝️🤔😂😳😇😎
@@jakelynbrook
Thank you 😊.
When you consider how much it cost to build a collage campus with paid labor there now way they’ve gone over 200 million in construction cost since they started the new headquarters.
21:21 The timing of the cat was too perfect! :D
They had to cancel/pay off the bank loans in preparation to sell the halls...to hard to sell up quick with mortgages on the titles...but they still want your money...
Take legal action against the Watchtower-Criminals!
Now they still have "demon"crat protection. . .How long God? How long God?. . .do people need to suffer from this cult?!?
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All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????
@@smy74 All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????
@@terridovey7648 All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????
I am going to howl for the rest of my file cause i heeded 30 years of that spiritual slavery to wake myself up. Yes, I feel free now, but when I think how much time i' ve waisted I feel like crying
I’m literally about to vomit. The deception is so thick, such a violation to my family…
I’m right with you. Makes me sick to my stomach, the time, and all this brainwashing to myself and children, I almost lost my marriage, now I’m awake and trying to completely disassociate myself.
Simplified the Design of the Pagan Temples?? The KH 's i went to were about as Plain as you could get and one of them was even a Log Cabin!!!
I'm surprised they haven't sold the KH in my city. I doubt their are that many members attending, and another one with a 25 minute drive. My guess is, based on the area, nobody would want to buy it.
You must live in my hometown. The English got sent to the neighboring town 30 minutes away, and the Spanish get to use the local Hall.
Hey Wally could you cover the JW's suing a ex jw victims org in spain?
Yes. I'd like that too
Your cat kills me 😂
My two just adore hanging out in the office & it got worse since I got a standing desk, their « new high bed » apparently
Edit : Also, the GB is using those funds to sue victims of SA. Disgusting
All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bibl??????
If that is the case, then the ACLU should become involved.
@@jakelynbrook So all different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible???????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 I really can’t tell you that, but next time I talk to Jesus I’ll ask him!
@@jakelynbrook Why all of you think you know everything about Jehovah's witnesses but can't answer my simple question?????????all different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????
I used to be a witness and what’s ridiculous about Kingdom Halls is I went to a Hall that was in pretty bad shape and either needs renovation or needs a replacement. It served one big town and two smaller towns that surround the area. The solution we were told was one of the smaller towns would their own hall but spoiler alert that never happened though every chance the congregation could get they would beg for donations for the building of hall and as well as other worldwide needs. It’s obvious that the governing body is pocketing most of the funds and none of it is spent on the organization.
U can only squeeze people for so much for so long! Things begin to implode!
"We have up to date bibles " He talking about that grey travesty? I remember being at the annual meeting when they released it thinking wtf is this? Sounds like cliff notes for toddlers.🥴
Stephen Lett is so very difficult to listen to. His goofy way of talking is just nauseating.
I tried so hard not to dislike him when i was in
It's insulting. He acts like his followers are 5 year olds.
Maybe Lett is another Wayne Gacy, just waiting to be exposed…
Never know, right? Gacy also had a side hustle as a clown, remember?
@@GodO4- me too. I often wondered if others felt the same
A live caricature. . .for sure! 🤡
The story about the Israelites donating is not a story about people who had nothing. Exodus 12: 35-36 states the Egyptians gave them gold, silver and clothing. This was called “despoiling (or plundering) the Egyptians”
Oh my this made my heart rate spike! They sell these kh’s and then demand donations to build more! So angry!!
Heyy you took my suggestion!! 😊 That was a fun little surprise to see!
I seriously never knew God was loving, until I got to my most recent church (LCMS Lutheran). It’s crazy how many people forget the Gospel message. And when you’re raised JW, you can’t even identify that as a problem.
My parents live in Guatemala and are on the committee that is in charged of selling off Kingdom Hall properties 😅
I'd love to hear you elaborate more on them not worshipping the God of the NT, only the OT. I've noticed this also.
They don't like the NT because it's all about Jesus and they don't believe who He really is. The wt says to have salvation you must be in their cult and not believe what the Bible says about it.😢 It totally contradicts what they teach. It's heartbreaking.
Their God of the OT is Satan
I am certain that the cart witnessing has been a miserable failure at bringing in new converts, based on anecdotal descriptions of cart work by those (awake JWs) manning the carts, and those former JWs observing the carts on the streets.
Does anyone know how much it cost to built Warwick headquarters?
Well all the money they got from selling Brooklyn NY headquarters to Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, I'm sure they had a substantial down payment or paid cash.
So "well done" Wally. I love your cat too! 💞
My old Kingdom Hall in Florida was built on a double lot. There was supposed to be a 2nd hall built and it never happened. The existing hall had 2 English and 4 Spanish congregations. It was a single hall, not even double. There was no rush to relieve the crowding. Now in Rio de Janeiro I live 2 minutes from one hall and work about 10 minutes walk from another. The one I live near was closed during Covid and maybe has re-opened. I see witnesses out with carts. The other one doesn't look like it re-opened. The sign is still up, but I never see anyone going there. I really question whether they will use that money to build halls. They aren't filling the ones they have. even after selling off so many. They will need less the more PIMOs figure out how to exit. And on another note he keeps saying "we". He doesn't have a job, so where does his donation money come from??
Was watching Saturday night sixscreens of the watchtower TH-cam channel and report came in that watchtower shut down the cart/door witnessing because they have not gotten vendor licenses for that and watchtower not talking about the ramapo project it may not happen.
The builders of Burj Khalifa had to pay their labourers, they got in trouble for how little they paid them and their poor living conditions. Nevertheless, they were paid £2.84 for labourers and £4.34 for carpenters BUT they were paid, making labour costs at least £300,000,000 unlike the poor jws who built Warwick and Wallkill 😢 for free.
Jehovah drop some money out the sky for these old men. You know like you did the manna back in the day.
And when they grab the cash. . .they die instantly!
@@smy74 😅😅😅👌
As a ex jw what I got say about this is greedy...greedy, how stupid and dirty. It's disgusting.I'm happy I got out when I did. Thanks for the updates Wally. Love your videos.
My oldest sister joined the witnesses 4 years back or so. She was really pushing hard for me to check it out. I was open to the idea until through talking with her I realized....they don't believe Jesus is God...even denying he died and was raised from the dead. This concept just nullifies his work on earth and actually purpose of the Bible. It is a different gospel.
After that conversation she really got distant.
Wait…. You have to pay for the carts? Or is it a Congo thing? JT and Lady C have a great video on the bullshit of assemblies being in a deficit.
It took me a minute to realize those are cats at the beginning and end. My brain is malfunctioning with all this new light! 😅
Love the false equivalency regarding the bank comparison at 18:43. If a bank cancels your mortgage, you have nothing more to pay and the deeds on contract are yours! In dub town world you don’t own and you still have to pay, oh and you can still loose your house!. To use a stranger things parallel, I think these clowns live in the ‘upside down’ 😳
I have an idea. They could stop spending $850 on scotch and $250k on property in Alabama. That might help
0:05 I promise you, you'll deeply regret not copyrighting that.
What do you mean?
If someone embezzled millions from the organization, they could never report.
The governing body talk to the Witnesses like they are little children! MAN what a goofball that guy is! An interesting fact is there never was a wilderness in that area of Sinai!
EXCELLENT ONE WALLY!!!
You gotta love how they're basically like "Y'all need to donate more so we can build more Kingdom Halls. But if MORE ppl AREN'T intending the Halls in person and still doing it on Zoom, we'll close down & sell off more Kingdom Halls!"
What an never ending circle of a snake (the leaders) eating it's own tail (its members, who'll supposedly need to sell more tracks to rake in more profits)! Just MORE ways to funnel more cash to the governing body while blaming the parishioners for smaller attendance and slower growth
So I have a cousin whose dad was an elder, and her grandpa was the presiding overseer. She canceled her wedding engagement because of issues with her fiancé. Dodged a bullet, because later on, after he was married to someone else, he was incarcerated for csa. Anyway, my cousin was and still is a devout JW. She was devastated when she was put on private reproof for canceling the engagement. The scripture they used to support this was “let your yes mean yes, and your no mean no”. If you actually read the scripture, it is obvious that Jesus was referring to not lying. She wasn’t lying when she accepted his proposal for marriage, and she also wasn’t lying when she decided that he was just too weird to want to marry him. Being engaged is not the same as being married, and they really couldn’t present any scriptural backing as to why someone would need to be put on reproof for deciding not to marry someone, but I digress. What we have here is a video of a governing body member boldfaced lying about something. This is the kind of lying Jesus was referring to in the passage. Besides Rolexes and scotch, I am positive that these funds are being used in out of court csa cases.
How many billions of dollars do you need to own a website and print small magazines? The answer is: However much the victims’ lawyers say it would take to not go to court.
I'm confused. When I was a member, they were building Kingdom Halls. Why now are they selling them?
As An Aussie, I had to laugh at the backdrop. Apparently, the remote Outback has far more people and generates far more night time light than the coasts, which have 95% of the population living on them.
What a crock. They don't need money. They need geography lessons...
Also, talk about the kind of arrogant incompetence that I don't think that Jesus would have liked. I live in poverty, but have, over the course of my life, forgiven thousands of dollars of loans that I made to people who could no longer afford to repay. Indeed, I have a philosophy that if I give people money, it won't come back to me. It makes life easier and creates less stress for everybody.
PS. I have similar problems with my cats, when I try to create content. I feel your pain... 😸😸😸
All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible???????????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 No. Each individual church is made up of the only true believers and the rest are at best sinners and at worst satan's mates.
Quantum theology. A bit like Schrodinger's cat. Everyone is both 100% correct and 100% wrong at the same time! 🤣
I had to go back and check…
Brisbane and Sydney were just dots.. ha..
@@steann1 All of you ignore my simple question, all different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible???????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 No. There are literally NO people on earth who "follow the Bible". It is a book that contains content written at the earliest 1000 BCE (although the "Song of Deborah", could be 200 years earlier).
However, it was greatly redacted during the Post-Exilic period to give us the Jewish take on the Persian Monotheistic god, Zoroaster. Its latest parts are the various epistles of the New Testament, many of which date to the second century CE.
It is completely contradictory. For example, there are, IIRC, three versions of the "Ten Commandments", none of which actually contain only ten commandments. Just compare protestant and catholic versions of the Bible to see the difficulty they have with getting ten verses each with a Traditional "commandment".
It also contains and condones many things that are anathema to modern civilization, like slavery and genocide. It mentions abortion only once and this is with approval, as it allows for a husband, who thinks his wife has cheated to take her to the priests, so they can mix up a concoction, that will abort the baby. Despite this, anti-abortion sentiment is a key component of most Christian's worldview, because they think, incorrectly, that the Bible is against it.
The Trinity is not mentioned once in the Bible, yet is a Fundamental of 99% of Christian beliefs.
Add to this, the many outright contradictions, which mean that irrespective of which path you chose (justice, or mercy?), you'll find that some passages support your view, while others do not.
Basically, the Bible is a collection of Books (66 all up, with 27 being found in the Old Testament), written by different writers from different cultures, with different audiences and different purposes. Isaiah was actually making a prophecy to warn King Ahaz and this prophecy was done and dusted a few pages later. The key word in this section of Hebrew text is "Almah", which means "young woman" (they had another different word for virgin), and the way it is written indicates that the woman is already pregnant at the time of Isaiah's writing.
However, Matthew and Luke needed the Messiah to be able to compete alongside other miraculous figures of the ancient world, where virgin births and being raped by gods was a fairly normal origin story, so they used it. They were also using the
This is why even though Isaiah 7:14 doesn't even mention a virgin, the supposed Virgin Birth is a big part of the New Testament tradition.
Basically, without a shit-ton of cognitive dissonance, any genuine attempt to comprehend the Bible as a single, wholistic document is going to end in disaster.
Much like any attempt to be Christ's "followers according to the Bible".
Basically, if it were really the "Word of GOD", it would be precisely one phrase long: Do unto others, as THEY would have you do unto THEM.
I remember a wt article/or interview of a lady from the Phillipians,who got up in very early morning hours-made some type of food,sold it...then went in ministry...Do these people living in luxcery (wrong spelling),think of them...???
What happened to their biblical teaching that they used to quote Luke 14:28-30 "But don’t begin until you count the cost. For who would begin construction of a building without first calculating the cost to see if there is enough money to finish it? 29 Otherwise, you might complete only the foundation before running out of money, and then everyone would laugh at you. 30 They would say, ‘There’s the person who started that building and couldn’t afford to finish it!’
Why don't the GB practice what they preach
This people have no education. Specially in economics. I bet they have made lots of bad business deals with donation money and org is heavy in debt. Plus the child abuse cases.
Plus money needed to take care of all their ocean front property's. . .we should experience living in too
If Stephen Lett is so concerned about WT's financial position and so desperate to raise more cash for the org, maybe he should sell his own personal property investment ($250,000 worth of land) and donate to WT. He is possibly the wealthiest GB member...
Well if they would have told the truth from the outset they would be better off. They could have told them that for taxation reasons they are canceling loans but still need the donated funds for it. Instead they just cover everything with more lies.
When is Elmer Fudd going to stop begging for money? They’re beginning to look like politicians!
“My mom always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.”
-Stephen Lett
Great Job Wally 💯
I had a dream that my mortgage company sent me a letter proposing that my mortgage could be cancelled and that I pay the same amount of my mortgage payment in perpetuity and not participate in my current or future equity which I no longer would own and have surrendered. They also proposed that my home could be sold at anytime and that I was responsible for all maintenance and upgrades. In the event that my home was sold I would be relocated to a home further away from my current location and possibly in an undesirable neighborhood and of unknown quality. Thankfully due to currently being a nation of laws allowing ownership of property I declined the offer.
"That letter sent up more red flags than a communist Chinese parade", I dreamed. When I awoke from my dream I was shaking in amazement being happy that no such thing would be proposed or even thought of in an awoken reality. As I proceded into my day I thought that forced relinquising of ownership was why the feudal system was a failure as human beings realized they could be free and enjoy the type of Christianity belief that Christ offered. I was very happy to be AWAKE and not ASLEEP AND NOT LIVING IN A WORLD CONTROLLED BY THE NWO.
I later questioned that former thought as I questioned if I was really AWAKE yet from my dream.
😂 love it 🕊
Then: "We needs at least 14,000 more Kingdom Halls world wide"
Now: Uhhhh, can someone come back to the Kingdom Hall? Please?
This talk aged like 🥛. Thank you Wally, you made my day my friend 😊
Simplified design now? Kingdom halls seem to be already simple. What more simple they're talking about? No bathroom maybe !!🤔
It’s gonna be an open box concept
Seems to me they are the ones demonstrating a lack of faith!!! If you're the one true religion that has a direct connection to the God that created the universe why would you have to solicit funds....🤔
He forgot to mention the millions they spend in legal fees and settlements. Hhmmmmm.....
JW/GB JUST MORE MONEY 💰 ALWAYS MONEY 💰
All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????????
Music unites Humanity and religion and politicians are who divide Humanity. Many true stories.
Wally, no need to be embarrassed - you didn't get it wrong. As you said, it has been deleted from the broadcasts, but there was no link as to where the talks could be accessed. So why look any further? A form of website new light indexing.
It's harder to find if you want it - you can't stumble on it (well you can - bad pun) by accident but they can claim that it's still there - which it is.
Great stuff - keep it up!
Did you notice when Lett said We have many expensive expenditures that will last for years! Well what about Armageddon is coming any minute?
ExJW Beliefs Clarified. Wally received New Light.
All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible????????
Great channel im a x jw i was shaking my head when i heard this
It makes me sick to think that this blatant liar is considered an “anointed” and that some JW still believe this obvious liar. Truly sickening.
Iirc, Lett & his family comes from a real estate back ground.
At the end of the day, it’s quite genius that WT would pay off these loans & then guilt it’s members to “donate” to cover the cost. With a loan, there’s a set amount that’s stated to show when said loan will be paid off; now, there’s no set amount, so at the end of the day, WT will receive more than what they paid b/c the congregations would be oblivious as to when such a loan is paid in full.
Used to be an account servant for yrs & taught many MS who took that role after being appointed as an elder.
Vow of poverty, my ancestors were former slaves of oppression; became farmers and home owners and done exceptionally well. They made enormous contributions throughout the urban communities.
Someone or a group of someone most probably got rich after that NY property sale.
FOLLOW THE MONEY!
21:23 cat flashes his a*s at wallie's 'WOW' haha