It's interesting but when I have a medium format itch that needs scratching I grab a roll or two of Ektar 100 in 120 and take my Mamiya C220 out for some exploring. I will also note that the twin lens cameras have a distinct advantage over the variety of medium format SLR's that were once so common. That is the mirror doesn't move. So no need to pre-release the mirror to avoid the vibration of mirror slap in the SLR's. And that mirror slap could be significant with some models because that is a rather large piece of glass in motion.
I enjoyed your renewed (continued) enthusiasm for photography! Manual focus is like driving a stick shift car. Need to pay attention and be in the moment. The lens has more of an analogue feel to it, like a vinyl record. As technology increases, humans tend to have a natural resistance to it - looking for a more engaging experience. How fun. I had no idea this adapter existed. You did a nice job explaining how it works. Thanks for you effort making the video and Go Pack Go!
They do, but its a special order. Click on this link for the RF mount and then once in do a search for z-mount and there is one for ordering that is $500. bhpho.to/3YQPwGA
Thanks for this new topic, it is very intriguing indeed, sound almost like a 'cheat-code' for the best of both worlds. I gather there is another Chinese manufatcturer like Kipon, too. XPimage, price wise seems maybe even lower, it seems to have a sturdy fixing ring too to that price already. I am not sure I will ever want to buy into an RF-lens for these prices, trying to operate my R6Mk2 with EF and also experimenting with a simpler vintage M42 line. If I can get a decent copy of a M645 lens, I will want to try that route, too. I am glad you tried to explain this compresison thingy. I still have to digest it, but it I am sold.
@@yellowbearworks2535 thank you! It’s a fun new path with a similar feel. I have a Mamiya 80mm 2.8 coming tomorrow which is the field of f view of a 56mm on a full frame. I have to imagine more companies will come out with similar setups.
@@yellowbearworks2535 I'll explain it in a video, but in a nutshell the 2.8 is a lot cheaper and sharper at 2.8. From my understanding the 1.9 is super soft, but gives a unique bokeh. The price and sharpness beat out the other for me.
Thanks Mark! I agree. The 45mm has the compression that is familiar with our natural site and the field of view of a 31mm hits the width of our peripheral vision pretty close. It has a more natural feel to it. The compression of a 80mm with field of view of a 56mm should be really interesting.
They should make a adapter for Bronica lenses. I may suggest you look at the newer version of these lenses and in the 80s I did not find Mamiya 645 to be very sharp and photographers with older clients actually liked it that way.... so look for 90s lenses- probably the newer the better...
I think there is a Mamiya to Bronica adapter you could add on, but I'm not 100% sure. As for sharpness you're correct. I ended up buying the Mamiya 80 2.8, which is a lot sharper and newer than the 80 1.9. I'm almost a week into using that lens and will have a follow up video on that look. The 45 2.8 is pretty sharp too, especially at f4. The tough part about this new rabbit trail is the fact that every thing is used and old, so you have to make sure you're getting a good copy.
“Clinically perfect” is a good way to understand the latest (RF) tech, when you’re simply looking for something different from everyone else’s images. I would be new to medium format, just as I was once new to full frame from crop. So, I would get to let in more light and perhaps better bokeh?
Yeah, this would get you into the look of Medium format without fully committing into the system. This speedboooster/focal reducer will give you more light, shallower depth of field and wider field of view. Keep in mind it will be manual focusing, but for me it isn't a big deal.
This product is really expensive =Baveyes Mamiya 645-Canon EOS RF 0.7, but sure I will buy one day, because I really bloody dam convinced by your video
😂 I never want people to go broke by what I like and recommend but if you can afford it…it’s pretty fun. The Mamiya 80 2.8 arrives today and I will be doing tests on that. After the 45 and 80 I don’t really know if there is another focal length I’m interested in.
Its Eos a word not initials... many people think its an acronym its NOT its (ee yos) Eos like the goddess. Greek goddess of dawn is what Canon named their system from. Fun facts!
Thao for sharing information about another dimension of this hobby. I'm not sure that I understand what you mean by "compression." Is that compression of depth of field or magnification of objects far into the frame (depth compression)? I'm a fan of Canon's tilt-shift lenses. Like medium format, they project a much larger circle of light into the camera body. The photographer achieves unique looks using the lens movements.
Your welcome. I think the best way for me to explain compression is how big or small an object is in the background of the subject. The longer the lens the more compression making the background seem closer to the subject than it really is. A 35mm would make mountains look far away where a 200mm would make them look closer. The medium Format keeps the compression but gives more field of view in the frame. It’s always a hard thing to explain and probably easier to show.
@@pslaathaug could be. I don’t have much experience in Astro photography. Sigma makes really fast EF primes at 1.4 that are around 14mm that may be a better choice.
@@StarLightDotPhotos I did a quick search and I see Kipon has the same speedbooster for Pentax 645 to RF. You may be able to get a cheap adapter onto it to convert the pentax or to a mamiya lens and that way you have the privilege to shoot different medium format brands. kipon.com/product/baveyes-p645-eos-r-0-7x/
Great video, Jared. I don’t know of anyone else who has adapted MF 645 lenses on an R5 so thanks for being a trailblazer. What manual focus aids did you find most helpful on your R5 Mark Ii?
@@doogieham thank you! I used the can focus assist where it shows a red or blue in what’s in focus but what I found the easiest was just using the magnify glass zoom and getting focus down there and then shooting or filming. I think longer focus length will be easier to nail focus too.
Years ago I had a third party adapter to attach my M645 lenses to my Canon EF 5DII. Great image quality but did not focus to infinity. I finally sold all my M645 gear but stayed with Canon. You got my interest up again...
still Full Frame set up lol. You pixel pitch is no where near medium format. It’s like putting a suv tire on the Honda civic and calling it a Honda Pilot lol. I do have many medium format legendary lenses may try it for fun but Kipon focal reducer ones are pretty expense adapters.
The "look" of medium format is what I want. When you have the compression of a 45mm with the Field Of View of a 31mm or the Compression of a 80mm with the Field Of View of a 56mm it give such an amazing look. Plus you are getting a larger Field Of View using this adapter with a Mamiya lens than the Fugi Medium Format cameras allow. I think this is a relatively inexpensive way for people to get their feet wet with the Medium Format look without breaking the bank.
it’s not. The look is completely different. You are getting the compression of a 45mm with the field of view of a 31mm. I have the 80mm too and you get a 80mm compression with a field of view of a 56mm. People shoot medium format for the look they produce. It’s kinda a larger than life feel in the images. Makes you feel closer to the subject yet gives a wider view.
Medium format has nothing to do with "pixel pitch" or pixels at all. The fact that you used that term here gives me the impression that you don't know what it means. Sensors of the same size in any format will have a different pixel pitch depending on their resolution. Medium format lenses have a larger projected image circle and a different field of view for the same focal length, that's what this video is about.
Nice! CVP done a great video on this subject. I’m in the APS C realm and I got the 0.71 canon reducer so I have some focal length options with the Canon EF lenses. They do cost a pretty penny for sure
Wow 🤩 and ironically I was just researching how to stitch 2 vertical images with a pancake 45mm to get that compression but with a 22.5mm field of view …nice 👌
That's very cool, I do love the idea of unique looks on mirrorless, more than film actually😅😅😅. I've done vintage, fd and other, types of lenses on my R6 II, now I need to explore the medium format route. My wallet and my wife won't be happy about this😂. I will let her know it was your idea😊😊😊
A medium-format digital camera has a physically larger sensor than a Canon full-frame sensor. Adapting lenses from medium-format cameras to a Canon full-frame sensor is not medium-format!
hear me out... a digital back adapted to a vintage Film Hasselblad would probably cost the same as that kit. I'm just shooting from the hip, didn't actually run the numbers. or a "muh mee uhh" 645 would probably be cheaper, and they make a digital back for that too i think.
I’m not familiar with digital back but the option of shooting raw video with this lens on my canon r5 II is pretty awesome. I did some 8k video with the Mamiya 45 2.8 and the sharpness and detail is amazing.
@ hey, I am just dipping my toes into all this photography stuff. I picked up a Canon A-1 (35mm) camera about 9 months ago and I’m self teaching the craft. I read a lot and watch a lot of videos. Phase One makes digital backs for a lot of the film medium format cameras that had interchangeable backs, where the 120 film would go. And I covet them, but I am still learning the ropes.
It’s fun and could have a use case professionally depending on the project, but definitely worth it on the hobby side. Rokinon and TTartisan have done a good job bring unique looks in a modern fashion as well. I wouldn’t mind comparing them one day.
It's interesting but when I have a medium format itch that needs scratching I grab a roll or two of Ektar 100 in 120 and take my Mamiya C220 out for some exploring. I will also note that the twin lens cameras have a distinct advantage over the variety of medium format SLR's that were once so common. That is the mirror doesn't move. So no need to pre-release the mirror to avoid the vibration of mirror slap in the SLR's. And that mirror slap could be significant with some models because that is a rather large piece of glass in motion.
I enjoyed your renewed (continued) enthusiasm for photography! Manual focus is like driving a stick shift car. Need to pay attention and be in the moment. The lens has more of an analogue feel to it, like a vinyl record. As technology increases, humans tend to have a natural resistance to it - looking for a more engaging experience. How fun. I had no idea this adapter existed. You did a nice job explaining how it works. Thanks for you effort making the video and Go Pack Go!
Thank you! This was a fun video to make.
I have Hasselblad Zeiss lenses (4 so far) for the old film V-Series camera (503cx). Does Kipon do focal reducers for these to the Nikon z mount?
They do, but its a special order. Click on this link for the RF mount and then once in do a search for z-mount and there is one for ordering that is $500. bhpho.to/3YQPwGA
Here is the link to z-mount. Let me know if that looks right for your hasselblad mount. bhpho.to/40NbnBA
I am looking into it....
Yes...I would like to see this with the 60mm, also with the 110/2.8 for some portrait work. I shot a pair of Bronica etrsi's for years.
Thanks for this new topic, it is very intriguing indeed, sound almost like a 'cheat-code' for the best of both worlds. I gather there is another Chinese manufatcturer like Kipon, too. XPimage, price wise seems maybe even lower, it seems to have a sturdy fixing ring too to that price already.
I am not sure I will ever want to buy into an RF-lens for these prices, trying to operate my R6Mk2 with EF and also experimenting with a simpler vintage M42 line. If I can get a decent copy of a M645 lens, I will want to try that route, too.
I am glad you tried to explain this compresison thingy. I still have to digest it, but it I am sold.
@@yellowbearworks2535 thank you! It’s a fun new path with a similar feel. I have a Mamiya 80mm 2.8 coming tomorrow which is the field of f view of a 56mm on a full frame. I have to imagine more companies will come out with similar setups.
@@JaredHoyman +1 I am also eyeing with that 80/2.8 not the 1.9! ❤
@@yellowbearworks2535 I'll explain it in a video, but in a nutshell the 2.8 is a lot cheaper and sharper at 2.8. From my understanding the 1.9 is super soft, but gives a unique bokeh. The price and sharpness beat out the other for me.
100% dig the image, looks really good.
Thanks Mark! I agree. The 45mm has the compression that is familiar with our natural site and the field of view of a 31mm hits the width of our peripheral vision pretty close. It has a more natural feel to it. The compression of a 80mm with field of view of a 56mm should be really interesting.
They should make a adapter for Bronica lenses. I may suggest you look at the newer version of these lenses and in the 80s I did not find Mamiya 645 to be very sharp and photographers with older clients actually liked it that way.... so look for 90s lenses- probably the newer the better...
I think there is a Mamiya to Bronica adapter you could add on, but I'm not 100% sure. As for sharpness you're correct. I ended up buying the Mamiya 80 2.8, which is a lot sharper and newer than the 80 1.9. I'm almost a week into using that lens and will have a follow up video on that look. The 45 2.8 is pretty sharp too, especially at f4. The tough part about this new rabbit trail is the fact that every thing is used and old, so you have to make sure you're getting a good copy.
and the compression is going to be wonderful with an 80mm lens at f4 -
“Clinically perfect” is a good way to understand the latest (RF) tech, when you’re simply looking for something different from everyone else’s images. I would be new to medium format, just as I was once new to full frame from crop. So, I would get to let in more light and perhaps better bokeh?
Yeah, this would get you into the look of Medium format without fully committing into the system. This speedboooster/focal reducer will give you more light, shallower depth of field and wider field of view. Keep in mind it will be manual focusing, but for me it isn't a big deal.
This product is really expensive =Baveyes Mamiya 645-Canon EOS RF 0.7, but sure I will buy one day, because I really bloody dam convinced by your video
😂 I never want people to go broke by what I like and recommend but if you can afford it…it’s pretty fun. The Mamiya 80 2.8 arrives today and I will be doing tests on that. After the 45 and 80 I don’t really know if there is another focal length I’m interested in.
Its Eos a word not initials... many people think its an acronym its NOT its (ee yos) Eos like the goddess. Greek goddess of dawn is what Canon named their system from. Fun facts!
EOS stands for Electro-Optical System that Canon phrased. They have been using that verbiage since 1985. The Greek goddess view is an untrue rumor.
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No it comes from the Greek goddess and they just played off that. I even wrote a paper on the whole thing way back.
Thao for sharing information about another dimension of this hobby. I'm not sure that I understand what you mean by "compression." Is that compression of depth of field or magnification of objects far into the frame (depth compression)?
I'm a fan of Canon's tilt-shift lenses. Like medium format, they project a much larger circle of light into the camera body. The photographer achieves unique looks using the lens movements.
Your welcome. I think the best way for me to explain compression is how big or small an object is in the background of the subject. The longer the lens the more compression making the background seem closer to the subject than it really is. A 35mm would make mountains look far away where a 200mm would make them look closer. The medium Format keeps the compression but gives more field of view in the frame. It’s always a hard thing to explain and probably easier to show.
@@JaredHoyman - Helpful. Thanks!
Do you think that setup would be good for astrophotography?
@@pslaathaug could be. I don’t have much experience in Astro photography. Sigma makes really fast EF primes at 1.4 that are around 14mm that may be a better choice.
Great now the prices on mamiya lenses are going to go up. Happy Saturday, Jared!
Oh, I thought of that. That's why I need to make some purchases quickly ;). Happy Saturday!
@@JaredHoyman The only medium format lenses I have are for the pentax 645. I wonder if they are too small to adapt to the Canon R mount.
@@StarLightDotPhotos I did a quick search and I see Kipon has the same speedbooster for Pentax 645 to RF. You may be able to get a cheap adapter onto it to convert the pentax or to a mamiya lens and that way you have the privilege to shoot different medium format brands. kipon.com/product/baveyes-p645-eos-r-0-7x/
Great video, Jared. I don’t know of anyone else who has adapted MF 645 lenses on an R5 so thanks for being a trailblazer. What manual focus aids did you find most helpful on your R5 Mark Ii?
@@doogieham thank you! I used the can focus assist where it shows a red or blue in what’s in focus but what I found the easiest was just using the magnify glass zoom and getting focus down there and then shooting or filming. I think longer focus length will be easier to nail focus too.
Years ago I had a third party adapter to attach my M645 lenses to my Canon EF 5DII. Great image quality but did not focus to infinity. I finally sold all my M645 gear but stayed with Canon. You got my interest up again...
Yeah, the Kipon allows Mamiya to focus to infinity which is very nice.
Will they eventually adapt my Bronica medium format lenses?
Looks like you can put a small conversion adapter onto the Mamiya mount to use your Bronica, so I would say yes. amzn.to/3YyHbaA
still Full Frame set up lol. You pixel pitch is no where near medium format. It’s like putting a suv tire on the Honda civic and calling it a Honda Pilot lol. I do have many medium format legendary lenses may try it for fun but Kipon focal reducer ones are pretty expense adapters.
The "look" of medium format is what I want. When you have the compression of a 45mm with the Field Of View of a 31mm or the Compression of a 80mm with the Field Of View of a 56mm it give such an amazing look. Plus you are getting a larger Field Of View using this adapter with a Mamiya lens than the Fugi Medium Format cameras allow. I think this is a relatively inexpensive way for people to get their feet wet with the Medium Format look without breaking the bank.
@@JaredHoyman isn't this the same as simple faster lense?
it’s not. The look is completely different. You are getting the compression of a 45mm with the field of view of a 31mm. I have the 80mm too and you get a 80mm compression with a field of view of a 56mm. People shoot medium format for the look they produce. It’s kinda a larger than life feel in the images. Makes you feel closer to the subject yet gives a wider view.
Medium format has nothing to do with "pixel pitch" or pixels at all. The fact that you used that term here gives me the impression that you don't know what it means. Sensors of the same size in any format will have a different pixel pitch depending on their resolution. Medium format lenses have a larger projected image circle and a different field of view for the same focal length, that's what this video is about.
@@JaredHoyman In what units is your compression measured and how do you calculate it?
Nice! CVP done a great video on this subject. I’m in the APS C realm and I got the 0.71 canon reducer so I have some focal length options with the Canon EF lenses. They do cost a pretty penny for sure
There are great EF versions when adapting to aps-c.
how does it compare against a 35mm f1.8 or f1.4? 🤔
Unfortunately I do not have either of those, but I may have to borrow one for testing.
Very cool! Never knew u could adapt a medium format to full frame.
I was skeptical at first, but I have to say it works pretty well.
Wow 🤩 and ironically I was just researching how to stitch 2 vertical images with a pancake 45mm to get that compression but with a 22.5mm field of view …nice 👌
@@erikguzowski1375 talk about perfect timing. This is a lot easier than stitching.
That's very cool, I do love the idea of unique looks on mirrorless, more than film actually😅😅😅. I've done vintage, fd and other, types of lenses on my R6 II, now I need to explore the medium format route. My wallet and my wife won't be happy about this😂. I will let her know it was your idea😊😊😊
LOL. My wife was wondering why I'm going down this path too. Now I'm sure more wifes will not be happy with me. Good vintage lenses are not cheap.
A medium-format digital camera has a physically larger sensor than a Canon full-frame sensor. Adapting lenses from medium-format cameras to a Canon full-frame sensor is not medium-format!
@@cinnamon--girl I would recommend watching the entire video and understanding how focal reducers work.
hear me out... a digital back adapted to a vintage Film Hasselblad would probably cost the same as that kit. I'm just shooting from the hip, didn't actually run the numbers. or a "muh mee uhh" 645 would probably be cheaper, and they make a digital back for that too i think.
I’m not familiar with digital back but the option of shooting raw video with this lens on my canon r5 II is pretty awesome. I did some 8k video with the Mamiya 45 2.8 and the sharpness and detail is amazing.
@ hey, I am just dipping my toes into all this photography stuff. I picked up a Canon A-1 (35mm) camera about 9 months ago and I’m self teaching the craft. I read a lot and watch a lot of videos. Phase One makes digital backs for a lot of the film medium format cameras that had interchangeable backs, where the 120 film would go. And I covet them, but I am still learning the ropes.
Old technology is O.K but not brilliant!!
It’s fun and could have a use case professionally depending on the project, but definitely worth it on the hobby side. Rokinon and TTartisan have done a good job bring unique looks in a modern fashion as well. I wouldn’t mind comparing them one day.
it would be good to have a waist level finder 😊
With the EOS RF bodies you kinda do. Just flip out the screen and put it at your hip. That’s how I shot some of those photos in the cemetery.
It will never be medium format, it just doesn`t have the looks no matter what you try.