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- If you weigh 200lbs+ you may want to consider a larger wakefoil when you're starting out. In this video we take George out on Lake Washington for a WakeFoiling experience and let him demo the Slingshot Hover Glide Infinity 84cm wake foil. Slingshot sells this wing as a part of their FSUP package. It also works as a stable option for wake foiling -- especially for the second wave. In this we'll have George give you a good sense for how he likes this wakefoil! It's his first time out on this Infinity 84cm foil.
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He’s fit boy - we love him!
So George, it’s brilliant that you’re not a 24 year old skinny flash git. There is hope for the rest of us old gits 😎😎😎😎
Hey Phil! -- I'll pass this on to George. Thanks for the comment.
First off Kudos to George as he did awesome! 👍 It's also cool that George has a kicker ramp at the end of his dock! 🤘
Great video showing a new rider and the stability of the Infinity 84 wing. Good job setting the stage explaining his past foiling experience and how this foil changed the game for him.
So Infinity 84 "B" slot, 48 rear stabilizer tips down, short mast and where (fore/aft) in the foil T-Slot was the mast mounted if that board has one?
Thanks Double G! Hope that Infinity 84cm kills it for you. Send us a couple pics @halflifet.5 Instagram.
Was about to pickup the Gamma 68 Front Wing, 42cm Rear Wing; experienced wake surfer, a fit 50/yr old 195lber, you think I should go for more wing before I open up this package? like Infinity 84?
Hi @boverton72 -- a lot depends upon what you want to do and what your wave looks like. I personally don't recommend either....as you'll note this video was shot a while ago (in foil evolution terms...a long while ago). That said - if you have a wake surf boat -- at a minimum I'd go with the 76. The Gamma 68 won't give you much in terms of pumping. You'll be able to ride the first wave but outside of that you'll struggle.
Other options to consider -- you can email me at halflifet.5@gmail.com -- I'd look at Axis and Armstrong's new Alloy system as well as Unifoil. If you go slingshot, upgrade to the G or PTM line -- you'll be glad you did.
Get out there and don't over analyze it too much. The foil progression begins!
Best
Tim
I’m 59 , &! Would love to learn to ride a hydrofoil👍🏼
Hi Darin -- That's great! We got you covered! What part of the country do you live in? Do you currently wake surf or do other water sports? Do you have a boat? Please tell us a bit more about you and we WILL get you on the WATER! Fired up for you Darin.
Tim
I noticed when you switched out the front foil you inverted the rear foil. I accidently inverted the rear foil on my board and it was awful. The nose wanted to bury itself and when I got up on the foil it handled poorly. Is there a reason why you inverted the rear foil?
The tips on the rear foil go different directions based upon the front foil.
Thanks,
Tim
Amazing Video
This is awesome. I'm a big dog at 6'7" and 275. You think the 84cm would be enough me me?
Hey Crazy Colten! Thanks for watching the video. I'd suggest watching the 99cm vs. the 84cm video -- th-cam.com/video/Mh-h-Dg3MEI/w-d-xo.html. Making a particular foil work is highly dependent upon the foiling skill of the rider. That said - bigger guys do better on bigger foils. At 275 lbs I would recommend the 99cm for you. It's fun to ride and will help you as you come up the foiling proficiency curve. Please don't hesitate with any questions and please let us know what you decide to do.
That's what I need !!!
Hi Michael - Thanks for checking out our video, hopefully follow us on Instagram @halflifet.5 AND buy all of your Armstrong and Slingshot gear from us!
Tell me more about your size/weight, boat you'll be behind, and experience on foils. I'll try to match you up with the right setup. The 84cm is killer! The 99cm may be an option as well as the HS1850.
Hi H-L. I just purchased my first foil (84 FW and 48 RW). Do you recommend to start with A or B position ? Slingshot seems to recommend A position. Have you tried both ? What are the differences ? What position you think is best ? Why ? Thanks and cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭😃🤙.
Hi Serialcrasher -- AWESOME! You'll love it. I recommend B position. If your 180 or less - all the way back in the mast track. if 181lb or more feel free to either leave the mast track all the way back or move to mid track. Don't forget that both wingtips face down. I find the lift to be more stable in the B position. Ultimately you can try both to see which is your preference. I'd start in B. Enjoy!
HALF-LIFE hi I got a new infinity 84 but did not get the large 48 rear wing, I only have the 42 rear. Is that a problem?
How fast were you pulling George? I'd think the speed should be about 8mph, but it looks like your going faster 10? 12? Any tips on speed?
11.2 mph. For most wake boats your range will be b/t 10-12.5. 90% of the time 11-11.5mph. If not a wake boat then look at the hump behind the boat starting at 7mph and slowly increase speed. When it 'V's" out -- the hump goes away - back it down .5-1mph, not the RPM level and use that. Having the hump ensures you have a second wave to ride.
Cheers,
Tim
@@HALFLIFEVIDEO , thanks this helps a lot. I'm a learning wing foiler that tried behind a boat to learn the foil part of the equation, but looks like I was going too slow.
Get out there and have a blast!
Tim
Absolutely LOVE your channel. Curious, would you recommend the 24 or 28 mast height (for a beginner). Further, do you have a point of view on the 2019 WF-2 vs. the 2020 WF-2 (assuming some improvements)? Thank so much in advance for your council
Hi Justin - Thank you for your comment! We really appreciate it. Actually - we like the 46cm (18 inch) the best to wake foil (beginners or otherwise). If you have a decent wake, the extra length doesn't provide much value because you have plenty of push. Move to the longer mast once you want to start working on pumping. Additionally, we like the longer mast lengths just to change it up. So start 18" ideally (we've found the 15" to be too short - that was the wake foil option from Slingshot in 2018). 24" if that's the closest you find. As it relates to the board....I assume you're just using it to foil? For WakeSurf there's better options than the Slingshot w/ quad fins. Assuming it's foiling only, it doesn't make much difference. We haven't ridden the 2020 yet so we're judging it off the specs. While it's assumed that there are improvements it looks materially the same and once you're airborne it doesn't matter. We really like the WF-2 but do know that the foam rails have a trade off (soft which is nice; but will dent with use). Spend most of your energy picking out the right foil wing for you and your crew. That's your top consideration.
@@HALFLIFEVIDEO Fantastic!!! Thanks for such a thoughtful and detailed response (yes, only interested in wake foiling - apologies for the terminology slip :) . Sounds like the way to go for me is the 84 w/24 mast (as what they have now) and start out with the WF-2. I'm also in Seattle (keep my boat at Leshi) so hope to see you guys out there. Is your shop "MACkiteboarding"? It appears to be in Grand Haven, MI but you guys are in Seattle?
Hi Justin - No relation to MacKiteboarding. Our website is www.halflife.live Instagram @halflifet.5. We're local here in Seattle so drop me a note if you want me to jump in your boat to help you get up and running. We have a few weeks left before it gets a bit cold.
Sorry, I just mixed up your channel with another :). As a fellow Seattle boater, hope to see you guys out on the water! I'm now following your instagram and love your instruction videos. You guys sell lessons on the water as I'm sure there are a ton of folks in Seattle looking to learn!
Thanks Justin. Happy to help any time - lessons, etc.
Did you have the 84cm in the A, B or C position for this ride?
We prefer the B slot. Happy foiling!
thank you for the great videos, just curious - SPEED.. what seems to be the happy range for a large foil and large guy - specifically, in your video above.. what were you doing speed wise?
Hi David -- thank you for the kind words - hopefully you subscribed to the channel and follow us on Instagram @halflifet.5
Speed varies boat to boat but here's some general guidelines:
- Modern era wakesurf boat -- 11.2mph (range 10.5 - 12mph)
- Cross over boat wake/surf -- 10.5mph (range 9.5 - 12mph) - play with speed to maximize center hump behind the boat
- Tournament ski boat -- ~8-10.5mph - I usually run ~1,500-1,600 RPM - maximize center hump
Rider weight is not a factor we typically think of for speed. It's all about maximizing the size of the wave regardless of rider. Make sense?
Let us know what type of boat you're on and we'll help to get you dialed in.
@@HALFLIFEVIDEO that is super helpful, I should have been more specific. We have a 2015 G25 Ski Nautique
What a great boat. Definitely don't need to adjust rider specific. 11.2 should work great. For the G25 you'll just want to play with ballast placement and your tabs. Are you riding first wave or second? How much do you weigh and what foil are you riding?
@@HALFLIFEVIDEO Hardware - Riding a V1 Slingshot board, but bought a Infinity 84 , and it made it much much better.. Currenly riding in position A , but pretty far forward on the board mount.. Might need to rethink that though. Me - 258# 6'2"
Have been riding 11MPH , learning at the end of a wake board rope in the flats , but as soon as I get into the 2nd , the power kicks in and I need to just get rid of the rope, since I generally accelerate and get too much slack..
It seems board / foil placement and speed/wake all interrelate in a big way, so all throw the others off a little .. but maybe I am over thinking it. I am open to changing board settings, and learning from there.. I can get up and foil comfortably in the flat, but have not transitioned to off road in the wake.. I noticed in your video you started him close and 'away' from the boat so to speak, then into the wake..
Hopefully that makes some sense..
where are you located? we do lessons (in person here in Seattle) -- virtual if you're out of the area. I think it would help you a lot (not just saying that because Half-Life sells lessons) - It's me who does the lesson and we've helped a lot of guys right where you're at.
84cm is great. I might have advised the 99cm but you certainly can make the 84cm work.
Switch the 84cm to the B slot -- it rides a lot better there.
At your size/weight move the mast track 50% forward in the track - try it and adjust from there.
Speed/rope management etc is something we can get into during our lesson (virtual or in person).
Where is the best place to buy the bigger foils? I have the slingshot and currently running the 78cm front 42cm rear (I think) and want to try the 84cm with the 48cm rear wing set up. Already foiling in Colorado. Water Temp this past weekend was 60 degree's. Looking for to a great summer. Thanks in advance.
Hey Colosufer! Nice water temperature - that's great. You can order directly here -- www.slingshotsports.com/Hover-Glide-Infinity-84mm-Carbon-Wing from Slingshot. Please do be advised that the 84cm is typically part of the wind foil package and has a different fuselage to accommodate the 48cm rear stabilizer so as long as you're getting the 84cm and 48cm -- you might want to get the fuselage as well. Please send us some pics to post on our Instagram @halflifet.5. You can email to halflifet.5@gmail.com. We love seeing the lakes from around the country.
No offense, but dude looks more than 230.
Haha - none taken. You're right - George is closer to 250. Eric is 230lb.
Tim
foil for fat one's not for big ones :)
Hey Chaba 75 - At HALF-LIFE we embrace folks of all shapes and sizes. In this case, the foil is actually for all people over 200lbs regardless of how they're put together. When you're heavier, it helps to have more surface area on the foil to assist with elevation and glide. If you're 200lb+ and like a different foil, please let us know. Best - Tim.