Yes, there is a second one | Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus II

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  • The Maus is an easily recognisable vehicle, marking the largest and heaviest production tank of WW2. At nearly 200 tonnes, the Maus, fully loaded and ready for combat, was a feat of engineering which lacked a purpose by the time it was finished. Despite having been ordered into mass production, Allied bombing had slowed deliveries and then all but a few hulls and turrets were finished when the project was scrapped. Even though the Maus was effectively dead as a project by November 1943, the story for the vehicle and even for a possible follow-up ‘Maus II’ was far from over. Maus II would not be a new vehicle, but the improvement of the first design, most noticeably in the turret.
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    An article by Andrew Hills
    Narrated by Stan Lucian
    Sound edited by Kraiger
    Edited by ya boy Jim Zawacki

ความคิดเห็น • 99

  • @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
    @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Don't speak to me or my son ever again :D

    • @igoryst3049
      @igoryst3049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      and that one weird cousin E-100

    • @OltsuSuomesta
      @OltsuSuomesta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey iron!

    • @andreimorar5249
      @andreimorar5249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sir, now I really find you everywhere I go on TH-cam. Neat

  • @comradevlad7459
    @comradevlad7459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Wargaming: *interesting*

  • @kwkfortythree39
    @kwkfortythree39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very interesting those pictures with Maus hull and turrets and a tiger I turret on top of them, along with more curved parts of same turrets

  • @ThroneOfBhaal
    @ThroneOfBhaal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    'Edited by ya boy Jim Zawacki'
    hahaha love it :D

  • @davidjanuszewski5020
    @davidjanuszewski5020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An excellent presentation, best I've seen.

  • @miamak7733
    @miamak7733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    E 100 Bunker here noow

  • @Khalifrio
    @Khalifrio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is it with repeating what has already been said?

  • @JMiskovsky
    @JMiskovsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bad idea from beginning. 128 mm gun needs such monstrosity? Waste of resources. How many Hatzers you could produce for cost of this monostrocity?

    • @Dth-str
      @Dth-str 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right

  • @eliottBerlemont
    @eliottBerlemont 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bob semple

  • @bossjulian_
    @bossjulian_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so its maus with e100 turret lol

  • @actualsize123
    @actualsize123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you repeat yourself a lot

  • @martinpekara9110
    @martinpekara9110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Sorry to nitpick but there is a mistake in the title of the video its not Panzerkampfwagen VII but VIII

    • @TanksEncyclopediaYT
      @TanksEncyclopediaYT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That is correct and corrected. Slip of the finger.

  • @wyld_wolfwin
    @wyld_wolfwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Fascinating, can't wait to see it in world of tanks as a premium tank that you get from 6 different marathons at once

    • @dinogranolabars4795
      @dinogranolabars4795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      and at tier 8

    • @ThroneOfBhaal
      @ThroneOfBhaal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or you can have it now for 7 easy payments of 149.99 plus a final charge at stage 9 of 229.99.

    • @hochspannunglebensgefahr5339
      @hochspannunglebensgefahr5339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well it looks like Wargaming actually interpreted the E100 as having the improved maus turret. Only the hull was completed leaving the E100 turret design a mystery. There are multiple other ideas like something similar to earlier prototypes from 1942, but wargaming used an existing turret. Some even suggest an ordinary Maus turret on the e100 hull.

    • @wyld_wolfwin
      @wyld_wolfwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Very burnt toast ok?

  • @infernalzen
    @infernalzen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    its a terrible loss, that the E100 was taken by the uk +then "disappeared"

  • @Galvars
    @Galvars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    This is getting out hand. Now there are two of them!

    • @simonsenaviev7541
      @simonsenaviev7541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You fool! This isn't even my final form!
      E-100

    • @johnd2058
      @johnd2058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8:00 75mm co-ax = standard-issue reality has left the building

  • @Windows95__
    @Windows95__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    this is the sequel everyone wanted

  • @Kalashnikov413
    @Kalashnikov413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I would like to see some unknown Italian tank project

    • @Windows95__
      @Windows95__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

    • @stesegreto656
      @stesegreto656 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only one I can think of is the c p40?

    • @Kalashnikov413
      @Kalashnikov413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@stesegreto656 P26/40 prototype (2 prototype, one was armed with 75/18 and the other one was armed with 75/32), P43, and P43 bis. As well as the Semovente M/L.6

    • @Kalashnikov413
      @Kalashnikov413 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And also the Breda 501 and AB 43 Armored Car

    • @Kalashnikov413
      @Kalashnikov413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And if you didn't know, the AB 43 was originally armed with the 47 mm gun. But because of Italy's switching side, the German decided to armed the Armored Car with the 20 mm Autocannon

  • @hunterwilliams284
    @hunterwilliams284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maus 2 the electric boogaloo

  • @johngalt6929
    @johngalt6929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Dude For Scale - LOL!

  • @Das_Red
    @Das_Red 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    maus : my turret is destroyed :(
    e100 : don’t worry,i give u mine :)))
    maus -> *MAUS II*

    • @Dth-str
      @Dth-str 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh , right. 😁

  • @togii2619
    @togii2619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never knew there was a second maus...and a Fucking love the maus

  • @igoryst3049
    @igoryst3049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0 unlikes and let's keep it that way :D

  • @generacionmarttin
    @generacionmarttin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don't tell me... there's a Maus III

    • @davidsatrapa9529
      @davidsatrapa9529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think there were some plans or something for Tiger III, but I am not sure if it's true

  • @mauriciomorais7818
    @mauriciomorais7818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Okay, but what about
    the *RATTE II* ?

  • @WadcaWymiaru
    @WadcaWymiaru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We need a bigger rodent trap!

  • @xXxTripleHxXx
    @xXxTripleHxXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you look at the turretshape of current gen MBTs like Challenger or Ariette the sloped turretfront seems to be an efficient way to design a turret

  • @Coelian
    @Coelian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maus pt.2 sounds pretty intriguing...

  • @christopherkroussoratsky2014
    @christopherkroussoratsky2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The caption at 2.28 is ridiculous, they are scraping the mud of the chassis after it had been freed from being bogged!

    • @TanksEncyclopediaYT
      @TanksEncyclopediaYT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that's a mistake on the part of the video editor.

  • @janusx66
    @janusx66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @ 2.39 min. A picture of the Maus, with the tekst; "The Maus recieving a fresh coat of paint", this is wrong, it got stuc in the mud as can clearly been seen on the picture in the film.

  • @KR4FTW3RK
    @KR4FTW3RK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great documentary. I love this channel!
    ...but I gotta ask: Why would anyone want to mount the 15cm or 17cm gun on that hull? It's already hillariously impractical as it is. Why make it worse?

  • @w0lfgm
    @w0lfgm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel sorry for the WoT players....

  • @matthewyang7893
    @matthewyang7893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:19 when the term mischief is appropriate for how much Germany suffered due to mustache man misconceptions about tank warfare

  • @mldonut5887
    @mldonut5887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kinda wish they finished it

  • @pilot_xoan
    @pilot_xoan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really cool vehicle!!!
    I love the Maus!!!

    • @jonowens460
      @jonowens460 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She was Good and Horribl😮😂❤❤❤❤

  • @tumate45
    @tumate45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So there were several hulls and a couple of turret, but Gaijin still said "No, it didn't existed, so not in the game."

    • @katyusha1283
      @katyusha1283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The reason is not that. The reason maus was removed is the balance issues.

    • @tumate45
      @tumate45 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katyusha1283
      I know, I know, but still. It was too badass to be remowed. But then again, why the E-100 is buyable?

    • @katyusha1283
      @katyusha1283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tumate45 Not everyone can get the E-100. But the maus was a tech tree tank. So you almost HAD to play it.

    • @tumate45
      @tumate45 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katyusha1283
      True
      Hmmmm, then wouldn't it be good for the Maus to be a marketplace tank or something?
      I know, people would get mad, but at least they could still get their hands on it

    • @katyusha1283
      @katyusha1283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tumate45 You can still research it in some events if you can research rank 5 german tanks.

  • @bacongod4967
    @bacongod4967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn’t know they had that many (unfinished) hulls and turrets

    • @jonowens460
      @jonowens460 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting 😮

  • @EarleALLEN
    @EarleALLEN ปีที่แล้ว

    look at that fuel tank ! 1 shot n emptyyyyy

  • @RedShocktrooperRST
    @RedShocktrooperRST 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maus 2: More like E-200

  • @adrianwarthunder1234
    @adrianwarthunder1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it e100 or maus tank yeah but its cursed e100 turret maus tank but it's cursed CURSED!!!!

    • @TypeKK
      @TypeKK 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's Maus 2, uses the Krupp Turret that is proposed to improve the Maus
      Your WoT/WoTB game screw up this facts

  • @CharcharoExplorer
    @CharcharoExplorer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!
    I shared it on r Tank Porn so I hope the peeps there see it.

  • @thecatwithatophat4069
    @thecatwithatophat4069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a bad video but please proofread your script writer's work before recording, it's very very very repetitive.

  • @artuditu5465
    @artuditu5465 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't know there were much more hulls and turrets for the maus! Great Video

  • @userjlj
    @userjlj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the only thing I got here was how large the maus is compared to the "dude" next to it..

  • @JMiskovsky
    @JMiskovsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is not fair comparison. But you could mount 130 mm gun in Leo2.

  • @britishneko3906
    @britishneko3906 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmm..... what if it goes faster? 45 km/h? or 60

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is another one???😱

  • @landoobal2794
    @landoobal2794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there a third

  • @traskclips5294
    @traskclips5294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    E muas 2 standard panzer

  • @oleriis-vestergaard6844
    @oleriis-vestergaard6844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative video - and for me that first heard of a surviving Maus in a book from George Forty in 182 - apparently he had seen it on a video from kubinka tank museum, there are many New pictures that i have never seen before

  • @sparse_array
    @sparse_array 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lots of repeated information. Some reworded, some identical phrases.

  • @jrlim4188
    @jrlim4188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s the E 100 turret

  • @jasonbrannock1698
    @jasonbrannock1698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What were they thinking??? The maus was a bad idea,though it's a cool idea.it would never work. J

    • @simonsenaviev7541
      @simonsenaviev7541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was not that bad, despite being as mobile as a legless turtle the armor as basically impossible to pen my the majority of allied guns, and the two cannons were both effective against the enemy, if the 160 Maus were finished, they would had some impact on the war, not much, but enough to change the allied strategy and maybe even force them to desgin new tanks

    • @jasonbrannock1698
      @jasonbrannock1698 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonsenaviev7541 I never thought of that. You make a good point. Thanks. J

    • @axeavier
      @axeavier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasonbrannock1698 as a rebuttle to what he stated, it was a bad idea. Regardless of how many guns it could not be penned by, it takes an extraordinary amount of people to get it going and build it at a time when they had too few people to build and operate let alone materials to make it. Let alone all the problems that would come with it breaking down and down time.
      It's also important to take into account how big the two fronts are and how few maus tanks could be made and how little land it could cover.
      So it was an absolutely bad idea. They were going to lose anyway but a panther would have been a better idea.

    • @jasonbrannock1698
      @jasonbrannock1698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@axeavier I agree with you. J

    • @BloodyCrow__
      @BloodyCrow__ ปีที่แล้ว

      A couple bombs from aircraft and the thing is kaput.

  • @milaneesie4495
    @milaneesie4495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The turret in the thumbnail is from the e 100

  • @Wolfen443
    @Wolfen443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another Maus?, NATO needs to begin production of them again to liberate Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. Modern versions obviously, but as a mobile heavy artillery platform it could be useful still.

  • @The_Alt_Vault
    @The_Alt_Vault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im sorry im a little confused so this us just the E 100

    • @justarandomguy37
      @justarandomguy37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just the maus with a redesigned turret

    • @TanksEncyclopediaYT
      @TanksEncyclopediaYT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The E100 is a different tank. The E100 has a very similar turret to the Maus 2 (just some differing armor values and weight), but a completely different hull.

    • @tacomas9602
      @tacomas9602 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TanksEncyclopediaYT the E-100 reminds me of a really heavy Tiger II hull.

  • @marveljosefpetrusledo8801
    @marveljosefpetrusledo8801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it a Maus with an E 100 turret?

    • @TanksEncyclopediaYT
      @TanksEncyclopediaYT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Other way around. This turret was originally designed as an improvement to the Maus and then also chucked (in a lightened version) on the E100

  • @chudthug
    @chudthug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    App when