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I'm sorry I love the F-5 series of air craft, but the announcer was so hyper and technically wrong on so many levels it was impossible to listen to him ramble on. >_< So I watch it with the sound muted. O_o
Some one please inform the Airshow announcer that the four Marine Aircraft are F-5N Tiger-II, and not the earlier version F-5A freedom Fighters. also the Skoshi-Tigers were a specially modified F-5C variant model used in Vietnam by the Air-Force who then turned them over too the South Vietnamese Air-Force.
LOVE watching F-5E's in flight. Was a Crewchief with the USAF 65th Aggressor Sq., 57th FWW, Nellis AFB back in the mid 80's, and spent many hours maintaining those little sleek planes. Glad to see they still have a home in the USMC.
That's so cool that you got to work with aggressors! I'm thinking of becoming a mechanic for one of those private contractors that offer aggressor services, are civilians allowed in?
@@Tigershark_3082 I couldn't say, not sure how that works with civilian contractors, but I'm sure there is information out there somewhere. We didn't use them much in the 80's but these days maybe it's different.
@@600lbsilverback7 My roommate at the time was a crew chief in the 64th, Ivey Leonard, and I knew a handful of other guys, since we were all in the same barracks
Great video, but, the announcer got four things wrong during this demo: #1 - The Official Name of the F-5E is Tiger-II, not Freedom Fighter, which is the name for the F-5A, and B models, only. #2- Skoshi Tiger is the USAF Codename for the F-5's Combat Evalutation, and it's associated with the C, and D models, only, and not the improved E, and F models. #3- The lead chopper is the "Yankee" Huey, and it's not the Cobra. And, finally, #4- The second chopper is, in fact, the Cobra, specifically it's the "Zulu" Cobra. I'm just so fed up with airshow announcers, who get all of their info, wrong.
Yeah, he's not that great of an announcer I always thought. You're still a little off regarding the Cobra though. The AH-1Z's official name is actually "Viper"; the Cobra name has no official standing for that variant at all. It is of course still commonly referred to as Cobra unofficially. The same goes for the UH-1Y; the name Huey has no official status for ANY H-1 variant. The closest is the UH-1N Twin Huey that the UH-1Y replaced. The UH-1Y's official name is "Venom".
Glad to see someone else on the ball. This is typically what happens when an over eager person assumes something without hard facts. The demonstration team should have had one of their people act as a color/technical advisor to make any corrections before, or during to keep everyone straight.
Señores: creo que en 2019 en los Estados Unidos se debería haber selebrado los 60 años de la familia T-38 / F-5 . Hubiera sido el mejor homenaje a tan importantes aviones , para la historia de la aviación militar. El T-38 el Cohete Blanco fue y todavía es el entrenador avanzado supersónico que formó tatas generaciones de pilotos de caza . El F-5 A , B , y la versión E un excelente caza usado con éxito en los países miembros de la O.T.A.N y también en muchos países más por todo occidente y aún en servicio . En el vídeo se ven los asignados al la práctica del combate disímil . Considero que de todas formas estos destacados cazas ya se han ganado un lugar muy importante en la historia de la aviación . Saludos cordiales de Uruguay 🇺🇾.
I love these planes. When I was a kid, I remember seeing the F-5 Aggressors coming to Kadena AFB during the '80s for training exercises. I love the Russian colors on them. Look cool. BTW, these are F-5E Tiger II not Freedom Fighters. F-5A's were the Freedom Fighters.
@@AirshowStuffVideos Yes, when it happens, it's very annoying and distracting. You're also not enjoying the air show and ruins it all. But it's not the speakers fault or something. It's just that deaf guy, behind the mixer. Lower master volume. That's all...
@@Yiannis2112 Honestly I assumed your comment about the speakers was sarcastic lol we get so much crap when we post anything with music or narration even though we do our best to avoid it. That deaf bastard follows us everywhere we go!
@@AirshowStuffVideos No, not sarcastic at all, mate! I hope next time he's not there. Deaf sound guy! Oxymoron and contradictory...Like a blind sniper or a pilot who goes to sleep, with a 2g pull! LOL!
F 5 E , que bonito avión , símbolo de una época . Su diseño netamente aerodinámico ya tiene sesenta años , adelanto y excelente. El caza de la libertad , su finalidad están en que fue suministrado a la OTAN y muchos otros países. De este avión surge el T-38 entrenador avanzado en servicio por muchos años en la USAF. También el F -5 E lll en servicio actual . Un excelente video hace justicia a un excelente avión !!!
0:33 Those are not Freedom Fighters, Those are Tiger II. The Freedom Fighter is an F-5A/B. The Iiger II are F-5E/F. The Skoshi Tigers were indeed the F-5A Freedpm Fighters that were used in the Vietnam War. The ones in the video started to be delivered in 1972, after the Vietnam War. The F-5E Tiger II is an evolucion of the Freedom Fighter, looks similar, but there are important differences in size, engines, air intakes, thrust to weight ratio, "RADAR", etc. The Tiger II was a much better arcraft.
I’m pretty sure an F-5 would absolutely wreck both choppers at one time. That high, the choppers would catch a missile, but any lower they’d get boomed and zoomed by the 2 20mm cannons. I mean its exactly what MiG-17s did in Vietnam. Come by at 500-550 kts, cannons blazing and then go straight vertical and come by again. This would be extenuated by the F-5s ability to go supersonic. I mean they’d be booming and really zooming
Actually the USAF and the US Army did a war game series called J-CATCH in the late 70's, Army Helo's vs Air Force jets. The Air Force got trounced 5 - 1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-CATCH th-cam.com/video/Ie0CwP_EgM0/w-d-xo.html
@@dragsys well of course they did, it was an exercise designed to test tactics for helicopters, so I'm sure the jets were told exactly how to attack to see what would happen. No way they told an F-15 pilot to "go kill the chopper, any way you choose". This sounds a lot like the F-22 getting bested by the Rafale in training while leaving out the detail that the Rafale was allowed to start on the Raptors six and already in visual range. An F-15 coming in at just below the speed of sound armed with literally any air to air missile it can carry (Sidewinder, Sparrow, AMRAAM, etc.) with those avionics, the whirlybird has a snowball's chance in hell of even knowing which direction it came from. Wouldn't have time, looking for a way out of a burning brick.
@@blakebaker830 phase II J-CATCH and the jet pilots were told in the debriefings they were ALL killed in the mock combat ... thats how uneven it was ... the majority of simulated F-15 kills are MARINES heli pilots. . :)
@@sotabaka okay, but if you read through the rules of engagement on J CATCH, the fixed wing aircraft were not allowed to use any BVR weaponry. Guns and short range missiles only. Hardly an accurate representation of a true encounter. An AMRAAM from 5+ miles is much more likely.
@@dragsys yeah, and the fixed wing aircraft were restricted from using BVR weaponry. Guns and short range missile shots only, hardly and accurate representation given the capabilities of modern target ID and highly manuverable and intelligent missiles. A helos ass is grass.
Quick question from someone who isn't an expert: The helos don't have radar if I understood the announcer right. Wouldn't the jets just shoot them down from a distance ?
Rumor has it that awhile back the powers that be did a very extensive test of planes vs helicopters in different scenarios and so forth. From what I understand the fighters did so poorly against properly equipped helicopters with air-to-air capabilities they never publicly released the information.
Any other flight simmers watching this? Perhaps my other channel DojoFS could try aerodynamic braking, who needs a braking parachute, reverse thrust, air brakes or damaging their wheel brakes?
Correct Locutus494 these jets and naval aviators are part of the U.S. Navy's Naval Weapons School, Top Gun for those who watch to much Tom Cruise. They're Marine pilots who fly as the aggressor squadron in dissimilar air combat engagement with fleet fighter personnel selected to attend the school. Damn Mav its a MIG-28! Going in for a photo Op Goose, got to keep up relations and all.
@@ditzydoo4378 No, they're not part of the Naval Weapons School (I think you mean the Naval Aviation Warfighting Development Center). The jets in this video are from VMFT-401 at MCAS Yuma. They are a reserve squadron in MAG-41, 4th MAW, Marine Forces Reserve.
Sorry didnt mean ruffle your Marine feathers, I simply dont have the info. Didnt realize F-5's were still in use. Thanks for your info, and by the looks of your profile pic, thanks for your service as well.
Everybody talking about Oh tHe ChOpPeRs wOuLd WrEcK tHe ChOpPeRs, remember a helicopter shot down an airplane with an AK47 and the chopper pilots are marines, so who knows
If you have to look down at the cheat sheet to remember what year Pearl was hit by the IJN I'd say you're not airshow material.. I had to watch again to see if I was being a jerk but I stand by 11 month old comment... And looks like 9 people agree with me. But yeah, I'll refrain next time. To be 'nice' 😜
Marine Corps propaganda is so obnoxious. Just let me enjoy the aircraft without hearing about how "every single weapon platform we use in the Marines we fight to the teeth with to kill the enemy"... like the other services don't? Jesus.
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I'm sorry I love the F-5 series of air craft, but the announcer was so hyper and technically wrong on so many levels it was impossible to listen to him ramble on. >_< So I watch it with the sound muted. O_o
Some one please inform the Airshow announcer that the four Marine Aircraft are F-5N Tiger-II, and not the earlier version F-5A freedom Fighters. also the Skoshi-Tigers were a specially modified F-5C variant model used in Vietnam by the Air-Force who then turned them over too the South Vietnamese Air-Force.
Thank You Both!
This guy should have been announcing a community bake sale - SOMEPLACE ELSE!
Cheers!
I was an F-16 engine mechanic, loved the Falcon but my heart will always be with the F-5.
LOVE watching F-5E's in flight. Was a Crewchief with the USAF 65th Aggressor Sq., 57th FWW, Nellis AFB back in the mid 80's, and spent many hours maintaining those little sleek planes. Glad to see they still have a home in the USMC.
That's so cool that you got to work with aggressors! I'm thinking of becoming a mechanic for one of those private contractors that offer aggressor services, are civilians allowed in?
@@Tigershark_3082 I couldn't say, not sure how that works with civilian contractors, but I'm sure there is information out there somewhere. We didn't use them much in the 80's but these days maybe it's different.
Did you know anyone in the 64th?
@@600lbsilverback7 My roommate at the time was a crew chief in the 64th, Ivey Leonard, and I knew a handful of other guys, since we were all in the same barracks
@@charleshale1101 hi Charles, hope you're doing well. I was in the 64th before they retired the f5.
I know there’s plenty of Awesome looking fighters out there, but for some reason F5 has always been my Favorite! Great Video!
Very nimble little planes.
It's design directly influenced the design of the YF-17, in turn the F/A-18.
Dominic Sanchez That’s interesting, I guess i can see some F5 dna in the F18. Thx!
Totally agree. It looks nimble and aggressive.
Great video, but, the announcer got four things wrong during this demo: #1 - The Official Name of the F-5E is Tiger-II, not Freedom Fighter, which is the name for the F-5A, and B models, only. #2- Skoshi Tiger is the USAF Codename for the F-5's Combat Evalutation, and it's associated with the C, and D models, only, and not the improved E, and F models. #3- The lead chopper is the "Yankee" Huey, and it's not the Cobra. And, finally, #4- The second chopper is, in fact, the Cobra, specifically it's the "Zulu" Cobra. I'm just so fed up with airshow announcers, who get all of their info, wrong.
John Osbourn Noticed that too, good points.
Yeah, he's not that great of an announcer I always thought. You're still a little off regarding the Cobra though. The AH-1Z's official name is actually "Viper"; the Cobra name has no official standing for that variant at all. It is of course still commonly referred to as Cobra unofficially. The same goes for the UH-1Y; the name Huey has no official status for ANY H-1 variant. The closest is the UH-1N Twin Huey that the UH-1Y replaced. The UH-1Y's official name is "Venom".
Glad to see someone else on the ball. This is typically what happens when an over eager person assumes something without hard facts. The demonstration team should have had one of their people act as a color/technical advisor to make any corrections before, or during to keep everyone straight.
Señores: creo que en 2019 en los Estados Unidos se debería haber selebrado los 60 años de la familia T-38 / F-5 . Hubiera sido el mejor homenaje a tan importantes aviones , para la historia de la aviación militar. El T-38 el Cohete Blanco fue y todavía es el entrenador avanzado supersónico que formó tatas generaciones de pilotos de caza . El F-5 A , B , y la versión E un excelente caza usado con éxito en los países miembros de la O.T.A.N y también en muchos países más por todo occidente y aún en servicio . En el vídeo se ven los asignados al la práctica del combate disímil . Considero que de todas formas estos destacados cazas ya se han ganado un lugar muy importante en la historia de la aviación . Saludos cordiales de Uruguay 🇺🇾.
John Osbourn did say the true, great commentary.
These are F-5E Tiger II, the Freedom Fighter was the F-5A, though they are pretty similar in shape.
Yeah, and the helos AH-1Z Viper and UH-1Y Venom
I love these planes. When I was a kid, I remember seeing the F-5 Aggressors coming to Kadena AFB during the '80s for training exercises. I love the Russian colors on them. Look cool. BTW, these are F-5E Tiger II not Freedom Fighters. F-5A's were the Freedom Fighters.
Great show i love the Northrop F-5A/B Freedom Fiighter and even the F-5E Tiger ll. For me they are one the best combat aircraft that has been made.
Got to love those mig 28's... hehehe
Those mig 28 are actualy based on the f5 tiger
@@ArctrooperHavoc That's the joke
Those Electrovoice PA speakers are so good! The F-5s too!
I literally had ear plugs in for the deafening speakers. It was SO frustrating to not be able to get better video throughout the whole show.
@@AirshowStuffVideos Yes, when it happens, it's very annoying and distracting. You're also not enjoying the air show and ruins it all. But it's not the speakers fault or something. It's just that deaf guy, behind the mixer. Lower master volume. That's all...
@@Yiannis2112 Honestly I assumed your comment about the speakers was sarcastic lol we get so much crap when we post anything with music or narration even though we do our best to avoid it. That deaf bastard follows us everywhere we go!
@@AirshowStuffVideos No, not sarcastic at all, mate! I hope next time he's not there. Deaf sound guy! Oxymoron and contradictory...Like a blind sniper or a pilot who goes to sleep, with a 2g pull! LOL!
It's nice to see my home town base. I miss it.
Wouldn't it be great to go to an airshow without any of the stupid announcers and just be able to hear the aircraft?
Did that dude just call the Cobra's 20mm a "little gun"
Great footage from the 2019 Yuma Airshow, Thanks
I'm waiting for My Hobbymaster F-5 ,such a cool Fighter, 😀
Or save $4,000,000 for a real F-4 that's for sale online
@@finkamain1621 it will Not fit in my living room 😂😂😂
@@f-4ephantomll271 The numerous L-39's for sale might lol!
F 5 E , que bonito avión , símbolo de una época . Su diseño netamente aerodinámico ya tiene sesenta años , adelanto y excelente. El caza de la libertad , su finalidad están en que fue suministrado a la OTAN y muchos otros países. De este avión surge el T-38 entrenador avanzado en servicio por muchos años en la USAF. También el F -5 E lll en servicio actual . Un excelente video hace justicia a un excelente avión !!!
Very cool unique demo awesome vid
Anybody know if these guy are a demo team? If so please link there website..
The 80's commercial song really got me ! Any name on it ?
0:33 Those are not Freedom Fighters, Those are Tiger II. The Freedom Fighter is an F-5A/B. The Iiger II are F-5E/F. The Skoshi Tigers were indeed the F-5A Freedpm Fighters that were used in the Vietnam War. The ones in the video started to be delivered in 1972, after the Vietnam War. The F-5E Tiger II is an evolucion of the Freedom Fighter, looks similar, but there are important differences in size, engines, air intakes, thrust to weight ratio, "RADAR", etc. The Tiger II was a much better arcraft.
I’m pretty sure an F-5 would absolutely wreck both choppers at one time. That high, the choppers would catch a missile, but any lower they’d get boomed and zoomed by the 2 20mm cannons. I mean its exactly what MiG-17s did in Vietnam. Come by at 500-550 kts, cannons blazing and then go straight vertical and come by again. This would be extenuated by the F-5s ability to go supersonic. I mean they’d be booming and really zooming
Actually the USAF and the US Army did a war game series called J-CATCH in the late 70's, Army Helo's vs Air Force jets. The Air Force got trounced 5 - 1.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-CATCH
th-cam.com/video/Ie0CwP_EgM0/w-d-xo.html
@@dragsys well of course they did, it was an exercise designed to test tactics for helicopters, so I'm sure the jets were told exactly how to attack to see what would happen. No way they told an F-15 pilot to "go kill the chopper, any way you choose". This sounds a lot like the F-22 getting bested by the Rafale in training while leaving out the detail that the Rafale was allowed to start on the Raptors six and already in visual range. An F-15 coming in at just below the speed of sound armed with literally any air to air missile it can carry (Sidewinder, Sparrow, AMRAAM, etc.) with those avionics, the whirlybird has a snowball's chance in hell of even knowing which direction it came from. Wouldn't have time, looking for a way out of a burning brick.
@@blakebaker830 phase II J-CATCH and the jet pilots were told in the debriefings they were ALL killed in the mock combat ... thats how uneven it was ... the majority of simulated F-15 kills are MARINES heli pilots. . :)
@@sotabaka okay, but if you read through the rules of engagement on J CATCH, the fixed wing aircraft were not allowed to use any BVR weaponry. Guns and short range missiles only. Hardly an accurate representation of a true encounter. An AMRAAM from 5+ miles is much more likely.
@@dragsys yeah, and the fixed wing aircraft were restricted from using BVR weaponry. Guns and short range missile shots only, hardly and accurate representation given the capabilities of modern target ID and highly manuverable and intelligent missiles. A helos ass is grass.
from the designer of the p51 and the f86... the f5.. what a CV!!!!
2 of them plus 2 T38's coming to London Ont in September
❤🛫🛫🌏🇮🇩😮...Amazing F.5E/F. Tiger. II goo looking formations Airshow is the best. ❤🛫🛫🌏🇮🇩
Quick question from someone who isn't an expert: The helos don't have radar if I understood the announcer right. Wouldn't the jets just shoot them down from a distance ?
@Southern Fun Thanks for the explanation.
@Southern Fun modernized F-5E can carry 4x AIM-120 AMRAAM
These are not f-5 Freedom fighters but are F-5E Tiger II. From ex swiss air force. The freedom fighter name apply to F-5A/B and F-5C but not the -E
beautiful air plane
F.5 LOOKING GOOD JET EFFICASY PLUS ECONOMICAL.
OMG, MCAS?!? Northrop F-5 MAX!!!
These are Tigers, not Freedom Fighters
Their both, sorry but you're WRONG!
@@USAIRFORCE621 I wish I could post that gif with the black guys freaking out lol
Haha, both names are right
F-5 A/B= "Freedom Fighter"
F-5E/F = "Tiger II"
No, the F-5A is called the Freedom Fighter. F-5E's are Tiger's!
F5e Tiger. Skoshi Tiger was the F5a
you realize that you are telling that to the guys who use them in a daily basis and call it that ???
Rumor has it that awhile back the powers that be did a very extensive test of planes vs helicopters in different scenarios and so forth. From what I understand the fighters did so poorly against properly equipped helicopters with air-to-air capabilities they never publicly released the information.
That being said I love the Mig-28... I mean F-5
apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a180904.pdf
Any other flight simmers watching this? Perhaps my other channel DojoFS could try aerodynamic braking, who needs a braking parachute, reverse thrust, air brakes or damaging their wheel brakes?
Nice.
Does anyone know the F-5 pilots credentials? Are these regular citizens that fly them or are they retired military pilots?
HUH? Retired? Regular citizens?! They're Marine pilots of course...
Correct Locutus494 these jets and naval aviators are part of the U.S. Navy's Naval Weapons School, Top Gun for those who watch to much Tom Cruise. They're Marine pilots who fly as the aggressor squadron in dissimilar air combat engagement with fleet fighter personnel selected to attend the school.
Damn Mav its a MIG-28! Going in for a photo Op Goose, got to keep up relations and all.
@@ditzydoo4378 No, they're not part of the Naval Weapons School (I think you mean the Naval Aviation Warfighting Development Center). The jets in this video are from VMFT-401 at MCAS Yuma. They are a reserve squadron in MAG-41, 4th MAW, Marine Forces Reserve.
@@Locutus494 Cool beans! ^_^
Sorry didnt mean ruffle your Marine feathers, I simply dont have the info. Didnt realize F-5's were still in use. Thanks for your info, and by the looks of your profile pic, thanks for your service as well.
Wouldn't the Armament of the Fighters have better range than the Helicopter armament? Seems to me the jets could destroy the Helicopters in one pass.
I showed this to my grandpa
He's hiding behind the sofa
I don't get the joke, is he a communist or something?
But....you don't fight with the F-5E.
I guess you had to be there.
Those tigers were bought from the Swiss air force !
They absolutely were not. Those are American planes that we export to other countries.
@@becausereasons9777 The F-5s were bought from the Swiss, alot of our Tigers were.
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Everybody talking about Oh tHe ChOpPeRs wOuLd WrEcK tHe ChOpPeRs, remember a helicopter shot down an airplane with an AK47 and the chopper pilots are marines, so who knows
It must have been a door gunner then
Worst airshow commentators ever? Lol
If you can't say something nice.......
If you have to look down at the cheat sheet to remember what year Pearl was hit by the IJN I'd say you're not airshow material.. I had to watch again to see if I was being a jerk but I stand by 11 month old comment... And looks like 9 people agree with me. But yeah, I'll refrain next time. To be 'nice' 😜
The aircraft speak for themselves. It’s unfortunate someone thought it would be a good idea to speak over them. And yes worst commentator ever.
اذا هم مجموعين يشاهذون رموز اليوتيب اذا ارادو التواصل مع اشباحهم واذا هم مجموعين على الالعاب فذالك اختيارهم
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Nice jet, F 4 has better air conditioning.
F4, F5. Excelent naves!!!!
Excelent naves....que hdp jajaja
F-5E max speed mach 1.7 not 1.5
Soyvphouvan futuro futuro
You know it’s embarrassing when a helicopter out turns a fighter
Nonsense insignia it says marines but the star means Russian Airforce bruh nerd and biases 😆
Marine Corps propaganda is so obnoxious. Just let me enjoy the aircraft without hearing about how "every single weapon platform we use in the Marines we fight to the teeth with to kill the enemy"... like the other services don't? Jesus.