You can tell the people responding to this video did so before watching the whole thing as if they haven’t heard anything you guys of said. It all sounds like good news so far and that the whole ban is going to be nothing more than theatrics. Skydio is not going to get what they want.
@@KenHeron I watched the whole thing but it still troubles me. You know what Gov’t stugatz people are like. If they can pander they will. Keep fightin the good fight.
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha!!!!! Tell me you're an NPC without telling me you're an NPC. Her and the people that support her are anti-china, simple as that. They didn't need skydio to tell them that China was a threat and that drones entirely made by them could potentially be a threat. Blame the Ukrainian war.
I have a chance to speak with an Ohio congressman. Warren Davidson R. I'm definitely gonna bring up drones to him. How he should add the 3.8% or 300000 chinese products that use the internet or some kind of data to that ban as well. If he supports the dji ban. Hopefully, he at least will listen. Most politicians don't really know about things they want to ban. Like fully semi-automatic firearms. DUMB! Or they look scary! Just as an example.
The fact they don't even want to ground what's already here proves how not dangerous, but corrupt this is. And scared of a backdoor but what are those green lookalike drones in Texas? A front door?!
What if Chinese drones really are a security risk to the US? What if this is more about future technologies and not the current drones? What if this is really about trying to reduce the amount of US funding fueling Chinese drone development (which are very good)? It is already very easy to weaponize drones as we have seen over the last year. Shouldn’t we be willing to have an honest conversation about it?
@@Brakes8377 They may be more worried about what us citizens can do with quality drones.. less what china is going to do with consumer drones that are already here.
Remote ID basically side lined me already. I used to fly 10 packs a week. I haven't flown 10 this year. I haven't quit but.... I let my 107 expire. I didn't make enough $$ on real estate BS to justify hundreds per drone for remote ID. I found things to do that don't involve flying. I still love the hobby. I will not comply. If I fly I won't show you here on TH-cam like I did. I've got 300+ videos not very good but I recorded it. I will be at Mindfield I will not comply. I might fly. I won't show you here probably. I might find an SD card on the ground and post that. I HATE ALMOST ALL POLITICIANS.
Since we are sharing opinions: Congress sees this as a "national security" issue. If the NDAA passes with the same language that we read in the House bill (HR-8070), it makes no sense that Congress would allow the existing products to keep their FCC approval.
@@CDRaff Hmm, time will tell what happens, as it always does. I am personally hoping the language we see in HR-8070 does not make it into the final bill! Edit: I am still researching the current FCC equipment Authorization Rules. Back in 2022 there was this question: "Whether the Commission should revoke authorizations held by entities on the Covered List, and the procedure for revoking authorizations, if adopted." Back then, they did not revoke previous authorizations. Clearly they were looking into it though. I am not sure what the current state of the rules are, but am certainly trying to figure it out. Edit II: From what I can tell and in short, nowadays they can revoke existing authorizations once a company or product goes on the "covered list". Essentially, it is up to their discretion, but ultimately, they have the power and authority to do so. After additional research, I stand by my original comment.
So is this A. Ban of all dji products in the usa Or B. A ban on all businesses and government from using dji, but recreational is still okay. I need a simple answer
I was pretty happy with my Holy Stone 720G but kept thinking about upgrading, they pushed the right button 2 days ago and I got a Mini 4 Pro before it was too late. I got the "smaller" batteries so it won't push location automatically. I will upgrade the batteries when I know it's "safe"
Don’t send more than 500 words to Stefanik . The email won’t go thru. I heard Stefanik is working with Skydio. What a blow to the progress of the drone industry from first responders to commercial and hobby fliers!!! Bummer.
😂 "I heArd sTefAnIk wAs wOrkiNg witH skYdio". From who? It's clear you're not paying attention to current events. This has nothing to do with skydio. Drones are something that is on the United States military's radar 24/7, even more so with the events in Ukraine. They didn't need a failed drone company (skydio) to convince them that China is a threat either.
@@DingleBerryschnapps Bravo! About 6 years ago Skydio had a drone they were marketing toward the hobbyist that had terrific ability to track a person on a bicycle through woods and around trees. It was about 20% to 30% more expensive than DJI, but great capabilities and USA made. The last time I looked, Skydio was marketing to large companies and gov't agencies for thousands of dollars. They didn't seem to have much to offer the hobbyist or small business in a price range comparable to DJI. So, why would Skydio be trying to sabotage a company in a market they don't seem interested in?
@@DingleBerryschnapps HELLO? Joe Bartlett, states on his LinkedIn account he is “Directing of Federal Policy” at Skydio. (Translation: Lobbyist.) He ALSO states he was National Security Advisor to Elise Stefanik for 5 years, 11 months ending January 2023. This has EVERYTHING to do with Skydio!
@@BryanTorok I think they want to take over First Responder and large farming Drones. Stefanik agrees. How is my comment funny, by the way? 1 person takes away our rights and freedom of choice and you laugh? Keep laughing.
I got 5 DJI drones and still fly 3 (air2s, mini 3 pro, mini 2) and I have a few analog fpv quads. I’ve been wanting so bad to build a cinewhoop with an air O3 module and grab a pair of DJI goggles but I’ve been scared it’s going to be banned and prevented from accessing communications. Well this video made me feel a little better! Thanks guys!
What if Chinese drones really are a security risk to the US? What if this is more about future technologies and not the current drones? What if this is really about trying to reduce the amount of US funding fueling Chinese drone development (which are very good)? It is already very easy to weaponize drones as we have seen over the last year. Shouldn’t we be willing to have an honest conversation about it?
@@Brakes8377 Some people are worried about China using our drones to spy on people. That's the silliest thing I have ever heard. You can go to Google Earth and see everything you need. If that is not good enough you can buy a ticket on an airline and fly to the US as a tourist, travel around and take all the pictures you want. Right now we have more problems with our Southern Open Borders that are letting God knows who into our country. I don't know why people are so worried about us taking our drones and going on vacation and fly around taking pictures. Why are things made in Japan, Vietnam, and China is because the stock holders of these companies have demanded higher profits on their stock. They have cut everything there is to be cut. The only thing to cut is labor. China has a lot of 'cheap' labor. DJI has done some marvelous things in producing a product that does things great. They are a leader in the drone industry.
@@Brakes8377 "Shouldn’t we be willing to have an honest conversation about it?" lolol... what politician is going to be honest? Oh right, none. What feelings driven screecher is going to be honest? None. Good luck with that honest conversation. The people who right these laws aren't honest about now or ever.
No they are wanting to ban drones because politicians don’t know better. They think that remote access is a thing. Think about it, the phones we use EVERYDAY and take EVERYWHERE with us are made overseas. They can be used for remote access a lot easier. Drone have no internet, they can’t send anything. They do nothing. You can use a phone without cell or internet service or an iPad with no cell service to fly a drone. There is literally zero way anything from a drone can be uploaded remotely. It has to be connected to a device with internet. Our phones have that built in, and can send stuff 24/7 but they are not trying to ban them are they? You take a battery out of a drone to charge and it’s a paper weight. What images can they possibly send anyway? It all depends on what the operator is flying over. So someone on vacation at a lake follow boats? Yeah that is a real interest to China. They can see the same thing on Instagram with better photos.
@@PTRRanger951 I have a Mavic mini, what do I use to see what the camera sees? My phone with an app on it?. How does DJI update their bios and the like? How many times have you heard a DJI owner say they are grounded till they update their system? How does the drone update? You hook it up to the computer. Ukraine has stopped using DJI drones because they transmit their location, destination and origin. Please do disagree with me but do your homework first.
@@repalmore guess you can’t read. You don’t need internet to fly the drone. If your phone is connected to the internet THEN it knows it needs an update. It doesn’t know if you don’t have service. Explain to me how I can fly my drone on a tablet with no internet connection. Oh yeah, you don’t need internet to fly it. Might want to do your own research, or actually read what I said. You DONT need internet to fly. And if you think they stopped using drones, that’s funny. You can turn off the cellular data to your phone and turn the app on and it will work just fine. But that’s the point isn’t it? What are the odds you would be flying over someone another country wants to see? It’s not going to happen. But you already have a phone in your pocket with a camera, with a mic and with its own cellular data, that is on more often than a drone yet drones are the issue? Get over yourself. It has nothing to do with spying. We have houses with security systems made in China, we have cars with cellular data with cameras, we have phones. But drones that may fly for 15 minutes at a time over nothing anything cares about are a threat? How? What can a drone possibly show that can’t be seen using a simple internet search or looking at a sat photo? Or sending someone to look for themselves? The drone operator needs to be in the exact area, at the exact time, flying over the exact thing another country wants to look at.
@@repalmore If a drone transmits location, destination (?) and origin, then that's because your government wanted drones to have Remote ID. Now all of a sudden it is DJI spying on a naked tree you film from above with your Mavic Mini of mass destruction?
Ken is an annoying person. From flying within feet of people's heads, diving buildings over cars. Yeah he's obnoxious. This is just an extension of that.
It's very difficult For United States companies that are profit-oriented towards share owners to beat DJI. Because DJI is a private company. Where the owner and CEO Wang does not hesitate to use 90% of the company's profits for innovation and technological development .
First banned video I watched completely. You guys are very entertaining. Thanks for making me feel better. I just got back my repaired Mavic Pro Plat from DJI. And, I stopped buying accessories for my new Avata 2.👍
1. Politics, 2. Money 3. Safety. Feel free to interchange 1 and 2. Game over before reaching 3rd base sometimes. Kind of like, as referenced in this presentation, the “cart before the horse”.
I’m a new dji drone owner. I have been following u KH for about 2 years now, and finally saved some $$ for a drone. Thank you for having a discussion on this topic. I was curious, not panicking but concerned since I just got the drone and new to the hobby. 👍🏻 typical politicians looking out for our safety and good interest (sarc) I’m curious how many of those politicians invested in new drone US companies 🤔
Tariffs do work, it does allow US companies to compete with countries who thrive on really cheap labor. But when unions get involved along with "minimum wage" increases, it drives the cost of US manufacturing up even higher.
I wanted to share my perspective on the current discussions regarding the potential ban on Chinese drones in the U.S. It seems to me that this ban does not truly reflect a genuine concern from the U.S. government about Chinese drones. Rather, implementing such a ban would eliminate approximately 90% of recreational drones sold in the U.S., significantly reducing the number of drones flown in this country. Additionally, it's worth noting that the momentum for this ban only started to build after SkyDio's exit from the consumer drone market. This timing seems more than coincidental and suggests that other factors may be influencing the narrative. I believe it is crucial for us to address this issue from this perspective in our messaging. Your insights and support in this matter would be highly valued. Best regards, Lead Coordinator & Remote Pilot Trainer, Syosset Fire Department
If DJI was a big problem then why have these not been banned long ago? It is sad that there is not a company in the US that can compete head to head in this market.
As long as we still allow insider trading among politicians...DJI will be a "Security threat" ...please ignore those weather balloons overhead...they're harmless... RE: Ford.... The chip shortage doesn't anything to do with people not having $100k for a vehicle anymore....
thank you for the video and I just want to tell you that I Live in a middle eastern country and I have a autel evo max 4t and it has just bin blockd by autel because my country is in war, and I am wondering if this is a measure that was done by autel to show the world that they are an innocent company that will do anything they're told so that they don't get banned in countries like the US ?
Tariffs do punish the Chinese as well. Tariffs raise the price and likely fewer will be purchased. Thus, the Chinese will make less profit. I do think it is ridiculous that it will be in the NDAA to ban anything from civilians.
I guess the other question is... IF DJI ends up becoming the Huawei in the US, whats the alternative in terms of brands? It always seemed that DJI had the partial monopoly on Drone sales and production across the globe.
In all likelihood, if the ban is passed it'll be similar to what they proposed with TikTok where they make DJI sell their US distribution to some American subsidiary company and operate like that and the consumers will not really see any noticiable difference in anything other than maybe a line of text on the box.
Here in the UK. I have just bought the new DJi Mini 4 Pro Flymore. Also have two Mini 1 and a Phantom 3 Pro. Had an Inspire 2 X5S but sold it as it was overkill for shooting weddings. Not banning me.
The thumbnail alone caused chaos in the drone community! 😂 great video. I completely agree. I’m gonna keep flying until they brick them. Thanks for your input Ryan.
I have considered working on my own drone made entirely in the US, but I'm still a broke high schooler with absolutely no way to print mold or make any of the cameras and sensors that I would need. I've also got some software engineering skills to design the software.
Start a stamp collection if you want. Not me! My buddy Bert, and me are startin' a paper clip collection. Not just any paper clip collection, though.....a "Made in China" paper clip collection!
The gooberment loves stamp collectors because they sell those little pieces of paper and never have to provide the service. Why do you think they promote stamp collecting so much?
I'm new to drone stuff and need to get one for business, but I'm wondering: even if i can buy a dji drone now, or even later in the year, won't i have trouble registering it for use with part 107 after the ban takes place? Or renewing the registration in years to come?
DJI makes such solid, well built, drones and flying experiences - no other (that I am aware of) complete options available for consumer/pro-sumer flyers. I've grown to trust the hardware and software to do what I expect and want it to do - both safely and effectively. Drones, action cameras, gimbals - they make solid systems. May not be doom-and-gloom but it sure is a bummer.
It's not a blanket ban just a import ban that means the new stuff dji comes out with they can't bring it into the US and the fcc won't allow new authorizations
@@skeetermcg1 Yes, very true - my statement still stands that it is a bummer (maybe not a current bummer, but a future one when DJI comes out with their next iterations of their drones, action cameras, microphones and gimbals)
Likely DJI would release and update ensuring any geofencing or such would be easily unlocked if a ban did occur on previous items. If not the community will provide.
Great video, and Ryan did a wonderful job of explaining what's going on with this drone bill. I'm also holding out hope that some of this gets shot down before the bill is signed into law. Thanks for sharing, Ken.
I am part of the fpv group and i have a digital quad but i prefer my analog for my flying i stocked up on the parts needed to keep building or repairing my analog quads. I just feel more comfortable plus i dont have any of the gps junk or etc which is nice, i have a dji mavic mini isk which number but it the newer one but i use it mainy to let the wife fly and practice when we are out or ill use it for some slow video capture but i prefer my gopro ans analog quad😅❤❤❤ oh and yeah we have plenty of work arounds if needed for fpv😅❤
Sub-250 gram drones here in Canada do NOT require either I.D or registration. 250 gram to 25 kg do however (unless flown "indoors"). Is your U.S. Part-107 licensing not similar in that regard? And bye-the-way, for a non-Canadian resident to fly here in Canada even if you have a U.S. part-107 requires an SFOC authorization from Transport Canada. (Special Flight Operations Certificate). This HOBBY is becoming more and more difficult to be compliant both in the U.S. and in Canada. Greetings from Ontario, Canada.
How come they are not banning iPhones because they are made in China. They have WiFi, take pictures and videos and have microphones. Also none removable batteries.
The ban is for DJI… Huawei was the subject of the cell phone ban and HikVision was the subject for the security camera ban. DJI is a clandestine branch of the CCP military (MSS/PLA) and that is why they are under scrutiny. This is about war not silly little drones.
I was ready to purchase my first drone and have put it off because of this bill. Should I still go ahead with buying one because it will be grandfathered in? Or I am taking a risk of spending money on something I might not be able to use in the future?
Will DJI still be able to import new stock of models that have been certified already? E.g. the Avata 2 was approved before the bill, will Avata 2's be able to be imported after the bill passes?
So in USA. If the Ban kicks in. Its for R&D projects not yet releeased. All existing drones (Mini, Air, Mavric, Avarta and Inspire) available are already have FCC approval etc you can still fly and buy. It might mean the only dromes we can ever buy is those drones. Until this bill gets challenged or revisisted.
I sold my stamp collection to buy a drone🤣 All those drone operators that are heading for the hills, please forward all unwanted DJI drones & equipment to me😀 RTFO!!!🤘
so since NDAA is a yearly renewed package, we may find that with enough input to our representatives, we might see it reversed or revoked at some point ?
Skydio isn't the one lobbying for this. America is going through an imperialist crisis, It wants to maintain its "rules based order" against China and Russia and therefore is trying to carve up the world into 2 blocs. One which is led by them and one which is completely U.S dominated. If the U.S cannot compete with China then it will opt for complete bans to protect whatever is left of U.S industry even if it means causing economic pain and disruptions.
I follow the wait and see approach on this not to panic. But I also send in (several times) my opposition to this bill. This is just about the money not a security issue DJI made this happen by removing the flight logs being transmitted back to them. Joe Bartlett, current Director of Federal Policy at Skydio and former National Security Advisor to none other than Congresswoman Elise Stefanik.
@@KenHeron I agree, but what I meant to ask is the 2-3 somewhat popular 3rd party apps that you can use to fly a number of different DJI drones with - would they continue to work “if” DJI app was some how banned ( like those congressional morons are trying to do with the TikTok app ( which I don’t use anyways)?
Look on the bright side, when all the DJI drones have been cleared off the shelves in the USA at least you'll still have the likes of 'the egg' drone and that can shaped one that folds up, you remember the one you smashed up, you liked it so much!😲😳 Ok the footage won't be so 'buttery smooth' but I'm sure with a little 'real steady pro' magic and some colour correction, you'll have something vaguely watchable?🤔😊
Rep. Elise Stefanik is personally going to benefit from the DJI ban. It's her bill because she has investments in Skydio. Too bad, because I used to like her...
The remote ID the only way I’m aware of to track you is to use an App and it looks for you using 3 signals and 2 of them are not seen on IOS devices so just about everyone has a Ap that don’t see you I’m sure there is a device that watches air space but you have to be close and who’s gonna get one unless they have issues with illegal flights If you have a android and the app and your close you can certainly be seen but that narrows it down .
During cold war USSR had all kind off trade barriers and bans ,you know how that ended,Now USA has all kind off trade barriers and bans and keep growing every day
I’m an Amateur Extra. A HAM license means you have no excuse for not being FCC compliant. HAM’s and HAM operations are absolutely required to be compliant with all FCC regulations.
I had an update to my firmware today and thought the same thing.... will I be able to fly this thing (DJI mini 2 se) when it's done? I already have to worried about Kens & Karens and law enforcement who are uninformed, I dont need the added pressure of anyone with a heartbeat, if it came down to that I would just land it and keep it landed, I only have about $500 invested, I feel sorry for those who have thousands. Hope it never comes to that. The director of skydio used to be a national security advisor to Elise Stefanik...corruption at its finest! Guys, thank you for keeping us informed on this! and Ken, did I see you back down to a challenge at 10:20 into the video?
Does anyone really believe my crappy drone footage of some empty landscapes is more of a national security risk than the Chinese satellite passing over the country getting high res photos down to blades of grass?
If we can keep flying our current drones after a ban, and it's later determined that there is no security threat, would you suppose we'd be able to purchase later models?
I tried to look up this document and actually read it....OMG....who writes this stuff??? If anyone out there is suffering from insomnia, I got a sure fire cure for you....start reading this document....😵💫😵🥴
I am in the community and I love flying drones. Like you said in your video, I’m one of those people that has been planning on getting into flying drones commercially. I am enrolled in Pilot Institute taking part 107 and mapping course. I had high hopes, and was literally looking over the price of the Mavic 3T to purchase for commercial use when I heard about this bill. Now I am uncertain, if that would be a wise choice to make such a huge investment. In your opinion, should I look at American drones to purchase instead. They are more than twice the price 🤦🏼♂️
I haven't flown my Mavic Mini is close to a year. I expect that it won't fly unless I update it. I think the last time I tried to fly it, it wouldn't work until I updated it.
You can tell the people responding to this video did so before watching the whole thing as if they haven’t heard anything you guys of said. It all sounds like good news so far and that the whole ban is going to be nothing more than theatrics. Skydio is not going to get what they want.
HAAA!
So true. 😆👍
@@KenHeron I watched the whole thing but it still troubles me. You know what Gov’t stugatz people are like. If they can pander they will. Keep fightin the good fight.
I watched the whole video and still reply to please the YT algorithm gods....
@@xiiibujinkan what does that even mean?
Skydio engineers having hard time to make their drones as good as Dji and now they want to kill the competition😵💫
The Congresswoman who is pushing this bill is rumored to be associated with an American Drone Company.
Who is that?
Skydio
@@Pilotin74Elise Stefanik (R) NY
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha!!!!!
Tell me you're an NPC without telling me you're an NPC. Her and the people that support her are anti-china, simple as that. They didn't need skydio to tell them that China was a threat and that drones entirely made by them could potentially be a threat. Blame the Ukrainian war.
The director of skydio used to be a national security advisor to Elise Stefanik… go figure
I trust DJI more than our congressmen and women😄
HAha. I trust Americans more than a Chinese company who is obligated to do anything their govt asks of them.
@@kayakuprising5914 nice, well brainwashed by media
@@kayakuprising5914trust a republican who is out of touch with reality. You really have drunk the kool aid.
That’s sad lol. Communism doesn’t work.
@@hkbcnwu944and you aren’t? Hahaha
Massive drone fly at Stefanik's house 2 AM?
See you there! 🤓🤘
Make sure they are all US drones though so they are more likely to crash into things.
Short version of my plan: never update my dji so it cant be bricked.
Same
You can still jailbreak the update
My plan is to confirm with others that new updates won't brick the drone before applying them.
I couldn't even take off my DJI FPV drone the other day without updating the remote ID.
@@NorthernKittysounds like a good plan.
When DJI is outlawed, only outlaws will fly DJI.
That the perfect slogan for DJI.
It would also be the coolest thing anyone has ever said about a drone pilot.
And I will be one, so that's the best drones out right now.
And I'm definitely gonna give a c*** What america thinks they can e** m*
Rather an outlaw than a sheep
I have a chance to speak with an Ohio congressman. Warren Davidson R. I'm definitely gonna bring up drones to him. How he should add the 3.8% or 300000 chinese products that use the internet or some kind of data to that ban as well. If he supports the dji ban. Hopefully, he at least will listen. Most politicians don't really know about things they want to ban. Like fully semi-automatic firearms. DUMB! Or they look scary! Just as an example.
Totally. Gonna have to ban my TV's remote control, too.
Studies have been done over the decades they won’t listen unless they benefit in some way. It’s all lip service.
Make sure to mention that Rep Stefanik is a paid advocate for Skydio, working to eliminate their competition.
The fact they don't even want to ground what's already here proves how not dangerous, but corrupt this is. And scared of a backdoor but what are those green lookalike drones in Texas? A front door?!
I think they are afraid of drones because if we have had enough of the Government's stuff. Drones are a great source of intel.
What if Chinese drones really are a security risk to the US? What if this is more about future technologies and not the current drones? What if this is really about trying to reduce the amount of US funding fueling Chinese drone development (which are very good)? It is already very easy to weaponize drones as we have seen over the last year. Shouldn’t we be willing to have an honest conversation about it?
in US is not call corruption but lobbing so all good, nothing to see
@@Brakes8377 WIth out DJI drones Ukraine would probably already lost the war
@@Brakes8377 They may be more worried about what us citizens can do with quality drones.. less what china is going to do with consumer drones that are already here.
Remote ID basically side lined me already. I used to fly 10 packs a week. I haven't flown 10 this year. I haven't quit but.... I let my 107 expire. I didn't make enough $$ on real estate BS to justify hundreds per drone for remote ID. I found things to do that don't involve flying. I still love the hobby. I will not comply. If I fly I won't show you here on TH-cam like I did. I've got 300+ videos not very good but I recorded it. I will be at Mindfield I will not comply. I might fly. I won't show you here probably. I might find an SD card on the ground and post that. I HATE ALMOST ALL POLITICIANS.
Renewal of your 107 is free & online. My older drones have Holystone RID modules on them, which cost me less than $95 each.
@@YellowRoseDronesthe fact you paid and do that says a lot …. Wow
@@LovesM855A1I'm a 107 pilot & my clients require me to be legal. End of story.
Jokes on you, I already have a stamp collection.
Since we are sharing opinions: Congress sees this as a "national security" issue. If the NDAA passes with the same language that we read in the House bill (HR-8070), it makes no sense that Congress would allow the existing products to keep their FCC approval.
Finally another adult in the room. 👍
Huawei was placed on the same list for "Security Reasons" a few years ago. Their existing FCC approvals were not cancelled.
@@DigitizedLife Hmm, in 2019 Congress provided $1.9 billion to the FCC for the agency to remove Huawei equipment from existing U.S. networks.
@@CousinSchultz And that's still not revoking licenses on existing products.
@@CDRaff Hmm, time will tell what happens, as it always does. I am personally hoping the language we see in HR-8070 does not make it into the final bill!
Edit:
I am still researching the current FCC equipment Authorization Rules. Back in 2022 there was this question: "Whether the Commission should revoke authorizations held by entities on the Covered List, and the procedure for revoking authorizations, if adopted." Back then, they did not revoke previous authorizations. Clearly they were looking into it though. I am not sure what the current state of the rules are, but am certainly trying to figure it out.
Edit II:
From what I can tell and in short, nowadays they can revoke existing authorizations once a company or product goes on the "covered list". Essentially, it is up to their discretion, but ultimately, they have the power and authority to do so. After additional research, I stand by my original comment.
The uncertainty itself is the chilling effect.
So is this
A. Ban of all dji products in the usa
Or
B. A ban on all businesses and government from using dji, but recreational is still okay.
I need a simple answer
It is a ban of all NEW DJI products in the USA.
I was pretty happy with my Holy Stone 720G but kept thinking about upgrading, they pushed the right button 2 days ago and I got a Mini 4 Pro before it was too late. I got the "smaller" batteries so it won't push location automatically. I will upgrade the batteries when I know it's "safe"
Don’t send more than 500 words to Stefanik . The email won’t go thru. I heard Stefanik is working with Skydio. What a blow to the progress of the drone industry from first responders to commercial and hobby fliers!!! Bummer.
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"I heArd sTefAnIk wAs wOrkiNg witH skYdio".
From who?
It's clear you're not paying attention to current events. This has nothing to do with skydio. Drones are something that is on the United States military's radar 24/7, even more so with the events in Ukraine. They didn't need a failed drone company (skydio) to convince them that China is a threat either.
@@DingleBerryschnapps Bravo! About 6 years ago Skydio had a drone they were marketing toward the hobbyist that had terrific ability to track a person on a bicycle through woods and around trees. It was about 20% to 30% more expensive than DJI, but great capabilities and USA made.
The last time I looked, Skydio was marketing to large companies and gov't agencies for thousands of dollars. They didn't seem to have much to offer the hobbyist or small business in a price range comparable to DJI. So, why would Skydio be trying to sabotage a company in a market they don't seem interested in?
@@DingleBerryschnapps HELLO? Joe Bartlett, states on his LinkedIn account he is “Directing of Federal Policy” at Skydio. (Translation: Lobbyist.)
He ALSO states he was National Security Advisor to Elise Stefanik for 5 years, 11 months ending January 2023.
This has EVERYTHING to do with Skydio!
@@BryanTorok I think they want to take over First Responder and large farming Drones. Stefanik agrees. How is my comment funny, by the way? 1 person takes away our rights and freedom of choice and you laugh? Keep laughing.
@@DingleBerryschnapps Well that’s what I heard. At least I know how capitalize my sentences.
I got 5 DJI drones and still fly 3 (air2s, mini 3 pro, mini 2) and I have a few analog fpv quads. I’ve been wanting so bad to build a cinewhoop with an air O3 module and grab a pair of DJI goggles but I’ve been scared it’s going to be banned and prevented from accessing communications. Well this video made me feel a little better! Thanks guys!
The Karens will have a new weapon. "You are flying a banned drone!"
Who is fighting for our cause? Why don't we have a national organization representing us. We had better do something and soon.
What if Chinese drones really are a security risk to the US? What if this is more about future technologies and not the current drones? What if this is really about trying to reduce the amount of US funding fueling Chinese drone development (which are very good)? It is already very easy to weaponize drones as we have seen over the last year. Shouldn’t we be willing to have an honest conversation about it?
@@Brakes8377Where’s the proof??? AINT NONE! Only evidence is people’s ignorance and fear mongering.
@@Brakes8377 Some people are worried about China using our drones to spy on people. That's the silliest thing I have ever heard. You can go to Google Earth and see everything you need. If that is not good enough you can buy a ticket on an airline and fly to the US as a tourist, travel around and take all the pictures you want.
Right now we have more problems with our Southern Open Borders that are letting God knows who into our country. I don't know why people are so worried about us taking our drones and going on vacation and fly around taking pictures.
Why are things made in Japan, Vietnam, and China is because the stock holders of these companies have demanded higher profits on their stock. They have cut everything there is to be cut. The only thing to cut is labor. China has a lot of 'cheap' labor.
DJI has done some marvelous things in producing a product that does things great. They are a leader in the drone industry.
@@Brakes8377 "Shouldn’t we be willing to have an honest conversation about it?" lolol... what politician is going to be honest? Oh right, none. What feelings driven screecher is going to be honest? None. Good luck with that honest conversation. The people who right these laws aren't honest about now or ever.
@@Brakes8377What if the Tooth Fairy is real and steals your teeth while you’re sleeping ? 😂
6:12 This is EXACTLY why DJI is being banned. They have remote access and are uploading huge amounts of data.
No they are wanting to ban drones because politicians don’t know better. They think that remote access is a thing.
Think about it, the phones we use EVERYDAY and take EVERYWHERE with us are made overseas. They can be used for remote access a lot easier.
Drone have no internet, they can’t send anything. They do nothing. You can use a phone without cell or internet service or an iPad with no cell service to fly a drone.
There is literally zero way anything from a drone can be uploaded remotely. It has to be connected to a device with internet.
Our phones have that built in, and can send stuff 24/7 but they are not trying to ban them are they?
You take a battery out of a drone to charge and it’s a paper weight.
What images can they possibly send anyway? It all depends on what the operator is flying over.
So someone on vacation at a lake follow boats? Yeah that is a real interest to China.
They can see the same thing on Instagram with better photos.
@@PTRRanger951 I have a Mavic mini, what do I use to see what the camera sees? My phone with an app on it?. How does DJI update their bios and the like? How many times have you heard a DJI owner say they are grounded till they update their system? How does the drone update? You hook it up to the computer. Ukraine has stopped using DJI drones because they transmit their location, destination and origin. Please do disagree with me but do your homework first.
@@repalmore guess you can’t read. You don’t need internet to fly the drone. If your phone is connected to the internet THEN it knows it needs an update. It doesn’t know if you don’t have service. Explain to me how I can fly my drone on a tablet with no internet connection. Oh yeah, you don’t need internet to fly it.
Might want to do your own research, or actually read what I said.
You DONT need internet to fly.
And if you think they stopped using drones, that’s funny.
You can turn off the cellular data to your phone and turn the app on and it will work just fine.
But that’s the point isn’t it? What are the odds you would be flying over someone another country wants to see? It’s not going to happen. But you already have a phone in your pocket with a camera, with a mic and with its own cellular data, that is on more often than a drone yet drones are the issue?
Get over yourself. It has nothing to do with spying. We have houses with security systems made in China, we have cars with cellular data with cameras, we have phones. But drones that may fly for 15 minutes at a time over nothing anything cares about are a threat? How? What can a drone possibly show that can’t be seen using a simple internet search or looking at a sat photo? Or sending someone to look for themselves?
The drone operator needs to be in the exact area, at the exact time, flying over the exact thing another country wants to look at.
@@PTRRanger951 I support you. There's no need to argue with people who don't understand anything. They're no different from stupid congressmen
@@repalmore If a drone transmits location, destination (?) and origin, then that's because your government wanted drones to have Remote ID. Now all of a sudden it is DJI spying on a naked tree you film from above with your Mavic Mini of mass destruction?
If the ban pass you will become a vintage drone channel
Ken let the man talk, you keep interrupting and adding to the confusion! Jeez!!!
Ken, let the man talk lol. you keep interrupting him.
Facts 😂
Ken is an annoying person.
From flying within feet of people's heads, diving buildings over cars. Yeah he's obnoxious. This is just an extension of that.
It's Ken's friggin show!
@@kayakuprising5914 let the guest speak
@@DingleBerryschnappsthen why do you keep coming back? That’s just as annoying.
It's very difficult For United States companies that are profit-oriented towards share owners to beat DJI. Because DJI is a private company.
Where the owner and CEO Wang does not hesitate to use 90% of the company's profits for innovation and technological development .
No such thing as a private company under communism.
First banned video I watched completely. You guys are very entertaining. Thanks for making me feel better. I just got back my repaired Mavic Pro Plat from DJI. And, I stopped buying accessories for my new Avata 2.👍
1. Politics, 2. Money 3. Safety. Feel free to interchange 1 and 2. Game over before reaching 3rd base sometimes. Kind of like, as referenced in this presentation, the “cart before the horse”.
I’m a new dji drone owner. I have been following u KH for about 2 years now, and finally saved some $$ for a drone. Thank you for having a discussion on this topic. I was curious, not panicking but concerned since I just got the drone and new to the hobby. 👍🏻 typical politicians looking out for our safety and good interest (sarc) I’m curious how many of those politicians invested in new drone US companies 🤔
Congratulations on the new drone! Yes, unfortunately most lawmakers know little to nothing about a lot of things they pack into bills.
Happy flying!
Perhaps Congress should be more worried about volnerabilities in voting machines instead of a damn toy
They are the ones who are exploiting those vulnerabilities. It's by design
Yes, and the spy baroons too
Learn to build, solder and fly BetaFlight or iNAV. Bitching at Congress won’t help but expanding your Open Source skills will. ❤
Not the title i wanted to see!
The title for clicks
I was hypnotised by the background video - Geeessh and now I need to watch the video again to hear what you guys just said 🙂
Tariffs do work, it does allow US companies to compete with countries who thrive on really cheap labor. But when unions get involved along with "minimum wage" increases, it drives the cost of US manufacturing up even higher.
I wanted to share my perspective on the current discussions regarding the potential ban on Chinese drones in the U.S. It seems to me that this ban does not truly reflect a genuine concern from the U.S. government about Chinese drones. Rather, implementing such a ban would eliminate approximately 90% of recreational drones sold in the U.S., significantly reducing the number of drones flown in this country.
Additionally, it's worth noting that the momentum for this ban only started to build after SkyDio's exit from the consumer drone market. This timing seems more than coincidental and suggests that other factors may be influencing the narrative.
I believe it is crucial for us to address this issue from this perspective in our messaging. Your insights and support in this matter would be highly valued.
Best regards,
Lead Coordinator & Remote Pilot Trainer, Syosset Fire Department
I'm gonna take what you guys said, keep flying, have fun and not watch any of those pessimistic videos out there. 👍
Ken you are right, so many people are happiest when they feel the sky is falling!
He's not.
@@DingleBerryschnapps - And I should trust a DingleBerry? 😂🤣😂🤣
If DJI was a big problem then why have these not been banned long ago? It is sad that there is not a company in the US that can compete head to head in this market.
"we rented a unicorn" hahahaha - great show guys, thanks for bringing some comfort to my out-of-control DJI habit.
You bet!
Get out there and have fun. 🤓👍
As long as we still allow insider trading among politicians...DJI will be a "Security threat" ...please ignore those weather balloons overhead...they're harmless... RE: Ford.... The chip shortage doesn't anything to do with people not having $100k for a vehicle anymore....
I sold all my Dji drones a few months ago the only thing I have left is the osmo action camera!😎👍
It's watching you...... 😂
Noo...
thank you for the video
and I just want to tell you that I Live in a middle eastern country and I have a autel evo max 4t and it has just bin blockd by autel because my country is in war, and I am wondering if this is a measure that was done by autel to show the world that they are an innocent company that will do anything they're told so that they don't get banned in countries like the US ?
I guess I'll never give up my DJI Mini II SE and buy some more stuff for it before this goes into effect.
Me too !
Tariffs do punish the Chinese as well. Tariffs raise the price and likely fewer will be purchased. Thus, the Chinese will make less profit.
I do think it is ridiculous that it will be in the NDAA to ban anything from civilians.
This channels insanely underrated, thanks for the info.
I appreciate that!
There is a story behind this no doubt, I think someone in power has the next DJI company ready to launch to take over the market after DJI is out
I guess the other question is... IF DJI ends up becoming the Huawei in the US, whats the alternative in terms of brands? It always seemed that DJI had the partial monopoly on Drone sales and production across the globe.
In all likelihood, if the ban is passed it'll be similar to what they proposed with TikTok where they make DJI sell their US distribution to some American subsidiary company and operate like that and the consumers will not really see any noticiable difference in anything other than maybe a line of text on the box.
So does that mean with the DJI Care Program I bought for my Avata, I won't be able to get a replacement if/when I do crash?
This won't affect that
@@KenHeron Well Awe-RIGHT! :)
Here in the UK. I have just bought the new DJi Mini 4 Pro Flymore. Also have two Mini 1 and a Phantom 3 Pro. Had an Inspire 2 X5S but sold it as it was overkill for shooting weddings. Not banning me.
How mush you charge for a wedding
The thumbnail alone caused chaos in the drone community! 😂 great video. I completely agree. I’m gonna keep flying until they brick them. Thanks for your input Ryan.
Is anyone going to just suddenly stop flying DJI? I think not
I have considered working on my own drone made entirely in the US, but I'm still a broke high schooler with absolutely no way to print mold or make any of the cameras and sensors that I would need. I've also got some software engineering skills to design the software.
Start a stamp collection if you want. Not me! My buddy Bert, and me are startin' a paper clip collection. Not just any paper clip collection, though.....a "Made in China" paper clip collection!
The gooberment loves stamp collectors because they sell those little pieces of paper and never have to provide the service. Why do you think they promote stamp collecting so much?
I'm new to drone stuff and need to get one for business, but I'm wondering: even if i can buy a dji drone now, or even later in the year, won't i have trouble registering it for use with part 107 after the ban takes place? Or renewing the registration in years to come?
You won't have any problems. Go ahead and buy your drone. I doubt anything will happen with this, but if it does it won't happen for years.
DJI makes such solid, well built, drones and flying experiences - no other (that I am aware of) complete options available for consumer/pro-sumer flyers. I've grown to trust the hardware and software to do what I expect and want it to do - both safely and effectively. Drones, action cameras, gimbals - they make solid systems. May not be doom-and-gloom but it sure is a bummer.
It's not a blanket ban just a import ban that means the new stuff dji comes out with they can't bring it into the US and the fcc won't allow new authorizations
@@skeetermcg1 Yes, very true - my statement still stands that it is a bummer (maybe not a current bummer, but a future one when DJI comes out with their next iterations of their drones, action cameras, microphones and gimbals)
Likely DJI would release and update ensuring any geofencing or such would be easily unlocked if a ban did occur on previous items. If not the community will provide.
22:43 is this the equivalent of Cuban cigar bans? Argghggggg!!!!
Don't let the gobberment get ya down! I do love that thumbnail ❤
HAAA!
Da gubmint.🤣
What about all mobile devices that transmit data ?? Mobile phones can hear your darkest secrets and fb I always listening ( china too )
*is
Great video, and Ryan did a wonderful job of explaining what's going on with this drone bill. I'm also holding out hope that some of this gets shot down before the bill is signed into law. Thanks for sharing, Ken.
Glad to help clarify, Ron!
I am part of the fpv group and i have a digital quad but i prefer my analog for my flying i stocked up on the parts needed to keep building or repairing my analog quads. I just feel more comfortable plus i dont have any of the gps junk or etc which is nice, i have a dji mavic mini isk which number but it the newer one but i use it mainy to let the wife fly and practice when we are out or ill use it for some slow video capture but i prefer my gopro ans analog quad😅❤❤❤ oh and yeah we have plenty of work arounds if needed for fpv😅❤
Didn't hear a word you guys said I just love watching the fpv drone videos.... lol😁
Sub-250 gram drones here in Canada do NOT require either I.D or registration. 250 gram to 25 kg do however (unless flown "indoors"). Is your U.S. Part-107 licensing not similar in that regard? And bye-the-way, for a non-Canadian resident to fly here in Canada even if you have a U.S. part-107 requires an SFOC authorization from Transport Canada. (Special Flight Operations Certificate). This HOBBY is becoming more and more difficult to be compliant both in the U.S. and in Canada. Greetings from Ontario, Canada.
How come they are not banning iPhones because they are made in China. They have WiFi, take pictures and videos and have microphones. Also none removable batteries.
The ban is for DJI… Huawei was the subject of the cell phone ban and HikVision was the subject for the security camera ban. DJI is a clandestine branch of the CCP military (MSS/PLA) and that is why they are under scrutiny. This is about war not silly little drones.
If the act passes, it could restrict the use of DJI drones for commercial purposes, especially for government contracts or sensitive applications
They already have.
And so the government can go back to the Stone Age.
Time for a Revolution!!!
Long past time.
I was ready to purchase my first drone and have put it off because of this bill. Should I still go ahead with buying one because it will be grandfathered in? Or I am taking a risk of spending money on something I might not be able to use in the future?
Buy now
What are the security concerns for DJI and what about Google Earth?
All my DJI thingies were lost in a boat accident with my guns.....
The government will have to do a buyback if they ever went through with this.
Ken went into full berzerker mode. It was cool
Will DJI still be able to import new stock of models that have been certified already? E.g. the Avata 2 was approved before the bill, will Avata 2's be able to be imported after the bill passes?
Tariffs.
Thanks for this Ken. Much appreciated!
So in USA. If the Ban kicks in. Its for R&D projects not yet releeased.
All existing drones (Mini, Air, Mavric, Avarta and Inspire) available are already have FCC approval etc you can still fly and buy.
It might mean the only dromes we can ever buy is those drones. Until this bill gets challenged or revisisted.
So if the original air units vistas and 03s already received their FCC certification does that mean we will be able to continue to buy them..
I sold my stamp collection to buy a drone🤣
All those drone operators that are heading for the hills, please forward all unwanted DJI drones & equipment to me😀
RTFO!!!🤘
I will sell you my drone if you really want it.
We will not be stopped 🏴☠️🏴☠️
When I was a kid we had to swap crystals into relievers to change freq. Worst case it'll go back to that
so since NDAA is a yearly renewed package, we may find that with enough input to our representatives, we might see it reversed or revoked at some point ?
If this ban goes through, Skydio will make themselves the most hated drone company in the world. And it will come back to haunt them 😏
Yuuup.
Skydio isn't the one lobbying for this. America is going through an imperialist crisis, It wants to maintain its "rules based order" against China and Russia and therefore is trying to carve up the world into 2 blocs. One which is led by them and one which is completely U.S dominated. If the U.S cannot compete with China then it will opt for complete bans to protect whatever is left of U.S industry even if it means causing economic pain and disruptions.
I follow the wait and see approach on this not to panic. But I also send in (several times) my opposition to this bill. This is just about the money not a security issue DJI made this happen by removing the flight logs being transmitted back to them. Joe Bartlett, current Director of Federal Policy at Skydio and former National Security Advisor to none other than Congresswoman Elise Stefanik.
I keep checking the Congress website and it doesn’t show that the bill has been passed. It just shows as being introduced.
I keep checking too
Ken, if DJI shuts down their App, would we still be able to fly those drones with the current 3rd-party Apps?
They won't shut down the app.
@@KenHeron I agree, but what I meant to ask is the 2-3 somewhat popular 3rd party apps that you can use to fly a number of different DJI drones with - would they continue to work “if” DJI app was some how banned ( like those congressional morons are trying to do with the TikTok app ( which I don’t use anyways)?
The government become your nanny that ‘dictate’ which toy you should be flying.
Look on the bright side, when all the DJI drones have been cleared off the shelves in the USA at least you'll still have the likes of 'the egg' drone and that can shaped one that folds up, you remember the one you smashed up, you liked it so much!😲😳
Ok the footage won't be so 'buttery smooth' but I'm sure with a little 'real steady pro' magic and some colour correction, you'll have something vaguely watchable?🤔😊
Rep. Elise Stefanik is personally going to benefit from the DJI ban. It's her bill because she has investments in Skydio. Too bad, because I used to like her...
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I got nervous just watching the fly-through of those roadside structures!
Ken, I can’t believe you’re exploiting unicorns! Unicorns are a rare treasure. Their presence creates rainbows and their poop nourishes the world.
Sasquatches were too expensive and are really in demand this time of year in Oregon. So I had to go with the unicorns.
The remote ID the only way I’m aware of to track you is to use an App and it looks for you using 3 signals and 2 of them are not seen on IOS devices so just about everyone has a Ap that don’t see you I’m sure there is a device that watches air space but you have to be close and who’s gonna get one unless they have issues with illegal flights If you have a android and the app and your close you can certainly be seen but that narrows it down .
Bro is 2 hot dogs away from a heart attack
During cold war USSR had all kind off trade barriers and bans ,you know how that ended,Now USA has all kind off trade barriers and bans and keep growing every day
I actually contacged dji 2 times today and was told that its only a ban for anything after the ban prior drones will work
People from USA who donated DJIs to Ukraine will want their drones back
If you have a ham radio license you don't need the Drone to be FCC compliant
That makes no sense
@@couchpotatoes5158 just like analog video transmitters
I’m an Amateur Extra. A HAM license means you have no excuse for not being FCC compliant. HAM’s and HAM operations are absolutely required to be compliant with all FCC regulations.
I had an update to my firmware today and thought the same thing.... will I be able to fly this thing (DJI mini 2 se) when it's done? I already have to worried about Kens & Karens and law enforcement who are uninformed, I dont need the added pressure of anyone with a heartbeat, if it came down to that I would just land it and keep it landed, I only have about $500 invested, I feel sorry for those who have thousands. Hope it never comes to that. The director of skydio used to be a national security advisor to Elise Stefanik...corruption at its finest! Guys, thank you for keeping us informed on this! and Ken, did I see you back down to a challenge at 10:20 into the video?
Does anyone really believe my crappy drone footage of some empty landscapes is more of a national security risk than the Chinese satellite passing over the country getting high res photos down to blades of grass?
If we can keep flying our current drones after a ban, and it's later determined that there is no security threat, would you suppose we'd be able to purchase later models?
I tried to look up this document and actually read it....OMG....who writes this stuff??? If anyone out there is suffering from insomnia, I got a sure fire cure for you....start reading this document....😵💫😵🥴
I am in the community and I love flying drones. Like you said in your video, I’m one of those people that has been planning on getting into flying drones commercially. I am enrolled in Pilot Institute taking part 107 and mapping course. I had high hopes, and was literally looking over the price of the Mavic 3T to purchase for commercial use when I heard about this bill. Now I am uncertain, if that would be a wise choice to make such a huge investment. In your opinion, should I look at American drones to purchase instead. They are more than twice the price 🤦🏼♂️
Buy whatever drone you feel would be best for your business. Whatever happens, it won't happen for 3 years if at all.
@@KenHeron thank you! Your input is much appreciated!
Easily overcome. The USSC just obviated Chevron. Same thing the ATF is struggling with
I haven't flown my Mavic Mini is close to a year. I expect that it won't fly unless I update it. I think the last time I tried to fly it, it wouldn't work until I updated it.
The panic is because the bill is going to a bunch of people who don't even know how to open up an email.
So true