Sorry for the confusion! I should have made it more clear that there are many breeds of domestic turkey, the same way there are many breeds of domestic dogs. The main commercial breeds like Broad-breasted White Turkeys are bred to have minimal pigmentation and maximum muscle tissue. The other breeds, like yours, are between the two extremes. Thanks for watching!
Hi again, Indy! Thanks for having already shared the relevant information. :) I don't know much about different taxonomic systems, but which taxonomic list is this?
I am so happy to have you around, Praetorian Rex. That is a curious combination of words. The answer is one my high school biology teacher gave us for bluffing our way through essay questions, which is to write, "Phylogeny recapitulates ontogeny." But as to what it could really be... it sounds dangerous. I'm imagining an animal with a variable number of limbs and organs. Like an annelid worm, with the different segments? Oh, or sponges, which are pretty improvised. Is this a real biology term?
@@BioBush it's something that I came up with as a more realistic alternative to "mutations " used in context of animals becoming more monstrous versions of themselves due to genetic changes.
@@praetorianrex5571 I see where you're going with this. Yeah! Like a chicken is a really, really monstrous version of a dinosaur. So the really consistent lineages of animals like crocodiles have seen some monstrous changes in others. Doesn't stop them from eating, though. :)
Actually, there are three extant species of turkey, the Ocellated Turkey (Agriocharis ocellata), the Mexican Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo), and the American Turkey (Meleagris intermedia).
Hi Indy! I would like to learn more. I'm finding six subspecies of Wild Turkey, including a Mexican and Intermedia subspecies. That was new information to me, so thanks for teaching me something new. Are some of those subspecies on their way to full species?
There are three subspecies of Mexican Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo) being the the Gould's Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo mexicana), the South Mexican Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo gallopavo), and the Domestic Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo domesticus) and the American Turkey (Meleagris intermedia) contains four subspecies being the Eastern American Turkey (Meleagris intermedia silvestris), the Florida Turkey (Meleagris intermedia osceola), the Rio Grande Turkey (Meleagris intermedia intermedia), and the Merriam's Turkey (Meleagris intermedia merriami).
I find it shocking how many people don't think turkey fly or find it a suprise to hear they roost in trees, I guess most people don't really think wild and domestic turkeys are different.
I didn't want to focus on how domesticated turkeys are unable to do many turkey things. Like fly. But yeah, we have created a creature that cannot survive without human intervention. On a positive note, Ocellated Turkeys are beautiful! Thanks for watching again, Backyard Expeditions!
Those dangling feathers are for display. There's this interesting phenomenon that happens with traits like that where a genetically based trait in males and a genetically based preference in females end up reinforcing each other. Females with a preference breed with males with the trait, and the population gradually shows more of the trait AND more of the preference. I think this is what happened with the wire feathers on turkeys. Thanks for taking the time to learn about birds!
That's awesome, Syed! Yeah, birds don't read our textbooks about them, so they do whatever works. Domestic turkeys can usually do bursts of flight, then come back to the ground. Wild turkeys can fly short distances and roost in trees. So maybe it's a matter of degree. I'm glad you give the turkey a chance to fly. Thank you for watching!
Hi Steve, by a strange coincidence, I saw a small flock of Wild Turkeys this morning at the Colusa National Wildlife Reserve, which is north and slightly west of Sacramento. This time of year Colusa NWR is mostly all about geese and ducks, specifically Greater White-fronted, Snow, and Ross’s plus Northern Shoveler, Northern Pintail, and American Wigeon in the hundreds of thousands. It was seriously loud! The turkeys were a nice addition and offset to the millions and millions of waterfowl that fill the refuge. I love that you can get them to gobble by gobbling at them.
Wow, what an amazing experience! I grew up in San Diego and had no idea there were such sights anywhere in California. Nor did I know that you can cause turkeys to gobble. I'm glad you get to see such amazing sights!
Hi Kamote! I would say the vast majority of turkeys alive are white, because there are more farmed turkeys than wild turkeys. But I get what you mean. :) Thanks for watching!
Hi Loring! Thanks for watching! Ocellated turkeys are a different species of turkey - Meleagris ocellata instead of Meleagris gallopavo. They have a really different and beautiful feather pattern. They also are native to a different part of the world. Domesticated turkeys are white and heavy due to selective breeding. Do you have additional information you would like to share about turkeys?
Turkey Fanclub! That's such a fun thing, and I'm honored that you stopped by. I try to make a video about Turkeys every year around November, so stop by then for more Turkey fun!
IM super confused now. My Bulma is a Spanish domestic, super sweet and cuddly, butnshes a dark color..... I just wanted to know what her sounds mean.
Sorry for the confusion! I should have made it more clear that there are many breeds of domestic turkey, the same way there are many breeds of domestic dogs. The main commercial breeds like Broad-breasted White Turkeys are bred to have minimal pigmentation and maximum muscle tissue. The other breeds, like yours, are between the two extremes. Thanks for watching!
Interesting 🙏❤️
Glad you liked it! There is so much out there to learn about birds. Thank you for watching!
Here's a classification of gamebirds (order Galliformes) that belong to the family Tetraonidae
Taxonomy:
• Family: Tetraonidae (Grouse, Turkeys, and Koklass Pheasants)
•• Subfamily: Pucrasiinae (Koklass Pheasants and Fossil Relatives)
••• Genus: Pucrasia (Koklass Pheasants)
•••• Species: Pucrasia nipalensis (Northern Koklass Pheasant)
•••• Species: Pucrasia macrolopha (Southern Koklass Pheasant)
•• Subfamily: Meleagridinae (Turkeys)
••• Genus: Agriocharis (Ocellated Turkey and Fossil Relatives)
•••• Species: Agriocharis ocellata (Ocellated Turkey)
••• Genus: Meleagris (Common Turkeys)
•••• Species: Meleagris intermedia (American Turkey)
•••• Species: Meleagris gallopavo (Mexican Turkey)
•• Subfamily: Tetraoninae (Grouse)
••• Tribe: Centrocercini (New World Grouse)
•••• Subtribe: Canachitina (Lesser New World Grouse)
••••• Genus: Bonasa (Ruffed Grouse)
•••••• Species: Bonasa umbellus (Ruffed Grouse)
••••• Genus: Canachites (Spurce Grouse)
•••••• Species: Canachites canadensis (Canada Grouse)
•••••• Species: Canachites franklinii (Franklin's Grouse)
•••• Subtribe: Centrocercina (Greater New World Grouse)
••••• Genus: Pedioectes (Sharp-Tailed Grouse)
•••••• Species: Pedioectes phasianellus (Sharp-Tailed Grouse)
••••• Genus: Dendragapus (Dusky Grouse and Sooty Grouse)
•••••• Species: Dendragapus obscurus (Dusky Grouse)
•••••• Species: Dendragapus fuliginosus (Sooty Grouse)
••••• Genus: Tympanuchus (Prairie Chickens)
•••••• Species: Tympanuchus attwateri (Attwater's Prairie Chicken)
•••••• Species: Tympanuchus pallidicinctus (Lesser Prairie Chicken)
•••••• Species: Tympanuchus pinnatus (Greater Prairie Chicken)
••••• Genus: Centrocercus (Sage Grouse)
•••••• Species: Centrocercus urophasianus (Greater Sage Grouse)
•••••• Species: Centrocercus minimus (Lesser Sage Grouse)
••• Tribe: Tetraonini (Old World Grouse)
•••• Subtribe: Lagopodina (Lesser Old World Grouse)
••••• Genus: Tetrastes (Hazel Grouse and Chinese Grouse)
•••••• Species: Tetrastes bonasia (Hazel Grouse)
•••••• Species: Tetrastes sewerzowi (Chinese Grouse)
••••• Genus: Falcipennis (Siberian Grouse)
•••••• Species: Falcipennis falcipennis (Siberian Grouse)
••••• Genus: Ortygoperdix (Red Grouse)
•••••• Species: Ortygoperdix scotica (Red Grouse)
••••• Genus: Lagopus (Ptarmigans)
•••••• Species: Lagopus leucura (White-Tailed Ptarmigan)
•••••• Species: Lagopus muta (Rock Ptarmigan)
•••••• Species: Lagopus lagopus (Willow Ptarmigan)
•••• Subtribe: Tetraonina (Greater Old World Grouse)
••••• Genus: Lyrurus (Black Grouse)
•••••• Species: Lyrurus mlokosiewiczi (Caucasian Black Grouse)
•••••• Species: Lyrurus tetrix (Northern Black Grouse)
••••• Genus: Tetrao (Capercaillies)
•••••• Species: Tetrao urogalloides (Eastern Capercaillie)
•••••• Species: Tetrao urogallus (Western Capercaillie)
Hi again, Indy! Thanks for having already shared the relevant information. :) I don't know much about different taxonomic systems, but which taxonomic list is this?
I have a question; what do you think of when you hear the words "improvised ontogeny " ?
I am so happy to have you around, Praetorian Rex. That is a curious combination of words.
The answer is one my high school biology teacher gave us for bluffing our way through essay questions, which is to write, "Phylogeny recapitulates ontogeny."
But as to what it could really be... it sounds dangerous. I'm imagining an animal with a variable number of limbs and organs. Like an annelid worm, with the different segments? Oh, or sponges, which are pretty improvised. Is this a real biology term?
@@BioBush it's something that I came up with as a more realistic alternative to "mutations " used in context of animals becoming more monstrous versions of themselves due to genetic changes.
@@praetorianrex5571 I see where you're going with this. Yeah! Like a chicken is a really, really monstrous version of a dinosaur. So the really consistent lineages of animals like crocodiles have seen some monstrous changes in others. Doesn't stop them from eating, though. :)
Actually, there are three extant species of turkey, the Ocellated Turkey (Agriocharis ocellata), the Mexican Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo), and the American Turkey (Meleagris intermedia).
Hi Indy! I would like to learn more. I'm finding six subspecies of Wild Turkey, including a Mexican and Intermedia subspecies. That was new information to me, so thanks for teaching me something new. Are some of those subspecies on their way to full species?
There are three subspecies of Mexican Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo) being the the Gould's Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo mexicana), the South Mexican Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo gallopavo), and the Domestic Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo domesticus) and the American Turkey (Meleagris intermedia) contains four subspecies being the Eastern American Turkey (Meleagris intermedia silvestris), the Florida Turkey (Meleagris intermedia osceola), the Rio Grande Turkey (Meleagris intermedia intermedia), and the Merriam's Turkey (Meleagris intermedia merriami).
I didn’t know the ocellated turkey existed! Really pretty bird!
Right? It's like a palette swap from a normal turkey. I was also excited to learn of its existence. Thanks for watching again, Grace!
I find it shocking how many people don't think turkey fly or find it a suprise to hear they roost in trees, I guess most people don't really think wild and domestic turkeys are different.
I didn't want to focus on how domesticated turkeys are unable to do many turkey things. Like fly. But yeah, we have created a creature that cannot survive without human intervention. On a positive note, Ocellated Turkeys are beautiful! Thanks for watching again, Backyard Expeditions!
@@BioBush aren't they.
Yeah you handled wild vs domestic very tastefully.
I've only seen one wild turkey in my life. They just aren't something city people see. I have to admit I just learned that wild turkeys can fly.
Why dose turkeys 🦃 have wire fetchers
Those dangling feathers are for display. There's this interesting phenomenon that happens with traits like that where a genetically based trait in males and a genetically based preference in females end up reinforcing each other. Females with a preference breed with males with the trait, and the population gradually shows more of the trait AND more of the preference. I think this is what happened with the wire feathers on turkeys. Thanks for taking the time to learn about birds!
Can you make a video about bird nests please
Yeah, that's a good video idea! I'll put it on the schedule (though it might be a while before it comes out). Thanks, Elijah!
Happy thanksgiving!
But my turkey can fly he is domestic
That's awesome, Syed! Yeah, birds don't read our textbooks about them, so they do whatever works. Domestic turkeys can usually do bursts of flight, then come back to the ground. Wild turkeys can fly short distances and roost in trees. So maybe it's a matter of degree. I'm glad you give the turkey a chance to fly. Thank you for watching!
Hi Steve, by a strange coincidence, I saw a small flock of Wild Turkeys this morning at the Colusa National Wildlife Reserve, which is north and slightly west of Sacramento. This time of year Colusa NWR is mostly all about geese and ducks, specifically Greater White-fronted, Snow, and Ross’s plus Northern Shoveler, Northern Pintail, and American Wigeon in the hundreds of thousands. It was seriously loud! The turkeys were a nice addition and offset to the millions and millions of waterfowl that fill the refuge. I love that you can get them to gobble by gobbling at them.
Wow, what an amazing experience! I grew up in San Diego and had no idea there were such sights anywhere in California. Nor did I know that you can cause turkeys to gobble. I'm glad you get to see such amazing sights!
wow there are white turkeys 😱
Hi Kamote! I would say the vast majority of turkeys alive are white, because there are more farmed turkeys than wild turkeys. But I get what you mean. :) Thanks for watching!
What is an occilated turkey?
why are most domesticated turk white and so heavy - NOT very accurate info.
Hi Loring! Thanks for watching! Ocellated turkeys are a different species of turkey - Meleagris ocellata instead of Meleagris gallopavo. They have a really different and beautiful feather pattern. They also are native to a different part of the world.
Domesticated turkeys are white and heavy due to selective breeding. Do you have additional information you would like to share about turkeys?
LOTS OF ERRORS IN INFORMATIIN HERE.0
Hi Loring! I am always open to learning new information if you have something specific to teach. Thanks for watching!
Greetings from the 1 Turkey Fanclub
Turkey Fanclub! That's such a fun thing, and I'm honored that you stopped by. I try to make a video about Turkeys every year around November, so stop by then for more Turkey fun!
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