I agree with #31. You played into Buffalos strength by passing for a 2pt conversion and with the cold/freezing weather conditions, it made it even more of a risky play call. We brought Derrick Henry to Baltimore just for these types of games and he should’ve been used in that situation and used more in our offensive scheme overall! Buffalo has problems stopping the run. They can be pushed around even though they gave great effort…we were having success running on them. Should’ve worn them down with the run game…just like we did vs Shittsburgh! Yes you can blame Mark for not catching the ball in that situation but I’m firmly on Jamal Lewis side with him saying Andrews shouldn’t have even been in that situation.
The Probowl doesn’t mean anything anymore. They need to make incentives for the players to actually want to go incentives for the team incentive for the players and for the fans to watch nobody wants to sit around and watch them play how far they can throw a tire, etc.
Ok, seeing the coach 12:49 being a kid at heart... perhaps his vast experience will get the defense back to Ravens style! My only thing is how this team will translate their regular season playing into the playoffs and stop beating themselves.
The problem with the PO losses has been the Def has not produced TOs to counter the ones lost by the Off. Any change in this stat that Pagano can produce, will raise the tide that turns all of these close games
I agree with Jamal. The first 2pt conversion was unnecessary. Trust your defense, offense and the roster you've built. One of the Ravens problems is always chasing points when we play in these big moments. Take the approach they did in the second Pittsburgh game and take the points.
Could this move affect Zack Orr’s confidence as well as the players’ respect for him. Mike MacDonald didn’t have immediate success as the Ravens’ defensive coordinator even though he had college Coordinating experience . However, he figured it out and did a great job. It seems like Zack Orr did the same thing. With that being said this could be more about John Harbaugh needing help with his job of managing the 3 Coordinators.
Mark is a captain..dam right he should have been put in that situation..if he can't handle them situations then maybe we need to look elsewhere in the future..
54:09 Sarah, a freezing snow game is NOT the time to be aggressive and/or factor in win probability stats. The offense was rolling the 2nd half. Let def stop Allen and watch Lamar get that FG. I understand Harbs tactics is how they got here but this was literally on a list of the coldest games ever played
I agree with that 2pt attempt but it wasn’t the worst decision. I just believe you can wait because you have to score again anyway. If you want to win so you can wait to go for 2.
Introducing win probability rates into a snow game in Buffalo where the other team were CLEARLY keeping O play calls conservative, should have been a READ THE ROOM moment for Harbs. Freezing snow games are NOT the time for prediction stats
Why are they keeping all these old guys in the Ravens Organization this is ridiculous and saddening, embarrassing. While every other team is getting younger on the coaching staff we can getting older!!!! I hate this buddy buddy situation 🤢
@ where did it get us this year… last year was Mike and he won a Chip in college that’s why we should have hired him as head coach and push John ass up stairs…
What are you talking about? Of the 6 head coaching hires so far only 2 were below the age of 45. And the Ravens literally just hired the 2nd youngest coordinator in 2024 with Orr. They went "older" with Monkin and that turned out pretty well. Hiring young isn't some sure way to get revolutionary success like some fans seem to think. And there is no salary cap for coaches so why not hire in older assistant coaches/advisors who have a wealth of NFL knowledge and experience?
Your take will age poorly. Pagano teaches how to takeaway the ball really well. The Ravens will create TOs in the POs next year. We’ll see whether my take ages badly
The team that is the current dynasty in the NFL has a 66 year old head coach who is at the top of his game and a 65 year old defensive coordinator who is the best in the league at his position, age ain’t nothing been a number.
SON just got over what Bobby’s got it was the flu of pneumonia. They gave him Tamiflu Mucinex, plenty of orange juice and Pedialyte. Get rid of that Gatorade.
Jamal is saying poor risk assessing by the coaching staff. Do not put your team in high risk situations. Simplify the game. There are so many things that can go wrong throwing that 2pt conversion. Power running it is a high chance of success. Take your points.. again chance of winning getting the 1 pt vs chance of winning if you fail the 2pt. The Steelers won all year by taking out the risk. The lions were successful all year running the ball taking out risk. The bills beats us bc they played the safe game of time management. Jamal said essentially what we all have been saying for 2 years... don't beat yourself.
Chuck can help draft & build a better secondary through the draft & trades with us having 11 picks, why is Rivers even on the mountain he has no mvps or rings & made AFC championship once, I want Hamilton to stay deep FS
they gave Henry the ball -1 yd gain. then run a trick play?! tf is that about? just like the Seahawks. everyone would've lived with Henry running it each down at 1/2 yd line.
I respect Jamal Lewis opinion but couldn’t disagree more, Lamar Jackson, best passer in league, Andrew’s is being paid more than Henry rn, so catch the ball. And likely was wide open on first attempt. Good play calls. Also he brought up the turnovers and jumped straight to drop 2 pt and play calling for 2 pt, completely absolving Andrew’s and Jackson’s game changing mistakes. If they don’t put the ball in the bills hands they wouldn’t have had to go for 2 in the first place.
They should fix the pro bowl by just removing players entirely. Only those voted would make the team. Make it a digital experience, call it the Madden Pro Bowl games… where the best Madden players and perhaps even the best Madden players in the NFL (that make the pro bowl) can compete and play a tournament. The winners then play in a simulated televised showdow with the Pro Bowl roster with automatic subs to make sure all players “play in the game”. The players who are in the lineup could be in the room cheering for their “team”… if a player can’t make it, they could film a video thanking the fans and the league… but that video or their appearance at the games would be mandatory. Could keep the skills challenge, so that young players could enjoy having some fun at the evening. Then they could conclude the Pro Bowl week with NFL honors where the awards for the season are handed out… with the pro bowl players all getting a chance to attend- making it more likely for veteran players to attend the event… for the honors awards. So you still have a game played with all the stars… you still have all the top players making an appearance, without the advanced risk of injury.
I promise you if that was eagles in the same situation they would have took there 1 pt both times. Even if they did decide to go for 2 they would put the ball in saquan hands.
What aggravates me it doesn't matter what coach you put on a team how long he been coaching when they don't win it is so easy to find the coaches and blame them if the NFL is not fixed then why are the players not executing and doing their jobs because all the owners in cahoots with the players the referees and the commissioner in the gambling industry and they know who wants to win because they make big money off it they don't care one bit about how the fans spend all their money on them how long as they are making money can you former players and that's a shame did the fans of suffering for greed of money
That’s just hating to think Joe Flacco deserves to be on this list over Josh Allen who has two 2nd team All Pros and a ton of seasons with 40+ TDs. Eli also doesn’t deserve to be above Allen either… in fact, he arguably doesn’t deserve to be on this list of the best quarterbacks, I’d put him on tier 5 but only because of his SB wins over the Pats dynasty at the peak of their power. Also Manning and Mahomes are definitely on the same tier. 5 MVPs, 2 SB rings, 1 SBMVP vs 2 MVPs, 3 SB rings, 3 SBMVPs; as it stands they both have 8 overall accolades of note. Throw in the fact that Manning has 7 first team AP finishes, which ties him with names like Ray Lewis, Mike Singletary, Otto Graham, etc for 14th in history… all of those in this century. Add in the record for most passing yards and TDs in a season… same tier absolutely. Mahomes I think should be above Manning all time, but they’re on the same tier with Montana. Beyond that Warner doesn’t deserve to be on the same tier as Rodgers and Brees, respectfully. He’s got 2 MVPs and a SB ring with only 4 PBs and then some bad years where he wasn’t nearly that great; Rodgers has 4 MVPs, 10 PBs and Brees has 2 OPOYs and 13 PBs with both also having rings. That spot is what should be blank… Lamar being the closest to that particular tier with a ring and longevity being the only obstacle. Warner belongs on the same tier as Big Ben, Lamar, and Josh Allen… Stafford with 2 PBs and 1 ring definitely does not belong on that tier and it’s disrespectful to have him there. If anything Stafford doesn’t even belong to be on this list. He didn’t do enough to stand out over Ryan, didn’t have the legendary moments of Eli, had less accolades than Russ, and less peak success than Cam. Joe Burrow would be the honorable mention that if/when Lamar moves up to tier 3, he’d slot into tier 5.
The pro bowl it's a waste of people time who wants to watch touch football do you need NFL is might as well saying they're playing touch football because the defense can't do anything and it's all about greed everyone that's involved in the NFL and they don't care about the people who pay the money to watch the games go to the games and that's really really sad
I think the Ravens should bring back OBJ.. He is not what he use to be but a good veteran with mad skills. I think he has strong leadership in the locker room as well and can help us win the SB.. At the end of the season when we go into the playoffs we need a someone with that determination to win.. Just think he would be a great addition to the Wide receiver room.. plus the folks there already know him and respect him.. I think it’s a win win for the Ravens.. Understand this …. there are no more excuses for the Ravens.. We must win the superbowl in 2025- 2026.. season.. We can’t have another wait and see.. it starts now.. 💜💜💜💜💜
1:03:00 ridiculous. No Michael Vick? Lamar is better than all of third tier. It’s wild that Big Ben, Stafford, Rivers and Ryan are better than Michael Vick lol! Andrew Luck also is probably above Ryan!! This is big 🧢
Why are they keeping all these old guys in the Ravens Organization this is ridiculous and saddening, embarrassing. While every other team is getting younger on the coaching staff we can getting older!!!!
Sarah, Bobby! You're overthinking it. You are to close to the game.. if your channel was not successful... when asked everyone says you beat yourselves or your your own worst enemy. What would that mean?? It would never mean you made a bad thumbnail, or you weren't entertaining, or you weren't discussing the right topics. It always means poor execution, poor planning. That points the finger at coaching
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I agree with #31. You played into Buffalos strength by passing for a 2pt conversion and with the cold/freezing weather conditions, it made it even more of a risky play call. We brought Derrick Henry to Baltimore just for these types of games and he should’ve been used in that situation and used more in our offensive scheme overall! Buffalo has problems stopping the run. They can be pushed around even though they gave great effort…we were having success running on them. Should’ve worn them down with the run game…just like we did vs Shittsburgh! Yes you can blame Mark for not catching the ball in that situation but I’m firmly on Jamal Lewis side with him saying Andrews shouldn’t have even been in that situation.
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Not only will we not be a 32nd ranked defense Chuck will be in that draft process for another CB or Safety pick!
The Probowl doesn’t mean anything anymore. They need to make incentives for the players to actually want to go incentives for the team incentive for the players and for the fans to watch nobody wants to sit around and watch them play how far they can throw a tire, etc.
Was at the buffalo game too, and am just now feeling 90% recovered ! Get some rest Bobby!!!
Let’s go Bobby!!! Juice up! 💪🏾
Good to see you back Bobby 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Welcome back Bobby!
Good play he was wide open..
Chuck must’ve needed his prescription changed when he said Brandon Stephens is playing his butt off. 😂
There’s a reason BSteve was a starter. He rarely got burned. His problem was turning to locate the ball.
Welcome back Bobby
Bobby!!!!! Glad you are feeling better
Ok, seeing the coach 12:49 being a kid at heart... perhaps his vast experience will get the defense back to Ravens style!
My only thing is how this team will translate their regular season playing into the playoffs and stop beating themselves.
The problem with the PO losses has been the Def has not produced TOs to counter the ones lost by the Off. Any change in this stat that Pagano can produce, will raise the tide that turns all of these close games
I agree with Jamal. The first 2pt conversion was unnecessary. Trust your defense, offense and the roster you've built. One of the Ravens problems is always chasing points when we play in these big moments. Take the approach they did in the second Pittsburgh game and take the points.
Could this move affect Zack Orr’s confidence as well as the players’ respect for him. Mike MacDonald didn’t have immediate success as the Ravens’ defensive coordinator even though he had college Coordinating experience . However, he figured it out and did a great job. It seems like Zack Orr did the same thing. With that being said this could be more about John Harbaugh needing help with his job of managing the 3 Coordinators.
Zach knows Chuck
Mark is a captain..dam right he should have been put in that situation..if he can't handle them situations then maybe we need to look elsewhere in the future..
Nope. Too many failed attempts. Next time, he either blocks or creates a distraction but he can’t get the ball anymore on 2pt conversions
54:09 Sarah, a freezing snow game is NOT the time to be aggressive and/or factor in win probability stats. The offense was rolling the 2nd half. Let def stop Allen and watch Lamar get that FG. I understand Harbs tactics is how they got here but this was literally on a list of the coldest games ever played
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I agree with that 2pt attempt but it wasn’t the worst decision. I just believe you can wait because you have to score again anyway. If you want to win so you can wait to go for 2.
Introducing win probability rates into a snow game in Buffalo where the other team were CLEARLY keeping O play calls conservative, should have been a READ THE ROOM moment for Harbs. Freezing snow games are NOT the time for prediction stats
Why are they keeping all these old guys in the Ravens Organization this is ridiculous and saddening, embarrassing. While every other team is getting younger on the coaching staff we can getting older!!!! I hate this buddy buddy situation 🤢
We have a 30 something year old dc who replaced out 30 something y/o dc last year.
@ where did it get us this year… last year was Mike and he won a Chip in college that’s why we should have hired him as head coach and push John ass up stairs…
What are you talking about? Of the 6 head coaching hires so far only 2 were below the age of 45. And the Ravens literally just hired the 2nd youngest coordinator in 2024 with Orr. They went "older" with Monkin and that turned out pretty well. Hiring young isn't some sure way to get revolutionary success like some fans seem to think.
And there is no salary cap for coaches so why not hire in older assistant coaches/advisors who have a wealth of NFL knowledge and experience?
Your take will age poorly. Pagano teaches how to takeaway the ball really well.
The Ravens will create TOs in the POs next year.
We’ll see whether my take ages badly
The team that is the current dynasty in the NFL has a 66 year old head coach who is at the top of his game and a 65 year old defensive coordinator who is the best in the league at his position, age ain’t nothing been a number.
So glad to see you Bobby full recovery in Jesus name
Bobby B!!!
SON just got over what Bobby’s got it was the flu of pneumonia. They gave him Tamiflu Mucinex, plenty of orange juice and Pedialyte. Get rid of that Gatorade.
You need to get that Airborne brotha. It’ll save your life.
So glad I got the flu shot at my physical... ouch!
Might have watched it if Lamar went.. But now not watching at all
So your saying that's a chance!!!!
Jamal is saying poor risk assessing by the coaching staff. Do not put your team in high risk situations. Simplify the game. There are so many things that can go wrong throwing that 2pt conversion. Power running it is a high chance of success. Take your points.. again chance of winning getting the 1 pt vs chance of winning if you fail the 2pt. The Steelers won all year by taking out the risk. The lions were successful all year running the ball taking out risk. The bills beats us bc they played the safe game of time management. Jamal said essentially what we all have been saying for 2 years... don't beat yourself.
Chuck can help draft & build a better secondary through the draft & trades with us having 11 picks, why is Rivers even on the mountain he has no mvps or rings & made AFC championship once, I want Hamilton to stay deep FS
they gave Henry the ball -1 yd gain. then run a trick play?! tf is that about?
they gave Henry the ball -1 yd gain. then run a trick play?! tf is that about?
just like the Seahawks. everyone would've lived with Henry running it each down at 1/2 yd line.
I respect Jamal Lewis opinion but couldn’t disagree more, Lamar Jackson, best passer in league, Andrew’s is being paid more than Henry rn, so catch the ball. And likely was wide open on first attempt. Good play calls.
Also he brought up the turnovers and jumped straight to drop 2 pt and play calling for 2 pt, completely absolving Andrew’s and Jackson’s game changing mistakes. If they don’t put the ball in the bills hands they wouldn’t have had to go for 2 in the first place.
They should fix the pro bowl by just removing players entirely. Only those voted would make the team.
Make it a digital experience, call it the Madden Pro Bowl games… where the best Madden players and perhaps even the best Madden players in the NFL (that make the pro bowl) can compete and play a tournament.
The winners then play in a simulated televised showdow with the Pro Bowl roster with automatic subs to make sure all players “play in the game”. The players who are in the lineup could be in the room cheering for their “team”… if a player can’t make it, they could film a video thanking the fans and the league… but that video or their appearance at the games would be mandatory.
Could keep the skills challenge, so that young players could enjoy having some fun at the evening.
Then they could conclude the Pro Bowl week with NFL honors where the awards for the season are handed out… with the pro bowl players all getting a chance to attend- making it more likely for veteran players to attend the event… for the honors awards.
So you still have a game played with all the stars… you still have all the top players making an appearance, without the advanced risk of injury.
I promise you if that was eagles in the same situation they would have took there 1 pt both times. Even if they did decide to go for 2 they would put the ball in saquan hands.
What aggravates me it doesn't matter what coach you put on a team how long he been coaching when they don't win it is so easy to find the coaches and blame them if the NFL is not fixed then why are the players not executing and doing their jobs because all the owners in cahoots with the players the referees and the commissioner in the gambling industry and they know who wants to win because they make big money off it they don't care one bit about how the fans spend all their money on them how long as they are making money can you former players and that's a shame did the fans of suffering for greed of money
Why isn't Joe Montana on this list. He has 4 SB rings
That’s just hating to think Joe Flacco deserves to be on this list over Josh Allen who has two 2nd team All Pros and a ton of seasons with 40+ TDs.
Eli also doesn’t deserve to be above Allen either… in fact, he arguably doesn’t deserve to be on this list of the best quarterbacks, I’d put him on tier 5 but only because of his SB wins over the Pats dynasty at the peak of their power.
Also Manning and Mahomes are definitely on the same tier. 5 MVPs, 2 SB rings, 1 SBMVP vs 2 MVPs, 3 SB rings, 3 SBMVPs; as it stands they both have 8 overall accolades of note. Throw in the fact that Manning has 7 first team AP finishes, which ties him with names like Ray Lewis, Mike Singletary, Otto Graham, etc for 14th in history… all of those in this century. Add in the record for most passing yards and TDs in a season… same tier absolutely. Mahomes I think should be above Manning all time, but they’re on the same tier with Montana.
Beyond that Warner doesn’t deserve to be on the same tier as Rodgers and Brees, respectfully. He’s got 2 MVPs and a SB ring with only 4 PBs and then some bad years where he wasn’t nearly that great; Rodgers has 4 MVPs, 10 PBs and Brees has 2 OPOYs and 13 PBs with both also having rings. That spot is what should be blank… Lamar being the closest to that particular tier with a ring and longevity being the only obstacle.
Warner belongs on the same tier as Big Ben, Lamar, and Josh Allen… Stafford with 2 PBs and 1 ring definitely does not belong on that tier and it’s disrespectful to have him there. If anything Stafford doesn’t even belong to be on this list. He didn’t do enough to stand out over Ryan, didn’t have the legendary moments of Eli, had less accolades than Russ, and less peak success than Cam.
Joe Burrow would be the honorable mention that if/when Lamar moves up to tier 3, he’d slot into tier 5.
The pro bowl it's a waste of people time who wants to watch touch football do you need NFL is might as well saying they're playing touch football because the defense can't do anything and it's all about greed everyone that's involved in the NFL and they don't care about the people who pay the money to watch the games go to the games and that's really really sad
I think the Ravens should bring back OBJ.. He is not what he use to be but a good veteran with mad skills. I think he has strong leadership in the locker room as well and can help us win the SB.. At the end of the season when we go into the playoffs we need a someone with that determination to win.. Just think he would be a great addition to the Wide receiver room.. plus the folks there already know him and respect him.. I think it’s a win win for the Ravens.. Understand this …. there are no more excuses for the Ravens.. We must win the superbowl in 2025- 2026.. season.. We can’t have another wait and see.. it starts now.. 💜💜💜💜💜
He was hurt more than he helped and OBJ will want too much money. The experiment didn’t work the first time!
1:03:00 ridiculous. No Michael Vick? Lamar is better than all of third tier.
It’s wild that Big Ben, Stafford, Rivers and Ryan are better than Michael Vick lol! Andrew Luck also is probably above Ryan!! This is big 🧢
Why are they keeping all these old guys in the Ravens Organization this is ridiculous and saddening, embarrassing. While every other team is getting younger on the coaching staff we can getting older!!!!
Do you know how old Andy Reid and Steve Spags are? How about how old Belichick was?
Bobby sounds kinda hot when he's sick 🫢
Sarah, Bobby! You're overthinking it. You are to close to the game.. if your channel was not successful... when asked everyone says you beat yourselves or your your own worst enemy. What would that mean?? It would never mean you made a bad thumbnail, or you weren't entertaining, or you weren't discussing the right topics. It always means poor execution, poor planning. That points the finger at coaching
Sarah says some dumb shh. Peyton manning was great.
Coach Harbs is so lazy. SMH...change is required ASAP!
Your take is lazy