How to Mix a Spawn Bag
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video I show you how to mix a spawn bag that is 10% colonized.
0:00 Intro
1:22 Mixing the Spawn Bags
9:31 Mycelium Time Lapse
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All your videos are just so to the point and super helpful for beginners. Thank you so much for all your effort
Your channel is perfect for this newbie hobbyist. 👌
Glad you think so! Thank you!
I know this was 2 years ago but I was freakin out about even touching my bags/jars sense it's my first time lol I'm definitely shaking them up in the morning. I wish I could find an irl myco community where I'm at in the mitten. I'm just starting out and live in a small town and idk anyone to talk to and share ideas/ask questions and just chill and talk/grow or whatever lol. TH-cam vids from 2 years ago will have to do for now LOL. Thank you!
Just now figuring it out myself, how did your first bag end up going?
Satisfied with this makes me feel more confident in my grow bags definitely wasn't breaking it up enough
Another awesome video.
Thanks again!
This part is so satisfying to me, at this stage in my research. Even watching another person do it, is stimulating my brain!
This is why I switched from Jars to Bags. Bags are so much easier to mix up and spread the Myc around. I will never go back to jars.
I'm at this point now. Thank you for your help
Hi! I was having trouble with my mono tubs and I was doing the exact same tech. I think my coco coir fiber wasn't conducive to a good environment so I started using the echo stuff for reptile cages. I went from agar isolation, to LC, to 10lb blocks, just waiting for 3 bins now :) thanks for the info!
No problem. Thank you!
Do not order from Spawn Magic. They have been recommended by other Mycologists with a promo code but they are frauds. Look up reviews
Turn your bag on its head. Then, inoculate with a syringe. Gravity will take it from there.
Also, try not to touch/tamper your bag filter on a crush up session. Work around it to keep it clean and clear. This will avoid possible contamination and clogging.
Thanks for the tips!
Yeah----i noobed my first 3 by covering the filter up on folding. Too moist and got that green mold fun.
Yes, the filter should not be touched by grains or hands at all. I was really surprised when she did this.
Its been 7 days since inoculation and grain bag seems super dry and im seeing a tiny bit of whiteness, looks like mycelium on the side of the bag!?! Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks for the video! What’s approx time till the bag rea king the 10% ?
Dose the bag need to be mixed more than once ????? Before it goes to the mono tub.
Exclude the mix when it’s fully inoculated and going into the mono tub.
Just starting and don't want to invest in making my own spawn bags yet. Do recommend a seller? Thank you and found your videos very helpful
I am new to spawn bags.....what exactly is the process? I'm not doing bulk, so is the procedure the same as jars? Dunk them when they've colonized and refrigerate for 24? I am obviously just doing the cakes... floating container with pearlite. I've watched videos where they squeeze the bag and break it up?
Not to sure.
Where do you recommend getting spores from? Thanks ✌🏼🌲🍄
Can the fumes from the Iso effect the mycelium through the bag filter?..
Great job
Thank you!
I like how everyones universally agreed to keep the likes at 420
do you have a referral code that we should use for the Spawn Magic bags? You should certainly get credit for this.
Just got my first 2 bags of pre made spawn and substrate today... Going to inoculate soon and begin my first attempt wish me luck
Awesome! You got this!
@@BoomerShroomer I really hope so but I have been doing my research and wanted to try some premade bags first before I got tooo gutsy
@@zsean6788 for sure! I did it the same way!
@@BoomerShroomer Well just inoculated through shaky hands lol and praying for the best. Im not sure how long it will take to see signs but Im excited to see
@@zsean6788 5-7 days to see growth!
This my 2nd time mixing can you tell me when my bag should be fully colonised i mixed first at 25 percent then again at 80 percent and it wasnt growing so thats why i mixed it at 80
Ok,I innoculated my spawn bag sbout 21 days ago and have no colonization has occurred that I can see, what should I do? Please help
Could I use one of those bags to spawn a 66 qt monotub? If not how many? They are 3lb bags right?
How do you get or make spore syringes with spores in what liquid?
WHERE DO YOU ORDER THE RYE BAGS FROM PLEASE PI HAVE HEARD NO ONE TALK ABOUT A REPUTABLE SELLER
@Boomershroomer
At what point/stage should you a squeeze the substrate
grow bag for better, stronger, and more fruiting?
Or is that not important?
I don't think it is important.
where do you get your bags and what size are they. sorry newbie
Innoculated a little over two weeks ago. I used the same spawn bags and spore syringes that I've used in the past. Temperature between 76-80 in my terrarium. Not a trace of mycellium anywhere. What do you think happened? No any other colors in the bag either, kept a super sterile environment the whole time.
The spores never germinated or they couldn’t find each other. Give the bag a light mix and reset it. Sometimes that will activate it.
What temperature do you keep your spores in?
That's a whole lot of baggies!
Lol yep! And I have more coming!
I feel like the injection port should be closer to the middle for spore syringes. Maybe it doesn't matter. If this bags are sealed and sterilized did you cut them open to use Agar and reseal?
Yes. You have to cut them open to add agar. And the injection port should be in the middle of the grain.
Hey so I did the break and shake on my grain yesterday I checked it this afternoon and it was basically done. I've never seen one finish so quickly. Have you ever encountered a strain like that?
Yes, some strains are super fast.
I just did this but I didn’t sterilize my hands or bags I thought I didn’t need to … did I contaminate my bags ???
How old were these bags at the time?
How big of a monotub can a 3 pound spawn bag fill up?
Link to those awesome bags?
While doing this i noticed my grow bag got a tiny hole on the side seam...i immediately covered it with paper tape but is it doomed? I seriously want to cry! Not touching my other one
Dang, I didn’t realize you could be so ruff with them. I was too scared to do that
Do you have to keep your spawn bags in a specific temperature and in the dark or can it just sit openly in a bedroom on a desk?
Try to keep the bags at 70F+. I had mine in the basement in the 60s for a week and saw no growth at all. Soon after moving it to 73-77F, I started seeing growth. In terms of light, I think some research has been done in this area but it's been a while since I've checked. The TL;DR that I remember is that the bags don't need light...some light won't hurt, but you don't want them to be in constant light.
During incubation, do you have any tips on keeping the mycelium warm? My home is typically around 62 degrees. Your videos are amazing by the way!
You could put a small heater in a room and heat the room. doesn’t have to be too warm but 62 is pretty cold and they would grow pretty slow. Thank you.
Get a seed warming mat. One with an adjustable thermostat.
Do you have a small boiler room or closet? Sounds stupid, but my house is the same, very cold. I ordered little temp and humidity gauges for my mono tubs and I put one of the extras in my boiler room and watched it for a couple of days. Came to find it stays nice and warm in there and right around the right temps. I put mine in a couple 6qt bins with air holes covered in micropore tape in there. Ever since then my bags have been growing much better! It’s been almost 2 weeks and they’re at about 10%. I plan to mix them in a couple more days.
Anyways, maybe check out your boiler room!
Otherwise I wouldn’t waste time with an incubator or heating mats. I tried that for a while and it didn’t seem to work for me.
Otherwise I would 2nd boomer by designating even a little grow closet and get a space heater with thermostat. Keep it away from anything flammable of course, and run it just in the closet while they colonize. Because it’s a small space it shouldn’t be too expensive or anything.
Small adjustable space heater in a closet or cabinet, yea you won’t get much mycelium growth at 62, I set mine at 77 and they’re fast.
So I inoculated the spawn bag with the spores and colonization has not happened yet and it is 22 days in and no growth, what to do???
For bags without self-healing injection ports, what would be best? and what options are there? Thanks for videos.
You can open the bag from the top and squirt some spores from the top. Then seal it back up.
You can also make a self healing injection port with Gasket Silicone and packing tape.
Hi, thank you for this information. What is the solution you're spraying the bags with? I need to make some. ☺️
It's either 70% Alc. or Hydro-Peroxide. Either would work.
How soon can bags be ready to spawn? I have 3 bags 16 days in that are fully colonized. Should I send it or wait for 30 days?
If it’s fully colonized from the inside and out, then wait another 5-7 days then move to substrate
Is it possible to break and shake it too much to the point where the clumps of mycelium are destroyed ? I wish I’d watched this sooner as I think I may have done it a little too hard as I think I might’ve completely destroyed the climbs of mycelium I broke off the partly colonised bit 😭
Me too. After breaking up the clumps, my growth slowed to a halt. Im trying a small heater in the closet to see if I can kickstart mycellium growth again
What’s your thoughts on the bags getting supplemental light during this process?
I am mixed about this thought... They will colonize with light or not.. but I am not sure if they do better with no light. I have done a few experiments and nothing is too dramatic with change.
@@BoomerShroomer thank you! I appreciate the info! Love your vids!
According to Roger Rabbit it needs low level light, not complete darkness, to help promote pinning after it's spawned to sub.
@@vectionnoitcev2836 yep I would agree with him. You do need some light.
Not necessarily at all mine are in the dark the whole time unless I’m looking at them and it works just fine in the dark
Hello again i have yet another ? ...after i buy a sterilized bag of rye berry how long do i have to use it
I would try to use it as soon as you can. But I have kept mine for over a month and they still work great.
How to securely seal a package at home?
Have you ever grown enigma cubensis????
5lb bags? Looks like mabey 5-10% colonization before shake up but your results are amazing! Almost thinking i should shake earlier!!
Yes! You are right. This is a 3 pound bag.
Are there any pros or cons for mixing multiple times during colonization or do you always just mix once?
Good question. I am not sure. I always just mix once.
@@BoomerShroomer good to see what your bags look like at this stage. Thanks for sharing.
@@andyballenger38 thanks for watching
Only crush and mix 1 time.
@@infectedpuddle9906 I did that so they would fully colonize for the video. They were taking forever. I usually only do once. Or none.
Can I transfer colonized spawn material from one spawn bag to a new uninnoculated spawn bag?
Yes
Do you tear off the filter patch or leave it on through the process?
Leave it on
Its been 7 days since inoculation and grain bag seems super dry and im seeing a tiny bit of whiteness, looks like mycelium on the side of the bag!?! Any help would be appreciated!
Any updates? I'm really curious as to how it played out.
Same process for all in one grow bags? I'm planning on transferring to a monotub
You should inquire with the company you're buying from. I'm not sure if you're able to do a break n shake on an all in one bag because you don't want to mix in any substrate to the grains yet. It seems risky.
Keep in mind that break n shakes are not necessary at all.
This video came up automatically while I was busy and all I heard were the bags and now I hate everything
How long did it take for your MSS to start colonizing?
I usually start to see growth on agar in about 5 to 7 days. Then, when you inoculate the spawn bag with the MMS agar. I usually start to see growth in the spawn bag in about 2 days. Agar to grain is much faster than spore to grain. Hope this helps.
@@BoomerShroomer thanks for the info. You also mentioned that 4 of your bags are MSS to grain. How long was that? I plan to do some MSS to agar this week for the first time. Should be exciting.
@@jameshogans1755 MSS to grain is about 5 to 7 days.
@@BoomerShroomer thank you so much!!
I have a few questions... I should be receiving my spawn bags in the mail in a few days. They're just like these with the self-healing injection port and filter patch on the top. I already have my spore syringe and my first question is: after inoculating a spawn bag (I watched your video on inoculating spawn bags), can I put it in a clean cardboard box so that it will be in the dark and away from any airflow? My second question is: I bought a portable digital ceramic heater (750/1500 watts) the other day. It has an adjustable thermostat and I plan on keeping it around 78 degrees as the spawn bag colonizes but how far away should I keep the heater from the box (if it's okay to keep the bag in a box)?
Yeah you can keep them in a cardboard box and just heat the air around the bags. I would say heat the room not the bags. Maybe leave the heater around 70. That should be sufficient for the mushrooms. They get hotter inside the bag as they colonize.
@@BoomerShroomer Thanks for the tips! I forgot that the temperature inside a bag rises. My two 3lb bags arrived in the mail early and I inoculated them tonight with 3 cc each. I couldn't get the top part of the bags where the filter patch is to stand up, though. Do you have any suggestions?
@@665don667 Can you try to move the grain around to make it stand up? Or lean it against something.
@@BoomerShroomer before I went to bed last night I opened the box back up (I took the same precautions again like turning off the A/C, wearing a mask, wearing disposable gloves that were sanitized) and I moved the bags to the back of the box so that the top halves are leaning up against the inside wall of the box, with the filters facing away from the inside wall, of course. I'm new to this and am still learning so I didn't want to mess with the bags any more than that for the time being. I did check for holes when the bags arrived and everything looked good. When they're at least 10-20% colonized I'll mix them to speed up the growth. Wish me luck!
@@665don667 Perfect! You can pick them up and it shouldn’t bother them. Just be gentle.
Is it safe to spray the alcohol on the filter itself?
Can you or should you mix a bag that seems stalled of growth at about 60% ?
Might as well try. If it's stalled what's the worst that can happen? It stays stalled or moves on.
Yes, absolutely. It will either perk back up or you'll release a hidden contam and it will become apparent why your mycelium have stalled.
Will the Iso alcohol spray kill the mycelium?
Iso will kill mycelium if it comes in contact with it but wont kill spores, hydrogen peroxide will kill spores but not mycelium.
What a lady!
Thanks!
I have a quick question @BoomerShroomer
Q: (Its my first time growing mushrooms, and i only have 1bag I'm at day 44 using a 5lb all in 1 grow bag and I just started to get 3-4 tiny pins when I checked this morning.
(I don't have monotub) and I'm going to be fruiting in bag, I'm wondering when should I introduce the bag to 12hrs of light? Right away,or should I wait until there are more pins?
Thank You! 🤘😸🤘
Looks like you had some yellow in the second bag that was mixed
Can you still shake all in one bags that contain substrate and grain????
Yes!
@@BoomerShroomer done it thanks! Looks like it stalled! Been cold in the UK! Just tried my first grain jars too! Hopefully warm up soon
@@psyspiritualguy3113 that should get it started again!
@@BoomerShroomer thanks I hope so! Was definitely at least 30 to 40% colonized! Thick white and looking strong to be honest! Just being really slow! Mycelium really doesn't like cold
Let me know how it goes!
At just 10%? I thought you other video said 40-50%?
how much ml do I put in it
3-5 ccs
Can you put 20cc syringe into a 5 lbs bag ?
I would only used 1 cc per pound of grain. You do not want to much moisture in the bag.
expanding my King Oysters today, going from 1 bag to 3 shoeboxes....
Nice!
@@BoomerShroomer perfect timing
@@BoomerShroomer pasteurized jiffy mix
@@hodgepodge9047 soaked hardwood pellets, boiled for 3 hours..
Turn it upside down and shake. The chunks go to the top
How many LBS per bag?
around 3 lbs per bag.
why is this video gives out such heavy anxiety.
No gloves necessary?
If you wash your hands properly and spray isopropyl alcohol (70%) then no
where are your gloves!!!!! NO!!!!! NO!O!OO!OOO!!O!110101oneone
Yeah I should have worn gloves.
I bought spawn bags from spawn magic but they came wet looking. The box was wet, the bags aren’t damaged but the grain looks wet & in your videos they look dry. I already innoculated them with syringes from innoculatetheworld. Are they bad? It looks like mycelium starting but I’m worried somehow it could be mold from bad bags. Please help 🫣🥹