Dispute over sign posted at Crescent Beach heats up in Cape Elizabeth
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- The Sprague Corporation leases 100 acres of the beach to the state for public use, reserving the rest as private property. Some are questioning a sign's legality.
Mainers, don't give these faceless, soulless entities an inch, or you'll be like Maui, where the rich are closing off the beaches to the citizenry.
😂😂😂 they are the very rich you are referring to!
Right on.
They want it all and they want it now!
barbra striesand has been doing it for years to the public shoreline in front of her pacific coast beach house. .she's a STAR, so she has more rights than the plebs!
Wealthy land owners all across the country do this repeatedly. Penalties for actions like this should increase to act as a deterrence to others considering similar actions.
Even if they claim that it's not their sign, will they be forced to take down the fence?
I'm in Canada. 'Rich muppets' started buying waterfront and tried building a fence, proclaiming they owned fifty+ feet into the water. One of the locals, with a 100+ other locals cheering him on took a chainsaw to that fence.
Take that fence down
Put your own sign up ! All welcome
Ocean beaches are public. Thats federal law
FEDERAL
Guess again.
@@mikepalmer1971 CFR33 section 328.4-b-1 states the beach up to the high tide mark the beach is considered "waters of the United States" and is under the jurisdiction of the Corp of Engineers. Most seaside states, including Maine, say private property ends at the "mean high tide mark". Often the meaning period is 20 years. So that translates to being a point on the beach where 7300 of the most recent 14,600 high tides being higher than that point and an equal number being lower. So to determine that point on any particular piece of beach you have to produce a lot of recorded measurements. And as the beach slope changes 20 yards away you may need a different set of measurements.
@@richdiddens4059 So you don't understand what "water" is? It doesn't seem confusing to me, but you do you.
No coastline is private ….
In NJ, the beaches are private for the most part, but we are allowed to walk on the "wet" tide line.
Then you will demand the gov refunds all the property taxes?
@@2pugmanState Supreme Court decisions say the public is entitled to the beaches at the mean high water mark, which is the point where the wet sand meets the dry, as well as to some of the dry sand above the line.
@@Bigrignohio the funny thing is this land is not taxed.
Except of course for the property above the high tide mark, and out to the low tide mark in Maine and Massachusetts, where the property above the high tide is privately owned.
That's true even in Michigan. We don't have tides, but the area the waves reach is public.
This bull was tried on the island of Trinidad but was quickly shown that all beaches are public and can't be owned
take the fence down, its not an owned beach, army corps of engineers own the property, free for all citizens to use. this corporation put that fence there, thats clear, remove it. if they are protecting their land then they can put a fence up at their property line, far back from the beach area. the sprague corporation does not own the beach. start checking accounts of the local government officials.
Not an owned beach? So the company does not pay property tax on it? Just curious.
@@Bigrignohio most likely they do not, every time I have checked they pay to high water only.
If the Sprague Corporation owns the land above the high tide mark then they very definitely, and clearly, own the land out to the low tide mark because that's how coastal property ownership works in Maine (and Massachusetts). Any chance you think the Army Corp owns it because you don't understand what "water" means?
@@jeffhays1968 Can you show us any example of a property tax bill that itemizes the taxes for different parts of a single parcel based on varying uses or characteristics of parts of the parcel? In the world most people live in each parcel has a value and a related tax bill and that's it. There's absolutely no question that the owner of a parcel abutting the high tide mark owns the property out to the low tide mark.
@@suedenim9208can you show where private property stops at the beach or does it extend into the ocean indefinitely
so funny that i did not hear a single Mainer accent in that entire video...
Someone from Massachusetts owns that beach no Mainers allowed
Nope you can’t own a beach in Maine… the end
No you cannot own a beach in Maine it’s the law
Exactly what I Thought!
@@mizb.7777you are TOO funny. From low tide to high tide that doesnt include the entire beach
@@mizb.7777 If you pull your head out of your ass you might find that it's extremely easy to find out what the law actually is, and it's extremely clear and well-established that private ownership extends over the intertidal zone to the low tide line in Maine.
Maine, here in California, we practice "Imminent domain". The State just takes over the land. Period!
In all 50 states, and the territories and other possessions of the US, they follow a little thing called the 5th amendment. It's not very long so you might consider reading it some day.
That sign looks pretty weathered. It has been there a while.
Being under salt water can do that!
They can do whatever they want up to the tide line. And that's the Mean High High Tide, too.
So don't use taxpayers' money to fix beach erosion. From land to sea, all citizens should have access. No one should be able to block a beach/coastline. There should be no ownership of the coastline or beaches.
The rich snobs looking down the end of their noses at us! Why are we letting corporations buy all of our land! We the People
In the State of Maine , ' Trespassing ' is to be considered Expected unless the Property Owner puts in measures to ensure against ' Trespass ' . The Law goes on to say what a Property Owner ' Must Do ' to be considered Legal . The State of Maine does have comprehensive ' Trespass ' Laws that Protect the Property Owners . Anyone concerned should look into the State of Maines Laws on Private Property Rights and the Right of Legal Trespass .
All coast lines are public domain period. It is not possible to own a portion of ocean as a private citizen.
In Maine (and Massachusetts) it's not only possible, but normal to own the intertidal lands between the high and low tide marks.
tear down the fence up to the high water mark, too. .see who (if anybody) complains. .then charge THEM.
I am in no way on the side of landowners BUT let's face it, the public are slobs, they trash the beach and go merrily on their way. Need mmore enforcement activity re litterbugs.
Tale the sign and fence down, see who cries foul.
Fish that zone DAILY, see who gets pissed.
But it is not their land Mr. Town Official
There are no private beaches in the USA. even in Maui.
It must be posh to be so fixated on something so trivial. Some *other* people (probably far POORER folks) have legitimately serious issues to handle.
I pay no attention to these landowners. I can fish anywhere I like below the high water mark, dig clams, collect driftwood or metal detect the beach. I can be very unpleasant too.
pole shift soon.
I go on so-called private beaches in Maine all the time.
I just laugh.
I love striper fishing
What are the laws about taking a dump on said property?
Are you French?
@@cutiepiecatloveallanimals6602 Wee wee poo poo.
Sure, because of all the ppl going around putting up signs on other ppls property just for funsies. It could happen 😂
The sign and fence was probably installed by some random person with little to do.
@@thomcarr7021 More likely someone with property there. I would take down the fence and sign.
if you believe that then i have a bridge to sell you.
Your mom
Ah, Obama?
No kidding!
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