How do you even get close with English writing/pronounciation ”system”? Gottayaervee?😂 I think there’s not even a hard K in the system, either KH or G to start with and vowels very problematic also and pronounciation of the written is always ”it depends”.🤷🏻♂
From my understanding USA doesn't allow ä or ö at all, so they had to change their last names. It is interesting that a lot of the finnish americans have vaguely finnish accents, just a bit. They are butchering the last names tho, just how other americans would pronounce them (aka not trying).
@@ellem8990 Makes me think of how Antti Holma (who lives in the US) has said he tells American people to pronunce his name like "auntie" because that's at least sinnepäin and is easier for them to grasp. And that in like, grocery store coupon apps etc he writes his name as Andy. I can imagine the same has happened on a bigger scale over generations of Finnish immigrants. The pronunciation has been americanized out of convenience, and after a few generations no one knows how the name is pronounced in Finland.
@@a.e.3984 A lot of immigrants do this when they relocate to a different culture. Loads of Asian Americans with kids called Bill or Susan or whatever, and many just choose an english name to use for themselves as well. Same goes for people from cultures closer to England like the Swedes, if an American is called Lindberg he'll 100% pronounce it differently than a Swede or a Finnish Swede would.
@@wernerxThese people are americans first, finnish second. 150 years in America and several generations later doesn't really make you an ethnic finn anymore. It's like comparing a jamaican to a nigerian
also the pronunciation is way way off.... i bet you could get closer to pronouncing it correctly if you were a drunken Indonesian dude asked to pronounce a German word and then you are shown a Russian word written with the Arabic Naskh script....
@@NecrotechianIt’s definitely possible even his grandparents didn’t speak Finnish. My Amerian cousins’ parents didn’t speak them Finnish at all which they are bitter about.
@@Korento probably true but i would imagine people would at least tell their child how to pronounce their own last name.... and for that to repeat to the next generation over and over... not a "hello my name is bob idontknowhowtopronouncemyownname but its written like kotajärvi"
@@maxuli21 They are genetically finns and that is pretty obvious when you Look at them. And genes are the most ingluential and dont change on 200 years at all.
@@maxuli21There are no Finns from 200 years ago in the USA, as immigration law restricted Finns from immigrating well into the 20th century. (Finns were considered Asian)
@@kimanthoni6377 yeah he has Finnish ancestry. I think Pamela Anderson and maybe Dave Mustaine (Megadeth) come to mind as being of partly Finnish ancestry.
Yes I didnt know small communities like these existed in there. Didnt these finns came there in late 1800s, so they speak bit diffrent version of finnish, but maybe finns that go there nowdays can still understand their finnish.
@@Galluxi Moninaisuus on aina hyvästä ja kieli on myös taidetta. Sama asia jos sanoisi, että Beethoven on vitun turha jätkä, koska Mozart ei kuuroutunut.
@@Galluxi Onpa surullinen ajattelutapa sinulla. Mikään kieli ei ole turha, vaan ne kaikki ovat suuri rikkaus. Eri kielillä maailmaa hahmotetaan eri tavalla ja kieli on erittäin merkittävä osa kulttuuria. Englannin paremmuus on täysin subjektiivinen asia, suosittuvuus mitattavissa, mutta ei sekään noin yksinkertaista ole. Indoeurooppalaiset kielet on vähän tylsiä minusta, kun niitä on täällä Euroopassa joka puolella. Silti on erittäin hienoa, että niitä on niin paljon ja erilaisia.
Saying it's Kotajärvi says absolutely nothing about how it's supposed to be pronounced. You may hear it in your head, but people who are accustomed to other languages hear it differently in their heads.
@@JiihaaSUsing the IPA, it’s pronounced: /’ko:t̪ɑ:jær:ʋi/ How the Finnish language is written is very close to the IPA so if you’re familiar with that, it’s pretty easy to know how to pronounce. It’d be very hard to make it clear how to pronounce it any other way. Hope you understand IPA :).
@@CrummyJoker "pronounced as it's written" contains zero actual information if you don't know how a language is pronounced. There are multiple ways of pronouncing each letter depending on the language (and in some languages depending on the word or context), so it's "pronounced as it's written" only for those who already know how it's pronounced.
haha, youtube is suggesting 11 years old video to Finnish people like me :D Would be nice to visit that kind of US city someday and talk about their heritage and Finnish and American traditions and habits and all kind of things.
For the surname Kotajärvi. Kota is especially a hut that has a fire pit inside and the meaning of the surname is closer to "hut lake" or "lake with a hut", it could be a name for a lake.
It’s a weird feeling; hearing, what is, basically, a perfect American accent; but with Finnish cadence and energy-levels; even though I doubt most of those people speak Finnish, well, ever 😅.
Tikkanen. They pronounce it like Tikanen. If they said it with P letter its sounds like pikanen, wich means like doing something fast 😂 Maybe Tikkanen likes to do things fast..?
would be cool to visit one day and talk about finland and finnish culture over there. maybe even teach some finnish words, like "hilavitkutin" or the ever useful "no niin".
That sounds like a pretty standard Finnish accent actually! A little more "authentic" English than what you normally hear in Finland when Finns speak English, but you can definitely hear the Finnish behind that accent :)
Olisi kyllä kiinnostanut tietää että mitä se "ethnic music" oikeasti on, jos siellä lauletaan jotain Mattia ja Teppoa niin tarviin koko ruokapöydän facepalmia varten.
Ollaan kuitenki internetissä nii Ihmiset tykkää valittaa kaikesta turhasta. Kommentoin itsekin tuosta lausumisesta mutta en valittanut niinku muut tekee. Sanoin että jos p kirjaimella sanois ton Tikkasen nii kulostais että Pikanen 😂
@@anttikristian4060 I was in highschool with this kid Matias Kotajärvi and he was from a fundamentalist laestadian family. Had like 15 siblings.. This near Oulu
US culture, whole land of the immigrants thing. European Americans don't have an American heritage so many claim the heritage of the country their ancestors were from.
In what way are they finnish if they dont speak finnish and are culturally american They are just descended from traitors and weak willed people who left their homeland@@Sup3rman1c
I'm a Finn, and here's how you pronounce Kotajärvi: ”KOH”. (rhymes with the ”o” in chorus) ”TAH” (rhymes with the ”a” in park) ”YAER” (rhymes with the ”a” in marinade) ”VIH” (rhymes with the ”y” in happy)
Why all the H letters? None of those are actually pronounced. Although maybe without those, English speakers would pronounce e.g. "ko" and "kou" the same way.
Saakuti kun osaa puhua hyvin englantia, nykypäivinä se olisi pelkkää öötä ja äätä se nuorison ääntäminen kun ei koulu kiinnosta Andrew taten sigmajuttujen takia :D
Now the powers that be are trying to erase finnish culture even in Finland. Great to see finnish people celebrate finnish heritage and culture in USA. Greetings from Finland! Terveisiä Suomesta!
TH-cam:
Nonnii kattopas tästä tämmönen 11 vuotta vanha, käytännössä unohdettu video.
Algoritmin kummallisuuksia. Kuinkakohan suuri osa näistäki vähäisistä näyttökerroista on tullu vasta nyt kun algoritmi on tän hoksannu
@@usefool6477Niinpä
Noh kerrankin jotain mielenkiintoista.
Ja pelkkänä monona 😂
::DD oli hyvä.
I love that Finns around the world remember their roots and they get coverage but the pronunciation of the surnames almost make me cry
Was the pronunciation bad?
@@sebastiansebastian7377 It was very bad :D But that is to be expectected from a native English speaker.
@@sebastiansebastian7377 it was.
@@sebastiansebastian7377 the ä in kotajärvi would be pronounced like the a in cat
"Was the promunciation bad?" it was a disgrace.
Butchering those lastnames but you guys got the spirit
The pronunciations of these last names are so amazing 💀
Yeah, incredibly wrong 😂
How do you even get close with English writing/pronounciation ”system”? Gottayaervee?😂 I think there’s not even a hard K in the system, either KH or G to start with and vowels very problematic also and pronounciation of the written is always ”it depends”.🤷🏻♂
@@antti8299Cottayarvee? 😂
@@antti8299cot-ah-yar-vie with a rolled r
I’ve never understood how people don’t learn to pronounce their own surnames correctly
mä en ole vissiin ainoa, kuka saa tämän videon ehdotuksiin?
jea
et, mielenkiintoista
Hieno video
et :D
*joka/*kuka
interesting how the surnames change both in spelling and pronounciation
From my understanding USA doesn't allow ä or ö at all, so they had to change their last names. It is interesting that a lot of the finnish americans have vaguely finnish accents, just a bit. They are butchering the last names tho, just how other americans would pronounce them (aka not trying).
@@ellem8990 Makes me think of how Antti Holma (who lives in the US) has said he tells American people to pronunce his name like "auntie" because that's at least sinnepäin and is easier for them to grasp. And that in like, grocery store coupon apps etc he writes his name as Andy. I can imagine the same has happened on a bigger scale over generations of Finnish immigrants. The pronunciation has been americanized out of convenience, and after a few generations no one knows how the name is pronounced in Finland.
@@a.e.3984 A lot of immigrants do this when they relocate to a different culture. Loads of Asian Americans with kids called Bill or Susan or whatever, and many just choose an english name to use for themselves as well. Same goes for people from cultures closer to England like the Swedes, if an American is called Lindberg he'll 100% pronounce it differently than a Swede or a Finnish Swede would.
they forgor the ä
@@a.e.3984 eeexactly
and not a single word of Finnish was spoken
Yeah, very much like Finland 🤦♂️. Perinteet hyvin hallussa..?
@@wernerx mä en tiedä mitä sä aasi selität? Ymmärrätkö, että Suomessa asutaan myös kehä kolmosen ulkopuolella? Vitun urpo
@@wernerxThese people are americans first, finnish second. 150 years in America and several generations later doesn't really make you an ethnic finn anymore. It's like comparing a jamaican to a nigerian
@@shueibdahironce a finn allways an finn 😄but yeah can't expect them to speak finnish much
I as a finn just can't help but laugh at how they pronounce their last names. Kotajärvi especially
Kotajärvi doesn't actually mean "hut on a lake", it means "hut lake"
also the pronunciation is way way off.... i bet you could get closer to pronouncing it correctly if you were a drunken Indonesian dude asked to pronounce a German word and then you are shown a Russian word written with the Arabic Naskh script....
@@NecrotechianI didn't mind how news caster pronounce they last names.
@@Icemanfi80 was actually focusing on the kid who should know better as its his name... but yeah the reporter was not THAT bad...
@@NecrotechianIt’s definitely possible even his grandparents didn’t speak Finnish.
My Amerian cousins’ parents didn’t speak them Finnish at all which they are bitter about.
@@Korento probably true but i would imagine people would at least tell their child how to pronounce their own last name.... and for that to repeat to the next generation over and over... not a "hello my name is bob idontknowhowtopronouncemyownname but its written like kotajärvi"
Its weird, William Kotajärvi looks a lot like another Kotajärvi i used to know in Finland lmao.
Mooses Kotajärvi, tukkijulli entinen
My surname is Kotajärvi, maybe I know him
That William Kotajärvi kinda looks like my uncle, maybe we are related
@@kantok6668Try to contact them? Doesn’t seem like a common name. They might be interested.
Matt Huuki looks like the most finnish man you can come across. To hear a finn speak american english so well is a mindfucn
My left ear enjoyed this video
Yeah, I thought my headset was broken for a bit lmao
Suomi mainittu. Calumetissa tavataan!
Nice to see and hear the Tikkanens of the new continent. Hello from Helsinki, Finland.
I thought he was going to say "next year, in place of Heritage Day, the city will put on a satanic ritual"
Well.. I mean... After all, Finland DOES have the highest number of metal bands per capita in the world, so it might still make sense.
These are really finnish looking people :D hilarious
I was thinking the same, maybe because they are Finnish people :D
They are finnish by heritage so no suprise there.
@@omBrezeeNamaha A lot can happen in 200 years, I don't consider any Americans European.
@@maxuli21 They are genetically finns and that is pretty obvious when you Look at them. And genes are the most ingluential and dont change on 200 years at all.
@@maxuli21There are no Finns from 200 years ago in the USA, as immigration law restricted Finns from immigrating well into the 20th century. (Finns were considered Asian)
Proud to be part fin on my mom's side
Totta! Ymmärtääkseni Matt Damon on tiukasti Suomalainen? Isoisä ja isoäiti?
@@kimanthoni6377 yeah he has Finnish ancestry. I think Pamela Anderson and maybe Dave Mustaine (Megadeth) come to mind as being of partly Finnish ancestry.
@@nativeeurope1299 No wonder Dave Mustaine looks just like Mika Häkkinen :D
@@Jansk1hMustaine ex- Mustonen.
If i ever go visit U.S, i know where i'm going ;)
samoin
Same here... ! 🙋🙋
Yes I didnt know small communities like these existed in there. Didnt these finns came there in late 1800s, so they speak bit diffrent version of finnish, but maybe finns that go there nowdays can still understand their finnish.
@@jout738 Oh yeah we do. Its kinda "old" finnish but absolutely understandable
ite en. suomalaisia näkee jos suomessakin
Onhan tämä nyt hienoa että näitä saa nähdä, tosiaan "unohdettuja videoita", edelleen Tuben algoritmin syövereistä.
Kotajärvi would rather mean "hut lake" or "lake of the hut" than "hut in a lake"
Tämä. Huutista jenkille :D :D
Jabba the Hut asuu kodassa
Tuo poika sanoi että "hut on a lake" joka on ihan pätevä käännös.
@@psynque Sanoisin "lake with a hut on it" olis oikeammin sanottu.
@psynque Says the Finnish expert who needs google translate to write a comment
Näköjään se kieli vaan häviää ajan saatossa
@@Galluxi Moninaisuus on aina hyvästä ja kieli on myös taidetta. Sama asia jos sanoisi, että Beethoven on vitun turha jätkä, koska Mozart ei kuuroutunut.
@@Galluxi Onpa surullinen ajattelutapa sinulla. Mikään kieli ei ole turha, vaan ne kaikki ovat suuri rikkaus. Eri kielillä maailmaa hahmotetaan eri tavalla ja kieli on erittäin merkittävä osa kulttuuria. Englannin paremmuus on täysin subjektiivinen asia, suosittuvuus mitattavissa, mutta ei sekään noin yksinkertaista ole. Indoeurooppalaiset kielet on vähän tylsiä minusta, kun niitä on täällä Euroopassa joka puolella. Silti on erittäin hienoa, että niitä on niin paljon ja erilaisia.
Englantihan on monessa suhteessa kielistä typerimpiä, mutta minkäs teet, kun on johtava maailmankieli.@@Sipu97
Videon pikkujätkä syntynyt USA:ssa ja opiskelee suomea. Cool!
@@Galluxi Elä sie höpäjä piättömiä, itte olet turha kieli
It took me a while to get the name was Tikkanen and not an English/American name Tickenen. Or what the hell is William Codacharwe, it's Kotajärvi :D
@@vke6077 That's what he said ffs :D
Saying it's Kotajärvi says absolutely nothing about how it's supposed to be pronounced. You may hear it in your head, but people who are accustomed to other languages hear it differently in their heads.
@@JiihaaS It's pronounced as it's written...
@@JiihaaSUsing the IPA, it’s pronounced: /’ko:t̪ɑ:jær:ʋi/
How the Finnish language is written is very close to the IPA so if you’re familiar with that, it’s pretty easy to know how to pronounce.
It’d be very hard to make it clear how to pronounce it any other way. Hope you understand IPA :).
@@CrummyJoker "pronounced as it's written" contains zero actual information if you don't know how a language is pronounced. There are multiple ways of pronouncing each letter depending on the language (and in some languages depending on the word or context), so it's "pronounced as it's written" only for those who already know how it's pronounced.
Damn, my surname Kotajärvi is quite rare. It feels wonderful to know that there are people in so far away that might be related to me
477 people is quite usual rarity in finland
Watching this from Helsinki. Terveisiä Helsingistä!
Me ollaan sit Viljams :D Naurettiin tolle sukunimen ääntämykselle kovasti.
I'm not a Finn. But i fell for a Finnish guy named Virolainen when I was 17. Now I'm 24 he is still in my heart. I miss him in my heartbeat.
Virolainen literally means "Estonian"
@@zenshy2139 He is from Helsinki and still living in Helsinki
@@ApolloMyLove yes but the name means Estonian
@@zenshy2139 But... He was born in Finland? So he is one of the Finnish men in Finland? As a foreigner this is what I think though...
@@ApolloMyLove yes it is possible to have a name that means something other than your country. He can be Finnish with a name like "Estonian"
TH-cam: Morjensta morjensta, katoppa nopee töissä ollessas tällänen 11 vuotta vanha video missä lausutaan kaikki suomalaiset sukunimet väärin.
Erittäin outoa kattoa kun on tottunut että ihmiset joilla on suomalaiset piirteet olis ahdistuneita ja ujoja.
They all spoke at least 500 more words than the average finnish person would have in a year. But it's nice that they make an effort.
haha, youtube is suggesting 11 years old video to Finnish people like me :D Would be nice to visit that kind of US city someday and talk about their heritage and Finnish and American traditions and habits and all kind of things.
Sound: L🔊 R🔈
For the surname Kotajärvi. Kota is especially a hut that has a fire pit inside and the meaning of the surname is closer to "hut lake" or "lake with a hut", it could be a name for a lake.
Calumet upper Michigan is a great city
It’s a weird feeling; hearing, what is, basically, a perfect American accent; but with Finnish cadence and energy-levels; even though I doubt most of those people speak Finnish, well, ever 😅.
Where is the alcohol?
Nope it's the lake by the hut. If the name was "hut by a lake" like he said it would be Järvenkota
hutlake
If someone has the nickname "Jabbada" and last name Kota what does that name translate to?
@@Dennis-ud2nh höhö
@@ostettv3516 spektrumi
Perkele.
Whats funny is that finns couldn't throw a celebration like that if their lives depended on it.
@@WilBBu yeah, get drunk in the sauna. Not celebrate with the whole community.
@@WilBBu There was no joke. Celebration "like that" was the point. Shitfaced at home, that was the gist of what we both said. You wittingly or not 😉
Your knowledge of finnish culture is below 0 if sauna&booze means "getting shitfaced alone in home" to you.
Tikkanen.
They pronounce it like Tikanen. If they said it with P letter its sounds like pikanen, wich means like doing something fast 😂
Maybe Tikkanen likes to do things fast..?
R.I.P. headphone users
would be cool to visit one day and talk about finland and finnish culture over there. maybe even teach some finnish words, like "hilavitkutin" or the ever useful "no niin".
Yoopers sure have a unique accent.
That sounds like a pretty standard Finnish accent actually! A little more "authentic" English than what you normally hear in Finland when Finns speak English, but you can definitely hear the Finnish behind that accent :)
@@Jayzon666 What? No, these people have American accents, not Finnish ones.
@@Jayzon666 ei kyl ollu yhtään suomalaista aksenttia noilla
@@skinnynestyKyllä on ihan selvästi pieni aksentti. Ei toki yhtä vahva kun jos täysin suomenkielinen puhuisi englantia.
@@vaahtobileetBut that is clearly different than standard American accent :)
I wanna talk with finnish Americans
Olisi kyllä kiinnostanut tietää että mitä se "ethnic music" oikeasti on, jos siellä lauletaan jotain Mattia ja Teppoa niin tarviin koko ruokapöydän facepalmia varten.
Fredrikin titanic ja muut eksoottiset biisit...
Suomalaiset itkee kommenteissa että huonoo lausumista. Mutta mitä väliä sillä on jos eivät ole Suomessa ees syntyneet?
Ollaan kuitenki internetissä nii Ihmiset tykkää valittaa kaikesta turhasta. Kommentoin itsekin tuosta lausumisesta mutta en valittanut niinku muut tekee.
Sanoin että jos p kirjaimella sanois ton Tikkasen nii kulostais että Pikanen 😂
💖👍
Esimerkki hyvästä maahanmuutosta.
Tortillat avataan
1:20 Pookie 😅
I've met Kotajärvis this year, don't know, if they are relatives to this William :) Those, whom I've met, are from Lapland originally.
Yeah, they are from here, and I bet they are all related.
@@anttikristian4060 I was in highschool with this kid Matias Kotajärvi and he was from a fundamentalist laestadian family. Had like 15 siblings.. This near Oulu
1:15 his last name means more like a "lake with a hut".
10/10 sukunimien lausunta
I might be just dumb but why people in USA say they are Finnish as an example and they are not born in Finland.
It is ethnicity.
Ethnically a Finn is still a Finn, no matter if you're in the new world or the old one.
US culture, whole land of the immigrants thing. European Americans don't have an American heritage so many claim the heritage of the country their ancestors were from.
In what way are they finnish if they dont speak finnish and are culturally american
They are just descended from traitors and weak willed people who left their homeland@@Sup3rman1c
Jus Sanguinis
Hyvin kohdennettu video potentiaalisille katsojille. Muutama vuosi siihen menikin :D
'Learning finnish'
Then manages to butcher his own last name
TORILLA TAVATAAAAAAN!!!!
👍🤞🤞🙏👏🙏
🙏🥀🧚💖🧚🥀🙏
Luulin että ameriikan suomalaiset tuli 40luvulla takaisin puolustaa suomea ?😅
Ei kaikki ja sen lisäks monet muuttivat takaisin jenkkeihin sotien jälkeen.
true diversity
My right ear is thankful for some time off.
I like how they pronounce their finnish surnames in american English
I pronunce my finnish-swedish last name like a swede although my parens are both finnish and dont speak any swedish
Allala
I'm a Finn, and here's how you pronounce Kotajärvi:
”KOH”. (rhymes with the ”o” in chorus)
”TAH” (rhymes with the ”a” in park)
”YAER” (rhymes with the ”a” in marinade)
”VIH” (rhymes with the ”y” in happy)
Why all the H letters? None of those are actually pronounced. Although maybe without those, English speakers would pronounce e.g. "ko" and "kou" the same way.
Cotacharvy 💙🤍
youtube läväytti ihan tyhjästä etusivulle
Dej reminisensed abhoit harritach deis 🇫🇮✌🏻
"American drinkfestival days" 🍻🍹🍸🍷
Hello youtube, let's make everyone care about finland through a random video. I'm on board.
Leppävaara Le Leppävaara
miks vitussa youtube heittää tämmöse etusivulle
Ei helvetti mikä ehdotettu video TH-camlta
Aika mielenkiintoista eikö
Everyone getting this recomended now
Miks hää vai sillai?
TH-cam algoritmi tapaamme jälleen :D
Eiköhän mennä torillle kaikki?
Finland prkele. Vtun hlvetti. Mannerheim.
Miät vittua nyt youtube.
Kännissä ku käki, taas
Khoutazarwii
Saakuti kun osaa puhua hyvin englantia, nykypäivinä se olisi pelkkää öötä ja äätä se nuorison ääntäminen kun ei koulu kiinnosta Andrew taten sigmajuttujen takia :D
vissii vähä myöhäs yt suosittelee...
torilla tavataan
Coat-a-jarvi
ai vittu mun vasen korva
Tikkanen translates directly "with woodpecker" or "people of woodpecker".. Finnish names are weird..
little woodpecker
Calling "iskelmä" ethnic music is so cursed.
No, it's actually pretty accurate.
Kotijärvi ”koutadžarvi”
Miks tätä ehdotetaan mulle nyt? 😂
It's hutlake. Not hut on a lake
cosplayers
oon kissa btw
Now the powers that be are trying to erase finnish culture even in Finland. Great to see finnish people celebrate finnish heritage and culture in USA. Greetings from Finland! Terveisiä Suomesta!
Vittu! Mut myös... Torille!!
Kotajärvi 🙂🙏🧚💖🧚🙏
Torilla tavataan
Suomi mainittu.
Hyvä Suomi! Perkele!
Vasen korva😀😀
11 years ago looks a lot better than today. People looked a lot happier.