You would be absolutely massively benefitted in the amount of eyes on this content if you can splice this up as topic clips around 8-15 minutes (specific length doesn't matter, the flow of the conversation is more important) . You don't have much extra editing to do but would hugely benefit many people as well as draw people to your backlog of other videos. Would really really love to see and help this type of content spreading among youtube fitness education!
While I'm in Australia, the gym junkie culture is probably more to do with a sort of narcissism than the 'health' of being physical. As a graduate of the jogging years a few decades back, the new gym culture -- while it may not be competitively inspired -- is really a lifestyle thing without being lifestyle friendly as it presumes that you need a gym. Compare that to the Chinese tradition of exercise in the park or local square or the way the local dojo is integrated in the culture of Okinawa. What I love about Ron Jones' work is its accessibility and absolute lack of competition. As well it is easily changed to group mode (a point well made in your exchange). As I age -- I'm in my seventies -- what becomes clear is that there are very few exercise options I have held onto from my youth. They were always in the moment of my age at the time and related to what was the local workout fashion. As I adapt to the sort of regimes that Ron advocates, I realise how much I have missed in way of having a skillset that could have so easily sustained me over the years without hip hopping about from one style to another. I would have understood my body so much better.Granted, the science has developed and changed over the same period but sports science has been engineered toward heightened performance rather than community health. I think the popularity of Tai Chi Chuan, however, is a sort of a push back against this general exercise trend. Despite its Taoist attributes, it is a physical culture routine...indeed so much of the kung fu tradition is in a physical culture mode.
Thanks, Dave, and I completely agree with you. I have a very similar feeling about the gym culture, at least that's been my experience with it. Interesting that it seems to be the same and Australia. Also agree that things like Tai Chi, Yoga, etc., are rising in popularity as "push back". Or perhaps, filling the void that gym culture as left. When the old school physical culture got thrown out in the early 1900s I think it left a big hole, and people were not being served. Perhaps the resurgence of interest that you mention is an attempt to fill that void?
Undoubtedly one of the most informative interviews of traditional early American physical culture. It was a true learning experience. Thank you for producing and presenting this labour of love. God bless you!
This is so fascinating! I wound up here because I was googling the history of yoga this morning. The ancient practice was focused on a moral code, daily observances, meditation, and dedication to a higher purpose - the word “asana” means “to sit down.” Apparently the physical yoga postures developed in the 19th century, influenced by Indian wrestling, British imperialist gymnastics, and the global trend of physical culture. I think the modern practice of yoga embodies the spirit of physical culture. Depending on whether the yogi is committed to 8 fold path, or merely interested in getting likes for yoga selfies.
Yes, I agree with you that currently, yoga, Tai chi, and some of the Eastern disciplines have more in common with the mindset and approach of old Western physical culture than modern Western athletics. Though much may be due to parallel developments due to different life concerns of past centuries, rather than cultural transmission. I plan on addressing this in great depth in some future videos.
This is one of the most informative things I've watched in a long time! It was just as interesting as watching any Joe Rogan or Mark Bell podcast. I truly hope you have more interviews like this in the future
Fascinating interview! I got here from watching La Sierra HS fitness videos from 1962. EDIT: The only thing annoying is the way the classical fitness instructor failed to enunciate "La Sierra" because half the time I heard "Lawser".
Wow! Thank you both. Very informative and educational. You have helped this old mule learn several new things. I’ve been trying for a decade to improve my former morbidly obese self.
Ben, I think it is, I see where you'll be teaching the German wand winding exercises at CombatCon. I've become interested in the wand due to having a neuro-muscular disorder that keeps me from lifting weights of any kind, even 1 lbs. Will you be demonstrating this on this channel? I'd love to see it and if you can direct me to the full system as you've reconstructed it, I'd buy it. I started doing Ron Jones' wand exercises yesterday and was sore and tired all over today. I need to ease in slowly. I've been interested in old time physical culture since about 1995. Especially Lionel Strongfort's light dumbbell system which I wish I could do. Will you be doing a video on the light dumbbell systems? My main workout is Tai Chi Chuan.
Hi Paul, Ben here, thanks so much for your kind words! I first taught the winding this summer. I may teach it at the next CombatCon--not sure yet. Also not sure if it will be in person or virtual (like this year). Thanks so much for your interest. I will say, however, that the winding may not be as useful for your particular personal situation as Ron's exercises. The winding involves driving the wand into positions in which your arms are entwined about the shaft in a serpentine manner. And this can be somewhat difficult, taxing and uncomfortable--probably more so than the standard traditional wand exercises. Are you on any social media? I will try to keep you posted / informed about the potential CombatCon class. In regards to light dumbbells--yes! This will probably be in the next video or two that I post. Hope it is helpful. If you search Ebay, you can find wood dumbbells in the one pound or even 3/4 pound range which might be ideal for you. I have just started experimenting with the exercises and I rarely want to go over two pounds--which is amazing when you think how much heavier people go today in these muscle isolation exercises. Also, do you know about light club or fancy club swinging (as in one-half to 1 pound)? That might really be the way to go in addition to the light dumbbells.
@@PhysicalCultureHistorians Hi Ben, lost this thread twice now so I'll just say weights won't work, even two rows of nickles....The wand however I can actually feel something, if my hands are sensitive. Like my mind is tricked into thinking I'm encountering resistance. I'm on Face Book an I'll go an see if you have a page there...I've found three winding exercises in two different places, an, as you quoted, they are puzzling. I might need to limber using Ron's exercises for a while and maybe I can get into the winding. Meanwhile I hope you consider including them in your much appreciated PCH series. I have the Col. Monstery book you wrote by the way. Fascinating. I love this stuff...Thanks again, Paul.
@@pauljones5933 Hi Paul, you can find me on Facebook under Ben Miller, or via the page for the Monstery book, or in the Facebook group "Old Time Physical Culture - Indian Clubs, Wands, Kettlebells, Dumbbells". Let's communicate privately and I can tell you more about the winding.
WTF is wrong with the new owners of the building? Why hasn't it been designated at the very least, a building of historical interest. I did enjoy the actual video, but quite annoyed(steamed even) at the though of that building being gutted of all that woodwork etc. Jeeze. Cheers to you though. Enjoying your vids.
Thanks Nancy. Wish we could have had a say in the fate of the building. The new owners were not interested in historical preservation--a sad trend in this day and age. In Hollywood so many of the nice buildings are connected to some old star are famous person, but historical preservation is an uphill battle, as the real estate industry just doesn't care (except to have the name recognition get them a sale). The Hollywood Heritage Museum is one organization that is doing everything they can to preserve these old buildings.
A simple comment: the quality of PE teachers is very low, they are for the most part ill prepared. My experience in high school was exceedingly bad. And a question: you mention Pilates, any comment on his methods? Cheers
You would be absolutely massively benefitted in the amount of eyes on this content if you can splice this up as topic clips around 8-15 minutes (specific length doesn't matter, the flow of the conversation is more important) . You don't have much extra editing to do but would hugely benefit many people as well as draw people to your backlog of other videos. Would really really love to see and help this type of content spreading among youtube fitness education!
Thanks for the suggestion-I will look into doing that!
While I'm in Australia, the gym junkie culture is probably more to do with a sort of narcissism than the 'health' of being physical. As a graduate of the jogging years a few decades back, the new gym culture -- while it may not be competitively inspired -- is really a lifestyle thing without being lifestyle friendly as it presumes that you need a gym. Compare that to the Chinese tradition of exercise in the park or local square or the way the local dojo is integrated in the culture of Okinawa. What I love about Ron Jones' work is its accessibility and absolute lack of competition. As well it is easily changed to group mode (a point well made in your exchange). As I age -- I'm in my seventies -- what becomes clear is that there are very few exercise options I have held onto from my youth. They were always in the moment of my age at the time and related to what was the local workout fashion. As I adapt to the sort of regimes that Ron advocates, I realise how much I have missed in way of having a skillset that could have so easily sustained me over the years without hip hopping about from one style to another. I would have understood my body so much better.Granted, the science has developed and changed over the same period but sports science has been engineered toward heightened performance rather than community health. I think the popularity of Tai Chi Chuan, however, is a sort of a push back against this general exercise trend. Despite its Taoist attributes, it is a physical culture routine...indeed so much of the kung fu tradition is in a physical culture mode.
Thanks, Dave, and I completely agree with you. I have a very similar feeling about the gym culture, at least that's been my experience with it. Interesting that it seems to be the same and Australia. Also agree that things like Tai Chi, Yoga, etc., are rising in popularity as "push back". Or perhaps, filling the void that gym culture as left. When the old school physical culture got thrown out in the early 1900s I think it left a big hole, and people were not being served. Perhaps the resurgence of interest that you mention is an attempt to fill that void?
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Thanks for watching!
Undoubtedly one of the most informative interviews of traditional early American physical culture. It was a true learning experience. Thank you for producing and presenting this labour of love. God bless you!
Thanks so much Fred! So glad you enjoyed it! God bless you as well!
This is so fascinating! I wound up here because I was googling the history of yoga this morning. The ancient practice was focused on a moral code, daily observances, meditation, and dedication to a higher purpose - the word “asana” means “to sit down.” Apparently the physical yoga postures developed in the 19th century, influenced by Indian wrestling, British imperialist gymnastics, and the global trend of physical culture. I think the modern practice of yoga embodies the spirit of physical culture. Depending on whether the yogi is committed to 8 fold path, or merely interested in getting likes for yoga selfies.
Yes, I agree with you that currently, yoga, Tai chi, and some of the Eastern disciplines have more in common with the mindset and approach of old Western physical culture than modern Western athletics. Though much may be due to parallel developments due to different life concerns of past centuries, rather than cultural transmission. I plan on addressing this in great depth in some future videos.
That sounds really interesting- I’ll stay tuned…
Awesome love Ron Jones and The Lean Berets!!
Same here, cheers!
Went to school in the mid 90s/00s. I didn't fail p.e. but it really failed me.
So sorry to hear that. I feel the exact same way!
Fantastic interview!
Thanks!! 🙏
This is one of the most informative things I've watched in a long time! It was just as interesting as watching any Joe Rogan or Mark Bell podcast. I truly hope you have more interviews like this in the future
Thanks so much for your very kind comments! I hope to do more of them!
Fascinating interview! I got here from watching La Sierra HS fitness videos from 1962.
EDIT: The only thing annoying is the way the classical fitness instructor failed to enunciate "La Sierra" because half the time I heard "Lawser".
Thank you
Ron, we are on the same page, same age and same concerns for the country.
This is proving what I thought
How so?
Spectatoritisn😮😊 had the same intuition. Did not know there was a discussion about it.
I love this documentary! As a teacher I see the poor physical shape of the kids is appalling. "amazing feats without hurting". Wow!
Thanks! I agree!
looking forward to watching this!
Cheers, enjoy! 🙏
Wow! Thank you both. Very informative and educational. You have helped this old mule learn several new things. I’ve been trying for a decade to improve my former morbidly obese self.
Thanks, so glad to hear it!
Ben, I think it is, I see where you'll be teaching the German wand winding exercises at CombatCon. I've become interested in the wand due to having a neuro-muscular disorder that keeps me from lifting weights of any kind, even 1 lbs.
Will you be demonstrating this on this channel? I'd love to see it and if you can direct me to the full system as you've reconstructed it, I'd buy it.
I started doing Ron Jones' wand exercises yesterday and was sore and tired all over today. I need to ease in slowly.
I've been interested in old time physical culture since about 1995. Especially Lionel Strongfort's light dumbbell system which I wish I could do. Will you be doing a video on the light dumbbell systems?
My main workout is Tai Chi Chuan.
Hi Paul, Ben here, thanks so much for your kind words! I first taught the winding this summer. I may teach it at the next CombatCon--not sure yet. Also not sure if it will be in person or virtual (like this year). Thanks so much for your interest. I will say, however, that the winding may not be as useful for your particular personal situation as Ron's exercises. The winding involves driving the wand into positions in which your arms are entwined about the shaft in a serpentine manner. And this can be somewhat difficult, taxing and uncomfortable--probably more so than the standard traditional wand exercises. Are you on any social media? I will try to keep you posted / informed about the potential CombatCon class. In regards to light dumbbells--yes! This will probably be in the next video or two that I post. Hope it is helpful. If you search Ebay, you can find wood dumbbells in the one pound or even 3/4 pound range which might be ideal for you. I have just started experimenting with the exercises and I rarely want to go over two pounds--which is amazing when you think how much heavier people go today in these muscle isolation exercises. Also, do you know about light club or fancy club swinging (as in one-half to 1 pound)? That might really be the way to go in addition to the light dumbbells.
@@PhysicalCultureHistorians Hi Ben, lost this thread twice now so I'll just say weights won't work, even two rows of nickles....The wand however I can actually feel something, if my hands are sensitive. Like my mind is tricked into thinking I'm encountering resistance. I'm on Face Book an I'll go an see if you have a page there...I've found three winding exercises in two different places, an, as you quoted, they are puzzling. I might need to limber using Ron's exercises for a while and maybe I can get into the winding. Meanwhile I hope you consider including them in your much appreciated PCH series. I have the Col. Monstery book you wrote by the way. Fascinating. I love this stuff...Thanks again, Paul.
I use the Maxalding exercises as well...
@@pauljones5933 Hi Paul, you can find me on Facebook under Ben Miller, or via the page for the Monstery book, or in the Facebook group "Old Time Physical Culture - Indian Clubs, Wands, Kettlebells, Dumbbells". Let's communicate privately and I can tell you more about the winding.
Hello, the reading list has been down for several days, in case you don't already know. Cheers.
You can try messaging Ron of the Lean Berets website, and I’ll also mention it next time I talk to him.
WTF is wrong with the new owners of the building? Why hasn't it been designated at the very least, a building of historical interest. I did enjoy the actual video, but quite annoyed(steamed even) at the though of that building being gutted of all that woodwork etc. Jeeze.
Cheers to you though. Enjoying your vids.
Thanks Nancy. Wish we could have had a say in the fate of the building. The new owners were not interested in historical preservation--a sad trend in this day and age. In Hollywood so many of the nice buildings are connected to some old star are famous person, but historical preservation is an uphill battle, as the real estate industry just doesn't care (except to have the name recognition get them a sale). The Hollywood Heritage Museum is one organization that is doing everything they can to preserve these old buildings.
A simple comment: the quality of PE teachers is very low, they are for the most part ill prepared. My experience in high school was exceedingly bad. And a question: you mention Pilates, any comment on his methods? Cheers
Excellent interview!
Thank you sir! 🙏