The Right Way to Read Chess Books - IM Andras Toth

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  • @RobertKaucher
    @RobertKaucher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I love the Chessable course on the center. "When chess is played well, it is played in the centah!"

    • @bethechange2024
      @bethechange2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Seize the centre. Seize...the centre." I hear Andras' voice from his courses on my shoulder all the time while I am studying and applying. I can effortlessly listen to him for hours on end, so engrossing is his approach to me. ❤

  • @FuzzStockDad
    @FuzzStockDad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Andras is amazing. Tells it like it is, tells you what you need to hear and not what you want to hear or sugar coat anything. Just good pure instruction. Love his content

  • @ChessWithMouselip
    @ChessWithMouselip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    When I was young I had lots of time and few books. As an adult I have lots of books and little time to read them. Catch-22.

  • @JulioVelezz
    @JulioVelezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Some annotated game collection books that I discovered through some research
    - Logical chess: move by move
    - A first book of Morphy
    - World's most instructive amateur game book
    - The game of chess
    - Chess: The art of logical thinking: from the first move to the last
    - Strategic chess: mastering the closed game
    - The most instructive games of chess ever played: 62 masterpieces of chess strategy
    - 50 essential chess lessons
    - Best lessons of a chess coach
    - Winning Chess Brilliancies
    - Chess master vs chess amateur
    - Instructive chess miniatures
    - The road to chess improvement
    - Modern chess move by move
    - Understanding chess move by move
    - Secrets of modern chess strategy

    • @perpetualchesspodcast9143
      @perpetualchesspodcast9143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great list J! In addition to the ones Andras mentioned, which are on the advanced side, I’d also add “Masters of the Chessboard” by Reti and Chess secrets: The Giants of Strategy” by GM Neal McDonald

    • @JulioVelezz
      @JulioVelezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, thank you for the recommendations.

    • @mahernoz
      @mahernoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the real list!

    • @Memorex996
      @Memorex996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      60 Memorable Games by Bobby Fischer

  • @tommarcoen6758
    @tommarcoen6758 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We love you, Andras! Keep up the good work!

  • @matzleeach
    @matzleeach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In practicing/ studying for improvement in any field, comprehension and repetition increases that particular skill set.
    Dealing with studying chess from reading books, you have to read/study to the point that the material learned can easily be recalled in your mind.
    You should study one book excessively, before moving on to the second book, once you study the 2nd book, reread the first book. Then read a new book. Once the new book is read, go back and reread the last previous books. Repeat the method when adding new books to study.
    You can applied this method when studying one book by reading/studying chapters within the same book.
    Read chapter 1, the chapter 2, reread chapter 1, read chapter 3, reread chapter 2, read chapter 4, reread chapter 3 etc.
    This is a method I developed and I find it rewarding.

    • @snuppl512
      @snuppl512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is so confusing man, honestly

  • @RobertKaucher
    @RobertKaucher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There is the concept of context-dependent memory where better recall of memories occurs when the "context present at encoding and retrieval are the same." If you are training for over-the-board chess, you need to train with a board at least in part. If you only ever intend on playing chess online, screens are fine. I think when people talk about the 3D nature of a real board throwing them off, that what they are really experiencing is context-dependent memories.

    • @ChessWithMouselip
      @ChessWithMouselip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      When I started reading chess books I started seeing positions in my head in diagram form. After that when I am imagining a position I seem to visualize it as a diagram. Still, I have the original 3d board experience to fall back on. I think it is important for a player who plans to play OTB to have the tactile experience of playing on a nice tournament sized set.
      Even then, I think it is even better to play on a nice wooden set with a properly sized wooden board. There is nothing like the touch and feel of playing a serious game on a nice wooden tournament set.

    • @ksowderful
      @ksowderful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very good insight

  • @2Oldcoots
    @2Oldcoots 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Andras, Thank You for the wonderful content....Value Added in the Extreme!!!

  • @JohnS-il1dr
    @JohnS-il1dr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the House of Young Pioneers in former soviet union the students had very little books but had access to trainers and thats the bulk of their chess education.

  • @BlackGirlInfoTech
    @BlackGirlInfoTech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful video! Just purchases these books!

    • @seanobrien2306
      @seanobrien2306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Fee..., One question: #1) "All of them..., including the list above in comments ?" If you did..., "Congrats ! !" Mike :)

  • @xiaoguangyang7917
    @xiaoguangyang7917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, I have too many books to learn. Like andras advice, working on endgame only still have a couple of awesome endgame books to pick order

  • @RealityCheck1
    @RealityCheck1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it really depends on the person. The book has to fit the person's learning ability. I am more on the theoretical side & "My System & Praxis" is making a big difference in how I perform over the chess board. I am kind of different in that I prefer the top-down approach to learning something as opposed to learning the times table. Theory enables me to connect multiple ideas easily.

  • @JulioVelezz
    @JulioVelezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great discussion. It looks like as long as you implement active recall, spaced repetition and interleaving you should be good.

  • @Kubooxooki
    @Kubooxooki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very insightful and helpful. Thank you both!

  • @luisayala9301
    @luisayala9301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just by listening to him, his passion for books spreads to me. I remember a book recommendation and what we had to look for in them. That video impacted me. Congratulations and greetings to all of you. PS. I don't remember the video but the book is called Dynamics of chess strategy by vlastimil Jansa

  • @Vague2121
    @Vague2121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need a part 2.

  • @carlos202068
    @carlos202068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andras is great!

  • @robertovalenzuela3092
    @robertovalenzuela3092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use chess database to create opening theory table in analyzing games instead of using general opening books lik ECO, NCO or MCO.

    • @hagnuj1070
      @hagnuj1070 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      NCO is extremely outdated. For example none of Giri's Najdorf lines are in it.

    • @robertovalenzuela3092
      @robertovalenzuela3092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hagnuj1070 You are correct sir.
      That is the reason why I am using Caissabase that is updated by TWIC per week. I use SCID to create chess opening table.

  • @scottintexas
    @scottintexas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chessable looks great, but way overpriced, even on sale. I guess if you are wealthy and really good, Chessable is for you. For most of us, buy a $20 book, a $50 computer chess board, and watch the endless number of free videos on YT, many of which are excellent!

    • @JD-td8kl
      @JD-td8kl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What computer chees board would you recommend?

    • @turul9392
      @turul9392 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Watching IM Rosen streaming rapid games (not Blitz!) is extremely instructive. Oh no, my queen!

  • @johnphamlore8073
    @johnphamlore8073 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still think Judit Polgar would have had a shot to be the open world champion if she had just had the coaching to give her the opening repertoire of a universal player like Carlsen. She actually has / had a wonderful positional sense in addition to her tactical abilities -- there is no reason Judit could not have played any opening tailored to opponent and circumstances, possibly prolonging her active chess career.

  • @saltyfox7056
    @saltyfox7056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The books I read all have one thing in common, they don't teach you anything, they quiz, always quiz quiz quiz. That is backward. In school you do not take the test first then study the answers. You are supposed to study the answers THEN quiz AFTER you have studied. I actually think chess books should never have a quiz, just the answers. Your quiz will be in your game playing.

    • @BMWE-hm7uz
      @BMWE-hm7uz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quizzing gets your brain working, and analysing something as you currently know it. You can either get the right or wrong answer. When wrong, you can back track and see why you were wrong, why was your thought process incorrect, what did you miss. These issues then highlight flaws and you work on them. Generally speaking, those flaws are written somewhere In the book and you can learn properly and retake the quiz or work on particular positions and concepts on that topic from different sources at a later time
      Plus quizzes add a little more interactivity, and doing is easier to nail the ideas down than just reading. You can always not do the quizzes though

  • @mrg6495
    @mrg6495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Way to Go Ben …..Keyur

  • @jiteshkumarsahoo2830
    @jiteshkumarsahoo2830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So Bruce Banner is an NM huh

  • @kevinhaggins9847
    @kevinhaggins9847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When reading gm game in books are you supposed to go over the other variations that weren’t played in the game. I find out it to be hard once making the moves otb.

    • @lukastux3024
      @lukastux3024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course you should!

    • @dclemons6200
      @dclemons6200 ปีที่แล้ว

      For whatever it's worth: I'm not great at visualising past 2 moves ahead, so I play the original OTB moves with a small magnetic set and play out the variations on a full-size "analysis" board. When I'm done playing out & analysing variations, I can re-synchronise the position on the large board with the one on the small board. Also, I think that the repetition of having to make each move twice is good for reinforcing whatever it is I'm trying to learn from the game. Again, that's just my take; your mileage may vary...