2G Cell Phones Still Work on T-Mobile! Using a RAZR in 2023

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    In this video I demonstrate how old 2G phones like a Nokia or Motorola RAZR still work on T-mobile's 2G network. Most people probably assumed 2G was shut down a long time ago but that's not the case. It still works on any T-mobile MVNO carrier link Mint Mobile, Tello, and Ting. Take a trip back in time and rock out with an old Nokia or Motorola RAZR!
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  • @AntennaMan
    @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว +16

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    • @unitedstatesirie7431
      @unitedstatesirie7431 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Morrison security worked for the USA Government to discredit the conservatives protesting the Vietnam war. Jim Morrison also did not die in Paris France.

    • @jmr
      @jmr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of my videos got demonetized for the Verizon music of a phone booting. It doesn't look like they got you for Moto music just yet. 😅

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jmr that is different, I didn’t get copyrighted for any ringtones but companies are different.

    • @shauny2285
      @shauny2285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too bad the T-mobile 2G network goes away in 2024. I still use a 4G LTE flip phone.

    • @jmr
      @jmr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DG599 The problem is that it's automated. I'm sure I could have fought it as fair use but I wouldn't have made enough money off the video to make fighting it worth my time.

  • @bf0189
    @bf0189 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    A lot of people that work at hospitals still use old pagers and cellphones because the 2G signals can penetrate the interior of the hospital a lot better than 3G and everything after so i suspect they'll leave the 2G on for that reason alone

    • @common_c3nts
      @common_c3nts ปีที่แล้ว +4

      2G, 3G, 4G, 5G are all irrelevant for getting a signal through walls. What matters is lower frequencies. Each carrier uses different frequencies regardless of the bandwidth. But a carrier that uses lower frequencies will penetrate farther through walls.
      But..... any modern hospital would have their own microcells and wifi throughout the hospital to ensure coverage.
      Carriers with GSM bands or LTE bands at 700 mhz and 450 mhz will go farther through walls then carriers using 1ghz and above bands.
      Pagers have bands in much lower frequencies so they can go through walls more like FM Radio can. The lower pager frequency bands are 35-36, 43-44, 152-159, and 454-460 MHz.

    • @bf0189
      @bf0189 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@common_c3nts yeah it's probably less of a problem now admittedly I luckily haven't been to a hospital or even visited someone in about 7-8 years. That said it wouldn't surprise me if some hospitals in the US cheapen out with critical IT infrastructure plus smart phone battery life isn't reliable for such important work so having an old school flip phone or whatever still makes sense.

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2G is going next year

  • @allenvanhellen2572
    @allenvanhellen2572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The saddest thing about this phase out is that these devices still do what they were built to do and can easily have their batteries changed. They have their charms, they're less distracting, and many were built to last a long time. Now we have many devices that can't have their batteries changed easily or don't get enough software updates, rendering them practically disposable. I wish I could continue using my classic Nokia phones on occasion.

    • @martin0499
      @martin0499 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nokia (HMD Global) makes 4G feature phones too

  • @PhaQ2
    @PhaQ2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    3 years on Mint. Haven't ever received spam text or scam calls.
    The only time my phone rings is when someone who has my number calls.

    • @AntennaMan
      @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's truly a great service. I'm glad they partnered with my TH-cam channel to give me a chance to try out the network. It's better than what I have now and I'll be switching once the trial is up!

  • @RadioWhiz
    @RadioWhiz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Old technology is more exciting than new technology on some things

  • @c2jones
    @c2jones ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I'm a T-mobile customer (formerly VoiceStream, originally OmniPoint) since 1998.
    I have all my legacy phones. They all still work. Razr, Pebble, LG1 and a long list of others. I even have the 2G booster in my home should I need it. Nostalgia that still has a pulse.

    • @AntennaMan
      @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That's awesome!

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you make a video on it all

    • @c2jones
      @c2jones ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Corey Babcock
      You mean me to make a video about my legacy phones?
      I don't have a channel. I'm not a content creator. I suppose I could provide something on my own profile page, but I don't have time right now to prioritize. I'll give it thought. (If Tyler desires it for content here, I'll make it a priority.)

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@c2jones would be so awesome to see though

    • @neuideas
      @neuideas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I joined up in 1999.

  • @onehitsword6800
    @onehitsword6800 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Feels like 2003 again, with that phone

    • @chalabrooks5433
      @chalabrooks5433 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like it, too.😂😂😂

    • @happybox333
      @happybox333 ปีที่แล้ว

      The razor was my first phone in 2008 around the same time I started this TH-cam channel.

    • @jaheltelevisionstudios
      @jaheltelevisionstudios 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@happybox333Well why didn't you upload videos from 2008

    • @happybox333
      @happybox333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaheltelevisionstudios I did, they just got deleted. I also had a channel from 2007 but my dad made me delete it.

    • @dumplingsuwu6691
      @dumplingsuwu6691 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Finally..

  • @okaro6595
    @okaro6595 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In Finland they are keeping 2G indefinitely as so many automated devices rely on it. They are closing 3G though.

  • @stevie.dx1710
    @stevie.dx1710 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was addicted to playing Tetris everyday at lunch on my even older version Motorola flip phone in 2001 when none of my coworkers even had a cellphone. Makes you realize how much has changed and what we have now. Thanks for the blast from the past Tyler.

  • @doogie812
    @doogie812 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    T-mobile has been very coy about when they were to shut down 2G. I would not be surprised if the go dark date is extended again. And yes, with the correct APN the data will work. TH-cam will buffer like crazy but it is usable.

    • @roachtoasties
      @roachtoasties ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope it is extended again!

    • @tripleconsonant
      @tripleconsonant หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yep extended again!

  • @zgsrandomnesshub7561
    @zgsrandomnesshub7561 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Thanks for the video, Tyler! In my area, 2G definitely still exists, and calls are nice and clear on the band, but you can tell that T-mobile has been intentionally lowering data speeds on 2G and 3G as they phase it out.
    In 2022, I could use the internet on 2G without much buffering, but not so much this year. They should keep it around for emergency purposes!

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Unfortunately it is shutting down next year. It’s on their website.

    • @BigDish101
      @BigDish101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DG599 I thought they were keeping it up indefinitely for IOT devices and 911 access for non-volte phones...

    • @TechHowden
      @TechHowden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigDish101 nope

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@BigDish101 they can and should, but they really just want to sell people new phones to older customers for greed. Their 2G is weak and cheap and easy to maintain so they can easily keep it up but since they want money…

    • @richvanek1363
      @richvanek1363 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tmob...
      Loweing speeds, reset connections, reroute transmissions. Redefine terms like "limited-unlimited plan." 😂 Englishing the englished vernacular.

  • @FreeTVInfo
    @FreeTVInfo ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Nice. I remember making phone calls on my dad's car phone back in the early 1980's. His car phone operated on UHF and the frequency range was 454.125 - 454.350 Mhz. The car phone was a Motorola Pulsar II .

    • @BigDish101
      @BigDish101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure about that? Should have been 800mhz.

    • @FreeTVInfo
      @FreeTVInfo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BigDish101 Yes. The 800Mhz range are cellular frequencies. This was a UHF car phone and it was the latest and greatest at the time.

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That known as 0G. While such networks often were based on cells they lacked features like automatic routing and seamless transfer that true cellular networks had. There were even citywide systems that were based on just one base station.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improved_Mobile_Telephone_Service
      The systems allowed automatic routing as far as the caller was concerned but the mobile user had to manually register to each cell. It was highly limited by the number of users and so expensive.

    • @FreeTVInfo
      @FreeTVInfo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@okaro6595 That is correct. There was only one base station, in our market, and it was located in downtown Detroit. When you talked on the car phone, the quality was similar to, but, a bit better than a CB radio. Most people are only familar with cell phone systems. Cell phone networks were built out and became popular in the mid to late 1980's. Mobile (car) phones existed since the 1940's.

    • @wadebarnett2542
      @wadebarnett2542 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't have access to a car phone, but there was a radio that allowed me to eavesdrop.

  • @mobilephonesandtech
    @mobilephonesandtech ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I love using the T-Mobile 2G GSM network! It will be a sad day when the network shuts down in April of next year. Many of my retro phones will turn into paperweights. Also, while some areas have great coverage, in others it’s practically useless, which is the case where I am. Nevertheless, it's quite amazing that 2G still exists on a major U.S. carrier in this time.
    Very glad to see the T-Mobile RAZR.

    • @tony997
      @tony997 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi I live in Canada 2G with Roger hasn't been shutdown yet

    • @tony997
      @tony997 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello

    • @mobilephonesandtech
      @mobilephonesandtech 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tony997 Yes, Rogers in Canada still operates GSM and 3G HSPA on the 850mhz band for now, though the PCS 1900 band currently still available in the US was shut down around mid-2021.
      Canada is very fortunate to not experience any of the network issues (voLTE requirements) as found on T-Mobile USA, along with improved coverage quality due to the use of 850.

  • @chuckster255
    @chuckster255 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The reason I heard the 2G is still active is that there is still a lot of equipment (modems and such) that use it, some of that equipment is for medical purposes. This equipment will need to be replaced. That it can still be used for voice is because the carrier's equipment can't differentiate between voice traffic and data traffic.

  • @skiprockjr.6881
    @skiprockjr.6881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My 2G burner phone was awesome. I remember when they shut off service for it. I used to play poker in a remote cabin and no one could get service inside the cabin so they all kept their phones on the front porch, but not me. I still had 2 or 3 bars of service. Anytime I would get a call or a text someone would ask how I got service inside the cabin. I'd tell them 2G.

  • @skylergreen4981
    @skylergreen4981 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been using Mint Mobile for about two years now. It's awesome. Switching to Mint and using an antenna are two ways to really save a lot of money on cell service and tv.

  • @richpontone1
    @richpontone1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love my Mint mobile too. Have had it for past five months and at 20 bucks a month for 15 GBs a month and they threw in 3 months free for three months paid, this is a bargain.
    However, 2G is a dinosaur especially with a Razor. This is why.
    I use my Cellphone, iPhone XR 2018 for internet surfing, using GPS car and map directions, bluetooth, TH-cam viewing and listening to Apple Music. Great video display and music sounds great, with better and easier Bluetooth pairing to my loudspeakers. Ever try downloading photos on 2G. Haircuts takes much less time and time is something we all value.
    This outdated phone of mine outraces the Razor. What a difference that 15 years of technological innovation can do, and what 15 years of consumer demand dictates and expects from our Cellphone.

  • @jmr
    @jmr ปีที่แล้ว +23

    One of the downsides is that these old phones don't support emergency alerts. I tested a bunch of phones from extremely old to brand new. The upside is you can still find batteries for a lot of these!

    • @9852323
      @9852323 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      most people could care less about emergency alerts.

    • @jmr
      @jmr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@9852323 True but it's worth considering. We survived just fine without cell phones at all so that's an option too.

    • @voltare2amstereo
      @voltare2amstereo ปีที่แล้ว

      They do, it's in a menu called cell broadcast.
      A feature since GSM inception

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just before Verizon shut down CDMA, I know someone who got an emergency alert on a CDMA-only phone (2G) and it was inactive. Verizon should have kept their network up as well

    • @jmr
      @jmr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DG599 That's interesting. Verizon 2G/3G phones were in my test batch and none got the alert. 4G phones were the oldest phones I got the alert on. Even some 4G phones aren't compatible with the current alert system. My best guess is the alert you're friend got was from an older system. At one time some areas even used "reverse 911" where they make a robo call to everyone in the area. If I remember correctly though the current alert system is the only version that can send a nation wide alert and it's meant to replace all earlier versions. It has a minimum required version of Android or IOS. I don't know if any version of Harmony OS is compatible.

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I got T-Mobile 5G Home internet earlier this year to save some money, and it's been working out really well at my location, but I honestly had no idea they still had their 2G Network running. 👍
    What's even more interesting to me is that in Mexico you can still buy a 3G only phone with a full physical keyboard called the Ghia 3G GQWERTY that runs KaiOS(looks like the old LG 900G that was on Net10/Tracfone), and I wish it was sold here in the US with 4G LTE as I know a few older people, and people who are into the tech detox thing, where that would be the perfect phone for them to have just enough connectivity where they don't have to do T9 texting on a flip phone.

    • @mitchdenner9743
      @mitchdenner9743 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just returned mine yesterday after the 14 day trial period, was not impressed with there 5 g service both home internet and phone data service, bunch of hype if you ask me.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mitchdenner9743 Like any cell service it depends on your location, and where the towers are too you, and how much load is on them, as I'm in a more rural are of S. Carolina, and after playing around with placement of the T-Mobile Gateway as of late I've been seeing 400Mbps - 600Mbps+ down, by 50Mbps - 150Mbps+ up with pings of 16ms to 60ms depending on the time of day, weather, and tower load, and for the money I've personally been really impressed with it, when the cable company here(Breezeline) charges nearly double for 160Mbps/25Mbps with no equipment rental, and Frontier DSL is a joke!!

    • @mitchdenner9743
      @mitchdenner9743 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Commodorefan64 I was hoping so bad that it was going to work here . I haven't had Internet at least home Internet here in about 13 years. I quit Comcast about 12:13 years ago and I've just been relying on my cellphone data for entertainment. Was getting a Good signal but The speeds would come in-and-out at different hours of the day-and-night seemed more at night time it wouldn't work . To sporadic for me to keep and pay for every month. And according to T-Mobile's coverage map my was fully covered and it seems like there UC ultra coverage every every time that showed up all signal dropped.

  • @seanjones21
    @seanjones21 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How did you know I've been researching this the past week or so?! LMAO. I even got out my old phones to see which ones still work. For the record - I miss my Nextel the most. Thanks for the vid!

    • @artie2099
      @artie2099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I miss Nextel too. Some Nextel models are still useable as long range walkie talkies. They use a phone to phone IDEN connection and do not need towers for DT PTT. Useful for camping or outdoor events. Nextel models compatible with DT PTT are: ic402, ic502, ic602, ic902, i275, i315, i325, i335, i355, i365, i425, i455, i560, i570, i580, i615, i670, i760, i776, i850, i870, i880.

  • @MrMatt1138
    @MrMatt1138 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Takes me back. Still have a phone with the "Hello Moto" sound, and it's not that old a phone!

  • @Auberge79
    @Auberge79 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    NMT-450 was closed around 10 years ago. CDMA450 was closed like 5 years ago. But GSM still works fine literally everywhere in my country except one carrier in one region - they haven't 2g network there. But others have.

  • @tornadokegan
    @tornadokegan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One thing that I find weird is a few days ago I had a 2G signal on my smartphone

  • @voltare2amstereo
    @voltare2amstereo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We lost GSM over a decade ago in Australia and 3g is scheduled to follow suit soon.
    Hasn't heard the dit ditit sound of gsm interference in audio equipment forever

  • @shrimpfry880
    @shrimpfry880 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i don't know why, but VOIP never worked on any of my phones so i've been basically using 2g for more than a decade into the smartphone era without even knowing about it

  • @weatheronthe8s895
    @weatheronthe8s895 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have a lot of enjoyment in testing older cellular networks. Sadly, I live in a part of the country where T-Mobile did not build coverage until after they stopped developing their 2G network, which in my area we didn't get T-Mobile coverage until recently after the Sprint merger when Sprint towers were converted to T-Mobile towers. T-Mobile mostly stopped adding to their 2G network probably about 10 years ago, which leaves the 2G network with many gaps in rural America.
    As a result, the only legacy network still running in my area is US Cellular CDMA (US Cellular is a regional network covering some Mid-Atlantic, Midwest, Northeast, and North-Pacific markets), which sadly isn't as easy as popping a SIM card into an old phone. I still enjoy using it sometimes on my newee phone though since US Cellular is my main carrier, as much as I often wish they weren't. Their CDMA network is sometimes required in places where their coverage isn't very good, as they never properly densified the network during the LTE era.

    • @haroldbeauchamp3770
      @haroldbeauchamp3770 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am very familiar with US Cellular. They had a much larger national presence back in the mid nineties than they do now. Back in the 90s I had a US Cellular phone and they used the TDMA digital network A-side. Their competitor in my area was Southwestern Bell wireless which utilized the TDMA digital network B-side. Back then, the Nokia phones could be changed to access the A or B side of the TDMA network and you could connect to the stronger signal of your choice, even if it was the competitor tower. I quickly learned that once you do that it would register as a roaming call and I would get billed a flat 5 dollar fee and an exorbitant rate per minute.

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 ปีที่แล้ว

      The good days of cellular too

  • @fallwitch
    @fallwitch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still have an old "high end" Razr" still my fav mobile I have ever owned. Thank you I'm gonna try to get it going thanks to this video. Thank you!

  • @journeyon1983
    @journeyon1983 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the Doors t-shirt you're wearing. One of my favorite rock groups. Also thanks for the info on 2G network still working. I have some old cell phones that still use that 2G. I'll look into that soon when my current plan expires.👍

  • @DG599
    @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Keep in mind that some MVNOS and T-Mobile themselves will not work since their new SIM cards do not work with those old ones. Do you have any disconnecting issues on mint? That’s common where T-Mobile and MVNOS “disconnect” the signal and you need to put the sim in a VoLTE or 5G phone for the signal to reconnect. It especially disconnects when using the browser. Also instead of blurring the number, just use *67 next to the number.

    • @nestitog
      @nestitog ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which is the case of the MVNO Hello Mobile...their new SIMs work nicely on Nokias, but on Motorolas uuuuuh not.

    • @waylonfinlay4927
      @waylonfinlay4927 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you're right this was such a big problem for me! How can I make that not happen anymore? Should I get a different brand 2g phone?

    • @DG599
      @DG599 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@waylonfinlay4927 no brand does not matter. Just put the sim in a voLTE phone and switch the volte phone to 2G mode and leave it for about 10-20 minutes. Put the sim back in the old phone and it should work

    • @codyyaaron
      @codyyaaron 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DG599i really hope that works!! I have a razr v3 coming for tmobile and im a tmobile user but people are saying it says "check sim" so I am hoping if I do what is stated above it will work!!! 😊

    • @DG599
      @DG599 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@codyyaaron if it says check sim, then that means the sim is too new and the trick won’t work. It’s for when the sim loses signal, the check sim error is different.

  • @weegeemike
    @weegeemike ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My god this was nostalgic. My buddy's dad ran a razr until he finally broke down for a cheap android a couple years back...i remember playing games on my old Nokia. The golf game he showed looked super cool!

  • @whited586
    @whited586 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As someone who was born in 2000, As a young kid I remember my mom having one of these through Verizon. I remember it so well.

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My sister probably still has the Motorola RAZR in her storage, but it’s a Cingular phone, the T Mobile phones I used to have was a Samsung flip phone and a Nokia 3200! I don’t have them anymore, even if I did I’m not going to buy another service, only use for just several months and T Mobile will shut it down in less than a year.

  • @sidewinder3434
    @sidewinder3434 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Antenna Man for the info ! . I have 2 old but in new condition, rarely used T Mobile phones which were ready to be recycled , both Samsung, 1- flip phone T-139 (2G) and a T-199 candy bar phone ( 3G). I may hold onto them until April 2024 when they close down 2G . My T Mobile Sim cards are old and expired so I would have to purchase new Sims . Will try Mint !.

  • @roberthansen2008
    @roberthansen2008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey cool I'm glad you showed us this. I like that old school stuff. Those were the good old days.

  • @sams3015
    @sams3015 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Hallo Moto” brought me back. Here in Ireland, 2G still works I think, some granny’s still have them. Sometimes you get it if you somewhere very rural on your iPhone

  • @aaronhendrickson
    @aaronhendrickson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could test it out with an android phone by doing this:
    1) go to connects and then mobile networks
    2) find the network type box
    3) open drop down menu and select 2g only
    I have tried it already. Give your phone a little bit of time to connect. T-Mobile is going to keep 3g active.
    Highway 53 going northwest from Las Vegas. During a long time on that stretch is only 2g available. I don't know if 5g has coverage in that area yet.

  • @louisd95714
    @louisd95714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this information. I find the "Hello Moto" ringtone to be iconic. For me, it brings back a ton of memories.

  • @JohnAckerman93
    @JohnAckerman93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember getting my first phone when I was entering junior high. It was a Motorola V195 flip phone. It lasted a while. I then got a Nokia flip phone, and that was nice too. Really the first smart phone I got was an LG. That lasted for a long time, and now I have a galaxy a12

  • @theflipphonechannel8198
    @theflipphonechannel8198 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still use T-Mobile 2G with my Red Pocket sim and some Portuguese and UK sims I purchased overseas. Sadly 2G coverage in my area degraded recently and is no longer usable. Call quality is abysmal and my phones frequently lose service

  • @beavis5067
    @beavis5067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a Razr V3m. This video really makes me miss it. 😔

  • @GerardPinzone
    @GerardPinzone ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I remember when the analog service went down. A lot of security systems lost connectivity to the central monitoring service. When 2G goes away, there will be a new round of paperweight security systems.

    • @JK-mo2ov
      @JK-mo2ov ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most security systems have already migrated to 4G since the majority use ATT.

    • @GerardPinzone
      @GerardPinzone ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JK-mo2ov And how does that affect all the existing alarm systems that use 2g?

    • @JK-mo2ov
      @JK-mo2ov ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GerardPinzone there are very few remaining, and a lot of units with cell connections on 3G just required a radio component swap when ATT discontinued 3G. The concern about systems going to waste for TMo 2G discontinuing is negligible.

    • @GerardPinzone
      @GerardPinzone ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JK-mo2ov And yet a 2 second Google search suggests otherwise.

  • @H4TTOR1_H4NZO
    @H4TTOR1_H4NZO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still have 2 razr phones. Thanks for the video, i didn't think it was possible to still use one, im going to pull mine out

  • @trikeonabike4949
    @trikeonabike4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hearing that classic Motorola Razr ringtone brought back some memories lol. Ironically I still have my Razr in my dresser drawer, but the screen doesn't turn on anymore, but the keys still light up. I only kept the thing for nostalgia 😅📞

  • @theduckthatquacks6445
    @theduckthatquacks6445 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Antenna man meets retro ! Show us how to use a rotary dial phone next T !

  • @jamesdriver0317
    @jamesdriver0317 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I decided to test my iPhone 5 on iOS 6.1.4 (downgraded) with my T-Mobile SIM card, and it worked. Then I stuck my main Mint Mobile SIM card in it and it worked. I downgraded to iOS 6 so I could experience the iPhone 5 that I never got to (I was only 6 in 2012)

  • @rorysalarms8110
    @rorysalarms8110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool Antenna man i have a Nokia 7610 2G cell phone and it still can pick up a signal.

  • @HERBYWALLACE3
    @HERBYWALLACE3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still use mine, not as good reception in the mountains, still works

  • @Pamela-Captain-Peeps
    @Pamela-Captain-Peeps ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg I loved this!!!!! Brought back great memories and live those sounds

  • @mq5276
    @mq5276 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still have my old Motorola razor, a BlackBerry flip, and two Windows phones and my first cell phone although I don't know where it is or what kind, just that it was fat and it had a separate battery pack and an external antenna ( not the 70s kind!) I use my windows phone to play mahjong every night before bed.

  • @mide9876
    @mide9876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here 2g is active on all 3 main operators (italy) and only vodafone has a 2g shutdown date, i get full EDGE on my BB 8520 and the same on my Nokia 6150, we have 900-1800 as GSM

  • @Rich_123
    @Rich_123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where in PA are you seeing AT&T speeds that low? I've never gotten under 20, and that's usually in places where T-mobile doesn't work at all.

  • @Mr.Avuncular
    @Mr.Avuncular ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually have a razor in my possession just might have to activate it!! Thanx Tyler

  • @lklpalka
    @lklpalka ปีที่แล้ว

    I had no idea thanks Tyler, very interesting! I''m going to try it with my own Mint sim. Fun retro :)

  • @jackolope2217
    @jackolope2217 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still see 3G on Verizon in some places here in alaska. iPhone 14 pro

    • @videos4life
      @videos4life ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow I didn't know they made 3G iPhone 14 models pretty amazing that 3G is still working in some areas

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว

      3G is still in Alaska from Verizon??

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or does it show extended network?

  • @Madness832
    @Madness832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a Razr about 15 years ago. Still miss it!

  • @danlah1303
    @danlah1303 ปีที่แล้ว

    So far so good with Mint! My OnStar hotspot died in my vehicle so I'm trying it out using an old phone to make a mobile hotspot.

    • @AntennaMan
      @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Mint Mobile is great!

  • @phili4600
    @phili4600 ปีที่แล้ว

    I forgot about that golf game you played on that phone! I sucked at it but would play it so much

  • @MrMayhem420
    @MrMayhem420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, I have one still, brand new, figured it was just a nostalgic paperweight 👍

  • @321CatboxWA
    @321CatboxWA ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool departure . Had no idea. Thanx!

  • @grantwilcox330
    @grantwilcox330 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow that RAZR brings up good memories. I remember how thin it was.

  • @megacap55
    @megacap55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i am from Santiago Chile and I remember used a Ericsson ca638 huge phone but has great battery life later a Nokia and then a Sony Ericsson phones over Entel PCS network the only time tried a CDMA phone got broken by itself and the calls were horrible due the interference noise that was heard which was not acceptable

  • @1HandsomeDevil
    @1HandsomeDevil ปีที่แล้ว

    My Nokia 2720 Fold (circa 2009) is still chugging along quite well.

  • @michaelhuynh8793
    @michaelhuynh8793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Analog cell phones can be heard on uhf channels 70 thru 83

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tried it back in the late 90s couldn't hear anything

  • @mannhimself
    @mannhimself ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a prepaid tmobile phone I got in 2010 to expierment with, I should bust it out. Just wish the Nextel iDen network was still around that would be a fun video to do with internet tethering at half of dialup speeds. I tried it back with a Boost mobile Motorola i290 then and it was atrocious but it worked.

  • @knightta82
    @knightta82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As some comments indicated, this appears to not work with the MVNO Tello. Decided to give it a go buying a cheap T-Mobile Razr and a 5 dollar plan from Tello. Inserted sim into Razr after activating on iPhone and the Razr gives a sim error. Not too surprising but saddening, nonetheless. Hope this helps anyone looking to try this out.

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not just tello. The sim error is because new T-Mobile sims don’t work in older phones anymore (pre-UMTS). And the disconnecting issue can happen anytime.

  • @Mr.Avuncular
    @Mr.Avuncular ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using for awhile now...several months and my only gripe is that if you only want to pay a month you must continue to pay whatever you did the prior month🙄

  • @cgo8026
    @cgo8026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you ever make a review on the just released Zapperbox indoor/outdoor antenna?

    • @AntennaMan
      @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not yet but will in the future.

    • @cgo8026
      @cgo8026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AntennaMan Just had to ask, thank you so much.

  • @felicciasc
    @felicciasc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I worked on the migration from analog to 2g

    • @AntennaMan
      @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting! I heard in the analog days you could hear cell phone calls if you tuned an old TV to above channel 69..

    • @felicciasc
      @felicciasc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AntennaMan absolutely. Back in 86 had a black and white 12" kmc(k mart corporation) and used to use the fine tuning to pick up different calls

  • @ns4270railfan
    @ns4270railfan ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, the old school flip phones. I used to use a flip phone and I had for years until when 5G came out and when the day 3G was shut down, I was forced to upgrade to a smart phone because of that. I really miss my old flip phone. There was one feature I liked that I could set a specific ringtone for a specific person that would call me, and I also remember I could record a custom ringtone and use it for my main ringtone. I can't really do that with my smart phone, but my smart phone has some great things that my flip phone can't do. I love the GPS function on it because it uses Google Maps and I used that numerous times to go to the Strasburg railroad in Lancaster County and to Port Clinton where it houses the headquarters of the Reading & Northern railroad. I couldn't do that with a flip phone, but I do miss texting using the numbers on the keypad. At times if you needed the same letter of that number group, you have to wait 2 seconds to use that same letter. I was a pain, but I got used to that. With a smart phone, you can just type like a computer. I know times had changed and I watched some of your videos of digital TV antennas and they are interesting. After the 2009 analog shutdown, it's not the same especially if you were camping and wanted to tune into a local station on a portable TV. I do miss analog. Oh well, there's some things that kind of forces us to upgrade when we don't want to. Thanks for sharing this and I just subscribed. Keep these great advice videos coming.

  • @gabrieluruguay1
    @gabrieluruguay1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG i love the vintage stuff like phones Works 2G!! Great 😮

  • @autisticrebel1253
    @autisticrebel1253 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been using a 2g phone for about 10 years and I have never had problems with the signals. Vodafone still have 2g for calls and texts.

  • @jeffkardosjr.3825
    @jeffkardosjr.3825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When T-Mobile did have more 2g sites around Scranton, a lot of them wouldn't pass data anyways.
    It either wasn't connected for that or at capacity.
    When I was gaming on 4G, I would often run into lag at some point and I would switch to 3G for awhile.

    • @jeffkardosjr.3825
      @jeffkardosjr.3825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indigo, which was or is a roaming partner for T-Mobile, for a long time only ever was 2G with no data, for the MVNO I was using anyways

    • @jeffkardosjr.3825
      @jeffkardosjr.3825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indigo, which was or is a roaming partner for T-Mobile, for a long time only ever was 2G with no data, for the MVNO I was using anyways

  • @douglaskegley2617
    @douglaskegley2617 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dinging the Doors T shirt Tyler! 👍🏼

  • @pixelgriffstudios
    @pixelgriffstudios ปีที่แล้ว

    G and Edge still works even my Android phone will use those bands sometimes despite being a 5g plus phone

  • @echonomad94
    @echonomad94 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually use a RAZR V3XX as a spare phone. It has 3G, which isn’t going anywhere soon in my town (we don’t even have good 4G lol)

  • @roachtoasties
    @roachtoasties ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope T-Mobile extends that April 2024 date. I have a collection of old phones too that I hope will still work for me.

    • @Scruds
      @Scruds 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They won’t most likely

    • @TheJimmyCartel
      @TheJimmyCartel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      they did move it back.

  • @user-wl2qm4tp4q
    @user-wl2qm4tp4q ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not surprised. 2g and 5g are selectable options in network settings. Frequency on a network. A T-Mobile control panel let's the consumer switch for Internet.
    Manually for phones.
    They probably have an intent to phase out 2g. IMO, it's closer to having a backup for network outages.

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s going away next year. To be honest it should stay and since it’s a weak network crammed with LTE, there’s zero reason they should shut it down.

    • @user-wl2qm4tp4q
      @user-wl2qm4tp4q ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DG599 Going to be terrible in my area. The 5g connection is less stable than LTE.
      Not always.

  • @stevejohnson1321
    @stevejohnson1321 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would not want a return to second-generation ATT. If the motorola 175 couldn't get signal, it would poll full-boot trying to find signal. That ran down the battery very quickly. This might have just been a "cheap design" issue, but it doesn't happen on my fourth-generation Alcatel. Also of course, voice-over IP brings better sound quality, transferred more efficiently. There are sometimes good reasons to advance.

  • @Gintokikreuz1
    @Gintokikreuz1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use Metro by T-mobile and I love it. But I do have to say the Speedtest is done wrong. Since Cricket Wireless throttles speed. You would have to use At&t service not Cricket Wireless.

    • @garyalwine4489
      @garyalwine4489 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mint throttles after you use all your data too. I tried it.

    • @AntennaMan
      @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, my friend had AT&T in the same location and it was the same speed. Cricket actually no longer throttles speeds like they used to a few years ago.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntennaMan I'm on the Cricket 4 line family plan and they cap the speeds even 5G at 3Mbps/3Mbps, and at least in my area of the south east the service quality has gotten worse that I'm getting about 1/2 that speed most of the time unless I'm really close to a tower, so yeah I'm looking to switch my family to T-Mobile towers soon, so I'll be checking out the Mint mobile plans to see if they are right for us, or if we will go with the Metro family plan for the same money as Cricket.

    • @AntennaMan
      @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CommodoreFan64 They used to cap the family plan at 3mbps but stopped over a year ago. I get speeds around 50mbps in some areas but in other areas it's horrible.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntennaMan I live right on the border of SC/GA , and no matter where I go in either state all 4 of our phones are capped at 3Mbps/3Mbps even my unlocked Nokia G50(even my older Moto G's, and Alcatel), I've never seen faster than 3Mbps/3Mbps except a 2sec speed test burst that goes right back down while on AT&T towers. I get home and on my T-Mobile 5G Home internet connection connected to my Gateway I'm seeing well over 200Mbps on that phone over WiFi with my actual connection being around 400Mbps - 600Mbps+ by 50Mbps - 150Mbps+ depending on weather, tower load, and time of day. So yeah Cricket/AT&T is indeed throttling people on the family plans.

  • @stuarthirsch
    @stuarthirsch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the point? It will only work for about a year anyway. It would be great if they would make 2G open source and free of charge through a not for profit or the FCC. Just request a sim card for a nominal fee (or free from the FCC),You would receive a SIM card and a phone number, but no monthly charge ever. 2G or even 3G would become the successor to Citizens Band (CB) radio, Repeaters would be cheap and be solar powered and on cars and trucks or just about anywhere. Get a phone and/or a SIM card for an existing 2G or 3G phone with repeater for between $25-$100 and have cell phone service forever.The low VHF band would be ideal for such a service.

  • @dumplingsuwu6691
    @dumplingsuwu6691 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You reached the good ol' days

  • @rotncryptobits5242
    @rotncryptobits5242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ReLive retro tech - back to basics !

  • @DG599
    @DG599 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You forgot to mention the 2G disconnecting issue with mint mobile (and sometimes T-Mobile).

  • @ktb
    @ktb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah I knew about this. Sad thing is it probably won't last forever

  • @timothyweers8054
    @timothyweers8054 ปีที่แล้ว

    As nostalgic as this is, I can't go back to an old 2g phone without a touch screen for typing, or watching a video.

  • @Deniselhb
    @Deniselhb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!!!

  • @baconsledge
    @baconsledge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If my Razr would charge the battery, I would be all set!

  • @Bluethunderboom
    @Bluethunderboom ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking of the RAZR, I remember seeing the movie of Barnyard that he has the same phone in 2006.

  • @tenlittleindians
    @tenlittleindians ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even if your carrier is using the same network backbone there's no guarantee they will support these older phones!
    My old carrier forced me to upgrade my phone when they upgraded their system even though my phone was purchased from them!
    It's not that they work it's a matter of who still has the ability to still support older connectivity.

  • @bobblair2682
    @bobblair2682 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow throwback. I remember when I discovered I could text my photos to an email address to save them.

    • @AntennaMan
      @AntennaMan  ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to do this too!

  • @davenwin1973
    @davenwin1973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn't be able to use my 2G phones, as they were Verizon phones, and their 2G is already shut off. The 2G phones I had on Verizon were: Motorola 120c, Samsung a650 (first color screen phone, and last phone with analog on it), Samsung a930, Motorola W755, and a Samsung basic phone i forgot the model number. I refused to get the Razr, because I thought the phone was too flimsy. I was right, as i knew plenty of co-workers who got the phone, and regardless of carrier, they were too rough on the phone, that the phone broke too easily, and were replacing their phones too often. The Motorola W755 was the closest to the Razr I got, and it was built a bit sturdier.
    As for trying to get a 2G GSM phone, i have no desire to get one, and i especially dont want to go back to using T-Mobile's network again. Even after integrating Sprint's network into theirs, coverage still has not improved in too many areas I travel locally. There are still too many areas where T-Mobile still has no service, and where service is being added, extremely rural areas are getting the bare minimum coverage, while the densely populated areas get the coverage and speeds.

  • @riskidxer
    @riskidxer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my country (Indonesia) 2G still worth it
    2G network it's choice for calls and SMS
    Internet connection using 2G very slow

  • @davidgrim5990
    @davidgrim5990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 2G is up mostly for bike rentals, GPS tags and other industrial uses not for consumers directly.

    • @Auberge79
      @Auberge79 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's what I was just about to write. 2G is used in too many devices like industrial modems, traffic lights, automatic gates etc.

  • @9852323
    @9852323 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive tried and put my tmobile sim card in my iphone 5s hoping it will work on 2g for calls and LTE for data and it doesn't. WiFi calling can be activated and works though. The 5S supports 2G/3G and 4G/LTE but doesn't support voLTE so it drops down to 2G/3G for calls and uses LTE for data.

    • @DG599
      @DG599 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it’s the disconnecting issue that struck it

  • @ecash00
    @ecash00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you can keep the resolution of the pic, it looks fine, but .3mp is SMALL..

  • @mkuhlman77
    @mkuhlman77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's probably lightning fast vs when everyone has 2G phones .

  • @bigred9428
    @bigred9428 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm over 60, and I wouldn't know a G if I tripped over one. I have a flip phone and I use T-Mobile. This is the first I've heard of them shutting down the older Gs in 2024. I just use my phone for calls, which sound still better than most smart phones. Do you know if it will still work for calls?

    • @mobilephonesandtech
      @mobilephonesandtech 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your phone may work after 2024 but it depends on the model. If it's from before 2016, chances are, it only supports 2G and 3G. 4G and 5G phones are required past 2024.

  • @Pacificbell
    @Pacificbell ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now only if I can roll around town with my portable analog tv and watch it

  • @AttorneyBCollins
    @AttorneyBCollins ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an iphone 3GS. That would be cool to use as a last gasp.

  • @hornick18
    @hornick18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:35-3:10 great unintentional ASMR