Dr. Howard Wesley is one of America's premier preachers; without doubt, IMHO. He is the product of a south-side of Chicago, Baptist Church with exceptional intellectual drive coupled to a serious spiritually. His matriculation @ Duke; his Graduate work @ Boston University, the same school where Rev.Dr. King earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology; his exposure to Wiesel and now his working on his Ph.D., he has his "burning" and his "learning". We are so very blessed to have such a clarion witness. Whenever I'm in the DMV, I worship @ Alfred Street and am blessed in my sanctified soul for going. Pastor, be well. SHALOM
John the BAPTIST didn’t study at Duke. He was not a member of the Boule. He didn’t quote philosophers and idolaters. He didn’t repeat what a professor told him the Word of God said. John The Baptist was a wild man from the wilderness. He was not considered a learned or sophisticated man in any way and yet JESUS declared that John the BAPTIST was the greatest preacher to ever proclaim the gospel because he simply pointed people in the direction of the LAMB OF GOD WHO CAME TO TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD ( not justify or overlook or not address their sins ). John told people to REPENT for the Kingdom of God was at hand. Then he told them to be baptized signifying that they would DIE to THEMSELVES in order to reign with Christ. I mean really. Academia isn’t what God is looking for. He’s calling those who will BOLDLY proclaim His Holy Word and call people to repent and die to their old man in order to be raised in the Last Day. By the way John was beheaded for speaking out against SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AND LASCIVIOUSNESS. Unlike this man above, John and the true Apostles were NOT AFRAID to boldly speak exactly what God mandated even if it cost them their freedom and ultimately their lives. The 12 Elders are the best examples of what it cost to be true disciples. It ain’t glamorous or fancy. It’s all out warfare! The KINGDOM suffers violence. So this “ can’t we all just get along “ 💩 is not cutting it in the eyes of God. Imagine Jesus’ best friend Peter being crucified UPSIDE DOWN ( because he didn’t deem himself worthy to die the same death as his Savior ) but these fluff intellectuals are scared to offend a few ppl at the risk of less tithes or membership numbers. Jesus only needed 12 to revolutionize the world and yet these jokers here got thousands of members and can’t take one block in their city! Souls hang in the balance. It would be better for him to just go be a professor himself than to claim to stand in the stead of a Holy God never addressing what God has mandated...
Wesley is a false teacher who push liberal ideologies such as man with man, woman with woman instead of God's institution of Marriage(man/woman), two genders: male, female. I would never attend his church. This man place liberal ideologies over the Word of God.
@@wonderfilled6048This is 2023! The Word is still the Word! However, humanity has changed, times have changed and we need to minister to all. The Bible tells us do justice, love mercy and walk humbly with our God. Hate the Sin, but love the sinner. He wants all to be saved and inherit the Kingdom. Love one another and be kind to all. Sadly, some can't see passed their own "exclusivity" of being in the Christian walk...
May God bless you with the understanding of the word of God that you / I may not be deceived God help you sir for distorting the word of God I am sorry for the people that are lead a stray by your misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the truth of God
I watch a lot of his sermons. This one was so powerful and revealing in the hearts of many people/Christians. I will never understand the obsession Christian have with others folks sin when they can’t get their stuff right. A mustard seed of focus on You and your sin would make the world a much better place. I love that he points to the human capacity to laser focus on what fits one’s beliefs glossing over the other sins that would have you as well in internal fire. Amen to preaching to the amazing Glory-filled messages in the Bible
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If you listened to this sermon and your only focus is on what he did/did not say about homosexuality then I’m afraid you’ve missed the entire point of the lesson.
Nah, I think we got the "point." Dont agree with what he's trying to interject/imply/or lesson about that scripture concerning that section of Bible. Then (22.57), he brings up A verse in Ezekiel and just like a pastor who trys to re-write the scripture to fit either their personal belief or need/want ($$$$$). He "GETS LOUNDER!!!!!". Sir, just stop. We ALL FALL SHORT. According to SCRIPTURE, because we all can read and comprehend English, he was displeased with ALL HE NAMED, please dont try and lesson the sins by the order he named them in. He could've saved obomination until last to emphasize/ its importance. If you gonna tell it, tell it, like it reads. This doesn't mean to overly condemn a homosexual life style BUUUUT as far as SCRIPTURE says it was an abomination. It doesn't even say, "the act of homosexuality is a sin, but lets not forget the more important things. Oooooooh wait, what subject does the Bible say that about ooooooh(????) Thats RIGHT TITHES!!!!
The question is. How do u treat the homosexual. Jesus never looked at the crowd who judged the woman of adultery. He with out sin cast the first stone. Oh and Jesus told her Go and Sin no more. Compassionate retribution.. Do u have that Lo e?
Preach preach preach! I appreciate a man/woman of God who is aware of current social injustices and is willing to speak and bring solutions to the pulpit. Whether we all realize it or not, social justice is all in the Bible and we must speak about it.
Social justice is personal responsibility, personal choices, and obeying the Word of God. We should be dependent on God, not the government and its benefits. Thats the problem.
He read verse 50 but, did he really read it. Four key words haughty, committed abomination, therefore. Ezekiel 16:50 And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit.
And as Rev. Dr. Wesley said, "We could debate all day about what abomination is..." Ppl automatically attribute the word abomination to homosexuality. God is bigger then the connotation and denotation of words for God is the word and yet at the same time he is a mystery. If we think we have God figured out we're fooling ourselves.
@@shebeendope2322 correct there id a whole list of abominations in proverbs and not 1 is sexual. In addition the abomination could have been same sexual but in lustful ways...not a committed relationship.
@@shebeendope2322no Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. Gid us to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear: Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
@@rev.sheathompsonit is clear that God tells New Testament believers, the church, why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah : Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
There were more than three Indictments in the Ezekiel 16 text, sir. You are ignoring the ones that are stated in verse 50, which starts with the word AND.
It is time we recognize that the Pastor can’t save us, only Almighty God can. So we can shout preach from the rooftop all we want but that will not change the standard God had set for the church. Have a relationship with God himself or you will be lead astray
Wow! I fully understand and have asked the question often .... How can folks who proclaim to be Christians attempt to defend their Christianity while operating and conducting themselves in deviant ways! Not giving any thought to the character and integrity of Christ. Not considering the compassion of Christ. Not fostering peace and goodwill for ALL. Not attempting to help your fellowman. Not actively caring about the poor and the needy in making food, healthcare and shelter affordable for ALL. Am I not my brother's keeper? To understand the message as delivered by Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley, you MUST allow the Holy Spirit to dwell, rule, reign (ABIDE)! Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley has not omitted, eliminated or dismissed any of the BIBLE. There are layers of importance and Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley has and is considering it ALL.
It's amazing how many people are agreeing with this SMH!! This shows that we are surely under the judgement of God. The Scriptures are clear on the sins of Sodom smh.
This pastor uses manipulation of the scriptures to try and affirm homosexuality. It is clear in scripture that that Gid condemns the act of homosexuality to the highest degree!Gid leaves no wiggle room in both the old and new testament. It’s an abomination people. Jude tells the church why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Read Jude! Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Don't think we have a right to give that disclaimer. We don't own the church and we must give the whole council of God's Word. Please finish the text. We are never to condemn, we are always to tell the whole truth, even if it makes us uncomfortable.
I can't imagine God destroying S & G and preventing a single blade of grass from ever growing in Sodom and Gomorah simply because of pride, gluttony, carelessness, complacency, and failure to help the poor and needy. Yechezk'el (Ezk) 16:49 CJB. If this is the case we are all in imminent danger of being destroyed
I attend the church in Philadelphia call Enon Tabernacle Baptist Church Dr. Alyn E. Waller. I am so honored to watch your services online. You keep it real and don't sugarcoat things and that's the way it needs to be in this day and age. May the Lord continue to bless you and use you.
Hey everybody take the time to read the full chapters he references.There are plenty of scriptures on homosexuality. And he is not bringing them into this monologue. People are addressing his comments on homosexuality because they are wrong. Part truth and part error equals deception. That’s exactly what Satan did to Eve in the garden and what he tried with Jesus in the wilderness.
God knew that one would use the passage out of Ezekiel to try and minimize the vileness of the act of homosexuality. Everyplace you see the act of homosexuality in scripture it is condemn by God to the fullest. There is no where in scripture that God gives even the slightest hint that so called same gender loving relationships are ok’d by God. How a believer could confuse this as live when God calls it a vile affection is perplexing. God tells the church why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Pastor Wesley in all his so called passion, failed to mention the book of Jude! Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. There it is, why should there be any further discussion in why God destroyed these wicked Cities! Trying to affirm something God condemns is blasphemous!
Hallelujah Pastor Wesley; Until testimonials TRUTHFULLY address violence committed against children and women but dwells ONLY on homosexuality, Well...... God told me that he made us all in HIS image. We have people who can barely live up to the 10 Commandments and Golden Rule, yet are quick to hold onto a scripture to condemn others😢🙃
God condemns homosexuality. As believers we agree to the truth of scripture. God leaves no stone unturned when it comes to the vile act of homosexuality. Why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? I think it’s clear why! Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
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So, Ms. OPRAH read the book. She has a BOOK CLUB! SHE'S one of the "silent ones" ONES, ever since #45 has been in office. Not one PEEP out of her. I hit that share button so long, my arthritis flared up. Preach Pastor.
At 10:34, John Wesley says, God's deepest displeasure is just how we treat strangers, but disobedience to Him. Number one commandment, Deuteronomy 6:5..And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. When it comes to strangers, God don't want his people to follow their religions and gods: Deuteronomy 6:14, Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you. New Testament, Jesus said the first commandment of the New Testament in Mark 12:30:" And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment." The world and lgbt people like to omit the first commandment Love the Lord thy God, but mention the second commandment, Love thy neighbor....as the only commandment, this is wrong.
He didn't say that Christians couldn't speak up against homosexuality, but he wants us to stay think about and speak about the other things that God calls us to speak up on. Also you'd need to know that Rev. Dr. Howard John Wesley is an inclusivist you'd better understand the word that he was given to bring forth unto us. God cannot be boxed in and we have no authority to put anyone in heaven nor hell so we should also be careful of what we choose to speak up on and how we speak on it. Be encouraged in the Lord.
@@shebeendope2322 No, Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear: Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
This is terrible in so many ways. Here are just a few false statements: 1. Sermon will challenge people in way that is uncomfortable - All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 CSB 2. If you got God all figure out and dont have room for challenge or change you wont like this worship service - Is he implying that God has given him a private interpretation of scripture? Above all, you know this: No prophecy of Scripture comes from the prophet’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the will of man; instead, men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. 2 Peter 1:20-21 CSB 3. Sodom’s sin was not only selfishness, but also homosexuality. This is evident from several facts. First of all, the context of Genesis 19 reveals that their perversion was sexual (see comments on Gen. 19:8). Second, the sin of selfishness related by Ezekiel (16:49) does not exclude the sin of homosexuality. As a matter of fact, sexual sins are a form of selfishness, since they are the satisfaction of fleshly passions. Third, by calling their sin an “abomination,” the very next verse (v. 50, nkjv) indicates that it was sexual. This is the same word used to describe homosexual sins in Leviticus 18:22. Jude 1:7 CSB Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns committed sexual immorality and perversions, and serve as an example by undergoing the punishment of eternal fire. 4. Using the example of the Holocaust and the plight of homosexuality is about the dumbest comparison Ive ever heard. He does this after telling you he has a masters degree. So, he has knowledge but no wisdom. Homosexuals are trying to change the word of God to fit their lifestyle. How in the world can this be used as a comparable to what Jews (Gods chosen people) experience in the Holocaust. Second of all, those who commit homosexual sin is an abomination to God and therefore they must repent. Jews didnt have to repent from being Jews, Nazi Germany sought to do the same thing the evil Haman attempted to do. 5. Any person who indulges in any type of sin - ongoing, is not of God. 1 John 3:6-8 CSB, Everyone who remains in him does not sin; everyone who sins has not seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. The one who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God was revealed for this purpose: to destroy the devil’s works. 6. God issue with Israel was about how they deals with them. Really? This guy cant be serious. Then turns around and contradicts himself by saying they were stiffnecked. Which is it? This is what ths bible says. Psalms 78:9-37 CSB The Ephraimite archers turned back on the day of battle. They did not keep God’s covenant and refused to live by his law. They forgot what he had done, the wondrous works he had shown them. He worked wonders in the sight of their ancestors in the land of Egypt, the territory of Zoan. He split the sea and brought them across; the water stood firm like a wall. He led them with a cloud by day and with a fiery light throughout the night. He split rocks in the wilderness and gave them drink as abundant as the depths. He brought streams out of the stone and made water flow down like rivers. But they continued to sin against him, rebelling in the desert against the Most High. They deliberately tested God, demanding the food they craved. They spoke against God, saying, “Is God able to provide food in the wilderness? Look! He struck the rock and water gushed out; torrents overflowed. But can he also provide bread or furnish meat for his people?” Therefore, the Lord heard and became furious; then fire broke out against Jacob, and anger flared up against Israel because they did not believe God or rely on his salvation. He gave a command to the clouds above and opened the doors of heaven. He rained manna for them to eat; he gave them grain from heaven. People ate the bread of angels. He sent them an abundant supply of food. He made the east wind blow in the skies and drove the south wind by his might. He rained meat on them like dust, and winged birds like the sand of the seas. He made them fall in the camp, all around the tents. The people ate and were completely satisfied, for he gave them what they craved. Before they had turned from what they craved, while the food was still in their mouths, God’s anger flared up against them, and he killed some of their best men. He struck down Israel’s fit young men. Despite all this, they kept sinning and did not believe his wondrous works. He made their days end in futility, their years in sudden disaster. When he killed some of them, the rest began to seek him; they repented and searched for God. They remembered that God was their rock, the Most High God, their Redeemer. But they deceived him with their mouths, they lied to him with their tongues, their hearts were insincere toward him, and they were unfaithful to his covenant. I cant listen to this sermon anymore. Technically, the sermon fell apart after ths first lie he told in ths beginning.
At 18:55, Wesley says " Sodom and Gommorah is not about same gender love(homosexuality), but Wesley avoid preaching these verses on the Biblical views on gender and sexual relationship between man and woman in marriage. Gen.5:2 Male and female created he them. Jesus said in Mark 10:6,7, :" But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; " God's will and commandment is two genders male and female, and sexual relationship for man and woman in marriage only, not man with man, woman with woman (see Roman 1:27).
Yes it also has to do with men loving men and women loving woman. Read both scriptures for yourself. U can twist the word as much as you want to bring the worldly agenda but Gods word stand sure.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GODSTIME MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION.) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on (+2347018757903) tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirite faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you!.
It may not have been His first issue, but it was an issue. It's not about going to hell. They're 4 issues. You don't have the right to dismiss verse 50. We have to stop beating up God's people for believing the whole Word of God. We don't have the right to do that.
AMEN! We don’t promote or overlook anything that doesn’t please The Most High. This is really a wake up call to the saints. The devil is testing the waters. He knows he can’t fool the very elect but he’s trying to gauge how many of us will EARNESTLY CONTEND FOR THE FAITH THAT WAS ONCE DELIVERED! He’s trying to back the Kingdom of God down subtly ( as usual ). We should be bold as the apostles were. The IMMUTABLE WORD OF OUR TRUE AND LIVING GOD SHALL STAND FOREVER!
Dont agree with what he's trying to interject/imply/or lesson about that scripture concerning that section of the Bible. Then (22.57), he brings up A verse in Ezekiel and just like a pastor who trys to re-write the scripture to fit either their personal belief or need/want ($$$$$). He "GETS LOUNDER!!!!!". Sir, just stop. We ALL FALL SHORT. According to SCRIPTURE, because we all can read and comprehend English, He was displeased with ALL HE NAMED, please dont try and lesson the sins by the order he named them in. He could've saved obomination until last to emphasize/ its importance. If you gonna tell it, tell it, like it reads. This doesn't mean overly condemning a homosexual life style BUUUUT as far as SCRIPTURE says it was an abomination. It doesn't even say, "The act of homosexuality is a sin, but let's not forget the more important things". Oooooooh wait, what subject does the Bible say that about ooooooh(????) Thats RIGHT TITHES!!!!
I think Pastor Wesley, has miss interpret Gensis 19. regarding lot and the members of his church need to study their Bible for themselves, i think he is going too far trying to justify the life style of gay. they are many bible verses specifically speak openly against sexual sins of the men, not focusing on the voilence of it only. Dr. Wesley needs to be very carefully he dont lead his members down a sinful road to believe that gay or lesbian life style is ok with God, that so wrong. You cannot be a practice gay or lesbian and go to heaven. Neither can you be a practice Rapist or a Murder and go to Heaven. I realize in previous Sermons he is trying to justified Homosexuality.
Thank you, my thoughts also. He started out good, but lost me when he miss interpret Genesis 19. He took away what God said about Sodomites throughout the whole bible.
I appreciate the sermon on the sins of Sodom. I believe there is still room to speak of God’s displeasure with sexual immorality as stated in the books of Jude and 2 Peter, regarding Sodom. It is dangerous to affirm, even indirectly, a lifestyle that God in God’s revealed word (the Bible) has not affirmed. I love this preacher, but think it’s irresponsible to not address the entire teaching on the subject of homosexuality. None of us has the authority to condemn anyone to hell, but we have been given authority to teach and preach truth found in the Bible. God have mercy on us all.
Yes my sister i share the same sentiments and i wouldnt be Surprise to know that his Church as alot gay and lesbians their. this is the reason why he dont wants to speak out against the life style.
He said that you don't have to think what he thinks, just make sure you're thinking. I applaud my pastor for his historical study of biblical literature. He actually study and prepare his messages. I appreciate that!
Cool... there are hundreds, if not thousands of interpretations of scripture out there. I'm sure your interpretation is the golden answer. Everyone else who interprets differently is wrong. You have the keys to heaven. Congrats!
In describing the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah, Dr. Wesley should consult all of God’s word, and not be so quick to dismiss the significance of sexual sins in God’s decision to destroy these cities. Consider the following: 2 Peter 2:6-8 “...if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard)...” Jude 7 “...just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.” The fact of the matter is not all that people today call “love” is actually love. Some “love” is nothing more than sensual lust and sin. And there is no debate in Scripture: same-sex sexual acts are an “abomination” (see Leviticus 18:22; 20:13). Of course, homosexuality is not the only abomination, and sexual sins are not the only sins. But this gives us no excuse to gloss over the clear fact that homosexual behavior is roundly condemned everywhere it is mentioned in Scripture.
Deborah Musau I listened to the entire sermon. I don’t care how Dr. Wesley introduced his sermon. This is not about what I (or anyone else) may or may not like. GOD has spoken, and GOD has spoken clearly. And what GOD has said is right, and everything which disagrees with what GOD has said is wrong. Period. The issue is that, in making some relevant points about our political leaders, Dr. Wesley also undermines the authority of God’s revealed and written Word as it concerns sexual ethics. He is actively confirming men and women in their sin (their sin of homosexuality), and cleverly and slyly suggesting that that which God has declared wrong (homosexuality) is actually right (or at least morally neutral). THAT is wrong. And it is dangerous. God has pronounced woe against anyone who would dare do such a thing, leading others astray (see e.g., Isaiah 5:20). In other words, this is about God, and about the authority of God’s revealed and written Word (i.e., Scripture, the Bible).
Ezekiel 16:49-50 KJV [49] Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. [50] And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good …
God knew that people would use the passage in Ezekiel to try and minimize the vileness of Sodom and homosexuality. So being an all wise God he put the reason for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in the N.T. Howard Wesley never mention these scriptures because in a slick round about way, he is trying his best to affirm so called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm something God has condemned is blasphemous. But below is the reason for the cities destruction. Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
If this scripture was about sexual violence, would Lot had offered his daughters to take the place of the "men" that the "men" outside were looking to "love"?
Jessyca Mosby my Sister I am glad u are reading your Bible. However Pastor Wesley is leading his members down a wrong pathway and I have lost all my respect for him. His Position is very false regarding Sodom and the Obamination.
Yes.. why not? How old were his daughters?? I mean hell, if a couple of men want to "RAPE" another Male that is your guest why would anyone think the answer is to give him your daughters? Who does that? Rape is Violence!
URANUS RAPSTAR BassGameProductionz there you go! Thank you!!! Lot was saying raping the women would BE BETTER THAN LAYING WITH YOUR OWN SEX. One a sin the other an ABOMINATION. They’re not trying to hear you though.
A born again Christian have to pray a lot, listen to your Pastor's teachings, and ask God, if this Pastor's teachings is in line with the Word of God, If a Pastor's teachings is not in line with God's Word then leave that church become they maybe a False teacher. Look up Duke University lgbt theology college on TH-cam, this is one example about theology colleges that don't follow God's Word. A minister with a degree or degrees in theology does not mean they have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Be on guard.
This sermon is a disaster. I think the root of his issue is he will not perform proper biblical exegesis of the text. If he would have just stood in front of the congregation and just read verse by verse Gen. 19, the congregation would have have heard the truth of God’s word, prayerfully repented for their sins, and and committed themselves to stop their “abominable” acts before God and men.
We all would do well to read for ourselves what Bible says.. 1 Corinthians 6 says about homosexuality.. And in revelation 21 what it says about it.. Sexual immorality is wrong point blank period..
I appreciate Pastor John Howard Wesley sermonic presentations, however on this issue God is clear. Morality is still a part of God’s standard. It is unfortunate many believers are not biblically sound enough to know when a preacher deviates from the word. The spiritual condition of a person is impacted by sexual sin and the failure to love our brothers. God is a loving God but his love is HOLY. We are Holy because of GODS presence. When God withdrew his presence from his people this was a serious matter. The problem I have with this sermon is that sin has always had eternal ramifications in our lives. If Dr. Wesley is wrong about his evolution in his theology, sadly many will follow and be lost. PRAY ABOUT THIS ONE.
You miss the point as so many believers do. Morality is composed of what you can see and what you cannot see. Pastor Wesley is speaking about how God sees and addressing why the children of God are captive. It is also what Jesus speaks about when the disciples speaks of the grandeur of the temple and Jesus speaks of the destruction that would come in 70AD. God always let you see whats coming in advance of the season which no man knows.
Actually I see this as amplifying more aspects of morality. We tend to gloss over things like idolatry and not caring for the poor and the 'other'. Not doing those things are just as serious sins as engaging in same gender sex but rarely are they discussed in church today.
You discerned this correctly. People do not get the difference between God chastising His own out of love and Him condemning those that He turned over to their own reprobate ways of thinking and thus their living. Those He turns over to themselves He will destroy but he chastens those who are His because HIS SHEEP WILL HEAR HIS VOICE ABD A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW. Sheep may falter but they will ultimately turn back to Him because they came from Him. The GOATS will be consumed in the fire. Folks are tripping on the rainbow 🌈 not understanding the rainbow won’t stop the FIRE next time... Be blessed and continue to contend for the faith.
@@wonderfilled6048 Condemnation is not of God so I feel that I have to disagree with your view, however, I love you with the love of Jesus Christ. Be blessed!
shebeendopesince_1980 Condemnation is absolutely of God. God is love, and God does all things for his glory (1 John 4:8; Romans 11:36). He loves his glory above all (and that is a good thing!). Therefore, God rules the world in such a way that brings himself maximum glory. This means that God must act justly and judge sin (i.e. respond with wrath), otherwise God would not be God. God’s love for his glory motivates his wrath against sin. Admittedly, God’s love for his own glory is a most sobering reality for many and not good news for sinners. It is after all, “a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God” (Hebrews 10:31).
I hate it when people use “God love us all” as an excuse for their abominations! Ofcoz he loves u but u need to obey him. Otherwise Even the Israelites (God’s chosen nation) were punished and killed for their abomination, Adam and Eve were cursed forever for their disobedience! Who are those you call “God’s children” that can’t be condemned for their evil acts? No wonder many people will b left behind including these fake pastors, we’re not God’s children by flesh or blood but by receiving and believing him John 1:22-13
Sodom and Gomorrah what is destroyed because of everything the pastor said including same, gender, relations, for we know if we read scripture, same gender relations is mentioned throughout the word of God more than three times as well that include the New Testament however, no sin/ Act is greater than the other. Let’s be clear men and women of God are supposed to stand on the truth, the word of God, at all cost, no matter how it’s twisted we have to live God’s way his way not ours
At the onset of his message, he stated that some folks will "be out". I support my pastor as he continuously study biblical history and theology. I respect him highly.
While I appreciate the effort by Dr. Wesley, and the analogies to the president.; however he deliberately ignored the scripture in regard to morality. This is why we are guilty of not telling the whole truth. Praying!!
The point is when condemning pridefulness or the lack of caring for the poor and needy how many people refer to these cities being destroyed?? However 9/10 refer to it when condemning the abomination. Either way the cities were destroyed. Prideful folks..right along with abominators n self righteous.
I truly believe that Pastor Wesley was saying to his listeners is to always look at your life before judging others. this is where we forget about who we were
Church is for God's people, not for unbelievers. We are not to keep company with a brother who is a fornicator or an idolater, yet we invite the world into our fellowship with open arms. Even the Jews under Moses law, separated themselves from gentiles, not keeping company with heathens. But we see today what the policies of men have wrought in the Church, while driven by covetousness, which they hope to fulfill by increasing church attendance through carnal inventions. For God has said, Come out from among them and be separate, not invite them to church in hopes that might hear and be saved. God said, Go into all the world and preach the Gospel. It is one thing for the boat to be in the water, it is another thing for the water to be in the boat. What fellowship hath light with darkness?
We must understand Multiple Definitions - #1. - Define Theology: the study of God and of religious doctrines and matters of divinity - #2. - Define Divine: (A) - to guess - (B) - to find out by intuition - #3. - Define Divinity: Theology - #4. - Define Intuition: the immediate knowing of somthing without the conscious use of reasoning - #5. - [ Remember this is a Church, President Barack Obama goes to, around "Easter" ] - (Easter is a Pagan custom and Obama is from the seed of Noah's son Ham = Genesis 10:19, ... as thou goest, unto Sod'om, and Go-mor'rah, ...) - Genesis 19:5, ... ? bring them out unto us,that we may know them. ->> Genesis 4:1, And Ad'am knew Eve his wife; ... ->> Isaiah 3:9, The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sins as Sod'om, they hide it not. ... ->> Jude 7, ... and going after strange flesh, ... - 2nd. Peter 2:6,7,8, - Define True: comforming to standards, etc. ; correct - Define Truism: a statement the truth which is obvious ->> Preachers not tell the Whole truth - Reinforcing Women's groups for political gain and to Keep the house hold Split! - [ Homosexuality and Black Queens of Heaven( Jeremiah --44:15--,16,17,18,19-25, = Beyonce/Asherah/Diana/Daughters of Jupiter etc. - always ride in the same a Car ] - Talking about Homosexuals/Gays/Lesbians/ etc. - Offends people, Who Have that Canaanite Pagan Spirit - The Lying Spirit is Remolding/Converting the Church's to their image 😖 - Obama past the Gay Law -- I Wonder Why??? -
Hermeneutics & Exegetical ✍🏾 I instantly looked these words up! Wow 💡 I agree, this sermon is extraordinary 🙏🏾 Thank you for enlightening this “word of the day” lover 🤎
No he did not! no Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear: Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
@@LearningToLove.. No he did not! Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear: Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
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No he did not! no Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear: Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
@@rev.sheathompsonno, it’s clear that they did. Paul speaks to Timothy about how people will have itching ears and would desire to listen to doctrine that is in support of their own lusts rather than oppose it. sadly, this is a clear example of such.
The Eziekel 16:49-50 context of Sodom and Gomorrah is attenuated from the Genesis account, which condemns homosexuality, by the Leviticus law and physiological logic. Eziekel's account focused on the overarching cause. Homosexuality was there effect. Cause and effect will always define integrity of purpose. Yes, LGBTQIA also need to be appropriately loved and redeemed; but until they abandon their reprehensible culture, they should never be granted membership among believers because both New and Old Testament condemn it. In fact, Roman's 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, 1 Timothy 1:10, among other scriptures, clearly states that they cannot be a part of God's kingdom, while they remain unrepentant. Wesley is clearly within the ranks of an ostensibly eloquent false prophet, by whom the victims of naivety are enamoured to their own eternal destruction because the blind leads the blind.....
The bible says Satan has ministers of light as well. All these so called "pastors" with all these titles such as "Dr, etc" aren't all called by God. We're supposed to hate what God hate and love what God loves. People need to start reading the Bible for themselves instead of just listening to what these wolves in sheep clothing pastors are preaching. It's time to wake up people, Christ is coming back son, and don't allow pastors such as John Wesley to deceive you. Homosexuality is an abomination, there's no way around what God says. Anyone who disagrees with SCRIPTURE is either themselves in the sin on homosexuality and/or supports homosexuality. 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 King James Version 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the minister
Please, less politics more Bible. I do understand the our current president loves to boast but it almost seems like in the message (and at least another one I have listened to) you are trying to get the listeners to hate the current goverment as much as you do. Maybe hate is a big word, perhaps dislike is a better term. I appreciate you defending the women but there is also a great opportunity to speak on homosexuality that is also present in this passage. Unless you are for and not against it.
HELLO! Any real Christians out there? WHY DIDNT HE PREACH OUT OF ROMANS 1?? It’s crazy! Dude is not a real man of God and is just trying to please man instead of preaching the whole council of God.
No, Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear: Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
So the 3 sins of Sodom was having money, not sharing money, and being quiet while having money😂😂. Yea you waaaaaayyyy off from the Text. So the Bible only condemns violent homosexuality? You a wolf I feel bad for your flock
“Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, (1) pride, (2) fullness of bread, (3) and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and the needy.” Ezekiel 16: 49
@@ninatravis7791 Jude 7 (ESV): 7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
@@oakwoodsams2751 I read from the King James version, "giving over to fornication and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." I hate the newer versions; language gets lost in translation and editors put THEIR spin on the text. As far as we know, strange flesh could mean animals.
@@ninatravis7791 Jude 7 (KJV): 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. It doesn’t get any better with the king James but if that verse didn’t suffice here is 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾 Leviticus 20:13 (KJV): 13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Just in case you need it in the New Testament Romans 1:26-27 (KJV): 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it. 51 Samaria has not committed half your sins. You have committed more abominations than they, and have made your sisters appear righteous by all the abominations that you have committed. (Ezekiel 16:49-51, ESV)
This is a man that understands how to read scripture. Context. Anyone that dislikes this sermon is a bigoted fool who will catch them flames. Need to worry about their own walk & how they treat people. It’s not your place to judge. It’s your place to love. Point blank, period. Keep preaching the truth brother. 🫶🏼
No, Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear: Jude 1:7-8 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Dr. Howard Wesley is one of America's premier preachers; without doubt, IMHO. He is the product of a south-side of Chicago, Baptist Church with exceptional intellectual drive coupled to a serious spiritually. His matriculation @ Duke; his Graduate work @ Boston University, the same school where Rev.Dr. King earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology; his exposure to Wiesel and now his working on his Ph.D., he has his "burning" and his "learning". We are so very blessed to have such a clarion witness. Whenever I'm in the DMV, I worship @ Alfred Street and am blessed in my sanctified soul for going. Pastor, be well. SHALOM
John the BAPTIST didn’t study at Duke. He was not a member of the Boule. He didn’t quote philosophers and idolaters. He didn’t repeat what a professor told him the Word of God said. John The Baptist was a wild man from the wilderness. He was not considered a learned or sophisticated man in any way and yet JESUS declared that John the BAPTIST was the greatest preacher to ever proclaim the gospel because he simply pointed people in the direction of the LAMB OF GOD WHO CAME TO TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD ( not justify or overlook or not address their sins ). John told people to REPENT for the Kingdom of God was at hand. Then he told them to be baptized signifying that they would DIE to THEMSELVES in order to reign with Christ. I mean really. Academia isn’t what God is looking for. He’s calling those who will BOLDLY proclaim His Holy Word and call people to repent and die to their old man in order to be raised in the Last Day. By the way John was beheaded for speaking out against SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AND LASCIVIOUSNESS. Unlike this man above, John and the true Apostles were NOT AFRAID to boldly speak exactly what God mandated even if it cost them their freedom and ultimately their lives. The 12 Elders are the best examples of what it cost to be true disciples. It ain’t glamorous or fancy. It’s all out warfare! The KINGDOM suffers violence. So this “ can’t we all just get along “ 💩 is not cutting it in the eyes of God. Imagine Jesus’ best friend Peter being crucified UPSIDE DOWN ( because he didn’t deem himself worthy to die the same death as his Savior ) but these fluff intellectuals are scared to offend a few ppl at the risk of less tithes or membership numbers. Jesus only needed 12 to revolutionize the world and yet these jokers here got thousands of members and can’t take one block in their city! Souls hang in the balance. It would be better for him to just go be a professor himself than to claim to stand in the stead of a Holy God never addressing what God has mandated...
Wesley is a false teacher who push liberal ideologies such as man with man, woman with woman instead of God's institution of Marriage(man/woman), two genders: male, female. I would never attend his church. This man place liberal ideologies over the Word of God.
@@wonderfilled6048clearly, you did not listen to sermon 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@wonderfilled6048This is 2023! The Word is still the Word! However, humanity has changed, times have changed and we need to minister to all. The Bible tells us do justice, love mercy and walk humbly with our God. Hate the Sin, but love the sinner. He wants all to be saved and inherit the Kingdom. Love one another and be kind to all. Sadly, some can't see passed their own "exclusivity" of being in the Christian walk...
@@biggdaddy1873 this would be laughable if it weren’t so sad… 😔
May God bless you with the understanding of the word of God that you / I may not be deceived God help you sir for distorting the word of God I am sorry for the people that are lead a stray by your misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the truth of God
Im so glad he preached this sermon and im glad i heard it. Brother keep fighting for the under served!!
I watch a lot of his sermons. This one was so powerful and revealing in the hearts of many people/Christians. I will never understand the obsession Christian have with others folks sin when they can’t get their stuff right. A mustard seed of focus on You and your sin would make the world a much better place. I love that he points to the human capacity to laser focus on what fits one’s beliefs glossing over the other sins that would have you as well in internal fire. Amen to preaching to the amazing Glory-filled messages in the Bible
Thankful someone is talking about the violence toward women ! And the poor and needy ! I appreciate you sir!
Kath Beck I am sure you did not listen to the sermon.
Found my way here via twitter , I feel challenged as a Christian, this sermon is a brain opener ❤❤
Same!
Via Twitter & challenged to enrich my faith.
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Here via TikTok and when I watched those clips I saw there I cried thanking God He put this on him to get out there ❤️
I don’t have Twitter or instagram the Ig reminds me of my immunology class I dropped and they failed me in graduate school you can only earn Air B and C means goodbye you are no longer enrolled
His speaking on Sodom brought me to tears. Powerful ❤🙏
@@joey9562 just don't strike anyone face down or crying . They probably still blame you though shamelessly guilty thinking
“You don’t have to think like I think, just think.”
-Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley
This is the best most real sermon I've ever heard 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 thank you
Sermon is a bunch of liberal propaganda non sense, we are to depend on God not government.
How? He affirmed homosexuality
If you listened to this sermon and your only focus is on what he did/did not say about homosexuality then I’m afraid you’ve missed the entire point of the lesson.
Exactly!!
Nah, I think we got the "point." Dont agree with what he's trying to interject/imply/or lesson about that scripture concerning that section of Bible. Then (22.57), he brings up A verse in Ezekiel and just like a pastor who trys to re-write the scripture to fit either their personal belief or need/want ($$$$$). He "GETS LOUNDER!!!!!". Sir, just stop. We ALL FALL SHORT. According to SCRIPTURE, because we all can read and comprehend English, he was displeased with ALL HE NAMED, please dont try and lesson the sins by the order he named them in. He could've saved obomination until last to emphasize/ its importance. If you gonna tell it, tell it, like it reads. This doesn't mean to overly condemn a homosexual life style BUUUUT as far as SCRIPTURE says it was an abomination. It doesn't even say, "the act of homosexuality is a sin, but lets not forget the more important things. Oooooooh wait, what subject does the Bible say that about ooooooh(????) Thats RIGHT TITHES!!!!
@@Boxing24101 He is going to pay dearly for this, that’s for sure.
Bruh
The question is. How do u treat the homosexual. Jesus never looked at the crowd who judged the woman of adultery. He with out sin cast the first stone. Oh and Jesus told her Go and Sin no more. Compassionate retribution.. Do u have that Lo e?
My unofficial official Pastor! I love how no-nonsense and woke Pastor Howard is.
Preach preach preach! I appreciate a man/woman of God who is aware of current social injustices and is willing to speak and bring solutions to the pulpit. Whether we all realize it or not, social justice is all in the Bible and we must speak about it.
Social justice is personal responsibility, personal choices, and obeying the Word of God. We should be dependent on God, not the government and its benefits. Thats the problem.
The breakdown starts at 18:15.
He read verse 50 but, did he really read it. Four key words haughty, committed abomination, therefore.
Ezekiel 16:50
And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit.
And as Rev. Dr. Wesley said, "We could debate all day about what abomination is..." Ppl automatically attribute the word abomination to homosexuality. God is bigger then the connotation and denotation of words for God is the word and yet at the same time he is a mystery. If we think we have God figured out we're fooling ourselves.
@@shebeendope2322 correct there id a whole list of abominations in proverbs and not 1 is sexual. In addition the abomination could have been same sexual but in lustful ways...not a committed relationship.
And then abomination was used to mean homosexuality! Leviticus 20:13
@@shebeendope2322no Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. Gid us to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear:
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
He said God doesn't care about your morals but how you treat people. That does not make sense to me.
God bless you Pastor... Inspired by your preaching...
This is so wicked at its core!!! The scary part is that most people find this as a good message to fit their wicked ways.
It is clear that you did not listen to the entire sermon
@@rev.sheathompsonit is clear that God tells New Testament believers, the church, why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah :
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Love from South Africa.
i believe that Rev's approach to this controversial discussion is PRACTICAL and well explained. keep preaching . right thee with you. Bahamas.
I'm just seeing this in 2023, but whew!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
There were more than three Indictments in the Ezekiel 16 text, sir. You are ignoring the ones that are stated in verse 50, which starts with the word AND.
This sermon is simply on point! “ to serve this present age, my calling to fulfill, O, may all my powers engage to do my Master’s will.” Speak sir.
I love it!!!!
It is time we recognize that the Pastor can’t save us, only Almighty God can. So we can shout preach from the rooftop all we want but that will not change the standard God had set for the church. Have a relationship with God himself or you will be lead astray
Wow! I fully understand and have asked the question often .... How can folks who proclaim to be Christians attempt to defend their Christianity while operating and conducting themselves in deviant ways! Not giving any thought to the character and integrity of Christ. Not considering the compassion of Christ. Not fostering peace and goodwill for ALL. Not attempting to help your fellowman. Not actively caring about the poor and the needy in making food, healthcare and shelter affordable for ALL. Am I not my brother's keeper? To understand the message as delivered by Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley, you MUST allow the Holy Spirit to dwell, rule, reign (ABIDE)! Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley has not omitted, eliminated or dismissed any of the BIBLE. There are layers of importance and Rev. Dr. Howard-John Wesley has and is considering it ALL.
It's amazing how many people are agreeing with this SMH!! This shows that we are surely under the judgement of God. The Scriptures are clear on the sins of Sodom smh.
Amen!
Very as he is pointing them out amen!!
This pastor uses manipulation of the scriptures to try and affirm homosexuality. It is clear in scripture that that Gid condemns the act of homosexuality to the highest degree!Gid leaves no wiggle room in both the old and new testament. It’s an abomination people. Jude tells the church why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Read Jude! Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Don't think we have a right to give that disclaimer. We don't own the church and we must give the whole council of God's Word. Please finish the text. We are never to condemn, we are always to tell the whole truth, even if it makes us uncomfortable.
I can't imagine God destroying S & G and preventing a single blade of grass from ever growing in Sodom and Gomorah simply because of pride, gluttony, carelessness, complacency, and failure to help the poor and needy. Yechezk'el (Ezk) 16:49 CJB. If this is the case we are all in imminent danger of being destroyed
Not all...just those who don't care
I attend the church in Philadelphia call Enon Tabernacle Baptist Church Dr. Alyn E. Waller. I am so honored to watch your services online. You keep it real and don't sugarcoat things and that's the way it needs to be in this day and age. May the Lord continue to bless you and use you.
Hey everybody take the time to read the full chapters he references.There are plenty of scriptures on homosexuality. And he is not bringing them into this monologue. People are addressing his comments on homosexuality because they are wrong. Part truth and part error equals deception. That’s exactly what Satan did to Eve in the garden and what he tried with Jesus in the wilderness.
I agree
God knew that one would use the passage out of Ezekiel to try and minimize the vileness of the act of homosexuality. Everyplace you see the act of homosexuality in scripture it is condemn by God to the fullest. There is no where in scripture that God gives even the slightest hint that so called same gender loving relationships are ok’d by God. How a believer could confuse this as live when God calls it a vile affection is perplexing. God tells the church why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Pastor Wesley in all his so called passion, failed to mention the book of Jude!
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
There it is, why should there be any further discussion in why God destroyed these wicked Cities! Trying to affirm something God condemns is blasphemous!
Preach Dr.Wesley! Scream it from the rooftops!
Hallelujah Pastor Wesley; Until testimonials TRUTHFULLY address violence committed against children and women but dwells ONLY on homosexuality, Well......
God told me that he made us all in HIS image. We have people who can barely live up to the 10 Commandments and Golden Rule, yet are quick to hold onto a scripture to condemn others😢🙃
God condemns homosexuality. As believers we agree to the truth of scripture. God leaves no stone unturned when it comes to the vile act of homosexuality. Why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? I think it’s clear why!
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
I do love the point made on abundance and blessings. They should not quiet us as to speaking to the plight of others.
Thank you.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GODSTIME MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION.) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on (+2347018757903) tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirite faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you!.
So, Ms. OPRAH read the book. She has a BOOK CLUB! SHE'S one of the "silent ones" ONES, ever since #45 has been in office. Not one PEEP out of her. I hit that share button so long, my arthritis flared up. Preach Pastor.
At 10:34, John Wesley says, God's deepest displeasure is just how we treat strangers, but disobedience to Him. Number one commandment, Deuteronomy 6:5..And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. When it comes to strangers, God don't want his people to follow their religions and gods: Deuteronomy 6:14, Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you. New Testament, Jesus said the first commandment of the New Testament in Mark 12:30:" And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment." The world and lgbt people like to omit the first commandment Love the Lord thy God, but mention the second commandment, Love thy neighbor....as the only commandment, this is wrong.
I totally agree with Shanice Joseph, I often tell my family Rev. Dr. Wesley is my virtual pastor...
Your generalization is misplaced brother, Christians are correct to stand up and speak out against anything God dislikes including Homosexuality.
amen
He didn't say that Christians couldn't speak up against homosexuality, but he wants us to stay think about and speak about the other things that God calls us to speak up on. Also you'd need to know that Rev. Dr. Howard John Wesley is an inclusivist you'd better understand the word that he was given to bring forth unto us. God cannot be boxed in and we have no authority to put anyone in heaven nor hell so we should also be careful of what we choose to speak up on and how we speak on it. Be encouraged in the Lord.
@@911EVERLASTINGGOSPEL Yes! Amen! Thank you for this comment.
@@shebeendope2322 No, Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear:
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
- everybody isn’t a Child of God, Satan has children also John 8:44
Better say it and he has planted agents that preach from the pulpit 🙌
This is terrible in so many ways. Here are just a few false statements:
1. Sermon will challenge people in way that is uncomfortable - All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 CSB
2. If you got God all figure out and dont have room for challenge or change you wont like this worship service - Is he implying that God has given him a private interpretation of scripture? Above all, you know this: No prophecy of Scripture comes from the prophet’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the will of man; instead, men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
2 Peter 1:20-21 CSB
3. Sodom’s sin was not only selfishness, but also homosexuality. This is evident from several facts. First of all, the context of Genesis 19 reveals that their perversion was sexual (see comments on Gen. 19:8).
Second, the sin of selfishness related by Ezekiel (16:49) does not exclude the sin of homosexuality. As a matter of fact, sexual sins are a form of selfishness, since they are the satisfaction of fleshly passions.
Third, by calling their sin an “abomination,” the very next verse (v. 50, nkjv) indicates that it was sexual. This is the same word used to describe homosexual sins in Leviticus 18:22.
Jude 1:7 CSB Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns committed sexual immorality and perversions, and serve as an example by undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
4. Using the example of the Holocaust and the plight of homosexuality is about the dumbest comparison Ive ever heard. He does this after telling you he has a masters degree. So, he has knowledge but no wisdom. Homosexuals are trying to change the word of God to fit their lifestyle. How in the world can this be used as a comparable to what Jews (Gods chosen people) experience in the Holocaust. Second of all, those who commit homosexual sin is an abomination to God and therefore they must repent. Jews didnt have to repent from being Jews, Nazi Germany sought to do the same thing the evil Haman attempted to do.
5. Any person who indulges in any type of sin - ongoing, is not of God. 1 John 3:6-8 CSB, Everyone who remains in him does not sin; everyone who sins has not seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. The one who commits sin is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God was revealed for this purpose: to destroy the devil’s works.
6. God issue with Israel was about how they deals with them. Really? This guy cant be serious. Then turns around and contradicts himself by saying they were stiffnecked. Which is it? This is what ths bible says.
Psalms 78:9-37 CSB
The Ephraimite archers turned back on the day of battle. They did not keep God’s covenant and refused to live by his law. They forgot what he had done, the wondrous works he had shown them. He worked wonders in the sight of their ancestors in the land of Egypt, the territory of Zoan. He split the sea and brought them across; the water stood firm like a wall. He led them with a cloud by day and with a fiery light throughout the night. He split rocks in the wilderness and gave them drink as abundant as the depths. He brought streams out of the stone and made water flow down like rivers. But they continued to sin against him, rebelling in the desert against the Most High. They deliberately tested God, demanding the food they craved. They spoke against God, saying, “Is God able to provide food in the wilderness? Look! He struck the rock and water gushed out; torrents overflowed. But can he also provide bread or furnish meat for his people?” Therefore, the Lord heard and became furious; then fire broke out against Jacob, and anger flared up against Israel because they did not believe God or rely on his salvation. He gave a command to the clouds above and opened the doors of heaven. He rained manna for them to eat; he gave them grain from heaven. People ate the bread of angels. He sent them an abundant supply of food. He made the east wind blow in the skies and drove the south wind by his might. He rained meat on them like dust, and winged birds like the sand of the seas. He made them fall in the camp, all around the tents. The people ate and were completely satisfied, for he gave them what they craved. Before they had turned from what they craved, while the food was still in their mouths, God’s anger flared up against them, and he killed some of their best men. He struck down Israel’s fit young men. Despite all this, they kept sinning and did not believe his wondrous works. He made their days end in futility, their years in sudden disaster. When he killed some of them, the rest began to seek him; they repented and searched for God. They remembered that God was their rock, the Most High God, their Redeemer. But they deceived him with their mouths, they lied to him with their tongues, their hearts were insincere toward him, and they were unfaithful to his covenant.
I cant listen to this sermon anymore. Technically, the sermon fell apart after ths first lie he told in ths beginning.
Amen
This sermon is not of GOD! Sodom was destroyed because of sexual morality…This pastor is all over the place. He needs prayer! 🙏🙏
At 18:55, Wesley says " Sodom and Gommorah is not about same gender love(homosexuality), but Wesley avoid preaching these verses on the Biblical views on gender and sexual relationship between man and woman in marriage. Gen.5:2 Male and female created he them. Jesus said in Mark 10:6,7, :" But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; " God's will and commandment is two genders male and female, and sexual relationship for man and woman in marriage only, not man with man, woman with woman (see Roman 1:27).
Yes it also has to do with men loving men and women loving woman. Read both scriptures for yourself. U can twist the word as much as you want to bring the worldly agenda but Gods word stand sure.
🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿 I have to start talking about that which I'm passionate about. I've been too quiet.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GODSTIME MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION.) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on (+2347018757903) tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirite faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you!.
Brilliant.
It may not have been His first issue, but it was an issue. It's not about going to hell. They're 4 issues. You don't have the right to dismiss verse 50. We have to stop beating up God's people for believing the whole Word of God. We don't have the right to do that.
Word bro!
AMEN! We don’t promote or overlook anything that doesn’t please The Most High. This is really a wake up call to the saints. The devil is testing the waters. He knows he can’t fool the very elect but he’s trying to gauge how many of us will EARNESTLY CONTEND FOR THE FAITH THAT WAS ONCE DELIVERED! He’s trying to back the Kingdom of God down subtly ( as usual ). We should be bold as the apostles were. The IMMUTABLE WORD OF OUR TRUE AND LIVING GOD SHALL STAND FOREVER!
@@wonderfilled6048 his much learning is a good tool for the devil ppl will believe cause they perceive him to be very informed
Dont agree with what he's trying to interject/imply/or lesson about that scripture concerning that section of the Bible. Then (22.57), he brings up A verse in Ezekiel and just like a pastor who trys to re-write the scripture to fit either their personal belief or need/want ($$$$$). He "GETS LOUNDER!!!!!". Sir, just stop. We ALL FALL SHORT.
According to SCRIPTURE, because we all can read and comprehend English, He was displeased with ALL HE NAMED, please dont try and lesson the sins by the order he named them in. He could've saved obomination until last to emphasize/ its importance. If you gonna tell it, tell it, like it reads. This doesn't mean overly condemning a homosexual life style BUUUUT as far as SCRIPTURE says it was an abomination. It doesn't even say, "The act of homosexuality is a sin, but let's not forget the more important things". Oooooooh wait, what subject does the Bible say that about ooooooh(????) Thats RIGHT TITHES!!!!
I think Pastor Wesley, has miss interpret Gensis 19. regarding lot and the members of his church need to study their Bible for themselves, i think he is going too far trying to justify the life style of gay. they are many bible verses specifically speak openly against sexual sins of the men, not focusing on the voilence of it only. Dr. Wesley needs to be very carefully he dont lead his members down a sinful road to believe that gay or lesbian life style is ok with God, that so wrong. You cannot be a practice gay or lesbian and go to heaven. Neither can you be a practice Rapist or a Murder and go to Heaven. I realize in previous Sermons he is trying to justified Homosexuality.
I totally agree. He is now traveling the same road as most other mega preachers.
Thank you, my thoughts also. He started out good, but lost me when he miss interpret Genesis 19. He took away what God said about Sodomites throughout the whole bible.
brandon christian it’s an ABOMINATION. There’s a difference.
@Victory Deliverance and your basis for this claim is what
Is Pastor Wesley hiding something?
Very inspiring want to hear more very good and breaking it down so it's easier for you to understand enjoyed it very much
I appreciate the sermon on the sins of Sodom. I believe there is still room to speak of God’s displeasure with sexual immorality as stated in the books of Jude and 2 Peter, regarding Sodom.
It is dangerous to affirm, even indirectly, a lifestyle that God in God’s revealed word (the Bible) has not affirmed.
I love this preacher, but think it’s irresponsible to not address the entire teaching on the subject of homosexuality.
None of us has the authority to condemn anyone to hell, but we have been given authority to teach and preach truth found in the Bible.
God have mercy on us all.
Yes my sister i share the same sentiments and i wouldnt be Surprise to know that his Church as alot gay and lesbians their. this is the reason why he dont wants to speak out against the life style.
I wholeheartedly agree. Cry loud and spare none.
He said that you don't have to think what he thinks, just make sure you're thinking. I applaud my pastor for his historical study of biblical literature. He actually study and prepare his messages. I appreciate that!
Antonio Ellis I dont think thaty you are studying your bible, if you have been doing so then you would have stated other wise.
Cool... there are hundreds, if not thousands of interpretations of scripture out there. I'm sure your interpretation is the golden answer. Everyone else who interprets differently is wrong. You have the keys to heaven. Congrats!
Uh, no. This is not Biblical.
In describing the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah, Dr. Wesley should consult all of God’s word, and not be so quick to dismiss the significance of sexual sins in God’s decision to destroy these cities. Consider the following:
2 Peter 2:6-8
“...if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard)...”
Jude 7
“...just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.”
The fact of the matter is not all that people today call “love” is actually love. Some “love” is nothing more than sensual lust and sin. And there is no debate in Scripture: same-sex sexual acts are an “abomination” (see Leviticus 18:22; 20:13). Of course, homosexuality is not the only abomination, and sexual sins are not the only sins. But this gives us no excuse to gloss over the clear fact that homosexual behavior is roundly condemned everywhere it is mentioned in Scripture.
Wyeth Duncan the sermon was for you brother and especially how pastor introduced his message.
th-cam.com/video/SfpVPydcNrQ/w-d-xo.html
Deborah Musau I listened to the entire sermon. I don’t care how Dr. Wesley introduced his sermon. This is not about what I (or anyone else) may or may not like. GOD has spoken, and GOD has spoken clearly. And what GOD has said is right, and everything which disagrees with what GOD has said is wrong. Period.
The issue is that, in making some relevant points about our political leaders, Dr. Wesley also undermines the authority of God’s revealed and written Word as it concerns sexual ethics. He is actively confirming men and women in their sin (their sin of homosexuality), and cleverly and slyly suggesting that that which God has declared wrong (homosexuality) is actually right (or at least morally neutral). THAT is wrong. And it is dangerous. God has pronounced woe against anyone who would dare do such a thing, leading others astray (see e.g., Isaiah 5:20).
In other words, this is about God, and about the authority of God’s revealed and written Word (i.e., Scripture, the Bible).
Wyeth Duncan I agree with what the word of God says. He does not contradict himself!!! He reveales himself to us differently.
Differently*
Ezekiel 16:49-50 KJV
[49] Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. [50] And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good …
God knew that people would use the passage in Ezekiel to try and minimize the vileness of Sodom and homosexuality. So being an all wise God he put the reason for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in the N.T. Howard Wesley never mention these scriptures because in a slick round about way, he is trying his best to affirm so called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm something God has condemned is blasphemous. But below is the reason for the cities destruction.
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
If this scripture was about sexual violence, would Lot had offered his daughters to take the place of the "men" that the "men" outside were looking to "love"?
Jessyca Mosby my Sister I am glad u are reading your Bible. However Pastor Wesley is leading his members down a wrong pathway and I have lost all my respect for him. His Position is very false regarding Sodom and the Obamination.
Yes.. why not? How old were his daughters?? I mean hell, if a couple of men want to "RAPE" another Male that is your guest why would anyone think the answer is to give him your daughters? Who does that? Rape is Violence!
they weren't there for women.
so why offer your daughter?
URANUS RAPSTAR BassGameProductionz there you go! Thank you!!! Lot was saying raping the women would BE BETTER THAN LAYING WITH YOUR OWN SEX. One a sin the other an ABOMINATION. They’re not trying to hear you though.
A born again Christian have to pray a lot, listen to your Pastor's teachings, and ask God, if this Pastor's teachings is in line with the Word of God, If a Pastor's teachings is not in line with God's Word then leave that church become they maybe a False teacher. Look up Duke University lgbt theology college on TH-cam, this is one example about theology colleges that don't follow God's Word. A minister with a degree or degrees in theology does not mean they have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Be on guard.
This sermon is a disaster.
I think the root of his issue is he will not perform proper biblical exegesis of the text.
If he would have just stood in front of the congregation and just read verse by verse Gen. 19, the congregation would have have heard the truth of God’s word, prayerfully repented for their sins, and and committed themselves to stop their “abominable” acts before God and men.
LOVE this Teaching and PREACHING 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
We all would do well to read for ourselves what Bible says.. 1 Corinthians 6 says about homosexuality.. And in revelation 21 what it says about it.. Sexual immorality is wrong point blank period..
Very powerful and needful message. God bless you Rev Dr. Howard John Wesley
I appreciate Pastor John Howard Wesley sermonic presentations, however on this issue God is clear. Morality is still a part of God’s standard. It is unfortunate many believers are not biblically sound enough to know when a preacher deviates from the word. The spiritual condition of a person is impacted by sexual sin and the failure to love our brothers. God is a loving God but his love is HOLY. We are Holy because of GODS presence. When God withdrew his presence from his people this was a serious matter. The problem I have with this sermon is that sin has always had eternal ramifications in our lives. If Dr. Wesley is wrong about his evolution in his theology, sadly many will follow and be lost. PRAY ABOUT THIS ONE.
You miss the point as so many believers do. Morality is composed of what you can see and what you cannot see. Pastor Wesley is speaking about how God sees and addressing why the children of God are captive. It is also what Jesus speaks about when the disciples speaks of the grandeur of the temple and Jesus speaks of the destruction that would come in 70AD. God always let you see whats coming in advance of the season which no man knows.
Actually I see this as amplifying more aspects of morality. We tend to gloss over things like idolatry and not caring for the poor and the 'other'. Not doing those things are just as serious sins as engaging in same gender sex but rarely are they discussed in church today.
You discerned this correctly. People do not get the difference between God chastising His own out of love and Him condemning those that He turned over to their own reprobate ways of thinking and thus their living. Those He turns over to themselves He will destroy but he chastens those who are His because HIS SHEEP WILL HEAR HIS VOICE ABD A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW. Sheep may falter but they will ultimately turn back to Him because they came from Him. The GOATS will be consumed in the fire. Folks are tripping on the rainbow 🌈 not understanding the rainbow won’t stop the FIRE next time... Be blessed and continue to contend for the faith.
@@wonderfilled6048 Condemnation is not of God so I feel that I have to disagree with your view, however, I love you with the love of Jesus Christ. Be blessed!
shebeendopesince_1980 Condemnation is absolutely of God.
God is love, and God does all things for his glory (1 John 4:8; Romans 11:36). He loves his glory above all (and that is a good thing!). Therefore, God rules the world in such a way that brings himself maximum glory. This means that God must act justly and judge sin (i.e. respond with wrath), otherwise God would not be God. God’s love for his glory motivates his wrath against sin.
Admittedly, God’s love for his own glory is a most sobering reality for many and not good news for sinners. It is after all, “a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God” (Hebrews 10:31).
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I hate it when people use “God love us all” as an excuse for their abominations! Ofcoz he loves u but u need to obey him. Otherwise Even the Israelites (God’s chosen nation) were punished and killed for their abomination, Adam and Eve were cursed forever for their disobedience! Who are those you call “God’s children” that can’t be condemned for their evil acts? No wonder many people will b left behind including these fake pastors, we’re not God’s children by flesh or blood but by receiving and believing him John 1:22-13
Fire and brimestone🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👊💯😠😠😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡
Hate, evil, vile... you are spewing hatred. You'd be judged in the same manner
Sodom and Gomorrah what is destroyed because of everything the pastor said including same, gender, relations, for we know if we read scripture, same gender relations is mentioned throughout the word of God more than three times as well that include the New Testament however, no sin/ Act is greater than the other. Let’s be clear men and women of God are supposed to stand on the truth, the word of God, at all cost, no matter how it’s twisted we have to live God’s way his way not ours
And they refused to repent
wow now that's keeping it 100
Now he’s going soft on sexual immorality. Some of this stuff is coming from him and not God. I’m out-
At the onset of his message, he stated that some folks will "be out". I support my pastor as he continuously study biblical history and theology. I respect him highly.
You must be gay...bye-
@@j3spencer1 Bye Felicia
@@j3spencer1 Bye Felicia
SO ARE YOU AFFIRMING SAME GENDER LOVE AKA HOMOSEXUALITY?
While I appreciate the effort by Dr. Wesley, and the analogies to the president.; however he deliberately ignored the scripture in regard to morality. This is why we are guilty of not telling the whole truth. Praying!!
A half truth is an ENTIRE LIE! Amen
Exactly!!
The point is when condemning pridefulness or the lack of caring for the poor and needy how many people refer to these cities being destroyed?? However 9/10 refer to it when condemning the abomination. Either way the cities were destroyed. Prideful folks..right along with abominators n self righteous.
👏🏾 good teaching
3 things: boastful; got mine and don't advocate for others; abundance of idleness; these precedes who sleeping with who.
I truly believe that Pastor Wesley was saying to his listeners is to always look at your life before judging others. this is where we forget about who we were
Church is for God's people, not for unbelievers.
We are not to keep company with a brother who is a fornicator or an idolater, yet we invite the world into our fellowship with open arms. Even the Jews under Moses law, separated themselves from gentiles, not keeping company with heathens.
But we see today what the policies of men have wrought in the Church, while driven by covetousness, which they hope to fulfill by increasing church attendance through carnal inventions.
For God has said, Come out from among them and be separate, not invite them to church in hopes that might hear and be saved. God said, Go into all the world and preach the Gospel.
It is one thing for the boat to be in the water, it is another thing for the water to be in the boat.
What fellowship hath light with darkness?
Anyone with an ounce of Bible knowledge know what the sin of Sodom was. Come on people, don't just sit there and parrot Amens, WAKE-UP.
I’m hear via tic toc!
Against. The. Poor and needy. !!! Exactly. !
We must understand Multiple Definitions - #1. - Define Theology: the study of God and of religious doctrines and matters of divinity - #2. - Define Divine: (A) - to guess - (B) - to find out by intuition - #3. - Define Divinity: Theology - #4. - Define Intuition: the immediate knowing of somthing without the conscious use of reasoning - #5. - [ Remember this is a Church, President Barack Obama goes to, around "Easter" ] - (Easter is a Pagan custom and Obama is from the seed of Noah's son Ham = Genesis 10:19, ... as thou goest, unto Sod'om, and Go-mor'rah, ...) - Genesis 19:5, ... ? bring them out unto us,that we may know them. ->> Genesis 4:1, And Ad'am knew Eve his wife; ... ->> Isaiah 3:9, The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sins as Sod'om, they hide it not. ... ->> Jude 7, ... and going after strange flesh, ... - 2nd. Peter 2:6,7,8, - Define True: comforming to standards, etc. ; correct - Define Truism: a statement the truth which is obvious ->> Preachers not tell the Whole truth - Reinforcing Women's groups for political gain and to Keep the house hold Split! - [ Homosexuality and Black Queens of Heaven( Jeremiah --44:15--,16,17,18,19-25, = Beyonce/Asherah/Diana/Daughters of Jupiter etc. - always ride in the same a Car ] - Talking about Homosexuals/Gays/Lesbians/ etc. - Offends people, Who Have that Canaanite Pagan Spirit - The Lying Spirit is Remolding/Converting the Church's to their image 😖 - Obama past the Gay Law -- I Wonder Why??? -
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I wish it could be. Fb. Shared. A. Million times !!! It refuses my. Tries
Excellent sermon. He did his exegetical and hermeneutics!!!🙏🏽
I LOVE MY PASTOR!!!
Hermeneutics & Exegetical ✍🏾 I instantly looked these words up! Wow 💡
I agree, this sermon is extraordinary 🙏🏾
Thank you for enlightening this “word of the day” lover 🤎
No he did not! no Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear:
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
@@LearningToLove.. No he did not! Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear:
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
He’s stepping on some American toes…
You lost me when you said God doesn’t care about who you sleep with, 🤦🏾♂️ He literally calls it an Abomination, those that willing take part any adultery, and or abomination, shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Stop misleading the flock of God! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
…stop misleading yourself
@@gkenny320 read the Bible you don’t need nobody else! READ YOUR BIBLE ❤️
AMEN. 🌈✝️
I see this is TOO DEEP for some... Teach Rev. Dr. Wesley
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No he did not! no Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear:
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
We are surely in the last days. Pastors subtracting from the word of God to suit their own lust and to gain brethren
It is clear that you did not listen to the sermon
@@rev.sheathompsonno, it’s clear that they did. Paul speaks to Timothy about how people will have itching ears and would desire to listen to doctrine that is in support of their own lusts rather than oppose it. sadly, this is a clear example of such.
The Eziekel 16:49-50 context of Sodom and Gomorrah is attenuated from the Genesis account, which condemns homosexuality, by the Leviticus law and physiological logic. Eziekel's account focused on the overarching cause. Homosexuality was there effect. Cause and effect will always define integrity of purpose.
Yes, LGBTQIA also need to be appropriately loved and redeemed; but until they abandon their reprehensible culture, they should never be granted membership among believers because both New and Old Testament condemn it. In fact, Roman's 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, 1 Timothy 1:10, among other scriptures, clearly states that they cannot be a part of God's kingdom, while they remain unrepentant.
Wesley is clearly within the ranks of an ostensibly eloquent false prophet, by whom the victims of naivety are enamoured to their own eternal destruction because the blind leads the blind.....
Wow, deviation from Gods Word to satisfy The Worldly. He said this would happen in the last days😢
It is clear that you did not listen to the entire sermon 🤦🏽♂️
The bible says Satan has ministers of light as well. All these so called "pastors" with all these titles such as "Dr, etc" aren't all called by God. We're supposed to hate what God hate and love what God loves. People need to start reading the Bible for themselves instead of just listening to what these wolves in sheep clothing pastors are preaching. It's time to wake up people, Christ is coming back son, and don't allow pastors such as John Wesley to deceive you. Homosexuality is an abomination, there's no way around what God says. Anyone who disagrees with SCRIPTURE is either themselves in the sin on homosexuality and/or supports homosexuality.
2 Corinthians 11:14-15
King James Version
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the minister
🗣️ black man. I’m a child of GOD!!!!!!!
God certainly isn't pleased with how we treat each other today.
My GOD make it plain!!
Please, less politics more Bible. I do understand the our current president loves to boast but it almost seems like in the message (and at least another one I have listened to) you are trying to get the listeners to hate the current goverment as much as you do. Maybe hate is a big word, perhaps dislike is a better term. I appreciate you defending the women but there is also a great opportunity to speak on homosexuality that is also present in this passage. Unless you are for and not against it.
Wow
Hoooo...he's laying down the gauntlet today. 👏👏👏👏
HELLO! Any real Christians out there? WHY DIDNT HE PREACH OUT OF ROMANS 1?? It’s crazy! Dude is not a real man of God and is just trying to please man instead of preaching the whole council of God.
People need to open their Spiritual ears. Clapping and praising heretical words. 🤦🏾♂️
Sodom and Gomorrah was about homosexuality. Period. He will answer to God and as Paul said, everyone who agrees!!
EXCELLENT SERMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wendell Woods
Preach pastor Wesley
No, Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear:
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
The message of the God of the Bible is still 2Chronicles 7:14 🙏
So the 3 sins of Sodom was having money, not sharing money, and being quiet while having money😂😂. Yea you waaaaaayyyy off from the Text. So the Bible only condemns violent homosexuality? You a wolf I feel bad for your flock
“Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, (1) pride, (2) fullness of bread, (3) and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and the needy.” Ezekiel 16: 49
@@ninatravis7791 Jude 7 (ESV): 7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
@@oakwoodsams2751 I read from the King James version, "giving over to fornication and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." I hate the newer versions; language gets lost in translation and editors put THEIR spin on the text. As far as we know, strange flesh could mean animals.
@@ninatravis7791 Jude 7 (KJV): 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
It doesn’t get any better with the king James but if that verse didn’t suffice here is 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾
Leviticus 20:13 (KJV): 13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Just in case you need it in the New Testament
Romans 1:26-27 (KJV): 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
God has His own list of who's going to hell read 1Cor 6, Romans 1, just to name a few.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Amen Amen Amen
49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it. 51 Samaria has not committed half your sins. You have committed more abominations than they, and have made your sisters appear righteous by all the abominations that you have committed. (Ezekiel 16:49-51, ESV)
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This is a man that understands how to read scripture. Context. Anyone that dislikes this sermon is a bigoted fool who will catch them flames. Need to worry about their own walk & how they treat people. It’s not your place to judge. It’s your place to love. Point blank, period.
Keep preaching the truth brother. 🫶🏼
Thank you
This is a man without the Spirit of Truth, he need to read Romans 1 and Lev 18:22. The scriptures are very clear about homosexuality.
No, Pastor Wesley was trying to be slick in a round about way to affirm so-called same gender loving relationships. Trying to affirm what God has condemned is blasphemous. God is to wise to leave the door open on why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. He left the church with the reason. It is clear:
Jude 1:7-8 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. [8] Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.