Top 10 Moments in The Lost Metal! [TLM+COSMERE SPOILERS]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- The Lost Metal, the fourth and final Wax & Wayne novel, came out November 15th, and boy there was crazy things in the book, so let's talk about them! MASSIVE SPOILERS including cosmere stuff in this video! Do not watch until you have finished the book!
00:00 Intro
1:28 Number One
2:43 Number Two
4:04 Number Three
4:56 Number Four
5:44 Number Five
6:35 Number Six
7:55 Number Seven
9:13 Number 8
9:57 Number 9
10:26 Number 10
11:39 Honorable Mentions
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Fun fact: that Discord epigraph happens in the same chapter that first introduces Sazed.
this is NOT a fun fact because it makes me sad and fearful for my boy Saze :(
Damn you are right. This seems to be along that same sort of line where Brando has said we know the ending to the SA from the epigraphs at the beginning of TWOK.
Well. Damn.
Holy crap. You madman, Brandon. I'm pinning this comment. -Eric
Sazed: *chuckles* I am in danger, I think.
I loved how often Hoid was ready to pick up Wax in various vehicles throughout the book, but until the very end, Wax kept ditching him (sometimes for good reason). Guess it only needs a broken bone and being completely exhausted in the middle of an ocean to accept that ride
My only (slight) disappointment in this book is that Hoid didn't play a bigger role. But then, I always wish Hoid would play a bigger role.
Staircase scene (which itself is amazing) but then afterwards Wayne’s like, “woah dude, you might be harmony’s sword, but just cause you can go murder 10,000 mode doesn’t mean yah gotta,” and then just shouting at the remaining guards to spook them off.
I loved that too! -Eric
Shai turning herself into an Elantrian was one of my favorite parts of the book. Has nothing to do with Mistborn at all, but it's something I wanted to see her try since reading Emperors Soul. I'm so happy that she's a Ghostblood.
Didn't realise I needed to read emporers soul, best get on it
I loved the Harmony's sword sequence with Wax. Wax telling Sazed you don't know what it's like to do this, and then Sazed just subtly being "you're such a cute child Wax" and sharing the memory of Luthadel. Sorry Wax but counting Koloss I don't think Wax has yet caught up to pre ascending Sazed's kill count! I also loved the moment where Wayne tells Wax to take a moment and talks to the people. It's such a nice moment where Wax is Harmony's Ruin but Wayne is there as his Preservation and showing how that can work together really well! You know... before it goes all wrong in Era 3 lol.
also that's exactly what Wayne did in preventing the sub from reaching Elendel, he Preserved a massive amount of life and other stuff
And by this example... Preservation just passed on...
I predict Discord is and has always been the shard Sazed has been bearing. Harmony was simply his perception of Discord, and he can't admit to himself he is actually Discord. This is evidenced by Kelsiers complaints to Sazed in his epilogue about not preventing the disaster sooner (to allow more discord to occur) and in Sazed lying to Kelsier about Lerasium (as it would help defend Scadrial, preventing Discord).
yeah Saze gave me mega darkness and self denial vibes during that conversation with Kelsier
I am fine with this as long as it ends up with Sazed still being on Team Good Guy at the end of the day once all the dust has settled. For me, it would retroactively ruin the original Mistborn if Sazed ends up becoming a villain later on, and I am pretty keen to avoid that. Additionally, we already have 2 big Shard antagonists, so I think Sazed is a LOT more interesting where he is right now than piling yet another big bad Shard to deal with on top of Autonomy and Odium.
If Sazed happens to be end up actually being the shard of Discord, I don’t know if he’ll be able to keep being a good guy. Attempting to go against a shards intent could possibly end up destroying him.
Discord, shard of gamers
Have I ever lied to you, my friend?
Wax and Wayne have a beer is the core of the story for me.
Wayne giving a speech in the stairwell is also a great scene
I got the impression that Sazed won't *become* Discord, but rather it'll *split off* of him somehow, becoming something of a dark twin to Harmony. We do see a dark figure standing beside Sazed, not so much changes in Sazed himself. Him bearing two opposite Shards causes instability, so he'll split into two Shards again, but due to the mixing, these will be two different Shards. Harmony and Discord are quite opposite things, and I see them existing simultaneously making much more sense than one becoming the other.
I was re-reading secret history after finishing Lost Metal. In the conversation between Kelsier and Harmony, Kelsier asks him if he could get back to the physical realm and Harmony tells him no. Kelsier responds that he's always been a terrible liar.
I laughed when Sazed asked Kelsier if he had ever lied to him, all intimidating. I was like, Saze, that was the last thing you did in Secret History! And Kelsier knew it!
@@godminnette2 he also lied to kelsier in the previous sentence, saying there was no lerasium.
@@danperkins4781 I am not sure if that was a truth or lie, actually. Wax may have done something special to make Lerasium the one time that Sazed is uncertain how to reproduce.
@@godminnette2 Sazed saod that lerasium burned up in the reaction. Not so!
Some of my favorite under rated moments were
1) Wayne becoming a millionaire and accidentally creating the Scadrial NFL
2) The ongoing beef between Wax and Allomancer Jak 😂😂😂
Wax then having to pretend to be friends with Jak for the mission! XD
I'm also wondering if Wayne is the ghost writer for Alomancer Jak
@@elWhiteNinja1 I kninda feel the same way. There was true genus under those hats. And we know he was an incredible story teller, he got it from his Ma
"Death is not a religion. It is a fact." That line rivals "Honor is dead, but I'll see what I can do.", "You cannot have my pain!" and "Journey before Destination you Bastard!" for me. Such a badass line.
LOVE this line. I should have mentioned it in the Marsh section. That should be Marsh's top quote on the wiki... -Eric
Also apparently other worlds know about Marsh?
That whole scene where Marsh shows up to spring them from jail is def one of the top moments for me
All the Cosmere lore in this book made me feel like a tick given access to a particularly plump vein.
Also, loving the new intro!
As an audiobook listener I absolutely did not realize that was a capital D. That's awesome.
I didn't realize it was Shai from Emperor's Soul til just now in this video. XD
So if that is the same woman then shouldn't she be a bit more upset at the man who stole the Moon Sceptor and put her in prison and nearly killed her?
Anybody else catch the bit in the Ars Arcanum about Hemalurgy weakening and no longer allowing compounding since Sazed took over?
Probably because he's suppressing Ruin to balance it with Preservation, right? I think that struggle will be the real reason for a lot of his inaction, and giving it up will lead to Discord. It'll be interesting to see though
That is very much a podcast! It's INCREDIBLY spicy! -Eric
@17th Shard When is the podcast?!! Can't happen soon enough. Do it Live, please 🙏. Editing is overrated.
For Hemalurgy or in general? Reactions 1 is Sunday. Topics will come out weekly after that. Hemalurgy is on the list but lower priority than some other things. -Eric
@@17thShard Just do what you guys do. I'm coming along for the ride regardless!!! Thank you!
Or Wax is triplets born?
bendalloy+duralumin can let you push so hard a Shard can't keep up anymore...terrifying.
The men of gold and red are an offshoot of the Iriali right? Am I the only one who got that impression.
They are entirely gold and they follow the One which seems like a fitting religion for Autonomy. They also appear throughout the Cosmere
7:18 The fact that the perpendicularity required metalborn nearby reminds me of how we've theorized that perpendicularities work on Threnody, those unstable perpendicularities being "morbid" because they require a large concentration of shades
I especially think that Shai giving Hoid the stink-eye is super appropriate. Not only is she wary of him because of the Ghostblood dynamic standing seemingly opposed to Hoid’s actions, but Hoid is the reason Shai was in her whole predicament from The Emperor’s Soul to begin with when he stole the Moon Scepter.
Oh good pick up!
This was what I used to convince my mother that she was actually Shai. Until I pointed it out, she wasn't fully convinced! XD
Eric, I appreciate you doing this video so soon after release. When you did the same video 2 years ago following Rhythm of War I felt heard and so excited. I have the same feelings today while watching this video. Thanks!
I loved this book! Highlights for me include Wayne’s whole arc with such a fabulous end. The final dual between Wax and Wayne and their copies. I love that they couldn’t figure out how to best themselves, but they knew each other so well that they could take each other down. Seeing all the crossovers front and center is so fun. It makes me want to reread everything so maybe it is a genius move to just keep us focused on all things Sanderson. Sazed has always been one of my favorite characters in all of Brandon’s books. And his end in Era 1 I thought was beautiful. Seeing him struggle to figure out the balance of the Shards has me terrified. And I love/hate it. I desperately want only good things for him, but it seems up in the air at the moment. Hopefully he is just playing a good long game.
I relate so strongly to wishing Sazed stays a good guy! I kept thinking that in the end we will learn that he did not act faster for a reason and was actually doing something else, just as important. I like Kelsier, but I LOVE Sazed and it would be sad to see him - our calm, knowledgeable, kind Terrisman - turn erratic.
Omg I CRIIIEEED so hard! "I'm the hero?" If God says so.... maybe Wax was right all along......
Wayne's mental health sub plot could have gone in a really dark direction. I'm so glad he felt redemption and not defeat. Wayne is probably my single most favorite part of Era2 and he got the send off I think he deserved.
Excellent review! thanks for posting!
WOAAAAAHHHHH THAT NEW INTRO LOOKS INCREDIBLE
I think Harmony/Discord is a fluctuation. Like we get Harmony for an Era, then we get Discord for an era, then we get Harmony again. Like maybe part of holding two opposing shards is a flux between their intents.
If Era 3 does end up being a Cold War type thing between the north and south, it sure would fit well if there was a plotline about Sazed dealing with Discord & turning back to Harmony at the end once the Cold War is resolved, wouldn’t it!
@@EvilMagnitude It might be hot war as well.
Steris getting a job>>>> my beloved. I also was just generally entertained by the contrast between the terror of the rosharan ghostbloods and there being like… 3 ghostbloods to stop the world from being invaded. And they leave one behind to open the safe house door for a civilian 😭 if you hadn’t read Stormlight you’d have no idea how bad they can be
AHHHHH SEEING AN ELANTRIAN WAS SO GREAT AHHHHHHHH gimme another novela for shai-
I found the rule about how they are to never to have internal infighting to be especially interesting in comparison to the Ghostbloods on Roshar.
I think that's kind of it. Concentrated investiture creates perpenficularities. So a large group of Metalborn in an enclosed space, plus Autonomy's own powets created a perpendicularity
I finished, please get the gang together I need a full shardcast!
Sunday! -Eric
@@17thShard "Not good enough Dalinar, not nearly good enough!"
It won't be kelsier who kills Saze, it will be Marsh who does it
That'd be cool, but I think Secret History and this book is setting up the Kelsier v Sazed conflict. So I think narratively this makes more sense. -Eric
@@17thShard oh I definately believe the conflict will be Saze vs Kel, Marsh will be the decider though, I also think if anyone's gonna reap a God, it should be Death himself
Okay that's a really good point! -Eric
Shai is one of my top three favorite Cosmere characters, and I'm actually pretty upset that this book kind of did her dirty. She admits she's rusty as a thief, but in general she's bad at reading people, bad at gleaning information about people from items in their life, and over-acts incredibly heavily while trying to play as Kim. It's not that I didn't think Wayne would see through the act, but Wayne literally saw through it the instant he laid eyes on her. Even in the text from Wax's perspective it's clear she's over-acting even if Wax doesn't mention it in internal monologue. The way she talks about using an Essence Mark on herself, you'd think it was her third time doing it; I get there must be something special about the Elantrian stamp, especially because with its success it seems the Stamp is being continually renewed and the effect of the Shaod being a more dramatic change to her Spiritual self than most Essence Marks. It still seemed... out of character for her.
I had figured for a while that this must not actually be Shai, but a similar individual whose life took a different path: one where a Forger focused more on researching item forgery than forgery of people and their souls. Shai was quite an expert at both, but imagine if instead of training in the reading and manipulation of people, she had devoted all of her time to studying the Stamping of objects. A person capable of making Universal Stamps. I realize that I sound like I'm describing yet another alternate life of Shai as if from an Essence Mark, but I really thought this must be a similar yet distinct character from Shai for the longest time through this book.
I wonder if we'll learn something about how she came to be where she is now; I wonder if she's suffered some traumas that have impacted her so heavily so as to cause this. Perhaps it is just being centuries out of practice in these arts, but....
Also, she mentions at one point that one of these days when she stamps herself, she won't ever turn back. She could simply not have written into the stamp to restamp herself each day, yes? I thought that for a stamp to have permanent effect of any kind, it must be restamped many many many times, and even then that hypothetical was over an empty slate, not a full one. I wonder what she meant by that...
loved seeing Shai!
My BIG question is why so many hints where put in towards Wax being a Mistborn if this is the last we are going to see of him. He's definitely a weak Mistborn (only seeing slightly through the mists, pulling the small metal vial towards himself in the air) but he is still a mistborn despite that. (Like how Vin's allomancy was weaker than Elend's, Wax is just wayyyy weaker than Vin)
It felt like so many hints were thrown in, even Harmony said he wasn't sure. Why load Chekov's gun if it isn't going to be used. Are we getting more Wax down the line?
Agreed, this was weird. -Eric
I think we’re definitely getting more Wax somewhere in the future. Maybe stormlight 6-10 somehow?
MeLaan seemingly landing on Roshar might be a connecting point??
Yes, it seems weird to end the Era without having Wax himself be aware of this in any way. Didn't really get that.
I think he and Steris will have another child who is a Mistborn!
@@danlupo4665 MeLaan didn't land on Roshar's subastral, but those lost red-haired people could be Horneaters.
I love the new opening sequence!
I loved The moment when wax and steris figures out that the set already have the bomb
Also the ghostblood talked about 4 major systems being to dangeres including roshar
Great video!
I think ruin is already influencing him. The way he spoke in the epilogue makes it seem like he knew how it would play out from the beginning, i also think when he was explaining the 1% chance the other plan would work he wasnt being entirely truthful because of the ruin
The part of this book that made me turn off my phone (reading it as an ebook) and stare out into space for several minutes, was when Wayne and Sazed were talking right before The Big Bomb Moment, and Sazed gives Wayne a 'hat', or at least the terris earrings, and then Wayne ends his next line with "I think". Like, he's copying Sazed's speech patterns! Despite having only talked to him very little! Because he's Wayne and he's brilliant! And I love Sazed so much small things like that just live in my soul!
Genuine tear up from awesomeness moment: TwinSoul's battle monologue. I'm a sucker for a good lofty battle monologue.
I just imagine this amazing Indian character just being like fine.. “coexistence.. conflict.. combat.”
"it's gonna be so good" needs to be your new catchphrase, trademark it
Omg I love the opening sequence 😍 I'm sure the rest of the video is great too, I just haven't gotten that far yet
Edit: I did not realize Codenames are Stupid was someone we knew. I thought it was someone from Threnody since they have names like that :D
Loved this book, can't wait for the full reaction Shardcast! I have so many questions about all the connections. Also, this book has me so scared for Sazed, I was really really hoping he would survive the Cosmere and unite all the shards 😢 I don't want him to go evil! 😭
My favorite moments that weren’t mentioned were all of Steris and Wax’s interactions. They’re just so cute and the way they support each other is so sweet. Also seeing little Maxillum and Tindwyl was the best!
I loved a lot of these parts as well!
Don't marsh in the kel v saze discussion. Remember how Marsh says that there's three of them from the original crew balancing each other out.
Melaans epilogue. First sho del on screen!
And the letter-carriers! -Eric
@@17thShard did you catch the skybreaker?!?
@@17thShard Please tell me I wasn't the only one that thought that the "red haired" lost people that MeLaan went to save could possibly be Rock from Roshar and his party.
@@xelvoz6488 i think the red haired people are surely herdazians who have fled through cultivation’s perpendicularly, and the lights they hold are mostly stormlight spheres
Steris! How could you not mention her greatness?
She is great and I loved having her, but her plotline (not her character work) fell a bit flat for me. I loved where she ended up though. -Eric
@@17thShard I think she suffered a lot from being split from Wax. As a character, Steris is at her best bouncing off of Wax, and she was separated from him for most of the book. I guess an unfortunate byproduct of the fact that there isn't really a way to justify sending her into the kind of combat-heavy scenarios Wax was involved with this book.
Agreed on all of that, for sure. -Eric
I actually love how her struggle is to become on her own person, not living through supporting others. Being awesome as herself instead, not by pretending to be someone else. I loved Steris in this book probably more than any other character arc!
So many good scenes! This book makes me feel even more so that I need to read every sanderson book to help catch all the interplanetary references esp. In future books as seems to be getting more are more connected
You definitely should. It's really cool being up to date and reading a new book.
New animation graphics is 🔥
I just love this book, it's now one of my favorites and I didn't expect it to be, since the rest of Era 2 is just fine in my opinion. And the it's probably because it has so much Cosmere stuff.
Great video!
My favorite scene in the book is probably Wax and Wayne talking (Im a sucker for those kinda of scenes, where one character is beating the hell out of themselves and another character comes by and tells them how it is, the same thing happened in Oathbringer with Hoid and Shallan and that was my favorite scene there too). My other favorite scenes are Wayne talking to Harmony, Kelsier talking to Harmony, and Wax being the sword.
I can’t wait to hear what u think happened to the bands.
I'll give you a preview: ????????????????????????? -Eric
My theory is the Southerners used an allomantic grenade to leech everyone from tapping any metal for the minute or so they needed to. Then took it back still full.
I can't watch this because of spoilers, but I'm here to algorithm boost you anyway :)
I got the big death in this book spoiled for me and as a result i put off reading it for like 6 months, burnt through it in like 2 days and i'm not even sad
it feels like i ate a large and fulfilling meal
Wayne is a GOD DAMN HERO
I really wanted Wayne to use duralumin and comound gold and gold to survive..... He has the metal minds... He can now burn gold as an alomancer and as a feruchemist.... 🥺🥺 Really wanted him to survive the blast 💔💔
You missed a real opportunity to have a top 16.
Yeah, I chose this because I think it would be better analytically for TH-cam, honestly. -Eric
Call it Top 10 and then clarify in the video it's in hexadecimal
@@17thShard Then do top 10 and have 6, precisely 6, honorable mentions.
I have a lot of curiosity about how the bands of mourning gott empty, y what's really happening at the south continent.
"It's the heat!" My favorite moment by far.
can finally watch this vid
Should have done a top 16
Fav of the era
In the conversation with Kelsier and Sazed, the part where Sazed says 'have i ever lied to you?' really stuck with me since Kelsier didn't seem to realize that he was lying. Made me remember the scene in,( secret history i think?) where Sazed lied to Kelsier about him never being able to get his body back. So Sazed can lie now?
Oh, I definitely think Kelsier knows Sazed can and does lie. -Eric
Wayne was the best in this book - such a great arc
1) Twin Soul makes himself a mecha suit.
I feel vindicated. LOL. All this time people think Kelsier is now an all-out villain but it seems lile he will turn out to untimately be on the good side and Sazed might end up being the antagonist in the end.
Hes gonna be the scadrian CIA doing both shady and good things for planetary security imo.
@@insertname5371 that makes sense
I think the Ghostbloods' actions on Roshar can be explained by how strongly Kelsier had to rein in Daal (whatever the Southern Scadrian's name was) when he wanted to kill Marasi. If his relative is the mentor for the leader of all Ghostbloods on Roshar, then I can see where Mraize gets his bloodthirstiness.
Kelsier is hell-bent on the protection of scadrial, that does mean he isn’t always going to align with the interests of non-scadrian protagonists.
Such as on Roshar, they work with odium somewhat because if they can trick odium into staying on Roshar, that’s two threats contained. The scariest invested arts and the deadliest shard, both trapped on the same world.
The Silverlight Malwish community seems to be really bloodthirsty
No mention of Wax & Wayne becoming Mistborn? I was expecting Wax to figure it out at the end. Wonder if it will lead to anything important in the future.
One day, we will get to read a Hoid book showing all the behind the scenes things he's been doing in all the books and why.
Yas plz.. give me all you got! I want yall to break this one down for months 😆
That's the plan! -Eric
That intro is cool.
Come on, if Dalinar can make a perpendicularity you seriously propose that a Shard cannot?
No mention of the first Sho Del?
Wayne pushing Wax off the boat.
Unbeatable in terms of hilarity: Ghost-Wayne talking to Harmony
"Are you friends of Jak?"
Telsin playing Wernher von Braun was audacious. I have to say it.
Waxillium doing the Terminator. Big guns are cool.
Wayne fleeing the investment bankers.
Steris pulling out the big book of evacuation plans. Although, seriously how do you evacuate a city of that size? Sanitation alone makes it almost impossible.
Them doing science. Love Steris. Finally a responsible researcher who does not just grab things with her bare hands.
This was Wayne's book and he got a hero's exit.
I mean the fact that Shai specifically mentions it being weird indicates it really isn't a thing a Shard can do willy-nilly without some work. The Sho Del is cool! -Eric
@@17thShard True, but that makes the Bondsmith ability even more unusual.
@@17thShard I suspect it's connected with the Drominad perpendicularity
I love the idea of the Cosmere, and I've read all the Cosmere books, but whenever I hear someone talk about it, I am so lost and have no idea. Even when the identity of characters hiding behind codenames is revealed, I still have no idea who they are, because I just don't remember them. Any of them. I probably need to re-read the entire Cosmere, but there are so many books in my eternal to-read list I don't know if it'll ever happen. And even then, I'm not sure I'd get it. My brain just doesn't have the capacity to fit it all in. Time to scour the Coppermind and see if I can figure some of it out.
Don't stress about it, to be honest. I enjoy the connections, but my mom reads the cosmere and doesn't, and she enjoys it fine. You absolutely do not need to get the cameos to love the stories! But this is my top ten and I absolutely love that stuff (hence why I've been running 17th Shard since 2010). -Eric
I just finished reading Era two today, holy hell what a fantastically incredible book. Wayne...might be my favorite Cosmere character maybe right above Kal. Ugh, that prologue. How does Sando hit it out of the park every single time. I cant wait for era 3 to be futuristic and still fantasy.
My favorite line in the entire book:
(Moonlight) Wayne you have a broad imagination
(Wayne) There are broads in my imagination all the time
I am finally done this book. I am not a huge fan of Era 2 mostly because I like my fantasy genres to be fantasy, not age progressing fantasy, and I really disliked the "buddy cop" dynamics within it for a long time. Still, wanted to read the book because I really enjoy the Cosmere as a whole, but kept finding reasons to put this one off. I enjoyed the book, but the guns and stuff still bug me. I can appreciate what Brandon Sanderson is doing, and I hope he implements the high-tech era well. Best part for me was when we got the confirmation at the end from Sazed to Wayen that Wax had in fact inhaled some Larasium (or however it's spelled), because when I first read that Wax was experiencing odd lingering side effects after the explosion my mind immediately went to maybe he was successful and trace amounts of both metals were created. Was soooooo satisfying to have that feeling be right XD. But I 100% also loved the fact that Sazed just 100% lied to Kelsier, saying only atium was a biproduct of that reaction and, "Have I ever lied to you Kelsier?"
I see your hot take and raise you Eric: Kelsier and Sazed need to destroy each other ( ... I think ;) ).
hello very good video
happy Chouta's day
mraize mentions aether on his shirt (stain) in stormlight!
He does :) -Eric
Are the iriali descents of the men of gold and red? We know the Iriali are worldhoppers and their religion of the One seems very autonomy related.
Just finished the book today and it was amazing. I do have a question hopefully someone can answer? Near the start when Wayne and Marasi were in the sewers, Marasi had people she was interrogating in the slow bubble when Wayne went to get backup, who was it that Marasi saw outside the bubble?
Shai, I believe. -Eric
OK now that I got that memey comment out of the way, I have something serious to discuss. I'm beginning to wonder if the late-game Cosmere is going to be largely influenced by, at that point of time, a heavily depleted / total lack of usable investiture in some / all regions.
Using Elantris as an example - their shards are dead, and this purified Dor seems to be a HIGH valued commodity. But, it's finite... right? At a certain point somewhere down the road, all of the remaining Dor from the Selish shards should be either fully depleted, or in VERY limited quantities.
Scadriel - In a world where Harmony/Discord is no more, humans would cease to be born with the investiture from Preservation, and slowly the hereditary gene would become less and less present. Also, would any metals created from that point contain any investiture?
Roshar is unique in having investiture constantly strewn across the environment even with Honor being dead, so they seem the best off of the major worlds.
It seems to me that as shards fall, investiture should become harder to come by as a whole, making competition for it all much higher. Am i missing something?
The dor is being infinitely replenished from the spiritual realm. As it gets used it returns to devotion and dominion then spills back into the cognitive realm due to the way that devotion and dominion are shattered. All investiture works like this.
We’re not 100% sure how it works on scadrial, but I don’t think the metals are destroyed when burned, probably chemically changed, but the metals on scadrial simply act as a key to access the investiture of the mists.
Is Marsh the 3rd leg of a stool...or is it a chair? I recon Lord Mistborn is out there somewhere.
Another funny moment was the skybreakers interaction with Steris.
Who's the skybreaker? The dudes from Ghostbloods? I though they were just steel pushers.
@@TheCozz95 The leader of that group asks Steris about the legality of sinking the ship, first and foremost. That entire group of 8 is probably skybreakers, the last of the group is also a ghostblood
Seeing the ghost bloods in their early days was SO cool. Loved it. And yes they are the early days, this series is like 300 years before the events of Roshar.
This book takes place between SA5 and SA6.... So it's not early days....
@@hardikjeena8387 Brandon Sanderson:
The Alloy of Law takes place around 300 years after The Hero of Ages and several hundred years before the events in The Way of Kings. That does put it around the same time as Warbreaker.
Uh, did you read the footnote on that WoB? "Brandon has since changed this due to realizing a timeline conflict. The Way of Kings is now in between The Hero of Ages and The Alloy of Law." The footnote is there for a reason!
That quote is from 2011. There are way more recent ones, and he has made the timeline more concrete over the last eleven years. For several years he has been very consistent now. Here's this one from this last month: wob.coppermind.net/events/508/#e15877 -Eric
@@17thShard huh. there you go. why does it seems like the ghostbloods are far less developed/ambitious in this book than in Roshar? clearly i have interpreted something wrong.
Fortunately for you, our next two episodes are Ghostbloods and Kelsier! -Eric
one request do not do this video for stormlight 5...too hard to resist...i wonder how discord and harmony tones would look like.
Sorry, I will be making one for Stormlight 5! -Eric
I wonder how Wax will end up in Roshar, though, since we know that SA back half happens after ME2 and that Sazed is supposed to send his sword there
i could've swore Wax said he wouldn't do anything else for Harmony after this and Saze said he wouldn't ask either
Based on Wax's comments about not wanting to be the sword anymore, I imagine that Sazed will have to find a new sword.
There's no way Wax is still the sword, imo, after this. -Eric
@@17thShard yeah, that's what I'm thinking too since Sazed promised not to ask him again for help. But there's no one else that was set up, especially now that he's Mistborn
Could MeLaan be considered the sword?? She is made using Hemalurgy so she is of Ruin AND Preservation. She also seemingly landed on Roshar in her epilogue. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
I'm still so mad it's not "red and gold" >_> We have been living a lie lmao
RIGHT!? I was in disbelief and nearly flagged it in the proofread... but then it's ACCURATE and god we've Mandela effected ourselves this whole time! -Eric
I've always known it was gold and red. You guys are just silly
Gold and red. Elantris painting
Do people think Wax is Sazed's sword mentioned in his letter to Hoid? Seems like he can't be because he's too old but who else? But why else make him a Mistborn? Do we know roughly how many years before Gavilars death the events of the Lost Metal take place?
Also what do people think Sazed did/tried to do regarding his comment "yes but it didn't work like I thought it would" (roughly). Did he try to make Wax into his Avatar similar to Telsin? Or simply invest him even more like what he does when Marsh gets to play Death in Shadesmar? Something else?
Thanks for the great video Eric and perfect timing for it!
This happens way after Gavilar's death! Stormlight front half happens prior to Mistborn Era 2. So this is already taking place after Stormlight 5. Wax is clearly the sword that Harmony is referring to there though, but I don't think he will ever continue in that role, given this was his very last job for Harmony. Guess Harmony will need to find a new sword. -Eric
@@17thShard Thanks Eric! I had the timeline wrong in my head so appreciate that.
@@17thShard well, he could become Discord's sword though. There's always that possibility.
@@Haxerous uuggghh that's what i've been worrying myself about, will Saze honor his promise not to bother Wax anymore? but then would it create a hole in his soul like Odium mentioned? but then is Saze experienced enough holding his Shards to know of that danger? (maybe it comes with the Shards like other shardic knowledge stuff?) gyawd i'm so stressed about this Harmony/Discord stuff
Just finished the book.
Hi just curious at 2min 12 seconds he mentions Khai from Elantris I dun remember such a character help ppl ??? Hahahaha I want to know
Kaise :) -Eric
Loved the books. Just disappointed that my theory that we would jump straight into the next era didn't pan out (i.e. The characters or perhaps the entire world being engulfed in a mega-bubble)
Should have done top 16 moments
Wayne, Lift or Loppen?
Was Marsh the third leg or is it possible that spooke is still alive?
No Steris mention??? Her arc was one of the most impactful for me.
I liked her scenes and it was great to see her. I wanted more from her storyline though so though it was nice, it's not on my list. I realize it's very impactful for many, and I'm just like "yeah this was nice." -Eric
Shake extra! Lol
Why isn't Shai mad at Hoid for his betrayal in the emperor soul?
Probably because this is centuries later. No use opening old wounds when it was this one thing that happened hundreds of years ago. They've probably moved on from it, but there's still a bit of stink-eye tension between them, I think.
Next era Cold War
What is the e=mc^2 for investigor? One formula for matter and one for energy in theory. They created a nuclear explosion but with investigor. It seems different than anti-investigor reactions. The physics of investigor being both matter and energy I'd really fun lol
Max!!!!!!
Wait? That was Shai?! What the hell?!
Yep, she swears by Nights in ch 20 (and only Shai has done that), she's a Forger, and go look at her Elantrian name. It's an Aonic version of the name Shai. -Eric
@@17thShard Sometimes I forget Emperors Soul exists so that may be why I glossed over all the clues lol
FLAMING BUNNY! Seriously
Can't wait till Roshar and Scadriel fight each other. Sixth of the dusk 2 was really spoiler.