"I understand, Doctor. I'm sure the Captain would simply have said: 'Forget it, Bones.'" Don't deny it, you awwwwwed there. This is quite probably the only time we hear Spock call McCoy "Bones", and it can only be described as endearing. You sweet, forgiving, pointed-eared hobgoblin.
In the novel and a deleted scene from Star Trek VI, McCoy and Spock are in the torpedo tube and McCoy says "Its a shame we're about to retire" To which Spock replies "Yes... We were just beginning to work out our differences"
Hearing Spock say "Forget it, Bones" is funny but also so endearing. It shows how close Jim and Spock have grown throughout the series, and how sentiment means to Spock. Just because he is half-Vulcan doesn't mean he doesn't have emotions.
McCoy always knew when his duty station placed him at the top of the chain of command. He never overused it; he was always subordinate when that was his role. Unfailingly. But he knew his Star Fleet regulations to the last dotted i. When they gave ship's surgeon the last word, he never backed down; he looked ranking officers in the eye and told them how it was going to be. I didn't get that as a kid, but re-watching all these years later, I see it.
Damn, Spock sounded straight gangsta beginning at 3:02 when he told McCoy he WAS in command of the Enterprise! Then McCoy clapped back hard and I was like WTF?!? I never cared for this episode so I only watched it a few times, but looking at it now...yeezus! Spock and McCoy were upper-cutting each other like crazy!
Damn! Bones got dead roasted there! How ya like to that Bones?! Serves ya right for showing disloyalty in your career and committing mutiny over your Starfleet leaders! Ya son of a dingle!
"I'm sure the Captain would simply have said: 'Forget it, Bones.'" The way how Spock said what Jim would've said in such a moment is quite endearing, and it goes to show how well he's known Kirk in the few years they've served together in Starfleet. It brings to mind what Spock's adopted sister Michael Burnham said to him: "There's a whole galaxy out there. Full of people who will reach for you. You have to let them. Find that person who seems farthest from you and reach for them." Spock did indeed find that person in Jim, and his words were very logical in this moment when McCoy needed them, with the space madness affecting him and others.
It seems to me that Spock valued Kirk's friendship because Jim accepted and valued Spock for who Spock was more than anyone Spock had known, including other Vulcans, Spock's own parents, and even Spock himself. All Spock's life, he was being told to be who others thought he should be and shut out by his own father because he wasn't. But Jim Kirk, for the most part, regarded Spock as more than good enough being Spock.
Considering that Vulcan pathology is exempt from fear, I would say they make excellent husbands They wouldn't rib at a woman's emotional condition, which would probably be the only reason to take offense. They would make provision for it Women are all about confidence
It always hurts me to see McCoy yell at Spock in this episode. Kirk is and forever spocks bast friend and to see McCoy telling him what he does is to take command when he is so clearly hurt and worried about Kirk just hurts... how can people on the ship judge Spock for not having emotions when they have so little empathy.
@@XxiheartsupermanXx I don't think it's that OOC. McCoy has a habit of lashing out when he's stressed or hurting, and Kirks death hit him really hard too. It's the negative aspect of his more emotional approach to things that balances his positive empathic qualities. Combined with the space madness, it's no surprise that he's being erratic here.
Spock has an issue that has always brought him at odds with mccoy, his very calm demeanor. Even in teh most dire circumstance the vulcan pension for logic and focus puts spock at odds with everyone else. Everyone else is use to working through their emotions not hiding them. Vulcans have to control their emotions for it was what lead them to near extinction, a culture reinforced over centuries and centuries. More so for someone who is half-human.
@@KenshiImmortalWolf And that very pension for logic and focus can drive nearby humans slightly bonkers, because it can come across as cold and uncaring. Which it isn't, of course.
Yes. This bothered me considerably, watching McCoy lash out at Spock with accusations that at some level he *must* have known were inaccurate, to say the least. He did his best to redeem himself after they viewed Kirk's final orders, though.
This show was so well written and well acted. The interplay between Kirk, Spock and McCoy was the heart of TOS and something I don't think any of the later Trek series' ever did as well.
You can see it in some of McCoy's more intense moments, De's ability to squint his eyes and pull all the air out of the room with tension. He was a great actor 🧡
I always thought that in the Tholian Web episode, McCoy was completely unfair to Spock. The circumstances clearly showed that Spock was in no way to blame for the predicament they were in. It was the Tholians who made a bad situation considerably worse, however unintentionally.
He was, but again, he was stressed and *dis*tressed over what he believed to be the death of the captain. Plus the effects of the Tholian space were affecting him. And also ... McCoy is human, and humans often lash out when their emotions get cranked up. Spock's focus on logic could easily come across, under the circumstances, as cold and callous. Which it wasn't, of course, but in McCoy's state of mind he wasn't in much shape to see that.
@@mnirwin5112 Good points. It occurs to me also that it was never mentioned how the Tholians' hostility might have caused to some degree by the effects of that unstable region of space.
McCoy was completely out of order & many of his dialogue lines seem over the top & just a bit out of character for Bones. But it seems to be a staple that EVERY time Spock is in actual command he gets a pretty hard attack during the episode. Things are said to him & in a fashion NO ONE would have ever considered speaking to Captain Kirk that way. Guess in this episode they decided McCoy would be the one to harang Spock.
Who ever put this video on here they cut out the best part, When they watch the video of Captin Kirk telling Bones if Spock takes over then Help him and remember he is in charge give him the same respect you give me. That made Bones fell like shit after seeing that, Kirk also told Spock if he needs help to seek out Dr McCoy he always was a help to me- In other works help each other do not act like assholes- Then at the end of this epicode Spock and McCoy both lie to Captin Kirk telling his they never saw the last video of the Captin telling them what to do - Funny i thought Spock couldn't lie? Spock also lied in three other epicode's
Mccoy has no problem putting Spock down. Sometimes he acts like he hates Spock. He opens his big mouth and tries to make Spock feel guilty or bad about something and tries to eat his words later and apologize. He shoots from the hip without thinking how cruel and hurtful his words can be. He tries to backtrack and say" I am sorry Spock", the thoughtless cruel words have already been said and heard. You cannot UNRING a bell.
he says the hardest words possible just to break down that armored wall of Spock. He knows that Spock is not for the weak. And between you and me, people who seem to lack an ounce of empathy are annoying.
He's being affected by the Tholian Web in this video. He speaks the truth when he says that he's sorry, and he knows it's nothing that Spock's done, it must be the space getting to him, too. I don't think McCoy realized it was affecting him so much until that moment, when it had strained his body to the point of passing out. But thankfully Spock understood.
I Dream of Crafting This is the third season episode, The Tholian Web. This is whare the Enterprise came into the Tholian section of the galaxy in serch of and found the USS Defiant which a boarding party went over to asertain the reasons why the ship was disabled and drifting in space. Trivial information also here, the voice over of Comander Loskein was actress Barbra Babcock. The boarding party consited of the Captain, the first officer/science officer Mr. Spock, chief medical officer Dr. McCoy to treat any surviving Defiant crew members, and navigator, ensign Pavel Checkov.
Susan A. Thought it is an excellent episode. Yes, it did show a great deal of confrontation between the good Doctor, and the perfectly logical and always unemotional first officer, Mr. Spock, however it also began showing how the good Doctor would eventually come to a mutual agreement with the first officer and began accepting his position as comanding the Enterprise when the Captain was absent. Please note though, that although there was a constant confrontation between the good Doctor and the science officer, second in command, they did have a deep respect for each other's scientigic skills and knowledge, and began to eventually accept each other accordingly.
McCoy is unusually confrontational here, and at times is slightly irrational. But remember that the area they were in tended to have a psychological effect, something the episode touches upon quite often. McCoy was likely affected, and it heightened his temper. I frankly doubt that McCoy would normally have been this distrustful towards Spock.
@@Ares99999 Agreed that he is affected by the space. I think he is also in pain due to the loss of his friend, and so he irrationally accuses Spock of wanting the command of the Enterprise (even if Spock did not choose to leave, which would have guaranteed the command). McCoy doesn’t accept Spock as Captain (not until later in the episode) and he keeps challenging his decisions, because he doesn’t want to accept Kirk’s death.
@@Ares99999 On the other hand, he pushes Spock hard to admit his emotions by asking him why he chose to stay. Spock of course avoids answering directly, which causes McCoy to push even more. Eventually Spock implicitly admits that he is also in pain with his answer: “What would you have me say Doctor?”
@@geso101 I think McCoy might have bipolar. He might've blamed Spock for Kirk's loss even though he was innocent and it wasn't his fault and he didn't have anything to do with it.
"I understand, Doctor. I'm sure the Captain would simply have said: 'Forget it, Bones.'"
Don't deny it, you awwwwwed there. This is quite probably the only time we hear Spock call McCoy "Bones", and it can only be described as endearing. You sweet, forgiving, pointed-eared hobgoblin.
In Star Trek Beyond, nuSpock calls McCoy by his first name.
Yeah, I wrote that comment before Beyond. 😂 And I prefer the original series/movies, though the reboots aren't too bad.
In the novel and a deleted scene from Star Trek VI, McCoy and Spock are in the torpedo tube and McCoy says
"Its a shame we're about to retire"
To which Spock replies
"Yes... We were just beginning to work out our differences"
The Strangest Username "You sweet, forgiving, pointy-eared hobgoblin"
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What medal was that in the safe? And who has it or where js it now?
"Forget it, Bones." SPOCK AWWW
PrettyOddVices I know, I love that part
Hearing Spock say "Forget it, Bones" is funny but also so endearing. It shows how close Jim and Spock have grown throughout the series, and how sentiment means to Spock. Just because he is half-Vulcan doesn't mean he doesn't have emotions.
McCoy always knew when his duty station placed him at the top of the chain of command. He never overused it; he was always subordinate when that was his role. Unfailingly. But he knew his Star Fleet regulations to the last dotted i. When they gave ship's surgeon the last word, he never backed down; he looked ranking officers in the eye and told them how it was going to be. I didn't get that as a kid, but re-watching all these years later, I see it.
Bones is the perfect example of an officer, never disobeyed an order but if he felt something was wrong he pushed until things were made right
@@ScottyDont1945 That too. Good point.
What are you talking about? When was McCoy place top of the chain of command?
@@cjjonez McCoy has the authority to remove Kirk from his position if he believes that he is mentally unfit.
@@Silverswitch1 that does not make him top of chain of command of the ship.
Damn, Spock sounded straight gangsta beginning at 3:02 when he told McCoy he WAS in command of the Enterprise! Then McCoy clapped back hard and I was like WTF?!? I never cared for this episode so I only watched it a few times, but looking at it now...yeezus! Spock and McCoy were upper-cutting each other like crazy!
Damn! Bones got dead roasted there! How ya like to that Bones?! Serves ya right for showing disloyalty in your career and committing mutiny over your Starfleet leaders! Ya son of a dingle!
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This shall be remembered forever the times each knew what the other is feeling and thinking.
Empathy went out of STYLE with the 21st century universally, apparently, unfortunately. Signing off, some 50-yr-old guy
4:12,😂🤣McCoy really whipped that chair around in anger!
The dynamics between these 2 was something to behold.
These are all from "the Tholian Web" for anyone who was wondering.
"I'm sure the Captain would simply have said: 'Forget it, Bones.'" The way how Spock said what Jim would've said in such a moment is quite endearing, and it goes to show how well he's known Kirk in the few years they've served together in Starfleet. It brings to mind what Spock's adopted sister Michael Burnham said to him: "There's a whole galaxy out there. Full of people who will reach for you. You have to let them. Find that person who seems farthest from you and reach for them." Spock did indeed find that person in Jim, and his words were very logical in this moment when McCoy needed them, with the space madness affecting him and others.
It seems to me that Spock valued Kirk's friendship because Jim accepted and valued Spock for who Spock was more than anyone Spock had known, including other Vulcans, Spock's own parents, and even Spock himself.
All Spock's life, he was being told to be who others thought he should be and shut out by his own father because he wasn't.
But Jim Kirk, for the most part, regarded Spock as more than good enough being Spock.
I've always thought in their own ways that no matter how much they annoyed one another spock and McCoy always regarded each other as friends.
I love how McCoy will stand up for what he thinks is right even if it puts his position at risk when faced with Spock.
Love it
#Spock
#McCoy
#StarTrek
oh spock oh he must be a good husband
Well a woman on Sarpeidon 5000 years before agreed.
Spock and McCoy’s relationship reminds me of a mom and dad relationship because of their arguments and disagreements.
Considering that Vulcan pathology is exempt from fear, I would say they make excellent husbands
They wouldn't rib at a woman's emotional condition, which would probably be the only reason to take offense. They would make provision for it
Women are all about confidence
Sssooooooooo many fanfiction "authors" would agree with you.
Spock and McCoy are husband and wife
It always hurts me to see McCoy yell at Spock in this episode. Kirk is and forever spocks bast friend and to see McCoy telling him what he does is to take command when he is so clearly hurt and worried about Kirk just hurts... how can people on the ship judge Spock for not having emotions when they have so little empathy.
Evven taking the space madness into account, I think McCoy is at least somewhat OOC in this episode.
@@XxiheartsupermanXx I don't think it's that OOC. McCoy has a habit of lashing out when he's stressed or hurting, and Kirks death hit him really hard too. It's the negative aspect of his more emotional approach to things that balances his positive empathic qualities. Combined with the space madness, it's no surprise that he's being erratic here.
Spock has an issue that has always brought him at odds with mccoy, his very calm demeanor. Even in teh most dire circumstance the vulcan pension for logic and focus puts spock at odds with everyone else. Everyone else is use to working through their emotions not hiding them. Vulcans have to control their emotions for it was what lead them to near extinction, a culture reinforced over centuries and centuries. More so for someone who is half-human.
@@KenshiImmortalWolf And that very pension for logic and focus can drive nearby humans slightly bonkers, because it can come across as cold and uncaring. Which it isn't, of course.
Yes. This bothered me considerably, watching McCoy lash out at Spock with accusations that at some level he *must* have known were inaccurate, to say the least. He did his best to redeem himself after they viewed Kirk's final orders, though.
3:46 "You suppose they are seeing Jim because they lost confidence in you?" - what an awesome co-worker, providing positive reinforcement.
Space Madness
After a rough night smoking cigars, the next morning I sound just like McCoy.
I kinda want to see that
Crazy nights were supposed to KILL me. Instead, that's probably why I'm still alive at 50!
@@GuitarMatt 🤪
I love his voice 🧡
Forget it, Bones.
'I am sure the captain would simply have said... forget it bones' aw Spock no
This show was so well written and well acted. The interplay between Kirk, Spock and McCoy was the heart of TOS and something I don't think any of the later Trek series' ever did as well.
I agree. I don't follow all the new iterations of Trek, but I don't think any of them truly capture what TOS did.
Imagine what a total failure many of our presidents would be as a star ship captain
Even with all the cheez the acting is so much better then STD!
You have to keep watching up to Season 2. Ethan Peck and the one who plays Pike are great. So, is the emperor. Love Season 2.
True diplomatic talk. We need this
DK was a heavy in westerns for much of his career. Look up one of his films.
His touch was light and subtle. Star Trek was a 180° .
You can see it in some of McCoy's more intense moments, De's ability to squint his eyes and pull all the air out of the room with tension. He was a great actor 🧡
The shock of Spock apologizing to him caused McCoy to pass out.
I always thought that in the Tholian Web episode, McCoy was completely unfair to Spock. The circumstances clearly showed that Spock was in no way to blame for the predicament they were in.
It was the Tholians who made a bad situation considerably worse, however unintentionally.
He was, but again, he was stressed and *dis*tressed over what he believed to be the death of the captain. Plus the effects of the Tholian space were affecting him.
And also ... McCoy is human, and humans often lash out when their emotions get cranked up. Spock's focus on logic could easily come across, under the circumstances, as cold and callous. Which it wasn't, of course, but in McCoy's state of mind he wasn't in much shape to see that.
@@mnirwin5112 Good points. It occurs to me also that it was never mentioned how the Tholians' hostility might have caused to some degree by the effects of that unstable region of space.
McCoy was completely out of order & many of his dialogue lines seem over the top & just a bit out of character for Bones. But it seems to be a staple that EVERY time Spock is in actual command he gets a pretty hard attack during the episode. Things are said to him & in a fashion NO ONE would have ever considered speaking to Captain Kirk that way. Guess in this episode they decided McCoy would be the one to harang Spock.
3:32 Where have I heard that damn voice line before.... If anyone read this, PLEASE help, it's driving me crazy.
Who ever put this video on here they cut out the best part, When they watch the video of Captin Kirk telling Bones if Spock takes over then Help him and remember he is in charge give him the same respect you give me. That made Bones fell like shit after seeing that, Kirk also told Spock if he needs help to seek out Dr McCoy he always was a help to me- In other works help each other do not act like assholes- Then at the end of this epicode Spock and McCoy both lie to Captin Kirk telling his they never saw the last video of the Captin telling them what to do - Funny i thought Spock couldn't lie? Spock also lied in three other epicode's
An omission.
Lying's not an emotion.
@@x-venturegaming9951 but the reasons that lead a person to lie are.
Why McCoy fainted when Spock called him Bones? Please someone explain me
Sickness from the space they locked into. It was affecting everybody one way or another
It was from the effects of the space that they were trapped in.
He was space drunk.
I like to think he bluescreened from Spock calling him Bones :P
Mccoy has no problem putting Spock down. Sometimes he acts like he hates Spock. He opens his big mouth and tries to make Spock feel guilty or bad about something and tries to eat his words later and apologize.
He shoots from the hip without thinking how cruel and hurtful his words can be. He tries to backtrack and say" I am sorry Spock", the thoughtless cruel words have already been said and heard. You cannot UNRING a bell.
he says the hardest words possible just to break down that armored wall of Spock. He knows that Spock is not for the weak. And between you and me, people who seem to lack an ounce of empathy are annoying.
He's being affected by the Tholian Web in this video. He speaks the truth when he says that he's sorry, and he knows it's nothing that Spock's done, it must be the space getting to him, too. I don't think McCoy realized it was affecting him so much until that moment, when it had strained his body to the point of passing out. But thankfully Spock understood.
Why does Bones almost collapse at 4:41?
1 day in his life, Bones is gonna turn super saiyan and destroy Spock! 💥
Didn't show what Kirk said
0:57
Bones could be such an asshole to Spock
McCoy was @ real putz in this episode
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What episode is the last scene from?
I Dream of Crafting This is the third season episode, The Tholian Web. This is whare the Enterprise came into the Tholian section of the galaxy in serch of and found the USS Defiant which a boarding party went over to asertain the reasons why the ship was disabled and drifting in space. Trivial information also here, the voice over of Comander Loskein was actress Barbra Babcock. The boarding party consited of the Captain, the first officer/science officer Mr. Spock, chief medical officer Dr. McCoy to treat any surviving Defiant crew members, and navigator, ensign Pavel Checkov.
All scenes in this video are from the 3rd Season's episode "The Tholian Web;" including the last scene.
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No one on the planet Earth is not aware of the first star treck.why did they cancel this show ????????
Anyone know which season episode this is?
s3 e9
banter ?
Banter AND friendship.
What episodes are these
The Tholian Web
McCoy was outright mean to Spock sometimes. This episode particularly.
This is a poorly written scene IMO, it's out of character for McCoy to show outright hate and distrust of Spock. This could've been handled way better
Susan A. Thought it is an excellent episode. Yes, it did show a great deal of confrontation between the good Doctor, and the perfectly logical and always unemotional first officer, Mr. Spock, however it also began showing how the good Doctor would eventually come to a mutual agreement with the first officer and began accepting his position as comanding the Enterprise when the Captain was absent. Please note though, that although there was a constant confrontation between the good Doctor and the science officer, second in command, they did have a deep respect for each other's scientigic skills and knowledge, and began to eventually accept each other accordingly.
McCoy is unusually confrontational here, and at times is slightly irrational. But remember that the area they were in tended to have a psychological effect, something the episode touches upon quite often. McCoy was likely affected, and it heightened his temper. I frankly doubt that McCoy would normally have been this distrustful towards Spock.
@@Ares99999 Agreed that he is affected by the space. I think he is also in pain due to the loss of his friend, and so he irrationally accuses Spock of wanting the command of the Enterprise (even if Spock did not choose to leave, which would have guaranteed the command). McCoy doesn’t accept Spock as Captain (not until later in the episode) and he keeps challenging his decisions, because he doesn’t want to accept Kirk’s death.
@@Ares99999 On the other hand, he pushes Spock hard to admit his emotions by asking him why he chose to stay. Spock of course avoids answering directly, which causes McCoy to push even more. Eventually Spock implicitly admits that he is also in pain with his answer: “What would you have me say Doctor?”
@@geso101 I think McCoy might have bipolar. He might've blamed Spock for Kirk's loss even though he was innocent and it wasn't his fault and he didn't have anything to do with it.