This was so beautiful. So pure . So honest . So real . I’m not Mormon. But born into a black southern Baptist Christian family. And I recently just came out ab month ago today actually . And these stories over the last month leading up to that have blessed me tremendously. Thank you for starting this community. It’s truly apart of my healing journey ❤
Like Nate, I had the same negative beliefs about the gay community as a whole when I first encountered a group of gay males decades ago. I was hanging around men that I did not personally like nor wanted to live the way they were living. All were self-destructive individuals. I learned to let others live the way that they choose. It is none of my business how other people live. There is no specific "gay" lifestyle. Every gay male and lesbian lives differently. I really dislike it when heterosexual people refer to the "gay" lifestyle. There are some things that numerous gay men engage in that may conflict with your faith, your personal comfort, and what you want in life personally. I do not drink alcohol, do not do drugs including marijuana and never have, do not go to gay bars, do not participate in sex parties nor do threesomes. I am married to a wonderful man, and we both live the same way. I do not expect every gay male or lesbian to live as I do or think like I do. What I do in my life is what makes me personally comfortable, and it works for me. Just like any person in the heterosexual community, as a gay person, you get to decide what is right for you. Pretty much every gay male and lesbian that I socialize with lives an ordinary life: works 5 days a week, cleans their home on weekends, does some socializing, and travels to some place on most weekends for fun. Today, I do not care about the sexual orientation of the people that I meet or socialize with. Life is what you make of it. You have to be able to look yourself in the mirror every morning and like your life and like what you see in the mirror when you wake up. Life can be beautiful if you strive for what you want.
I am out gay and proud and inactive LDS. I'm probably going out on a limb of upsetting some folks but I don''t think that God made us gay or straight. I know our church teaches us that God made our spirits. Our parents made our bodies. We are some what imprisoned in our bodies and have to navigate within that perimeter. Some people are born blind, or deaf or missing limbs or have developmental issues and they have to cope with that and survive the best they can. When we were young children, that was our true self right? When puberty hit, then sexual feelings came into the picture. Those are biological markers that go with the body, the body you are issued. DNA determines what ailments come with it and you have to deal with all that comes with it. Sexuality doesn't define us as a whole.
Small word of advice (hopefully that's okay)... if you could spend waaaaaaaaay less time on the intro, that would be great. Just say you'll link everything in the description and get right to it :)
Without a doubt, just gotta be one of the best of this series of interviews. Wishing Nate and his husband a life full of health, family and love....!
This was so beautiful. So pure . So honest . So real . I’m not Mormon. But born into a black southern Baptist Christian family. And I recently just came out ab month ago today actually . And these stories over the last month leading up to that have blessed me tremendously. Thank you for starting this community. It’s truly apart of my healing journey ❤
We don't know what we don't know.....and, when we know better we do better. This is a lovely interview. What a fine young man!
Like Nate, I had the same negative beliefs about the gay community as a whole when I first encountered a group of gay males decades ago. I was hanging around men that I did not personally like nor wanted to live the way they were living. All were self-destructive individuals. I learned to let others live the way that they choose. It is none of my business how other people live.
There is no specific "gay" lifestyle. Every gay male and lesbian lives differently. I really dislike it when heterosexual people refer to the "gay" lifestyle. There are some things that numerous gay men engage in that may conflict with your faith, your personal comfort, and what you want in life personally.
I do not drink alcohol, do not do drugs including marijuana and never have, do not go to gay bars, do not participate in sex parties nor do threesomes. I am married to a wonderful man, and we both live the same way. I do not expect every gay male or lesbian to live as I do or think like I do. What I do in my life is what makes me personally comfortable, and it works for me.
Just like any person in the heterosexual community, as a gay person, you get to decide what is right for you. Pretty much every gay male and lesbian that I socialize with lives an ordinary life: works 5 days a week, cleans their home on weekends, does some socializing, and travels to some place on most weekends for fun. Today, I do not care about the sexual orientation of the people that I meet or socialize with. Life is what you make of it. You have to be able to look yourself in the mirror every morning and like your life and like what you see in the mirror when you wake up. Life can be beautiful if you strive for what you want.
Powerful episode! Thank you, Nate and Kyle!
Wow what a great episode. So much of what Nate said resonated, thankyou for the podcast
A beautiful experience hearing Nathan Gardners story- how much old hurts I still have not unpacked lie ahead of me to deal with
I *LOVED* this story, and God bless gay love!
Thank You. I thought if I abstain that by 64 I would be changed. 😢
21:33 My eyes went wide when he said, "it was just regular CBT therapy." ....then he defined what he meant by CBT.
To be honest "snowballing" takes on a whole new dimension in a gay context.
Great minds think alike! 😅
People often confuse religious teachings with morality. They are two separate things based on completely different critieria and goals.
I am out gay and proud and inactive LDS. I'm probably going out on a limb of upsetting some folks but I don''t think that God made us gay or straight. I know our church teaches us that God made our spirits. Our parents made our bodies. We are some what imprisoned in our bodies and have to navigate within that perimeter. Some people are born blind, or deaf or missing limbs or have developmental issues and they have to cope with that and survive the best they can. When we were young children, that was our true self right? When puberty hit, then sexual feelings came into the picture. Those are biological markers that go with the body, the body you are issued. DNA determines what ailments come with it and you have to deal with all that comes with it. Sexuality doesn't define us as a whole.
It is awesome!! thanks for sharing! and I have a boyfriend who is Cathloic from chicago..
Small word of advice (hopefully that's okay)... if you could spend waaaaaaaaay less time on the intro, that would be great. Just say you'll link everything in the description and get right to it :)
Why can't I find guys hot as this outside Utah?
Why? Because you're not looking. I found the most beautiful man ever outside of Utah.
@@joshuaconnelly2415 Where was he hiding?
@@gbriank1, out in the open. I snatched him up, and he is gorgeous in all regards.
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Your Mother was also saying this is my son who is alive because no one has murdered him, and who has not committed suicide!
Who do you love first?
Living your truth sounds wishy washy. It sounds more like a commitment problem with your faith and the church. Is this wrong?