@@lAMDEWAN nah, helldivers 2 had a great launch, but horrible lifespan. half of the updates we're bad and (most) of the other half we're good because they reverted the bad ones. don't get me wrong, it's still good but not goty worthy.
Its hard to win when you come out early in the year. Lethal company had the entire internet in a chokehold for like over a month and was never even nominated for a single award because of when it came out.
Which is really lame considering BO6 came out like a week before the shadow game and it took longer for it to get in the game awards (just to get snubbed by genshin AGAIN)
Blackrock told Sony, we’re trying to peddle WW3 here we can’t have the whole globe playing the best multiplayer game of all time working in harmony across continents. “Nuke it”
@@lAMDEWAN I’m telling you, they knew what they were doing. The community was too strong and too friendly. Russians, Chinese, everyone was fighting a common cause whilst laughing at propaganda and fighting in “phony” wars. It’s satire on film and life and we all loved it and they hated that!
At least Helldivers gave us a Live Bit! Im not salty because of Astro Bot either, I'd rather have a platformer from a genuine studio than f$cking Cod any day of the week
The fact that those 3 got in, but not Space marine and Helldivers truly is something, and hey at least you helldivers won something, us Angels of death just got 2 really underwhleming mentions lmfao
Helldivers 2 is a one of a kind game, it deserved that Multiplayer GOTY award for sure, the other games did not come close to the impact and absolute hype that helldivers 2 got. We probably won’t see another game like this until the next console generation.
Probably the issues it had for almost a full year, steam was going against there 2 hour refund policy to refund the game to people, that almost never happens.
The reason why I held over two was not nominated. It was quite simply they weren’t going to nominate to begin with so they weren’t going to nominated afterward, and they were not prepared for how big of a success it was, but also by the time the nomination process began it was around the time of escalation of freedom so at that time it was a dumpster fire, and it was not deemed a nominee at the time.
@ it’s what always happens with big partners because they like predictable things. This stuff takes months they probably start deciding close to March or April.
It’s so unfair to see HellDivers not get GOTY Nomination and just get 2 awards. It should have gotten it over a DLC. It was disappointing But the good thing is they came out with an ass kicking update and now, I’m done with the game awards.
Astro Bot is the reason. Both it and HD2 are Sony products, but Astro is Sony's mainline product. They wanted it to run impended so it could get more publicity.
It's such a shame, especially when helldivers was able to bring people together and cooperate for a common goal. Hell, it even still blurs the line of consoles with many still begging sony to let the game be released on xbox
Idk about that bringing people together for a common goal when everyone in the community is shitting their pants and yelling at people for not doing MO
You won’t see a single helldivers player complaining about this. We’re too busy with our new update plus the game awards have been meaningless for years.
Not only did Helldivers 2 get snubbed, but one of the categories it won it absolutely did not deserve to. Until the Illuminate dropped during the Game Awards, Helldivers 2 really has not had much in the way of content released in updates.. The game has been hard carried by it's solid gameplay loop since launch, but it's had months of poor balancing, bugfests, and content droughts. Against titles like Fornite or games that were not even nominated like No Mans Sky and Minecraft, Helldivers 2 did not deserve best ongoing game even if it deserved Game of the Year
I personally love Helldivers 2, and it definitely is my favorite game of this year, but it doesn't deserve game of the year. Between the PSN scandal, Escalation of Freedom nerfs, the lack of major updates for months, and the fact the Sony Graveyard was nominated, there was no way Helldivers 2 would win Game of the Year. Astro Bot had it in the bag since the start because journalists love it and its competitors was a DLC, poker, a game made by "sexists" or something along those lines, a remake, and a jrpg released about 2 months before award night. I personally think Balatro and the Elden Ring DLC were there to snub Dragon Age from being nominated (Everyone hated it except the journalists) but that isn't proven at all. Atleast a game with a Helldiver in it won, so we take those.
Honestly it really depends. Despite the many good things Helldivers 2 has going for it such as the sense of camraderie, it also has many bad things alongside it. For example, content drought and just generally mediocre to bad updates post destruction of meridia. Escalation of freedom was a frustrating mess and DSS was imo very disappointing considering we were in the dark for almost 3 months for what is spending samples and Req for modifiers that can even make the game even more frustrating (orbital bombardment) Terrible sense of balance and unecessary nerfs. Many nerfs were never really warranted and while the 60 day patch did fix a good portion of the weapons, there are still weapons that didn't deserve a nerf from before and wasn't reverted or buffed to help (They shadow nerfed the durable damage of the hmg despite the fact they buffed the health pools of all enemies, all buffing the ammo count did was make it take longer and more bullets to kill the same enemy)
quick reminder "Sony" is on the directors board for the game awards and astro bot is pretty much the peak of their campaign to replace lbp/sackboy (who still one their popularity contest). to say the least the game awards was rigged from the start
I still thing that there were a lot of issues surrounding Helldivers 2 so i wasn't realy expecting it to win GOTY but I at least expected it to be nominated
Are there any problems with the servers right now? Every time I enter a match it kicks me out saying there is no internet connection. But before this update I could play normally.
Same, I've never had it before, and my internet is fine, literally hasn't disconnected at all, but it kicks me sometimes, it's fine it ain't a massive issue
Balatro is crazy good, I instead feel the DLC should have been replaced with HD2. I also think astro bot winning is becasue that game was fire and was also made by a truly passionte team.
6:01 the thing is, outside of the gameplay itself like media and controversies shouldn’t matter, I absolutely agree helldievrs was snubbed, hell I would have voted for it But Astro bit deserves the nomination, the graphics, cheery gameplay, use of the PS5 controller was all beautifully executed, do I think it should win from these picks, yes, do I think it beats helldivers 2, no
Look I personally disagree about it getting goty, but the other awards it got it deserved. Correct me if I am wrong since I refunded with the psn debacle but a lot of the progression was just levelling war bonds and levelling up to get abilities, if the game had ways to get cool loot from missions directly that would have gone along way for me.
All award ceremonies are a joke. The only reason to watch the Game Awards is for the announcements. At the very least Geoff can claim he's not as big of a farce as the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame or the Oscars
Gaming is at a low point with triple AAA games and their scummy tactics to squeeze every bit money out of gamers. Cmon, look at CoD when it was pulling same amount of active players as HD2 (peak). Respect fans and make product the product with good effort.
It's been my main multiplayer game since launch and made me love multiplayer again, even if it's PvE. It was the biggest gaming phenomenon of the year and brought fun back to online!
Game awards suck its just the hosts glazing its old nominees and AAA Studios the whole time while the actual games being shown are the same exact thing over and over and over
I dont think helldivers deserve game of the year nor does stellar blade. However, wukong and the Elden Ring DLC were huge contenders.we all thought it was between them 2. Just to get destroyed by Astrobot out of no where 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Balatro is an indie darling and for good reason. Nothing has pushed the roguelike deckbuilder genre in such a unique direction since Slay the Spire. It will spawn many imitators and innovators in the years to come just as StS did. Calling it poker is needlessly reductive and just shows you have no idea what its even about. Why not call Minecraft Legos while we're at it. A good game is more than just being high budget. Balatro shows that one man with a smart idea and great execution can create something that can hook so many people. Not every nominee for game of the year has to be a third person action game.
My argument was not that it wasn’t good. It’s that Helldivers 2 is just a better game and has a crazy storyline outside of the game itself. Good on that developer for innovating and taking over that genre.
I sincerely believe Helldivers 2 deserves game of the year, but it seeing it not get that award doesn't annoy me. We all know TGA is rigged af. What DOES annoy me is it not even getting nominated, as you mentioned in the video. Its such an insult to Arrowhead and the gaming community will remember it. Ultimately, WE decide game of the year. Not them. And I've made my vote (for managed democracy).
of all things a dlc almost became "Game of the year" and its not even a stand alone game which makes it unfair sure its good but you have to own the game its from
HD2 was damn near impossible to squad up with friends when the game launched. It took months to fix that and the sizable number of gameplay bugs. This isn’t even talking about how a portion of the community was sabotaging the game from the inside nor the fans feeling underpowered for like 6 months. Then there are the multi-100+ hour players that complain about a lack of new content. Like some of these mfs have spent more time in game than seeing the morning sun. The fans are FICKLE, and I am saying this as a fan. HD2 is amazing but no small portion of the player base is responsible for the negative pr.
I found it funny elden ring shadow of the erdtree got put up so since helldivers 2 wasn’t there I voted for it cuz I actually like fromsoft and the dlc was just another game for its content and I didn’t find Astro bot deserved it since it’s just not fair to other gamers that don’t have a ps5 but hey good job Astro bot.
Tried other games over the last year and I just had to come back to HD2 after a few minutes this game is sooo good and most importantly so much fun. I legit look forward to playing on Fridays with the boys
1:41 smaller teams more likely to make better games because with small team easier to communicate to each other plan stuff out like Starfield had soo many ppl work on it and it didn’t turn out right because of lack of communication and stuff
"robbed" you say ? yeah i mean the devs also robbed us of the game we had and loved for almost 6 months so you know.... fans opinions change and helldviers 2 truly doesn't deserve the goty. the internet never forgets.
shadow of the nerftree. balatro i had never heard of and world series of poker done that to death. astro bot is good. final fantasy vii rebirth is a remaster and its not on six discs anyway (i remember that vividly, being astonished i had to change discs during the game). not sure any of those but astro bot should have been nominated. how can a dlc be GOTY when it had to be nerfed to be playable?
Hey, they always have another chance with a DLC, because that's a thing now. An honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was worked out ahead of that awards that AstroBot would win. It just so happens to be the 30th anniversary of Playstation and the game that is nominated is not just any game from any studio they own, its their first party studio with a game about what is effectively an homage of the history of PlayStation and the main character is effectively Playstations version of Nintendos Mario. It would be like if it was a big anniversary for Nintendo, and they won game of the year with their own first party studio with their flagship character. Not to say AStrobot shouldnt of won any awards but you cant help but call bullshit.
I’m gonna be seeing it now as the astral world was a great game, but I don’t think it should’ve been in the game awards ring on the other hand, Elden rings DLC it’s just a straight up game straight up just a game.
@@lAMDEWAN look helldivers is a blast. but lets not pretend the game hasn't had constant issues since it launched both from the game itself to the dev team making it . they devs literally had to roll most nerfs back to get a fraction of their playerbase back. the game has also died 2 times since launch. but about SOTE no it should never have been nominated it doesn't fit the criteria for a standalone game.
@jasonstapleton139 it definitely has had its issues. But surviving catastrophes multiple times and getting another big revival is insane! But yes the game sure is a blast 👍
The issue is not Entirely the game awards fault, it is Sony. if Sony had not destroyed Helldivers 2 for what it was (IE the PSN blockade of over 170 countries), then 100%, Helldivers 2 would be nominated and have an extravagantly high chance of winning atleast something (Game of the year being on the table as well)... However, as i said, its not entirely their fault, only some of it, but that "some" is still significant in comparison to its competition.
Even though Sony were requiring the PSN linking, the whole debacle wasn’t solely their fault, Arrowhead & Steam also had a part to play. 1) Arrowhead for temporarily disabling the requirement during launch then completely forgetting about it & not making it clear that it wasn’t optional until Sony came knocking. 2) Steam for not making it clear enough that account linking is required, it’s basically a fine print. 3) Sony for selling where they shouldn’t have as per the requirements. If the requirement was implemented properly people wouldn’t have complained as much, a lot of big companies now either require or are moving in the direction to require linking accounts but we don’t see a big fuss about it.
Helldivers 2 is NOT an indie game in any way. 100 people and 7 years of dev time takes a massive amount of money that was only possible because it was funded AND published by Sony
The amount of shit Balatro one is a fucking joke, I do not care I will die on this hill. A card game getting more awards than something like Elden Ring is disgusting.
Balatro, which i didnt pay for, i enjoyed as a mobile game, astro bot is cool and good but not GOTY good. Hd2 is GOTY good and i think playstation is partialy responsible for negativity but the devs also shot themselves in the foot too
I got helldivers yesterday because it was on sale on steam and it is fun I easily spent 2hrs on it and it cool had some connection issues but most games have that
They weren’t robbed by the game awards. Sony robbed them long before that with the PlayStation account debacle. It was so bad that they haven’t fully recovered since.
Eh I wouldn’t say they haven’t “recovered”. Do they still have 200k+ active players on steam? No. But they’ve maintained a dedicated fan base and have just released an update that looks very good. But yes it was a horrible move by Sony. HD2 shouldn’t get punished for that is what I’m saying. Genuinely such a fun game.
I think helldivers should have been nominated but the sony issue damaged the game so much man. You still can't play the game in over 100 countries now despite sony walking back their decision. The nerfs that happened were another huge issue and that was entirely on the devs. I disagree that Astro Bot shouldn't have been there. The game had bettsr critic and USER scores and it didn't have any type of issues. While I like helldivers more than anything this year I simply can't agree with you on the astro bot point. That was a well deserved nomination and win for that game.
I hear you, the Sony situation is crazy. Should’ve never happened. But my point about Astro Bot wasn’t that it didn’t deserve to be on the list at all, I just don’t believe it belonged over HD2. Kick another game out and id be happy lol like Balatro.
@lAMDEWAN I can see where you're coming from, but look at it like this. If helldivers was nominated over astro bot who had no issues at all while being reviewed by users and critics higher than helldivers then astro bot would have been robbed. That's why I don't agree with including astro bot in your list of games helldivers could have replaced. I think it should have been there instead of the elden ring dlc for sure tho. Can't speak on the card game since I didn't play it, so I don't want to talk about something I'm not familiar with. Either way, helldivers is still my personal favorite game despite the highs and lows it's had. Also, the new update is absolutely amazing man. I started downloading it as soon as it was announced, and I didn't sleep at all last night cuz I stayed up playing, and the time just flew by. The fact that we just got it for free is insane when literally any other company would have charged money for it, and nobody would have complained.
Well seeing as the game awards is a joke ran by clowns that might be a good thing, but honestly, who cares what the game awards thinks about what I should like. I play games that I find fun, end of story.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but trying to fix an organization as corrupt as the game awards is like putting a bandaid on a bleeding stump
wdym bleeding
*Looks to the left*
Do you think Is there something left of it? (NOTHING but large pile of blood)
That’s not a bad analogy lol
@@lAMDEWAN Helldivers doesnt need GoTY we brought more divers to the front using the game awards, thats a greater effect than GoTY could ever achieve
D2 being under best ongoing is a fucking Joke too, because as a player of that game its in a shitass state rn
@phantomskullstudios that’s a good point. Really cool update and reveal, love to see it.
Half the audience of The Game Awards left the stream as soon as they announced the illuminate update was now live AT THE EVENT lol. I call that a W.
EZ W. Game is revived again. Unbelievable update.
Called to action
I did my part
expect more updates like this.
Managed Democracy called for aid, and we answered.
Hey at least they did get the "Best Multiplayer Award"
And I think one more award as well
2 awards.. but blue-balled
@@lAMDEWAN it's better then nothing though
@@lAMDEWAN nah, helldivers 2 had a great launch, but horrible lifespan. half of the updates we're bad and (most) of the other half we're good because they reverted the bad ones. don't get me wrong, it's still good but not goty worthy.
Exactly im just happy they even got an award
Its hard to win when you come out early in the year. Lethal company had the entire internet in a chokehold for like over a month and was never even nominated for a single award because of when it came out.
Timing definitely seems to matter. Just wish the media could look at each game objectively so we wouldn’t have to worry about that.
Which is really lame considering BO6 came out like a week before the shadow game and it took longer for it to get in the game awards (just to get snubbed by genshin AGAIN)
Well lethal was and still is early access so I believe it doesn't count. And it also won the better with friends steam awards anyways
@ I guess but wary access is kind of an arbitrary title when you still pay and it’s fully functional it’s never gonna be as popular as it was again
the fact a dlc was nominated is crazy
Absolutely insane
Phantom pain was amazing dlc
While I'm glad Astro Bot won, why the fuck was a DLC and a remake nominees for GOTY and NOT Helldivers 2 or even Space Marines 2
Agreed. Such a shame.
Never even heard of Astro Bot personally, but HD2 and SM2 definitely deserved nominations.
Atleast the muppets spoke for us absolute cinema ngl
Cause it didn't spread some stupid woke BS or at least that is the biggest theory I've seen and I'm starting to believe it
Remember: after 2022, the game awards hold no meaning.
That’s a fair assessment
What happened in 2022, I can’t remember?
The illuminate update just dropped and it's awesome! Alien zombies with guns. It's perfect ❤
Looks so cool dude! Can’t wait to try it out.
It’s like cod zombies
Absolutely horrifying if you are still in the city at night, with fog.
@Uzyvan6 awesome!
@@Uzyvan6it was pitch black when we played we had a car and all we could see was the tripod chasing us it was amazing
Why is the gaming award is a joke this year man i like the good old days where they pick the best game i'm not picking random s***triple a games
Total joke
Nah this game awards was solid. Just because its AAA doesn’t mean its bad. Not every game is made by bethesda
Blackrock told Sony, we’re trying to peddle WW3 here we can’t have the whole globe playing the best multiplayer game of all time working in harmony across continents.
“Nuke it”
Most problems with the modern world stem from Blackrock
Lol might not be too far-fetched 🤣
@@theagent315 they just love to meddle
@@lAMDEWAN I’m telling you, they knew what they were doing. The community was too strong and too friendly. Russians, Chinese, everyone was fighting a common cause whilst laughing at propaganda and fighting in “phony” wars.
It’s satire on film and life and we all loved it and they hated that!
@@theagent315 blackrock also own Sony btw , not a wild stab in the dark
At least Helldivers gave us a Live Bit! Im not salty because of Astro Bot either, I'd rather have a platformer from a genuine studio than f$cking Cod any day of the week
I will 100% agree on that
Helldivers 2 deserved it
It truly did
The fact that those 3 got in, but not Space marine and Helldivers truly is something, and hey at least you helldivers won something, us Angels of death just got 2 really underwhleming mentions lmfao
It really is something. You poor guys 🤣
3:26 they didn't hear the feedback they heard the refunds💀
they didn't care for the refuns when the people that are meant to sell the literally told people to stop buying it cuz its not the time yet.
They heard the refunds from hearing the feedback 🧠😎
I think all the Sony stuff and the nerfs that killed the player base is what kept it from winning
It probably did
Helldivers 2 is a one of a kind game, it deserved that Multiplayer GOTY award for sure, the other games did not come close to the impact and absolute hype that helldivers 2 got. We probably won’t see another game like this until the next console generation.
Agreed, the game is very special.
What it should have been
Black myth wukong
Final fantasy Vll
Palworld
Helldivers
Astro bot
Metaphor
Solid
Helldivers 2 should have at least been nominated! Not a remake and a DLC. Me personally I am a strong Wukong advocate
I’m with you on that
0:45 ok, robot deserved it, let’s admit that
Of all those games, sure. Still think BMW had a fair shot.
Balatro is amazing as well, especially because it’s indie and solo dev
Helldivers 2 deserved GOTY. It was mine and a lot of other people's GOTY. I still don't understand why a fricking DLC got nominated over it.
Probably the issues it had for almost a full year, steam was going against there 2 hour refund policy to refund the game to people, that almost never happens.
Crazy times
These kind of award shows are always bs even the ones for tv shows, movies and especially anime
This is true
Sony robbed Helldivers
Yup
Helldivers 2 legit made a war declaration, and a call to arms
Precisely
We all know Black Myth Wukong is GOTY. Helldivers 2 should have won action game too tho and Wukong art direction + GOTY.
Well-deserved game
The reason why I held over two was not nominated. It was quite simply they weren’t going to nominate to begin with so they weren’t going to nominated afterward, and they were not prepared for how big of a success it was, but also by the time the nomination process began it was around the time of escalation of freedom so at that time it was a dumpster fire, and it was not deemed a nominee at the time.
I think that’s an interesting take. So you believe the awards are essentially determined amongst the media beforehand?
@ it’s what always happens with big partners because they like predictable things. This stuff takes months they probably start deciding close to March or April.
It’s so unfair to see HellDivers not get GOTY Nomination and just get 2 awards. It should have gotten it over a DLC. It was disappointing But the good thing is they came out with an ass kicking update and now, I’m done with the game awards.
Completely agree. We’ll stick to the new update 👍
Astro Bot is the reason. Both it and HD2 are Sony products, but Astro is Sony's mainline product. They wanted it to run impended so it could get more publicity.
Fair enough, that’s a legitimate possibility.
It's such a shame, especially when helldivers was able to bring people together and cooperate for a common goal. Hell, it even still blurs the line of consoles with many still begging sony to let the game be released on xbox
Such a good point about bringing the entire gaming community together. What a day that was.
Idk about that bringing people together for a common goal when everyone in the community is shitting their pants and yelling at people for not doing MO
The game awards are a joke anyways.
Total joke
They now add illuminate and instantly raise player count on Steam alone up to 100k again so its 3rd impossible
Great point! Amazing update.
I like how Arrowhead won the community back 3 times
Literally 😂 I can’t turn on them though
You won’t see a single helldivers player complaining about this. We’re too busy with our new update plus the game awards have been meaningless for years.
New update is amazing
The undemocratic game awards that only gave people's vote 10 percent the value of their manufactured importance.
Democracy must prevail. It WILL prevail.
I still cant believe that DOOM lost to Overwatch and then to TLOU 2 .
Crazy year
Not only did Helldivers 2 get snubbed, but one of the categories it won it absolutely did not deserve to. Until the Illuminate dropped during the Game Awards, Helldivers 2 really has not had much in the way of content released in updates.. The game has been hard carried by it's solid gameplay loop since launch, but it's had months of poor balancing, bugfests, and content droughts. Against titles like Fornite or games that were not even nominated like No Mans Sky and Minecraft, Helldivers 2 did not deserve best ongoing game even if it deserved Game of the Year
We could probably go on and on about every category can’t we? Lol
Helldivers 2 should've gotten an award not Elden Ring dlc.
Agreed
But I don’t know about the fan voting thing I mean look at the player voices three of those were Chinese mobile Gacha games then the DLC
Idk there just needs to be a better system
Helldivers 2 won two awards. I'm happy with that.
Ya at least we got 2
This was the best game awards of the last 5 years.
In terms of reveals and discussion yes 😅
Now i know why the illuminate victims are the voteless
👀
I personally love Helldivers 2, and it definitely is my favorite game of this year, but it doesn't deserve game of the year. Between the PSN scandal, Escalation of Freedom nerfs, the lack of major updates for months, and the fact the Sony Graveyard was nominated, there was no way Helldivers 2 would win Game of the Year. Astro Bot had it in the bag since the start because journalists love it and its competitors was a DLC, poker, a game made by "sexists" or something along those lines, a remake, and a jrpg released about 2 months before award night. I personally think Balatro and the Elden Ring DLC were there to snub Dragon Age from being nominated (Everyone hated it except the journalists) but that isn't proven at all. Atleast a game with a Helldiver in it won, so we take those.
Voting is definitely shady here I will agree on that
10 warbonds and I haven't spent a single dime on Super Credits. Earned every one of them. Tons of fun moments.
Amazing player-friendly Warbond system
Honestly it really depends. Despite the many good things Helldivers 2 has going for it such as the sense of camraderie, it also has many bad things alongside it.
For example, content drought and just generally mediocre to bad updates post destruction of meridia. Escalation of freedom was a frustrating mess and DSS was imo very disappointing considering we were in the dark for almost 3 months for what is spending samples and Req for modifiers that can even make the game even more frustrating (orbital bombardment)
Terrible sense of balance and unecessary nerfs. Many nerfs were never really warranted and while the 60 day patch did fix a good portion of the weapons, there are still weapons that didn't deserve a nerf from before and wasn't reverted or buffed to help (They shadow nerfed the durable damage of the hmg despite the fact they buffed the health pools of all enemies, all buffing the ammo count did was make it take longer and more bullets to kill the same enemy)
Lots of ups and downs but still feel strongly for this game
quick reminder "Sony" is on the directors board for the game awards and astro bot is pretty much the peak of their campaign to replace lbp/sackboy (who still one their popularity contest). to say the least the game awards was rigged from the start
I would say so
I still thing that there were a lot of issues surrounding Helldivers 2 so i wasn't realy expecting it to win GOTY but I at least expected it to be nominated
Right it should’ve at least been nominated
I am confused how Elden rings dlc was allowed
But cyberpunk phantom liberty wasn’t like 😭 phantom liberty was amazing
No idea lol
04:28 Correction: Arrowhead shot themselves in the KNEE
Oh mb 😅
Are there any problems with the servers right now? Every time I enter a match it kicks me out saying there is no internet connection. But before this update I could play normally.
Yeah that could be due to the update idk
Lots of ppl are on ig
Same, I've never had it before, and my internet is fine, literally hasn't disconnected at all, but it kicks me sometimes, it's fine it ain't a massive issue
Me personally, i dont think it was game of the year, but it did deserve multiplayer game of the year.
At least it got that
Balatro is crazy good, I instead feel the DLC should have been replaced with HD2. I also think astro bot winning is becasue that game was fire and was also made by a truly passionte team.
I respect that
6:01 the thing is, outside of the gameplay itself like media and controversies shouldn’t matter, I absolutely agree helldievrs was snubbed, hell I would have voted for it
But
Astro bit deserves the nomination, the graphics, cheery gameplay, use of the PS5 controller was all beautifully executed, do I think it should win from these picks, yes, do I think it beats helldivers 2, no
Exactly where I stand!!
The Game Awards should not be such a big deal in the first place
Should be for the announcements at the very least
Look I personally disagree about it getting goty, but the other awards it got it deserved. Correct me if I am wrong since I refunded with the psn debacle but a lot of the progression was just levelling war bonds and levelling up to get abilities, if the game had ways to get cool loot from missions directly that would have gone along way for me.
I can respect that. Might just be one of those games people come back to sporadically.
All award ceremonies are a joke. The only reason to watch the Game Awards is for the announcements. At the very least Geoff can claim he's not as big of a farce as the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame or the Oscars
True it’s just for the announcements
GOTY has been a sham since the year 1 AD
Sham of the year?
Gaming is at a low point with triple AAA games and their scummy tactics to squeeze every bit money out of gamers.
Cmon, look at CoD when it was pulling same amount of active players as HD2 (peak). Respect fans and make product the product with good effort.
Exactly right
It's been my main multiplayer game since launch and made me love multiplayer again, even if it's PvE. It was the biggest gaming phenomenon of the year and brought fun back to online!
Absolutely right, it’s a phenomenal game 🙌
Ngl idk how I should feel about Astro bot wining goty. I loved it at launch and still do but I feel like another game should have won.
Ikwym. Wukong maybe could’ve got the nod.
Helldivers is a masterpiece. Goodwork here sir.
Thank you! It sure is a masterpiece.
Game awards suck its just the hosts glazing its old nominees and AAA Studios the whole time while the actual games being shown are the same exact thing over and over and over
It really does suck
if helldivers came out 3 months ago it would have won in my opinion it released in January or something judges have tunnel vision
Yeah it sucks that timing plays a factor
Definitely deserves a mention
100%
everything pointed out in this vids is true for me...also i still blame Sony for what happened to the HD2 selling point..
And they still end up winning with Astro Bot 😅
Let's make a player game award. Allow no media to meddle in the process.
I dont think helldivers deserve game of the year nor does stellar blade. However, wukong and the Elden Ring DLC were huge contenders.we all thought it was between them 2. Just to get destroyed by Astrobot out of no where 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rko outta nowhere lol
Balatro is an indie darling and for good reason. Nothing has pushed the roguelike deckbuilder genre in such a unique direction since Slay the Spire. It will spawn many imitators and innovators in the years to come just as StS did. Calling it poker is needlessly reductive and just shows you have no idea what its even about. Why not call Minecraft Legos while we're at it.
A good game is more than just being high budget. Balatro shows that one man with a smart idea and great execution can create something that can hook so many people. Not every nominee for game of the year has to be a third person action game.
My argument was not that it wasn’t good. It’s that Helldivers 2 is just a better game and has a crazy storyline outside of the game itself.
Good on that developer for innovating and taking over that genre.
Helldivers 2 should have gotten game of the year.
It should have
i say to give fans 60% and the judges 40% so that the judges still have a say but if that doesnt work 70 30 split is good
I’ll take it.
I sincerely believe Helldivers 2 deserves game of the year, but it seeing it not get that award doesn't annoy me. We all know TGA is rigged af. What DOES annoy me is it not even getting nominated, as you mentioned in the video. Its such an insult to Arrowhead and the gaming community will remember it. Ultimately, WE decide game of the year. Not them. And I've made my vote (for managed democracy).
For managed democracy ✊
10% media 90% players...better yet remove the media all together
Might have to
of all things a dlc almost became "Game of the year" and its not even a stand alone game which makes it unfair sure its good but you have to own the game its from
Agreed on that
HD2 was damn near impossible to squad up with friends when the game launched. It took months to fix that and the sizable number of gameplay bugs. This isn’t even talking about how a portion of the community was sabotaging the game from the inside nor the fans feeling underpowered for like 6 months.
Then there are the multi-100+ hour players that complain about a lack of new content. Like some of these mfs have spent more time in game than seeing the morning sun. The fans are FICKLE, and I am saying this as a fan. HD2 is amazing but no small portion of the player base is responsible for the negative pr.
I found it funny elden ring shadow of the erdtree got put up so since helldivers 2 wasn’t there I voted for it cuz I actually like fromsoft and the dlc was just another game for its content and I didn’t find Astro bot deserved it since it’s just not fair to other gamers that don’t have a ps5 but hey good job Astro bot.
Fair points, cg to Astro Bot
Tried other games over the last year and I just had to come back to HD2 after a few minutes this game is sooo good and most importantly so much fun. I legit look forward to playing on Fridays with the boys
Feel that, it’s such a fun game.
1:41 smaller teams more likely to make better games because with small team easier to communicate to each other plan stuff out like Starfield had soo many ppl work on it and it didn’t turn out right because of lack of communication and stuff
True it definitely helps
Astrobot didnt deserve that no fkn way
Not over HD2
Pathetic
@@lAMDEWANthis I agree, balatro and Elden should be removed, I think HD2 beats all game son the list but especially the 2 I named
@PufflePufflePuffle yup
"robbed" you say ? yeah i mean the devs also robbed us of the game we had and loved for almost 6 months so you know.... fans opinions change and helldviers 2 truly doesn't deserve the goty. the internet never forgets.
To each their own
It's because the game awards is shit. Even with the flaws, one of the best games made
Unfortunately so 💩
The awards are given when money is given, no ceremony is as validating as that.
Money talks and BS walks
shadow of the nerftree. balatro i had never heard of and world series of poker done that to death. astro bot is good. final fantasy vii rebirth is a remaster and its not on six discs anyway (i remember that vividly, being astonished i had to change discs during the game). not sure any of those but astro bot should have been nominated. how can a dlc be GOTY when it had to be nerfed to be playable?
How can a dlc be goty period
Hey, they always have another chance with a DLC, because that's a thing now. An honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was worked out ahead of that awards that AstroBot would win. It just so happens to be the 30th anniversary of Playstation and the game that is nominated is not just any game from any studio they own, its their first party studio with a game about what is effectively an homage of the history of PlayStation and the main character is effectively Playstations version of Nintendos Mario. It would be like if it was a big anniversary for Nintendo, and they won game of the year with their own first party studio with their flagship character. Not to say AStrobot shouldnt of won any awards but you cant help but call bullshit.
Glad you pointed that out. If it looks like BS, smells like BS, and so on, it’s BS.
I’m gonna be seeing it now as the astral world was a great game, but I don’t think it should’ve been in the game awards ring on the other hand, Elden rings DLC it’s just a straight up game straight up just a game.
So you say SOTE should be classified as a game?
@@lAMDEWAN look helldivers is a blast. but lets not pretend the game hasn't had constant issues since it launched both from the game itself to the dev team making it . they devs literally had to roll most nerfs back to get a fraction of their playerbase back. the game has also died 2 times since launch. but about SOTE no it should never have been nominated it doesn't fit the criteria for a standalone game.
@jasonstapleton139 it definitely has had its issues. But surviving catastrophes multiple times and getting another big revival is insane! But yes the game sure is a blast 👍
The issue is not Entirely the game awards fault, it is Sony. if Sony had not destroyed Helldivers 2 for what it was (IE the PSN blockade of over 170 countries), then 100%, Helldivers 2 would be nominated and have an extravagantly high chance of winning atleast something (Game of the year being on the table as well)... However, as i said, its not entirely their fault, only some of it, but that "some" is still significant in comparison to its competition.
I get that. I just wish the game itself wouldn’t get punished for it.
Even though Sony were requiring the PSN linking, the whole debacle wasn’t solely their fault, Arrowhead & Steam also had a part to play.
1) Arrowhead for temporarily disabling the requirement during launch then completely forgetting about it & not making it clear that it wasn’t optional until Sony came knocking.
2) Steam for not making it clear enough that account linking is required, it’s basically a fine print.
3) Sony for selling where they shouldn’t have as per the requirements.
If the requirement was implemented properly people wouldn’t have complained as much, a lot of big companies now either require or are moving in the direction to require linking accounts but we don’t see a big fuss about it.
This is also very true.
Helldivers 2 is NOT an indie game in any way. 100 people and 7 years of dev time takes a massive amount of money that was only possible because it was funded AND published by Sony
Indie studio and AAA publisher. Another trophy for them.
Helldivers did not deserve game of the year, Black Myth: Wukong did.
Another great game
Too many controversial choices, but boy did their latest update cook!
Absolutely dude, what a great update!
This is what happens when you dont allow manage democracy
True we need to spread more managed democracy.. fortunately the new update has been doing just that.
The amount of shit Balatro one is a fucking joke, I do not care I will die on this hill. A card game getting more awards than something like Elden Ring is disgusting.
I don’t get it either
Bro a stupid mario clone won goty.....but helldivers got best multiplayer gane AND best ongoing game thats still huge
It’s nice but it should’ve gotten goty too, such a snub
It's basically Political Machine like in the 19s century
Essentially
it's the GOTY in my eyes, who cares what TGA says
Same
Balatro, which i didnt pay for, i enjoyed as a mobile game, astro bot is cool and good but not GOTY good. Hd2 is GOTY good and i think playstation is partialy responsible for negativity but the devs also shot themselves in the foot too
Agreed, it’s a shame HD2 got snubbed because of it.
They won best multi-player game
They did
I got helldivers yesterday because it was on sale on steam and it is fun I easily spent 2hrs on it and it cool had some connection issues but most games have that
Yeah you’ll continue to love it, especially with this new update.
They weren’t robbed by the game awards. Sony robbed them long before that with the PlayStation account debacle. It was so bad that they haven’t fully recovered since.
Eh I wouldn’t say they haven’t “recovered”. Do they still have 200k+ active players on steam? No. But they’ve maintained a dedicated fan base and have just released an update that looks very good.
But yes it was a horrible move by Sony. HD2 shouldn’t get punished for that is what I’m saying. Genuinely such a fun game.
I legit forgot about helldivers lol was pretty fun for a bit tho
Just got a new update, looks really good.
I think helldivers should have been nominated but the sony issue damaged the game so much man. You still can't play the game in over 100 countries now despite sony walking back their decision. The nerfs that happened were another huge issue and that was entirely on the devs. I disagree that Astro Bot shouldn't have been there. The game had bettsr critic and USER scores and it didn't have any type of issues. While I like helldivers more than anything this year I simply can't agree with you on the astro bot point. That was a well deserved nomination and win for that game.
I hear you, the Sony situation is crazy. Should’ve never happened.
But my point about Astro Bot wasn’t that it didn’t deserve to be on the list at all, I just don’t believe it belonged over HD2. Kick another game out and id be happy lol like Balatro.
@lAMDEWAN I can see where you're coming from, but look at it like this. If helldivers was nominated over astro bot who had no issues at all while being reviewed by users and critics higher than helldivers then astro bot would have been robbed. That's why I don't agree with including astro bot in your list of games helldivers could have replaced. I think it should have been there instead of the elden ring dlc for sure tho. Can't speak on the card game since I didn't play it, so I don't want to talk about something I'm not familiar with. Either way, helldivers is still my personal favorite game despite the highs and lows it's had. Also, the new update is absolutely amazing man. I started downloading it as soon as it was announced, and I didn't sleep at all last night cuz I stayed up playing, and the time just flew by. The fact that we just got it for free is insane when literally any other company would have charged money for it, and nobody would have complained.
That’s fair.
Also YES the update looks amazing, can’t wait to play. Sounds like it’s a damn good update when the time flies like that 😅
But you are missing one key issue, fans and the loudest ones are the ones who casual play Mostly AAA games. We saw this with the fan vote too
Yeah voting is screwed up
Well seeing as the game awards is a joke ran by clowns that might be a good thing, but honestly, who cares what the game awards thinks about what I should like. I play games that I find fun, end of story.
That’s right, we will stick to fighting for democracy.