Finally someone that understands surface prep and is doing the painting the proper way. So many ignore a clean surface and priming because that takes too much time and money. But the surface prep IS the key to a quality finish of anything, if you want it to both look good and last. Thumbs Up!
Ya know , for starting out behind the 8 ball, y’all got a lot done. I knew an older fella years ago who was a “body man” when I said how good it turned out he said yep, 90% prep and 10% paint. Last year when I rebuilt my 46 Gibson I recalled his words . Good to see a Son and his Dad doing a quality restoration job and enjoying it 👍
You guys sure do nice work, that is going to be one nice M. You guys probably know this old trick, a little dab of valve grinding compound on a stripped phillips head or slotted head screw will usually get a grip and you back the screw right out. It works better than you think it would!
One thing I learned a long time ago, remove the grease zerks and install pipe plugs. Paint over the grease zerks then you have a stuck ball valve on those zerks. As for the PTO shaft, you're right, don't paint them but, slobber them with grease. That alone protects them. You're getting closer to getting the old "M" up and running. Great video, cheers :)
I really appreciate all the effort. work, and time you take on working through your projects. After watching you, I would be willing to tackle a project like something you've done. Really appreciate it!
Coast to Coast hardware stores - I haven't heard that name in 40+ years. My mom used to take me there for mini bike parts - nuts & bolts back in the day.
Thomas Stewart We had one in our small North Texas town 25 - 30 years ago, I have an MTD made Coast To Coast brand rear tine 5 HP tiller I bought from them that is still in pretty good condition.
Your transmission top cover is showing signs of casting "cold shuts" where the iron was just a fraction too cold to flow fully round the chaplets ( discs ) and melt them into the casting. Chaplets are used to hold a core or section at a given distance or cross section - just mild steel. Normally they would melt in and vanish. You can probably see the marks from a few more on the same surface where they worked correctly.
@@maggs131 It was my entire post-school training and apprenticeship, and about eight years after I qualified the whole foundry industry closed down. 8-) Shares in Elon Musk saved my sanity.
@@gordonmcmillan883 that's awful that something you had a firm foothold on broke out from underneath you like that but on a brighter note you will live longer as I consider foundry work as unhealthy as welding. I worked in a titanium facility for 10 years before they downsized and I'm almost glad because that place was so toxic
@@gordonmcmillan883 Is that because of the industry going overseas to places like China? Same places where so much of our industry has gone. So many companies, known for proven quality products, shipped there--- only thing left is the name we USED to know and poor quality products sold under the name now. I guess that is what happens when bean counters and shareholders look at ONLY THE BOTTOM LINE. Meanwhile, good jobs are lost here and shipped elsewhere. Our society is worse off for it!
@@squatch253 Your attention to detail in the prep work will definitely pay dividends, in appearance and longevity. Your point on the material choice is certainly understood, in fact I made the same choice on the tractors I have painted. That being said, I've seen my share of very poorly executed paint jobs with high-dollar materials. They look very nice from afar but are far from nice up close. Anyway, looking forward to the next installment!
I had no idea a thread file existed. I've spent way too much time with fine file and a flashlight cleaning up burs. The valve grinding compound idea was also a great tip to finish it up nicely. Wisdom and experience through and through.
That fancy yellow handled file is a nut file used to cut slots when making a new nut for a guitar or other stringed instruments. They can be had from about .009 to 056.
Also... old radio and electronic stuff thats mechanical...ive seen similar files meant (or pehaps purposed?) to cut grooves and slots for electronic wires and for strings or wires for moving tuning elements and similar stuff.
I been waiting to see another video of yours i feel like I missed skiped shop class . That thing is gonna really look sharp can't wait to hear it run again 👍👍🚜👍
I remember the first video of the Farmall series you said it was gonna be a quick Engine job, what happened? LOL. Great job guys. I love the channel. 🙂❤️🙏
I always say the worst part is cleaning and surface prep. It is one of the reasons I enjoy original tractors so much. Character, and pure functionality.
For what it is worth I've never had an issue with paint adhesion on seeping cast. Spend some time with wax and grease remover to get the surface free of oil. Spray problem areas with JD buff primer immediately after. Yes I use JD primer on everything. I don't know exactly what JD does with their paints and primers but it is very high quality. Blitz black on axles and splines is pretty sexy against IH red, and it is some seriously tough paint.
@@squatch253 I've slid hubs over blitz black and you would think I painted the axles after the hub install. I operate identical to you guys so I feel confident you would get the same result. I do add Valspar hardener to Blitz Black (I add it to all JD paint). I used to paint professionally and I couldn't tell you what that hardener does because it is not like a typical two part paint system (ie it won't kick off in your gun or paint can). With JD paint it does allow the paint to flow out a bit longer and does improve color retention and resists chips a bit better. I tested the hardener with IH, and MM paint and could not determine any benefit.
You put that 1/2 pully on the crank, if you're going to be using that tractor for equipment that should have live hydraulic, such as a loader, the crank is a good place to put on a sprocket to mount a hydraulic pump on the outside of the frame rail. Neither belly pump nor pto is not good place to use for hydraulic to power a loader.
Thank you for the video.We have a burnt tractor that I want to repaint-not sure if I'm capable of such detail.I guess I'm interested in preventing rust.
So mostly a wire wheel or cup to get old paint off? Does not look like you sand blast? I have a Cub to paint and might get away wiring in garage but no sand so I would love to know how you do it. Thank you in advance.
how many more project are you going to start and not finish. you NEVER finish anything you start . very good at what you do .the mm x231 will never be finish.
what projects are unfinished then? o.k progress on x231 is a bit slow, but this tractor, the plows, the 5j1113 Cat dozer and the Cat grader are all coming along great! Im pretty sure this tractor will be done this year, and the 5j1113 dozer will probably be done next spring. Thats not bad at all considering their ridiculous attention to every little detail... next to having a daytime job, a sort of farm operation, and probably some family people thing at home that requires some attention once in a while too
Well that is how it goes. Lots of irons in the fire. A guy works on what he wants to based on mood or constraints. I doubt you would speak to either of these men like you just commented on their video. Lets work on those communication skills. You will be less angry, and more pleasant to be around.
Hey Dale, I have a lot of projects in progress but not finished myself. Want to come over and talk about it in person? I’ll give you the short version here. I work on whatever I feel like working on. Period. It’s my life and I enjoy it in my own way. I prefer the variety and enjoy working on many things at once. People like you love to drop by and tell me what I will and won’t ever finish. Frankly, I could not possibly care less what gets finished, because it’s the work that interests me, not the finished product. I have a good friend who is just the opposite. He starts something, then is driven to finish it to perfection. After he finishes, he is restless and bored. He can’t work on his project again because it’s perfect. He can’t start another major project because his shop is perfect and he can’t stand having it dirty again with the finished project housed there. That’s how he likes it and it’s none of my business. I prefer to get up each day and have a big menu of things to do. Today, my choices are working on a big shop fan I was given, a band saw I’m rebuilding, cutting gears, fixing a window lift motor, working on my power hammer, evaluating an RF power amplifier, repairing a transmitter, modifying a subwoofer. Those are the active projects today. Over the winter I too have a Super M engine rebuild to do, should overhaul my Cub, will work on my telephone switch, might install an antenna tower, wire up a switchboard, might even begin a VW engine rebuild. I’m sure I’ll interrupt all of that to slab a fallen tree and do a little forging. I sense that Squatch is driven more by need, since he uses his machines more than I do. He’s also busy with work. It’s tough to do major rebuilds on top of a full time job. TH-cam summaries make it look like fast work. It’s certainly not. These guys have my respect for all they accomplish. So yeah, guys like us NEVER finish anything we start. SO WHAT?
Great idea with the pin and set screw, is wonderful that you pass the knowledge to your kit, is very recursive, 👌💯❌💯
Finally someone that understands surface prep and is doing the painting the proper way. So many ignore a clean surface and priming because that takes too much time and money. But the surface prep IS the key to a quality finish of anything, if you want it to both look good and last. Thumbs Up!
Gary Mucher prep is everything no matter what your doing
Ya know , for starting out behind the 8 ball, y’all got a lot done. I knew an older fella years ago who was a “body man” when I said how good it turned out he said yep, 90% prep and 10% paint. Last year when I rebuilt my 46 Gibson I recalled his words . Good to see a Son and his Dad doing a quality restoration job and enjoying it 👍
Now I really liked the way you explained the crankshaft pulley... just wish there was a video like this for about every international tractor lol
You guys sure do nice work, that is going to be one nice M. You guys probably know this old trick, a little dab of valve grinding compound on a stripped phillips head or slotted head screw will usually get a grip and you back the screw right out. It works better than you think it would!
One thing I learned a long time ago, remove the grease zerks and install pipe plugs. Paint over the grease zerks then you have a stuck ball valve on those zerks. As for the PTO shaft, you're right, don't paint them but, slobber them with grease. That alone protects them. You're getting closer to getting the old "M" up and running. Great video, cheers :)
Just put new zerks after paint lol
I really appreciate all the effort. work, and time you take on working through your projects. After watching you, I would be willing to tackle a project like something you've done. Really appreciate it!
Man! Senior is the 'block off the old chip'
As much detail work that you-all have put into it, it will be better than factory new from back in the day.
Coast to Coast hardware stores - I haven't heard that name in 40+ years. My mom used to take me there for mini bike parts - nuts & bolts back in the day.
Thomas Stewart
We had one in our small North Texas town 25 - 30 years ago, I have an MTD made Coast To Coast brand rear tine 5 HP tiller I bought from them that is still in pretty good condition.
It is so cool to see it coming together again. I can’t wait to hear it run.
I can’t either my grandfather has a super m that he just had restored and she purrs
Your transmission top cover is showing signs of casting "cold shuts" where the iron was just a fraction too cold to flow fully round the chaplets ( discs ) and melt them into the casting. Chaplets are used to hold a core or section at a given distance or cross section - just mild steel. Normally they would melt in and vanish. You can probably see the marks from a few more on the same surface where they worked correctly.
Cool info. You obviously have extensive casting experience
@@maggs131 It was my entire post-school training and apprenticeship, and about eight years after I qualified the whole foundry industry closed down. 8-) Shares in Elon Musk saved my sanity.
@@gordonmcmillan883 that's awful that something you had a firm foothold on broke out from underneath you like that but on a brighter note you will live longer as I consider foundry work as unhealthy as welding. I worked in a titanium facility for 10 years before they downsized and I'm almost glad because that place was so toxic
@@gordonmcmillan883 Is that because of the industry going overseas to places like China? Same places where so much of our industry has gone. So many companies, known for proven quality products, shipped there--- only thing left is the name we USED to know and poor quality products sold under the name now. I guess that is what happens when bean counters and shareholders look at ONLY THE BOTTOM LINE. Meanwhile, good jobs are lost here and shipped elsewhere. Our society is worse off for it!
@@maggs131 Moved into the oil industry, made some money, never looked back. Not healthy I'll agree.
Man, that Super M is gonna look like a million bucks
@@squatch253 Your attention to detail in the prep work will definitely pay dividends, in appearance and longevity. Your point on the material choice is certainly understood, in fact I made the same choice on the tractors I have painted. That being said, I've seen my share of very poorly executed paint jobs with high-dollar materials. They look very nice from afar but are far from nice up close. Anyway, looking forward to the next installment!
Good tips on the thread cleanup senior. She will be shiny soon.
I had no idea a thread file existed. I've spent way too much time with fine file and a flashlight cleaning up burs. The valve grinding compound idea was also a great tip to finish it up nicely. Wisdom and experience through and through.
Such a great job sir I have never seen a file like that I wish I could have half your knowledge ☺️ God bless you and your family
Once you own a set of thread files you'll wonder how you've lived without them
Thread file is such a useful often overlooked tool 💪 loved the tip about using corks to block up passages 👍👍 great work 💪
That will be a show quality restoration. Would get a trophy at most tractor shows!
Incredible amount of work getting ready.
Good job building that pin for holding on the crank pulley.
Like your restoration and the methodical way you do it, enjoyed watching. Thanks for sharing.
... ABSOLUTLY great 'olde worlde' mechanicing skills ....
What great quality work you do love your videos thank you for sharing 🚜 God bless y'all, and stay safe buddy
Thread files are an unsung heroes of the toolbox
That fancy yellow handled file is a nut file used to cut slots when making a new nut for a guitar or other stringed instruments. They can be had from about .009 to 056.
Also... old radio and electronic stuff thats mechanical...ive seen similar files meant (or pehaps purposed?) to cut grooves and slots for electronic wires and for strings or wires for moving tuning elements and similar stuff.
Great work guys, 👍
Nice teaser at the beginning this time. Nice work! Full watch and thumbs up!
I been waiting to see another video of yours i feel like I missed skiped shop class . That thing is gonna really look sharp can't wait to hear it run again 👍👍🚜👍
I remember the first video of the Farmall series you said it was gonna be a quick Engine job, what happened? LOL. Great job guys. I love the channel. 🙂❤️🙏
Good progress! I was wondering how you would fair the storm. Glad to hear a close call was the only damage you got.
I use that Permatex #2 a lot. Good stuff! At some point I get to do all this when I finally put my C back together......
I always say the worst part is cleaning and surface prep. It is one of the reasons I enjoy original tractors so much. Character, and pure functionality.
@@squatch253 I know how you feel. I don't own any nice clothes anymore. Most of them have a grease stain, paint mark, or tear somewhere! Ha ha.
For what it is worth I've never had an issue with paint adhesion on seeping cast. Spend some time with wax and grease remover to get the surface free of oil. Spray problem areas with JD buff primer immediately after. Yes I use JD primer on everything. I don't know exactly what JD does with their paints and primers but it is very high quality. Blitz black on axles and splines is pretty sexy against IH red, and it is some seriously tough paint.
@@squatch253 I've slid hubs over blitz black and you would think I painted the axles after the hub install. I operate identical to you guys so I feel confident you would get the same result. I do add Valspar hardener to Blitz Black (I add it to all JD paint). I used to paint professionally and I couldn't tell you what that hardener does because it is not like a typical two part paint system (ie it won't kick off in your gun or paint can). With JD paint it does allow the paint to flow out a bit longer and does improve color retention and resists chips a bit better. I tested the hardener with IH, and MM paint and could not determine any benefit.
The term for abrading the surface for paint to stick is "giving it tooth"
Looking good, it will be a brand new tractor
Nice job on the M
looking good. wish i could be out doing some painting but our california "snow" is here in full force and landing everywhere
Great tips Sr.!
You put that 1/2 pully on the crank, if you're going to be using that tractor for equipment that should have live hydraulic, such as a loader, the crank is a good place to put on a sprocket to mount a hydraulic pump on the outside of the frame rail. Neither belly pump nor pto is not good place to use for hydraulic to power a loader.
Aw, I was totally waiting for "it's Dew time"...
I have never heard of a "tread file", looks useful.
I use White gas AKA camp stove fuel for cleaning oil out of cast iron it works good and no film left
Have my like!
I new you lived not to far from me. Closer to winter i'll invite you out to my shop.
Looking good. 👍
Really , really nice work. Will the rebuild engine need a lead substitute for the gas. To protect the valves. Just wondering 😊
Thank you for the video.We have a burnt tractor that I want to repaint-not sure if I'm capable of such detail.I guess I'm interested in preventing rust.
Looking good 😊👍👍👍👍🍵🍵
Gosh I’m 3 vids behind, what’s going on in Yorkshire!!
I think the old girl needs a shiny chrome shift lever like Kenny Kizzle's. 😜
I like it!
that tractor will be a show stopper when you are thru
Zdravim chcem sa spýtať aké čislo odtieň červenej farby ste použil.
excellent prep job! is there a belt pulley on the floor?
dang it! 2nd
So mostly a wire wheel or cup to get old paint off? Does not look like you sand blast? I have a Cub to paint and might get away wiring in garage but no sand so I would love to know how you do it. Thank you in advance.
@@squatch253 thank you for the response, I know you are a busy man! Great work and hope you have a great evening!
Well. I have to put 4th, now don't I :-).
How’s the field coming along?
3rd
It’s called “tooth”. You sand to give it some tooth.
how many more project are you going to start and not finish. you NEVER finish anything you start . very good at what you do .the mm x231 will never be finish.
We need an update on the Minnie Mo!
Shut your fool mouth! You have NOTHING to show for yourself and have no right to be so childish.
what projects are unfinished then? o.k progress on x231 is a bit slow, but this tractor, the plows, the 5j1113 Cat dozer and the Cat grader are all coming along great! Im pretty sure this tractor will be done this year, and the 5j1113 dozer will probably be done next spring.
Thats not bad at all considering their ridiculous attention to every little detail... next to having a daytime job, a sort of farm operation, and probably some family people thing at home that requires some attention once in a while too
Well that is how it goes. Lots of irons in the fire. A guy works on what he wants to based on mood or constraints. I doubt you would speak to either of these men like you just commented on their video. Lets work on those communication skills. You will be less angry, and more pleasant to be around.
Hey Dale, I have a lot of projects in progress but not finished myself. Want to come over and talk about it in person? I’ll give you the short version here.
I work on whatever I feel like working on. Period. It’s my life and I enjoy it in my own way. I prefer the variety and enjoy working on many things at once. People like you love to drop by and tell me what I will and won’t ever finish. Frankly, I could not possibly care less what gets finished, because it’s the work that interests me, not the finished product.
I have a good friend who is just the opposite. He starts something, then is driven to finish it to perfection. After he finishes, he is restless and bored. He can’t work on his project again because it’s perfect. He can’t start another major project because his shop is perfect and he can’t stand having it dirty again with the finished project housed there. That’s how he likes it and it’s none of my business.
I prefer to get up each day and have a big menu of things to do. Today, my choices are working on a big shop fan I was given, a band saw I’m rebuilding, cutting gears, fixing a window lift motor, working on my power hammer, evaluating an RF power amplifier, repairing a transmitter, modifying a subwoofer. Those are the active projects today.
Over the winter I too have a Super M engine rebuild to do, should overhaul my Cub, will work on my telephone switch, might install an antenna tower, wire up a switchboard, might even begin a VW engine rebuild. I’m sure I’ll interrupt all of that to slab a fallen tree and do a little forging.
I sense that Squatch is driven more by need, since he uses his machines more than I do. He’s also busy with work. It’s tough to do major rebuilds on top of a full time job. TH-cam summaries make it look like fast work. It’s certainly not. These guys have my respect for all they accomplish.
So yeah, guys like us NEVER finish anything we start. SO WHAT?