Truth be told, there are many people that scale verses just because they're powerful and not because they're good works of fiction. However, there are some verses that literally can't be read through for enjoyment for some people like Kajiri Kamui Kagura, which is purely in Japanese and is untranslated. I have to literally translate every piece of text.
thank the lord for, well, your pfp. I learnt of Dies Irae because of the power scaling community through Hajun, and while I love the fact that the entire masadaverse is strong, the fact the author can make such entertaining, inspiring AND incredible works MULTIPLE times is amazing to me. I played little of the Dies Irae Amantes Amentes game(it's REALLY long imo) but I'm trying to get into the Umineko verse, I watched the anime not knowing about how much the powerscaling community dickrides the verse, but I loved the concept of humans vs witches in a contest of intelligence, wits and deduction. Sorry for the rant it's 5:30 am and I wanted to say this to someone lmao
I remember awhile back on TikTok how Azathoth was praised like crazy for being the most powerful character in fiction. All it took was one dude to “debunk” Azathoth. All they said was he only contains his verse, he causes chaos not destruction, the verse is only multiversal in size, and there’s only one cannon piece of material that describes Azathoth. Once that happened everyone immediately started saying Azathoth is fodder and that he caps at hyperversal.
You have some crazy shit with azathot, the main argument for why he is soo powerful is because aparently the lovecraft universe works with a concept named as Hilbert space which basically means that there are an infinite number of infinite spacial dimensions, which each of this being infinitely bigger than the last one, so basically you have 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D, 5D, 6D, 100D, 1 billion D, 1 nonillion D, 1 googolplex D, 1 tree³ D, etc, an infinite number and azathot exists on top of all of this so supposedly this means that azathot is infinitely more powerful than an infinite number of infinite spacial dimensión that they themselves are infinite times bigger than the last one It's basically "my infinite is bigger than your infinite"
@@ismaailmousa1447 literally downplayed af, he’s beyond inaccessible cardinals beyond the gates and all and these jumps being huge (cantors cardinals for reference.) and is so disgustingly powerful; Azathoth can be considered top 5 characters in all of fiction pretty regularly. He sits way up there with The Creator from Umineko and I AM THAT I AM from World of Darkness.
I completely agree with this video here. I scale a lot of the older movie characters like Jason, Robocop, and Terminator; I’ve found that it’s better if I do the research for myself and have the scaling tested by reliable sources to probe for any potential issues like on where we can put the mid end or high end at or if a feat is at least valid if not sound. I’ve said before that some of the issues in the power scaling community stem from either a lack of information or how it’s currently being used in ways that are antithetical. This video highlights that perfectly.
Summarised for all those peeps out there: people say stuff about other verses that are not correct or partially incorrect, so people take it as fact because they haven’t read the material and don’t know better = problems for the fandoms of those verses. And it needs to stop.
@Toptierganon i mean there is comic sonic and game version of sonic so they are not being very specific with it. But still you’re right. Death battle has messed alot with fandoms, and they don’t correctly scale them.
@@Justadude91 world of darkness became too easy to debunk because there was a lot of no limits fallacy. Twin peak is already broken though. It does scale above self reference
The most OP verse you never heard of: doesn't exist. Or, if you're going to be very literal, the most OP verse you never heard before probably is soloed by some other.
@Toptierganon xD Omniversal is bit.. Maybe The Super Dragon Balls, but with Zeno we don't know yet if he can affect multiple timelines at once. Hell! we don't even know if there aren't more Physical dimensions beyond the multiverse and timelines they are on. As long as the 5D movie DBS fans don't come I'm fine
@@vortechstg4091 normally when scaling, tbe highest one can go is an absolute omnipotent/boundless character (can do everything with no limits whatsoever) And some people like to say a character that breaks the 4th by referring to the real audience is above that, because he can interact with the "real" world. Like saying DeadPoll is stronger than Thanos, because Thanos can't interact with the audience.
@@hashiondiscord8540 Logically is not, it's a concept. So the author as all the rights to adress a character/something as Omnipotent, which would be the highest possible tier he could create. The point I was doing is that some others give more weight to characters that break the 4th then characters that are treated as Omnipotent.
Yup that’s what he is referring to. I would recommend going through the Visual Novel or manga. The anime does not do it justice. It’s not just an overpowered verse and is legit a well written story with awesome characters and an amazing OST.
I actually only watching dragon ball Z just to see gokus power scaling over lockdown. I then proceeded to watch all of Z, Super twice and all of the movies because I loved the franchise so much
Isn't everyone technically a secondary when it comes to comics? I'm a comic nerd but I haven't read every comic out there. For example, I never read Gwenpool so I wouldn't know how to scale her. I have read tons of Deadpool, Spider-Man, X-Men, etc
If you read comics you are not a secondary to comics, if you listen on later in the video surfbone goes on to explain that with vast verses like western comics basically no one has read it all and thats also a contributing factor. So for instance if you didnt read marvel you might not know that Secret Wars 2015 came before Civil WAr 2 but when you read marvel you might have missed the details of how galactus ends up in ANAD marvel and such due to the volume of comics
Superman having Infinite Strength would be downplay if anything, but him lifting the Spectre is a bit weird since the Spectre can easily change his size whenever he wants. And not only was the book of infinite pages a much more impressive feat than most people believe (if you actually read the comic) but that was a Boom Tube amped Superman
@@surfbone I mean, I read and re-read the comic trying to understand why people think this feat is so impressive, and all I saw was Superman grabing an already floating book, trying to lift it with Captain Marvel's help, and yet failing at it. Honest question: What exactly I'm missing here?
@@surfbone and the gist of the Spectre feat is that it's stated that the Spectre's body is composed of a cosmic counsciousness that contains eternity, and eternity is heavy. People said that this means infinite weight, which I find a very ass-pulled argument.
@@holyzenith2229 the book is in limbo a realm that sees the godsphere as fiction, the godsphere contains darkseid whos shadow was gping tp destroy the multiverse. So superman breathing in limbo would be far more than infinite strength
@@hashiondiscord8540 Yeah, that part I got when Surfbone said it was Boom Tube Superman, but the fact that he was amped by existing inside a superior dimension doesn't neutralize the feat? And yet he failed at doing it. That's the part that really get me confuse.
Reminds me of People and memes claiming Kirby kills gods for a living despite zero evidence that any of the Kirby characters are deities even void termina is left ambiguous by the game director in interviews stating only that hyness believes him to be one
Well for once "god" is just a tittle it doesnt really mean anything, both Zeus from the god of war series and beerus from dragon ball súper are "gods" so that means they are equals right? And in that same vein Kratos killed Zeus a "god" which means that he should also be able to kill beerus since he is also a "god" Kirby doesnt fight explicitly gods but they might as well be called that since some of their feats are ridículous, like the novas being able to grant any wish and one of them planning to destroy all life on the universe after it goes out of control, or magolor with it's crown being described as literaly granting it's user power over the entire universe, and void termina is said to have nearly destroyed the universe too before being defeated in the past by four legendary heroes Then you have characters like galacta knight that have been described to be a threat to the entire universe and literaly destroy galaxies, etc But there are people that do use some ridiculous and stupid arguments not gonna lie Kirby is insanely powerful as someone who has played the games you do notice that the developers do like to put this basically eldritch abominations as a final boss almost like a running joke at this point
fr why do people like verses based on how op they are most likely you can find a way to scale any verse to at least universe level using bs (technically correct bs tho like how btd6 is high 1-b maybe higher)
Little bit off topic, but me and my friends decided to see which one of us could create the most broken verse. My friends made DB 2, i made a verse full of humans, monsters and eldritch creatures capable of making your brain eat itself, made them exist in many levels of existence, and above them were the gods, and above them was just Tien Xi... A bartender who can punch hard. I think people just forget that making absurdly strong characters is not fun by itself, and you should give it a twist to make it interesting; being Saitama who's bored of everything, or Anos who just wants to end racism. Is this people who care about "Power > Fun" that make most shonen manga boring, tbh.
I think this is also why cartoon characters are enjoyable. Sure, they're OP as heck, but their shenanigans and personalities are usually very enjoyable, and their "op"ness is just a by-product of that
Oh god, the touhou community is full of secondaries who only got into touhou for power scaling, and their arguments are completely nonsensical when you actually know anything about touhou. Yeah, the top tiers in touhou molly whop goku, but not for the reasons secondaries say 💀
bro you really need to get on tiktok and debunk those "debaters" who most of the time have no clue what they're talking about, people like @Thundercluck44 with 30k followers saying that rick from rick and morty slaps UI goku and grand priest... he even said it with his chest
I mean, apparently you can make fucking BANK on TikTok and that's the only reason why I might consider it. Cause TikTok is just primarily full of a bunch of psuedos that don't know anything about power scaling Lol
@@surfbone exactly bro, like I'm not saying that I'm the best power scaler but what they say is out of pocket, a good idea is to make a video debunking them and plug your TikTok their so people who are interested like me follow you and vice versa as in plug your youtube on your TikTok cause everyone who does gauntlets on TikTok gets hella views
@@princelamar1735 that's crazy! If that's just an example, I can see someone more powerful than Goku coming. now I have a lot of new videos to watch, to find out more about these guys, thanks Prince! 🔥
All in all, according to you if you claim you understand everything, then, who solos everyone and everything with absolute negative difficulty from anywhere at all times?
Universe 7 is composed of multiple different 4 Dimensional Constructs, some which seem to be infinite in size. the multiverse is formed in a similar way, having at least 12 universes before the tournament of power, rhe void world, Zeno's place, etc... then You have multiple timelines, which each one is a multiverse. For now that's everything.
@@filipe_paixao of course that is true however you have to remember that Dragon Ball has a couple different continuities the Dragon Ball Super anime and manga are completely different from each other in terms of continuity and there's also Dragon Ball Heroes which has an infinite amount of timelines from what I believe......
@@saudbintalib5701 Dragon Ball Heroes if I remember right, considers each series and it's timelines as different timelines. But I'm not sure if it's treated as a separate physical dimension or if it just expands the number of timelines. I only watched Heroes till Goku mastered MUI with grand priest, not really interested in game canon
Cosmic power is too generic of a term to explain. In Marvel is the energy used by cosmic entities and phenomena, like Galactus. In other settings usually is just a fancy way to describe someone really powerful, beyond planetary at least.
Truth be told, there are many people that scale verses just because they're powerful and not because they're good works of fiction. However, there are some verses that literally can't be read through for enjoyment for some people like Kajiri Kamui Kagura, which is purely in Japanese and is untranslated. I have to literally translate every piece of text.
thank the lord for, well, your pfp. I learnt of Dies Irae because of the power scaling community through Hajun, and while I love the fact that the entire masadaverse is strong, the fact the author can make such entertaining, inspiring AND incredible works MULTIPLE times is amazing to me. I played little of the Dies Irae Amantes Amentes game(it's REALLY long imo) but I'm trying to get into the Umineko verse, I watched the anime not knowing about how much the powerscaling community dickrides the verse, but I loved the concept of humans vs witches in a contest of intelligence, wits and deduction. Sorry for the rant it's 5:30 am and I wanted to say this to someone lmao
I remember awhile back on TikTok how Azathoth was praised like crazy for being the most powerful character in fiction. All it took was one dude to “debunk” Azathoth. All they said was he only contains his verse, he causes chaos not destruction, the verse is only multiversal in size, and there’s only one cannon piece of material that describes Azathoth. Once that happened everyone immediately started saying Azathoth is fodder and that he caps at hyperversal.
@Toptierganon yeah, otherwise we end up with a "Cell was just bragging" situation.
@Toptierganon look if I flick my Cheeks and level a mountain can I call MHA fodder?
You have some crazy shit with azathot, the main argument for why he is soo powerful is because aparently the lovecraft universe works with a concept named as Hilbert space which basically means that there are an infinite number of infinite spacial dimensions, which each of this being infinitely bigger than the last one, so basically you have 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D, 5D, 6D, 100D, 1 billion D, 1 nonillion D, 1 googolplex D, 1 tree³ D, etc, an infinite number and azathot exists on top of all of this so supposedly this means that azathot is infinitely more powerful than an infinite number of infinite spacial dimensión that they themselves are infinite times bigger than the last one
It's basically "my infinite is bigger than your infinite"
Downplay^
@@ismaailmousa1447 literally downplayed af, he’s beyond inaccessible cardinals beyond the gates and all and these jumps being huge (cantors cardinals for reference.) and is so disgustingly powerful; Azathoth can be considered top 5 characters in all of fiction pretty regularly. He sits way up there with The Creator from Umineko and I AM THAT I AM from World of Darkness.
I like that you take the time out to address problems in the general community and not just power scaling itself,keep up the good work man.
I completely agree with this video here. I scale a lot of the older movie characters like Jason, Robocop, and Terminator; I’ve found that it’s better if I do the research for myself and have the scaling tested by reliable sources to probe for any potential issues like on where we can put the mid end or high end at or if a feat is at least valid if not sound. I’ve said before that some of the issues in the power scaling community stem from either a lack of information or how it’s currently being used in ways that are antithetical. This video highlights that perfectly.
Summarised for all those peeps out there: people say stuff about other verses that are not correct or partially incorrect, so people take it as fact because they haven’t read the material and don’t know better = problems for the fandoms of those verses.
And it needs to stop.
@Toptierganon i mean there is comic sonic and game version of sonic so they are not being very specific with it.
But still you’re right.
Death battle has messed alot with fandoms, and they don’t correctly scale them.
Death battle even spread the myth that star butterfly is universal, which doesn't help either.
The most powerful verse that you never heard of would probably be either the world of darkness or twin peaks
I would also add self reference engine.
@@aroundtheworld3972 what’s that
@@Justadude91 the verse that uses pure mathematics
@@Justadude91 world of darkness became too easy to debunk because there was a lot of no limits fallacy. Twin peak is already broken though. It does scale above self reference
@@Josephcantor-v5pwhat nlfs???
The most OP verse you never heard of: doesn't exist. Or, if you're going to be very literal, the most OP verse you never heard before probably is soloed by some other.
I can't express how useful this was.
The thing that succs the most is "reality" "fiction" arguments that keep on coming,
even when debunked perfectly
What exactly does this mean? I'm more of a casual observer to powerscaling so please excuse me if it's common knowledge.
@Toptierganon
xD Omniversal is bit..
Maybe The Super Dragon Balls, but with Zeno we don't know yet if he can affect multiple timelines at once.
Hell! we don't even know if there aren't more Physical dimensions beyond the multiverse and timelines they are on.
As long as the 5D movie DBS fans don't come I'm fine
@@vortechstg4091
normally when scaling, tbe highest one can go is an absolute omnipotent/boundless character (can do everything with no limits whatsoever)
And some people like to say a character that breaks the 4th by referring to the real audience is above that, because he can interact with the "real" world.
Like saying DeadPoll is stronger than Thanos, because Thanos can't interact with the audience.
@@filipe_paixao Omnipotence isnt possible in fiction surfbone has a video on it
surfbone also has a video on reality ficton bullshit
@@hashiondiscord8540
Logically is not, it's a concept.
So the author as all the rights to adress a character/something as Omnipotent, which would be the highest possible tier he could create.
The point I was doing is that some others give more weight to characters that break the 4th then characters that are treated as Omnipotent.
The darkest tower and spongebobs verse
Good thing I don't debate about marvel or dc comics much
Powerscaling extends far beyond comics, it's also video games, films, TV shows, etc.
@@TheHedgememe twin peaks
The Star Wars and Kingdom Hearts verses are a lot more powerful than people give them credit for
na goku>!
@mr i hate my self goku>
@mr i hate my self goku
So true, sora is very underrated
Umineko, as in Umineko No Naku Koro Ni, When the Seagulls Cry? Because I haven't seen that. I loved Higurashi, but I haven't gotten to Umineko.
Yup that’s what he is referring to. I would recommend going through the Visual Novel or manga. The anime does not do it justice. It’s not just an overpowered verse and is legit a well written story with awesome characters and an amazing OST.
Yeah, it's insanely broken, and with an amazing story.
For a moment I thought he was talking about the show “the community” or some random comic thing but yeah this makes more sense
Wow the guy answered everything except the title.
I actually only watching dragon ball Z just to see gokus power scaling over lockdown. I then proceeded to watch all of Z, Super twice and all of the movies because I loved the franchise so much
Perfect timing I'm on my lunch break
Dragon ball heroes,Scp,Mortal Kombat, Touhou and etc
This is literally what happened with 40K where people think platoons of guardsmen can solo civilisations lmao. Thanks for putting this into words.
Warhammer is actually absurdly strong top 10 for sure
Isn't everyone technically a secondary when it comes to comics? I'm a comic nerd but I haven't read every comic out there. For example, I never read Gwenpool so I wouldn't know how to scale her. I have read tons of Deadpool, Spider-Man, X-Men, etc
If you read comics you are not a secondary to comics, if you listen on later in the video surfbone goes on to explain that with vast verses like western comics basically no one has read it all and thats also a contributing factor. So for instance if you didnt read marvel you might not know that Secret Wars 2015 came before Civil WAr 2 but when you read marvel you might have missed the details of how galactus ends up in ANAD marvel and such due to the volume of comics
Not Dimensional tiering,not goku vs Gojo but this..
Nah jk Surfbone love ya
heard the intro during the live stream, but it was still a video that tricked me lol
Secondaries who get all of their information from reddit and fandoms are some of the most annoying power scalers. Amazing video though.
Correct.
Cool video. I wish more people powerscaled Chinese Cultivation Novels (Xianxia/Wuxia/Xuanhuan) tbh........😔
Nah their weak so depended rule universe when it changed the rule universe suddenly their loss all cultivation
@@datualiomar3333 sure one can lose one's Cultivation, but three are some really O.P. Cultivation verses out there but okay....
@@datualiomar3333 No. They keep their rules and can establish and replace worlds with their own rules
Yeah, I still remember people saying that Superman has infinite strenght because he could lift the Spectre and a book of infinite pages.
Superman having Infinite Strength would be downplay if anything, but him lifting the Spectre is a bit weird since the Spectre can easily change his size whenever he wants. And not only was the book of infinite pages a much more impressive feat than most people believe (if you actually read the comic) but that was a Boom Tube amped Superman
@@surfbone I mean, I read and re-read the comic trying to understand why people think this feat is so impressive, and all I saw was Superman grabing an already floating book, trying to lift it with Captain Marvel's help, and yet failing at it. Honest question: What exactly I'm missing here?
@@surfbone and the gist of the Spectre feat is that it's stated that the Spectre's body is composed of a cosmic counsciousness that contains eternity, and eternity is heavy. People said that this means infinite weight, which I find a very ass-pulled argument.
@@holyzenith2229 the book is in limbo a realm that sees the godsphere as fiction, the godsphere contains darkseid whos shadow was gping tp destroy the multiverse. So superman breathing in limbo would be far more than infinite strength
@@hashiondiscord8540 Yeah, that part I got when Surfbone said it was Boom Tube Superman, but the fact that he was amped by existing inside a superior dimension doesn't neutralize the feat? And yet he failed at doing it. That's the part that really get me confuse.
Reminds me of People and memes claiming Kirby kills gods for a living despite zero evidence that any of the Kirby characters are deities even void termina is left ambiguous by the game director in interviews stating only that hyness believes him to be one
Well for once "god" is just a tittle it doesnt really mean anything, both Zeus from the god of war series and beerus from dragon ball súper are "gods" so that means they are equals right? And in that same vein Kratos killed Zeus a "god" which means that he should also be able to kill beerus since he is also a "god"
Kirby doesnt fight explicitly gods but they might as well be called that since some of their feats are ridículous, like the novas being able to grant any wish and one of them planning to destroy all life on the universe after it goes out of control, or magolor with it's crown being described as literaly granting it's user power over the entire universe, and void termina is said to have nearly destroyed the universe too before being defeated in the past by four legendary heroes
Then you have characters like galacta knight that have been described to be a threat to the entire universe and literaly destroy galaxies, etc
But there are people that do use some ridiculous and stupid arguments not gonna lie
Kirby is insanely powerful as someone who has played the games you do notice that the developers do like to put this basically eldritch abominations as a final boss almost like a running joke at this point
Yeah god doesn't necessarily mean all powerful they could bear the title of god but only be planetary level
I mean, some of the kirby final bosses ARE godlike
World of darkness
Secondary saitama fans are still alive and gross. They do read up on one punch man, but just not anything else tho lol.
Got me in the first half
lol
fr why do people like verses based on how op they are most likely you can find a way to scale any verse to at least universe level using bs (technically correct bs tho like how btd6 is high 1-b maybe higher)
Please help me what is domien echo and how do I spell it so I can look it up
Hajun is op
3 hadou gods solos
Lamdadelta>>>
@@ismaailmousa1447 aint beating goku
@@Real048 What's the point of this series.... if no one beats goku. 😫😫😫
@@Real048 shut up dude
Aint beating goku tho
Shut up
Nice
Little bit off topic, but me and my friends decided to see which one of us could create the most broken verse. My friends made DB 2, i made a verse full of humans, monsters and eldritch creatures capable of making your brain eat itself, made them exist in many levels of existence, and above them were the gods, and above them was just Tien Xi... A bartender who can punch hard.
I think people just forget that making absurdly strong characters is not fun by itself, and you should give it a twist to make it interesting; being Saitama who's bored of everything, or Anos who just wants to end racism. Is this people who care about "Power > Fun" that make most shonen manga boring, tbh.
I think this is also why cartoon characters are enjoyable. Sure, they're OP as heck, but their shenanigans and personalities are usually very enjoyable, and their "op"ness is just a by-product of that
WoD verse:🗿🍷
Oh god, the touhou community is full of secondaries who only got into touhou for power scaling, and their arguments are completely nonsensical when you actually know anything about touhou. Yeah, the top tiers in touhou molly whop goku, but not for the reasons secondaries say 💀
Touhou is actually one of the strongest verses in fiction yeah
i can't even say that my fav verse is scp cuz ppl just assume i'm only into it cuz powerscaling 😭😭😭
You tricked me 😂
He called me out as a secondary
Hot takes: boboiboy from the malaysian animated series can solo mha
Im not sure about this
Yes Boboiboy can
He maybe can
Damn I miss the show, haven't seen it in a while. Btw what his feat, tier and who comparable to him?
bro you really need to get on tiktok and debunk those "debaters" who most of the time have no clue what they're talking about, people like @Thundercluck44 with 30k followers saying that rick from rick and morty slaps UI goku and grand priest... he even said it with his chest
I mean, apparently you can make fucking BANK on TikTok and that's the only reason why I might consider it. Cause TikTok is just primarily full of a bunch of psuedos that don't know anything about power scaling Lol
@@surfbone exactly bro, like I'm not saying that I'm the best power scaler but what they say is out of pocket, a good idea is to make a video debunking them and plug your TikTok their so people who are interested like me follow you and vice versa as in plug your youtube on your TikTok cause everyone who does gauntlets on TikTok gets hella views
@@surfbone spitting
Yes I have heard a bunch of people on TikTok say X charecter is boundless because someone said they were indestructible or beyond limits
Nice.
Yo bro could you teach how to scale dimensional feats
Why can't I find a power scaling video for immortal cultivators?
W
Scp verse > DBZ verse
What is Scp?
@@nicolaspereira151 Here’s an example.
th-cam.com/video/nS4EWHpFm4M/w-d-xo.html
@@princelamar1735 that's crazy! If that's just an example, I can see someone more powerful than Goku coming. now I have a lot of new videos to watch, to find out more about these guys, thanks Prince! 🔥
@@nicolaspereira151 Your welcome, welcome to to the world of Scp.
You guys have finally discovered me? 😮😢
Isnt it dragon ball since it has JF goku and God fusion goku
Digimon has alooooot of secondaries, it's why we have so many who believe Millenniumon is the strongest
Is it larger than Scp or wod
All in all, according to you if you claim you understand everything, then, who solos everyone and everything with absolute negative difficulty from anywhere at all times?
You must remember that Yhwach solos.
The Dragon Ball Verse is a lot stronger than you think though.......
......
Universe 7 is composed of multiple different 4 Dimensional Constructs, some which seem to be infinite in size.
the multiverse is formed in a similar way, having at least 12 universes before the tournament of power, rhe void world, Zeno's place, etc...
then You have multiple timelines, which each one is a multiverse.
For now that's everything.
@@filipe_paixao of course that is true however you have to remember that Dragon Ball has a couple different continuities the Dragon Ball Super anime and manga are completely different from each other in terms of continuity and there's also Dragon Ball Heroes which has an infinite amount of timelines from what I believe......
@@saudbintalib5701 Dragon Ball Heroes if I remember right, considers each series and it's timelines as different timelines.
But I'm not sure if it's treated as a separate physical dimension or if it just expands the number of timelines.
I only watched Heroes till Goku mastered MUI with grand priest, not really interested in game canon
@@filipe_paixao yeah.....
but can they kiss goku?
The strongest verse so that know is manifold trilogy
Either that or flatterland, WoD comes in close 3rd. Having other arguable titles at such, aswell.
the common sentiment is that it is umineko
suggsverse is the strongest verse
@@michalvrabec454 no lol
@@hashiondiscord8540 yes it is, suggs made it for the sake of being the strongest, and if suggs, the author of his verse says this, then it's official
But can they beat weedle?
Let's be honest goku negs
@mr i hate my self And you missed the most obvious joke ever.
Fax
Also the answer is Flatland, lol.
No, but okay.
Really thought this was gonna be a vid about Suggsverse for a second lol.
Suggsverse fodder
Hi Taylor
Touhou
Yukari mfs with her boundaries 😭
Bro how touhou ain't being beyond low complex multiverse
Zalgo >>>>>> SCP
Goku solos the verse
😁
😐
Fax
I thought this was going to be a suggsverse video
This verse is mid
@@underscoreclasher5687 it's one of the most hated
Can you explain cosmic power please
What do you mean by cosmic power?
@@surfbone someone said he is gonna scale saitama to outer without cosmic power and realms
@@sonic6044 Sounds like total bullshit to me Lol
Cosmic power is too generic of a term to explain. In Marvel is the energy used by cosmic entities and phenomena, like Galactus. In other settings usually is just a fancy way to describe someone really powerful, beyond planetary at least.
@@surfbone true😂
Reinhard solos 😹🙏🏼
@mr i hate my self come again ?
Who
2:54 I haven't. I am confused for every word you use to talk about it.
bro what a clickbait title
That’s the whole point Lol
Lol Bleach
Goku solos😹🙏
@mr i hate my self he was joking smh
@mr i hate my self He was joking... and your also wrong.
Fax
You lost me at "suggs verse" ngl
wdym
This verse is mid
@@Gokusolostheverse7141 mf really replied to a post i sent a year ago ☠
@@Gokusolostheverse7141 o mikei
first
That wouldn’t have happened if I didn’t have a class. 😒