5:30 He said something like "I dont know, Catherine" as official sources say some koreans heard "That voice... Catherine?", but for me both variants fit very well for the character Also, ticking on 2:02 references the main character, Dante.
@@JannetFenix Nope, that would be too long. The word he uses before Catherine is 4 syllables long. When he says "Catherine didn't love me," the phrase can take up to 7 syllables not including Catherine, depending on how it is said. The phrase also comes after Catherine, not before like in the song
@roowdy6721 consider he speaks Korean tho.... the line is pulled directly from one of his dialogues. It's either him brooding over her not loving him, or the guilt over killing her.
I feel as if the ticking is Dante trying to get through to Heathcliff. I just started playing so I am only just past the tutorial but it was this theme that made me want to play the game.
Probably unpopular opinion but studioEIM makes better music than Mili. Honestly would even say that Tilarids core suppression themes back in lob corp were better. Wish they'd bring back some of those tbh, would be nice hearing like yesods core suppression theme in walpurgis or something.
I'd also love to see that but.. y'know. What miyazaki said lol I haven't written off the idea entirely, but I'd definitely need more time than I have now. Maybe if TH-cam becomes my main job at some point I'll start streaming some playthrough attempts on some of these 🤔
@@CatharsisYT well, in the end, whatever you end up doing down the road, I hope you enjoy doing it. Wether it be full-time music composition or YouTubing. For the time being, your reactions and analyses are very fun to watch~ Edit: Anyways, LIMBUS COMPANYYYYYYYYY
@@otherevan296 i doubt I'd go the composition route tbh. If lightning strikes I might release something, but in my 28 years that's only happened once....and that was in 2013 with a music box melody. 😂 You'll probably be getting analysis content out of me for a good long while with the occasional full band or drum cover.... speaking of which 👀
Distortion: the phenomenon that occurs when the human mind is pushed to a breaking point, and is given the choice of self-denial-- to deny your truest feelings and emotions, and self-acceptance-- to collapse inwards, and accept your basest instinct and desires. To deny yourself is to awaken your EGO; a manifestation of your resolve. To accept yourself is to Distort; to take on "the truest form of yourself" and lash out at the world around you. But the decision is never fair-- always, a voice whispers in your ear, speaking to those at their breaking point, and through honeyed words and reinforcement of their most negative of thoughts, pushes them towards distortion. Those who confront and overcome the doubts seeded by this voice remain themselves, harnessing the power of their psyche as a physically manifested weapon. Those who fail lose all they have and fall into an abyss few return from, their identity as a human lost. This is the song that plays when one such character is pushed to that crossroads, and falls into themselves, Distorting into a rampaging beast filled with nothing but hatred, sorrow, and a desire to raze all to the ground, blaming all but themselves for the event that lead them to this point, yet also despising themelves so very much.
Distortion and EGO are both about accepting yourself. The difference is: will you strife to fulfill your ambition on your own or give in and accept "a helping hand", refusing to engage with the world and leaving a monster to deal with your problems. Essentially: do you wield your EGO of does it wield you?
Distortion is where you accept your truest desires and wish to cry it out to the entire world Ego is when you accept your desires but also acknowledge the world and yourself as it is, forging onwards despite it all
EGO explanation for the 130 th time... God since ruina Ego has been explain so manny times Philip/Xiao plot line Hell's kitchen plot line Kim's plot line Dong rang plot line Ensamle plot line Heatcliff plot line rn Not to mention Even philclair uptie dialog And even still we left behind concepts as: well of humanity, Cogito forced Egos... Btw E.G.O reffers to Extermination of Geometrical Organism
Jesus christ ive seen so many bad explanation of EGO it actually hurts. EGO in pmoon is based on Jungian psych. In jungian psych, there is the ID, which is the desires/impulses of someone, the "self" if you will. SUPEREGO is society/internalized social norms, its the "collective consciousness". Meanwhile, EGO is the way someone expresses their ID *without* disregarding the SUPEREGO. A filter for the ID, if you will. Its a way to regulate/manage your ID. For example, some of our impulses and desires may be bad, and we ourselves may know that its bad, but we cant help but want it (because its our ID), trough the EGO, we can express those desires in a way that isnt just horrible. Excuse the example, but this is the only one i can think of right now; r*pe fetishes. Some people may have that desire in their ID that if its not regulated/controlled, would lead to horrible things. Trough the EGO, then, that person may regulate that desire, maybe by communicating it with their sexual partner, so that they would be able to satisfy that desire trough consentual plays without harming anyone. If you completely disregard the ID, then the EGO cannot exist, because there is nothing to express. On the other hand, if you disregard the SUPEREGO, then the EGO has no reason to exist/disappears into the ID, because in that case, there would be no need to "regulate/control" the ID, any expression of the self is no longer an expression of EGO, its just the ID running wild, and this can lead to horrible things. EGO in pmoon works the same way. People who deny temselves, deny their own ID, and simply conforms to the SUPEREGO, they doesnt distort, and they do not manifest EGO, they just continue to exist, being the cog in the machine of the city. Or in the extreme case, when the ID is completely purged, they become a "dough" as the ring would call it, as seen with linton, ready to be filled with a new ID. "If the world wont accept me, then i'll change, become someone who im not". If someone denies the SUPEREGO, and instead gives into their ID, they distort, letting their own desires consume them. They have no regard for the world/society. "If the world wont accept me, then ill destroy the world". To manifest EGO, someone needs to accept themselves, accept their own ID, but not let it run rampant. They need to rein it in, control and regulate it, and express it in a thoughtful way. "If the world wont accept me, then ill change society so that it will accept me and people like me". This is also expressed trough limbus gameplay, where in order to use EGO, you need to first generate resources from the sinners ID. Without the proper ID fueling them, the EGO cannot be used. Dante, then, as the manager, serves as the SUPEREGO of the team, pulling the strings behind the scenes, pooling all the sin resources so that ID's that doesnt fuel a certain EGO can still use that EGO using resources generated by other IDs. Dante as the SUPEREGO of the team is also capable of forcing an EGO to corrode without it attacking team members, because its still regulated by the SUPEREGO. Meanwhile, if an EGO corrodes on its own, it is similiar to a distortion, the sinner refuses dante's control, denying the SUPEREGO, and thus expresses themselves in a destructive way.
The embodiment of pain, sorrow, despair, that collapse all on themselves. All the emotions bottled inside, to stay a functional person.. and giving up on trying to keep them in check. What's the point anymore? What's the worth? He's so tired, hurt and tired of fighting back and struggling. Distorting occurs when a character gets to point where it's easier for them to stop fighting and let the emotions consume them - the currently dominating emotions completely taking over reason and controlling the mind. Why fight, if fighting them is neverending, and so, so painfully exhausting? In this song, the beast is howling. Noone once heard its cries, noone once came to comfort it. It's hatred, aiming inwards and outwards, it's sorrow, craving that will never be sated, aimless anger, and pain of injustice, all imploding on themselves. The beast is wailing. In its mind, the sad, echoing words, spiralling the vortex of pain over and over again; a name so precious and understanding, that one thing it always craved, it never could have, not in a million years. . . Or... could he?
Yeah you're right, this is a boss theme. Alongside the Mili song (obviously) is one of my favourite tracks of this chapter. if you have time I would ask you to check "Endless Sorrow" too, is a story background theme but imo is one of the best.
The ticking is actually directly referenced later in the story. Heathcliff is dragged back to his breaking point, and hears Dante's ticking. He takes it as a sign that time keeps passing and all he can do is wait, despite feeling like his world is crumbling around him. So, he stays and hears the end of Catherine's statement, affirming she did love him still.
a lot of the bgm in their games are great they do use music very strongly with the timings, its really effective and I haven't even read all that the game has so far smell ya later 👍
You should definitely try listening to Dongbaek's battle theme as well! It's also fully instrumental and, in my opinion, the most beautiful project moon song they made
in limbus company, the player is someone named Dante, who is a clock. the ticking in this fight is supposedly a reference to how Dante is attempting to talk to Heathcliff, even though Heathcliff has distorted. This is also true for Heathcliff's "Pass On" song where we can hear a clock ticking
2:17 is Korean. It translates to “We killed Catherine….. we don’t deserve to live…..” At this point of the story, Heathcliff (the dog in the video at that point of the story) heard the perspective and story of the Heathcliff from a world fully accurate to the book Wuthering Heights, where his guilt over Cathy’s death due to him leaving caused him to start going to other worlds to kill every, single, Heathcliff so Cathy won’t suffer due to them, at least to them. After this, our Heathcliff Distorted, a phenomenon where someone goes so far into despair that someone called Carmen talks to them and tempts them to become a monster. And our Heathcliff’s reason for Distorting was due to his despair and depression at Cathy’s death, which he believes it’s his fault, because to him at that point he believes he is less then human, a monsterous beast that is more muddy and worthless dirty rag that has no rights and doesn’t deserve to speak. That beast will tear all of the world apart, shove it into its sack, drag it to the deepest corner of the Inferno and slaughter it until all is destroyed. And the ticking throughout the song is Dante trying to talk to Heathcliff to bring him back and save him from himself.
It doesn't translate to that. While the muttering is hard to translate exactly, it's definitely not that. It's too short to be that. I personally hear "모르겠어, 캐서린" (I don't know, Catherine)
That title is a bit spoilery, because its for a very importent story moment/boss battle. But if you dont mind spoilers for an explanation: This beast in the picture is indeed the boss, the 4th boss in a row actually. Basicly: Heathcliff is one of your main characters and you join him on his return to wuthering heights until something starts tempting him to "distort" into a "wild infernal hound" and now his co-workers/friends have to beat some sense into him to bring him back to normal. Still doesnt make the trauma any better ...
As we're getting more non-mili bgms from Project Moon, can we please get Library of Ruina librarian themes soon (as he's done with LoR mili songs as well)? It will be a hella ride to react for, all of them are bangers
I have all that defaulted. I didn't even know it wasn't there or how it's not. Weird. Also i had to stop listing keywords. Apparently it's against ToS to do so and I don't want to risk channel strikes for that. Now i pull credits from sources to make up for it. I didn't want to not have credits at least, and honestly i prefer that format over just listing a bunch of words 😂
The part I like is that constant ticking tick tock sounds keep being interrupted by growling since that clock sounds is the main character Dante trying to talk to him and it didn't reach and silenced by growling
Should censor the title, that's a major spoiler if anybody happens to get this recommended without having done canto 6. (canto 6 boss 4 should suffice)
In my defense it's the name of the song and i literally couldn't rephrase it to anything else without it being the same problem 🫠 "Heathcliff Battle BGM" has the same problem and leaving out the battle part makes it sound like a different character theme. Kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place there
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I keep hearing a voice in my head...... it keeps saying peak cinema
peak cinema
PEAK CINEMA
even carmen appreciates this art
Peak Cinema
@@deep_sea_creature99999 of course she does, she is the one who draws all this after all
5:30 He said something like "I dont know, Catherine" as official sources say
some koreans heard "That voice... Catherine?", but for me both variants fit very well for the character
Also, ticking on 2:02 references the main character, Dante.
I think the words he speaks are the words that were what broke him, in the end. Was not that it says "Catherine.. didn't love me"?
@@JannetFenix hmm, didn't hear about that. but considering how intense song goes after these words...
@@JannetFenix Nope, that would be too long. The word he uses before Catherine is 4 syllables long. When he says "Catherine didn't love me," the phrase can take up to 7 syllables not including Catherine, depending on how it is said. The phrase also comes after Catherine, not before like in the song
@roowdy6721 consider he speaks Korean tho.... the line is pulled directly from one of his dialogues. It's either him brooding over her not loving him, or the guilt over killing her.
@@JannetFenix I know, I speak Korean, too. That's how I can tell the minimum required syllables
I feel as if the ticking is Dante trying to get through to Heathcliff.
I just started playing so I am only just past the tutorial but it was this theme that made me want to play the game.
I´d like to see ga1ahad and scientific witchery
destroyman III stop smoking the WEED
Probably unpopular opinion but studioEIM makes better music than Mili. Honestly would even say that Tilarids core suppression themes back in lob corp were better. Wish they'd bring back some of those tbh, would be nice hearing like yesods core suppression theme in walpurgis or something.
I'd agree these guys seem to make better music. Mili makes better THEMES though. Like character specific stories
Id totally watch a catharsis playthrough of limbus
He's already told that he's not feeling playing anything
@@Quatroleg still, would be cool to see, even if it wont happen
I'd also love to see that but.. y'know. What miyazaki said lol
I haven't written off the idea entirely, but I'd definitely need more time than I have now. Maybe if TH-cam becomes my main job at some point I'll start streaming some playthrough attempts on some of these 🤔
@@CatharsisYT well, in the end, whatever you end up doing down the road, I hope you enjoy doing it. Wether it be full-time music composition or YouTubing. For the time being, your reactions and analyses are very fun to watch~
Edit: Anyways, LIMBUS COMPANYYYYYYYYY
@@otherevan296 i doubt I'd go the composition route tbh. If lightning strikes I might release something, but in my 28 years that's only happened once....and that was in 2013 with a music box melody. 😂
You'll probably be getting analysis content out of me for a good long while with the occasional full band or drum cover.... speaking of which 👀
Distortion: the phenomenon that occurs when the human mind is pushed to a breaking point, and is given the choice of self-denial-- to deny your truest feelings and emotions, and self-acceptance-- to collapse inwards, and accept your basest instinct and desires.
To deny yourself is to awaken your EGO; a manifestation of your resolve.
To accept yourself is to Distort; to take on "the truest form of yourself" and lash out at the world around you.
But the decision is never fair-- always, a voice whispers in your ear, speaking to those at their breaking point, and through honeyed words and reinforcement of their most negative of thoughts, pushes them towards distortion.
Those who confront and overcome the doubts seeded by this voice remain themselves, harnessing the power of their psyche as a physically manifested weapon. Those who fail lose all they have and fall into an abyss few return from, their identity as a human lost.
This is the song that plays when one such character is pushed to that crossroads, and falls into themselves, Distorting into a rampaging beast filled with nothing but hatred, sorrow, and a desire to raze all to the ground, blaming all but themselves for the event that lead them to this point, yet also despising themelves so very much.
I think accepting yourself and reality how it is it's manifesting ego and refusing to accept reality and accepting help of the voice is distorting
Distortion and EGO are both about accepting yourself. The difference is: will you strife to fulfill your ambition on your own or give in and accept "a helping hand", refusing to engage with the world and leaving a monster to deal with your problems. Essentially: do you wield your EGO of does it wield you?
Distortion is where you accept your truest desires and wish to cry it out to the entire world
Ego is when you accept your desires but also acknowledge the world and yourself as it is, forging onwards despite it all
EGO explanation for the 130 th time...
God since ruina Ego has been explain so manny times
Philip/Xiao plot line
Hell's kitchen plot line
Kim's plot line
Dong rang plot line
Ensamle plot line
Heatcliff plot line rn
Not to mention
Even philclair uptie dialog
And even still we left behind concepts as: well of humanity, Cogito forced Egos...
Btw E.G.O reffers to
Extermination of Geometrical Organism
Jesus christ ive seen so many bad explanation of EGO it actually hurts.
EGO in pmoon is based on Jungian psych. In jungian psych, there is the ID, which is the desires/impulses of someone, the "self" if you will. SUPEREGO is society/internalized social norms, its the "collective consciousness".
Meanwhile, EGO is the way someone expresses their ID *without* disregarding the SUPEREGO. A filter for the ID, if you will. Its a way to regulate/manage your ID. For example, some of our impulses and desires may be bad, and we ourselves may know that its bad, but we cant help but want it (because its our ID), trough the EGO, we can express those desires in a way that isnt just horrible. Excuse the example, but this is the only one i can think of right now; r*pe fetishes. Some people may have that desire in their ID that if its not regulated/controlled, would lead to horrible things. Trough the EGO, then, that person may regulate that desire, maybe by communicating it with their sexual partner, so that they would be able to satisfy that desire trough consentual plays without harming anyone.
If you completely disregard the ID, then the EGO cannot exist, because there is nothing to express.
On the other hand, if you disregard the SUPEREGO, then the EGO has no reason to exist/disappears into the ID, because in that case, there would be no need to "regulate/control" the ID, any expression of the self is no longer an expression of EGO, its just the ID running wild, and this can lead to horrible things.
EGO in pmoon works the same way. People who deny temselves, deny their own ID, and simply conforms to the SUPEREGO, they doesnt distort, and they do not manifest EGO, they just continue to exist, being the cog in the machine of the city. Or in the extreme case, when the ID is completely purged, they become a "dough" as the ring would call it, as seen with linton, ready to be filled with a new ID. "If the world wont accept me, then i'll change, become someone who im not".
If someone denies the SUPEREGO, and instead gives into their ID, they distort, letting their own desires consume them. They have no regard for the world/society. "If the world wont accept me, then ill destroy the world".
To manifest EGO, someone needs to accept themselves, accept their own ID, but not let it run rampant. They need to rein it in, control and regulate it, and express it in a thoughtful way. "If the world wont accept me, then ill change society so that it will accept me and people like me".
This is also expressed trough limbus gameplay, where in order to use EGO, you need to first generate resources from the sinners ID. Without the proper ID fueling them, the EGO cannot be used. Dante, then, as the manager, serves as the SUPEREGO of the team, pulling the strings behind the scenes, pooling all the sin resources so that ID's that doesnt fuel a certain EGO can still use that EGO using resources generated by other IDs. Dante as the SUPEREGO of the team is also capable of forcing an EGO to corrode without it attacking team members, because its still regulated by the SUPEREGO. Meanwhile, if an EGO corrodes on its own, it is similiar to a distortion, the sinner refuses dante's control, denying the SUPEREGO, and thus expresses themselves in a destructive way.
Didn't expect him to react to non-Mili limbus songs, Wake up sleeper agents!
The embodiment of pain, sorrow, despair, that collapse all on themselves. All the emotions bottled inside, to stay a functional person.. and giving up on trying to keep them in check. What's the point anymore? What's the worth? He's so tired, hurt and tired of fighting back and struggling.
Distorting occurs when a character gets to point where it's easier for them to stop fighting and let the emotions consume them - the currently dominating emotions completely taking over reason and controlling the mind. Why fight, if fighting them is neverending, and so, so painfully exhausting?
In this song, the beast is howling. Noone once heard its cries, noone once came to comfort it. It's hatred, aiming inwards and outwards, it's sorrow, craving that will never be sated, aimless anger, and pain of injustice, all imploding on themselves.
The beast is wailing. In its mind, the sad, echoing words, spiralling the vortex of pain over and over again; a name so precious and understanding, that one thing it always craved, it never could have, not in a million years.
.
.
Or... could he?
this fight was really hype, and the fact that i somehow predicted it way before Canto 6 released is crazy
P.E.A.K (Perfectly Executed And Kino)
Yeah you're right, this is a boss theme. Alongside the Mili song (obviously) is one of my favourite tracks of this chapter.
if you have time I would ask you to check "Endless Sorrow" too, is a story background theme but imo is one of the best.
The ticking is actually directly referenced later in the story. Heathcliff is dragged back to his breaking point, and hears Dante's ticking. He takes it as a sign that time keeps passing and all he can do is wait, despite feeling like his world is crumbling around him.
So, he stays and hears the end of Catherine's statement, affirming she did love him still.
a lot of the bgm in their games are great
they do use music very strongly with the timings, its really effective and I haven't even read all that the game has so far
smell ya later 👍
Yeah he reacting the same way he reacted to Tenebre Rosso Sangue, PMoon is COOKING
You should definitely try listening to Dongbaek's battle theme as well! It's also fully instrumental and, in my opinion, the most beautiful project moon song they made
in limbus company, the player is someone named Dante, who is a clock. the ticking in this fight is supposedly a reference to how Dante is attempting to talk to Heathcliff, even though Heathcliff has distorted. This is also true for Heathcliff's "Pass On" song where we can hear a clock ticking
2:17 is Korean. It translates to “We killed Catherine….. we don’t deserve to live…..”
At this point of the story, Heathcliff (the dog in the video at that point of the story) heard the perspective and story of the Heathcliff from a world fully accurate to the book Wuthering Heights, where his guilt over Cathy’s death due to him leaving caused him to start going to other worlds to kill every, single, Heathcliff so Cathy won’t suffer due to them, at least to them. After this, our Heathcliff Distorted, a phenomenon where someone goes so far into despair that someone called Carmen talks to them and tempts them to become a monster.
And our Heathcliff’s reason for Distorting was due to his despair and depression at Cathy’s death, which he believes it’s his fault, because to him at that point he believes he is less then human, a monsterous beast that is more muddy and worthless dirty rag that has no rights and doesn’t deserve to speak. That beast will tear all of the world apart, shove it into its sack, drag it to the deepest corner of the Inferno and slaughter it until all is destroyed.
And the ticking throughout the song is Dante trying to talk to Heathcliff to bring him back and save him from himself.
It doesn't translate to that. While the muttering is hard to translate exactly, it's definitely not that. It's too short to be that. I personally hear "모르겠어, 캐서린" (I don't know, Catherine)
That title is a bit spoilery, because its for a very importent story moment/boss battle.
But if you dont mind spoilers for an explanation:
This beast in the picture is indeed the boss, the 4th boss in a row actually.
Basicly: Heathcliff is one of your main characters and you join him on his return to wuthering heights until something starts tempting him to "distort" into a "wild infernal hound"
and now his co-workers/friends have to beat some sense into him to bring him back to normal. Still doesnt make the trauma any better ...
you might want to listen to Theme F (canto VI) it's only used for one stage and that's a damn shame
You need to react to more tracks from this chapter and past chapters too. LIMBUS COMPANY IS FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH BANGERS
I'd love to see you actually play some of the games you've been reacted too, it would be cool for you to see how the songs play's out ingame
This man needs to play Limbus Company.
As we're getting more non-mili bgms from Project Moon, can we please get Library of Ruina librarian themes soon (as he's done with LoR mili songs as well)? It will be a hella ride to react for, all of them are bangers
Hell yeah, this is what I waited for
Catharsis, I think you forgot to add a description to this video. Don't forget to add a link to the original and the list of keywords.
I have all that defaulted. I didn't even know it wasn't there or how it's not. Weird.
Also i had to stop listing keywords. Apparently it's against ToS to do so and I don't want to risk channel strikes for that. Now i pull credits from sources to make up for it. I didn't want to not have credits at least, and honestly i prefer that format over just listing a bunch of words 😂
Please listen to Dongbaek's theme
Damn I'm so early I have no clue what to say.
Amazing OST, I remember just pausing the fight to listen to the ost.
Peak.
The part I like is that constant ticking tick tock sounds keep being interrupted by growling since that clock sounds is the main character Dante trying to talk to him and it didn't reach and silenced by growling
pleaase listen to sustain++; its my favorite mili song!! lyrically and otherwise its an absolute masterpiece to me i think you'd love it!
There is no phases, this song plays in full from the start.
Distortion mention
Peak
YOHOHOHOHOO
also alternate title is "VS The Heartbroken"
Should censor the title, that's a major spoiler if anybody happens to get this recommended without having done canto 6. (canto 6 boss 4 should suffice)
I mean it's been weeks since Canto VI finished
In my defense it's the name of the song and i literally couldn't rephrase it to anything else without it being the same problem 🫠 "Heathcliff Battle BGM" has the same problem and leaving out the battle part makes it sound like a different character theme. Kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place there
@@Radiance_Buer I would consider the most recent story update to be spoilers in every circumstance.
@@Llamanator_ then wouldn't it technically be okay anyway since the Third Walpurgisnacht is the most recent node in the story
@@Radiance_Buer I'm referring to the main story if it somehow wasn't obvious, not the detour tales/mini chapters.