Very informative and well composed, how would you deal with such games when playing a champion that cannot kill or engage? This question is more about playing enchanter supports, but the concept shouldn't be too different.
Idk, I just had two games where their team rotates into my jungle and camps me while my team just flames me for dying, not sure what to do in those situations
Its not a bad play, its more consistent than what I did. The reason I went bot was because i value the potential play on enemy camps more but its still lower percentage.
It's hilarious the difference in mindset between pro players (you) and actual ladder players lol (even challengers) Pro players: Always pin point what they did bad and need to improve on, rarely blame teammates Ladder players: Always blame others and very rarely themselves.
15:42 how should xin zhao play here if maokai comes to counter him? Do you still think he should check? I think thats why he didn't invade you because he has no vision of botlane spawning back
Thanks for the video, some good insight. My question is what the hell happened this game from going 9-3 to cutting to 11-7 in the space of 10 minutes is what i wanna know 😂
XDDD you said you would win 70 games of the 100 games Canyon would win, and Canyon would win 95 of them. But if Canyon wins the 100 games, he Just wins 100 games wtf.
If you hadnt killed xin at 28:09 with your ult and just Q him, you would have the ult for the last outplay taliyah and xin. Idk what you mean with viego identity, but it just sounds like a nice wrapping for an unnecessary overkill :D
Seriously, I'm tired of high elo coaches telling someone is inting when they're 0/2. Brother, in gold both my toplane and my bot lane are 2/14 by 15 minutes, tell me HOW is this my fault???
I think the difference is in high elo they should know what they're doing is inting. Low elo people don't understand they're overextending and putting themselves in bad situations so it's not really the same. There's a knowledge gap
@@quinlan9860 You completely missed the point. My point is, high elo coaches have a hard time putting themselves in the position of low elo because they're used to a completely different environment. So when he analyzes a game where he says someone is inting when they're 0/2, he is misrepresenting the true low elo experience. High elo coaches teach low elo but they don't have hundreds of low elo games, they have dozens... not hundreds.
I dont really think you need kraken on viego, being tanky is more valuable IMO but you can still go kraken its just a different build. Kraken sundered titanic/sterak
Great video. I noticed though that you have a great duelist/farming jungler. What can I do when mid is even like yours here and the other 2 are inting (harder ofc cause it's low elo game) and I'm playing a tank jungler? And then my top has 2 deaths and starts griefing me and takes my camps leaving me behind against a counter jungler to my own. What can I do then? Thank you in advance for the advices and the enemy jungler awareness tips :) Edit: I was thinking to change and try to main a couple of farming junglers as well tbh...
Nothing you can do about the top laner taking camps just try and ignore it, they do it to try and get a reaction from you. If you just ignore them and play your game they will stop once they realize you don't care.
Going to make things much easier if you are playing a carry jungler. Unfortunately when you pick tank/support jungles you sign up for having to rely on your team mates but you essentially apply the same principles, its just harder.
Thoughts about taking Xin's raptors again and then going to your blue buff after checking his krugs (14:04)? Seems like a good time investment, even if he's there looks like ahri has prio? (Even though ahri has back timer but she can hover still), also unlikely xin goes for raptors to wolves usually
I should have, but only because enemy bot was freezing. In a normal circumstance my bot has just used their move mid and wants to collect the bot wave so it would not be a good time for dragon.
how do i get out of iron while carrying every game i play brother? My whole team literally is in the negative while im the only player with a brain cell please help me exit this hell
@@leeallen5132 and kill? I don’t mean 1v3 when the stars align against 3 champs you counter btw. Viego is a skirmisher and can take many fights and win that other champs just wouldn’t all while having a small lead or being even.
@Aiter918 but he's certainly not the fastest in any of those categories. I'd really recommend not focusing on the champion so much and just looking at the decision-making
@@leeallen5132 bro I play rammus. Of course the decision making is the main focus. But you’d be lying if you said Viego isn’t a well rounded champion that will make things easier for you.
These gurus coaches are trash. They just do the same garbage of analyzing a game after it happened just like cryptobros and “traders” justify market movements after they happen but then they miss every prediction. Save your time and don’t watch this scammer
Please try covering a game that showcases invading to kill the enemy jungler if possible
Very informative and well composed, how would you deal with such games when playing a champion that cannot kill or engage? This question is more about playing enchanter supports, but the concept shouldn't be too different.
one of your best
Appreciate it 🙏
Yep. Right after this Video I had a feeding TOP and also BOT but I managed to go 39/4/16 and won us the game. What a game..
Idk, I just had two games where their team rotates into my jungle and camps me while my team just flames me for dying, not sure what to do in those situations
22:33 i would have 100% go push the mid wave before going bot. Is that a bad play ?
Its not a bad play, its more consistent than what I did. The reason I went bot was because i value the potential play on enemy camps more but its still lower percentage.
It's hilarious the difference in mindset between pro players (you) and actual ladder players lol (even challengers)
Pro players: Always pin point what they did bad and need to improve on, rarely blame teammates
Ladder players: Always blame others and very rarely themselves.
Nah Id win
There are losing lanes? Go to lower elo and play with 0/4 people xD
Not quite sure what you are saying, but I hope you dont assume that the challenger would not be able to carry in silver.
It's so easy to solo carry in lower elo it's insane
Never seen someone articulate how they play so well nd fluently
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@@JungleGapGG How to win if my Top trundle is 0/12/3 then the enemy top jayce 21/7/5?
I jungle too 😂
15:42 how should xin zhao play here if maokai comes to counter him? Do you still think he should check? I think thats why he didn't invade you because he has no vision of botlane spawning back
Pretend to leave but then go back to my camps after maokai shows bot, but yes its a hard/annoying situation for him.
How did xin do 4 camps while you did fullclear + gank bot + scuttle ???
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Thanks for the video, some good insight. My question is what the hell happened this game from going 9-3 to cutting to 11-7 in the space of 10 minutes is what i wanna know 😂
learned a lot from this! Thank you lil bro
“lil bro” is crazy 😭😭😭
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Well he's little 😊@@darcyoqueef8595
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@@mastercretin3432 im sorry, was that offensive? I'm 56 year old haha, don't know these gen Z sayings very well.
Any tips how to setup ping shortcuts? I am an oldschooler so I use the wheel :)
@@San7hos the wheel is what high elo uses too
XDDD you said you would win 70 games of the 100 games Canyon would win, and Canyon would win 95 of them. But if Canyon wins the 100 games, he Just wins 100 games wtf.
If you hadnt killed xin at 28:09 with your ult and just Q him, you would have the ult for the last outplay taliyah and xin. Idk what you mean with viego identity, but it just sounds like a nice wrapping for an unnecessary overkill :D
Very insightful! And viego is a cool champion to watch.
Seriously, I'm tired of high elo coaches telling someone is inting when they're 0/2. Brother, in gold both my toplane and my bot lane are 2/14 by 15 minutes, tell me HOW is this my fault???
I think the difference is in high elo they should know what they're doing is inting. Low elo people don't understand they're overextending and putting themselves in bad situations so it's not really the same. There's a knowledge gap
@@quinlan9860 You completely missed the point. My point is, high elo coaches have a hard time putting themselves in the position of low elo because they're used to a completely different environment. So when he analyzes a game where he says someone is inting when they're 0/2, he is misrepresenting the true low elo experience. High elo coaches teach low elo but they don't have hundreds of low elo games, they have dozens... not hundreds.
Appreciate the video, I’m new to the game so all of these tips and thought processes are helping me see the game in a better way.
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What made you choose BC and triforce over Kraken? I like Viego but always struggle with his squishiness
I dont really think you need kraken on viego, being tanky is more valuable IMO but you can still go kraken its just a different build. Kraken sundered titanic/sterak
Great video. I noticed though that you have a great duelist/farming jungler.
What can I do when mid is even like yours here and the other 2 are inting (harder ofc cause it's low elo game) and I'm playing a tank jungler? And then my top has 2 deaths and starts griefing me and takes my camps leaving me behind against a counter jungler to my own.
What can I do then?
Thank you in advance for the advices and the enemy jungler awareness tips :)
Edit: I was thinking to change and try to main a couple of farming junglers as well tbh...
Nothing you can do about the top laner taking camps just try and ignore it, they do it to try and get a reaction from you. If you just ignore them and play your game they will stop once they realize you don't care.
Going to make things much easier if you are playing a carry jungler. Unfortunately when you pick tank/support jungles you sign up for having to rely on your team mates but you essentially apply the same principles, its just harder.
Rule 1: Pick Viego.
Rule 2: Win.
there, i summarized the video for you
Against a xin, alistar and ornn,why not go Bork first item?
can you post live vods, where you share your thought process live?
Thoughts about taking Xin's raptors again and then going to your blue buff after checking his krugs (14:04)? Seems like a good time investment, even if he's there looks like ahri has prio? (Even though ahri has back timer but she can hover still), also unlikely xin goes for raptors to wolves usually
Does your videos apply to wildrift?? Thanks
You forgot the most important step: play Viego. A fed enemy team is a fed viego
Is it possible you could’ve 3 camp cleared bot side and then gank? Because the matchup is so volatile?
But it's not consistent, and you want consistency in between games
Great video, love the play by play explanations. /mute all is the way.
This is the way.
Good stuff, so much valueable information here, tying macro, micro and mentality together.
TY! 💪
Play in low ELO
Not using jhin trap at 19:50 is criminal
great explanation, really talented dude
13:58 i think here you should have went drake correct me if im wrong
I should have, but only because enemy bot was freezing. In a normal circumstance my bot has just used their move mid and wants to collect the bot wave so it would not be a good time for dragon.
Play against teams that are not good and you will win, got it
Teams are never good that’s the point of soloQ, people always make tons of mistakes and its up to you to abuse those mistakes
Well done good sir, thank you!
Very cool!
9:16 how did you know xin zhao did 4 camps here ? I rly have no idea... you did a full clear, so logically, he must have done the same ! T_T
hold tab and look at creep count. Each camp is 4cs
Also you see xin showing top around 7:30 of the video, 2:50 in-game time and his toplaner pings it
how do i get out of iron while carrying every game i play brother? My whole team literally is in the negative while im the only player with a brain cell please help me exit this hell
play more and consume educational content like this.
if you're the only player with a brain cell then you shouldn't have issue climbing out
Step 1: Play a strong champion that is meta that can actually 2v1 like Viego.
Like any champion can 1v2 if you're fed. I 1v3d yesterday as Sejuani
@@leeallen5132 and kill? I don’t mean 1v3 when the stars align against 3 champs you counter btw. Viego is a skirmisher and can take many fights and win that other champs just wouldn’t all while having a small lead or being even.
@@leeallen5132 1v2 is just the most obvious example of Viego’s strengths. He can also solo take towers, objectives and camps quickly.
@Aiter918 but he's certainly not the fastest in any of those categories. I'd really recommend not focusing on the champion so much and just looking at the decision-making
@@leeallen5132 bro I play rammus. Of course the decision making is the main focus. But you’d be lying if you said Viego isn’t a well rounded champion that will make things easier for you.
After watching a lot of your videos and seeing the efficiency I see now how many people doing videos have bad fundamentals
These gurus coaches are trash. They just do the same garbage of analyzing a game after it happened just like cryptobros and “traders” justify market movements after they happen but then they miss every prediction. Save your time and don’t watch this scammer