Wang was originally a cpen player, and was asked to be the RSM clone for CNT, so he switched. Also, he almost won against Ma Lin in the CNT Trials, which was to decide who goes to the WTTC. He was leading 10-3, but lost the game. After many years, he switched back because he no longer needs to be the RSM clone.
Wang Jian Jun used c-pen first, but switched to j-pen for some years to imitate Ryu Seung Min in training after he won the Olympics. Later, he switched back to the chinese style
tubeist- dan Yes, very powerful backhand, though I'd say it can be really hard to use such type of bh attack consistently - the wrist motion is so uneasy
I agree it can be difficult for the wrist of players of Wang's height, but even there, what a _stunning_ shot is possible. I played in the 70's when there were lots of penholders, and saw such shots; but very few of them then, and fewer now, actually train to amplify and perfect the bh as a deadly point-winner. For Ryu, taller, the shot is quite easy, but neither did he want to work on it. It is in the blood for a trad. ph to look for the forehand shot. People and coaches just have to change their thinking.
Hey man love your work. I think you should do a tribute to will bayley next and give the para game some recognition. Love the video btw keep up the good work!!
Sensacional !!!!!! O cara é fera, muito bom, tem um backhand forte e seguro além do seu jogo ser bem ofensivo e consistente, é difícil ver um asiático com a pegada caneta, é do mesmo jeito que eu jogo... vou me espelhar nesse cara, é muito bom,.. gostaria de receber mais vídeos dele e usá-los como fonte de pesquisa e treino...
Se quiser usar de pesquisa de treino o estilo caneta chinesa (classineta no Brasil) recomendo também usar de pesquisa o Xu Xin, MA Lin e Wang Hao, e se for o caneta japonesa (tradicional) Kim Taek Soo, Cazuo Matsumoto e Ryu Seung Min
He could be something is he was not be trained as a clone of Ryu for coaching ML, WH at the time etc by CNT... But I do have to say his Jpen experience makes his games really fun to watch
Jpen can perform RPB too, the main difference is Jpen focus more on power, Cpen focus more on spin take a look in the following video th-cam.com/video/XJAHC5UGdes/w-d-xo.html
Christoph Grambach He's using a Japanese style blade with the traditional backhand in the first part of the video. In the second part, he's using a Chinese style blade with rubber on both sides, so he can perform RPB (Reverse Penhold Backhand).
I don't understand what makes people think Jpen can't perform RPB, Jpen can perform RPB too, the main difference is Jpen focus more on power, Cpen focus more on spin take a look at the following video th-cam.com/video/XJAHC5UGdes/w-d-xo.html
Yes, it is not as agile as Cpen, but for a different reason. When having rubber on the RPB side on Jpen, we still rest the fingers on the blade, not on the rubber. And consider we usually rest our fingers on the rubber on Cpen, the total thicknesses are about the same. Also, Jpen are generally taller but also narrower, so the size is about the same. The main difference is that the center of mass is more towards the end of the bat on Jpen, and that's what makes the Jpen not as flexible as Cpen and harder to stabilise the bat angle.
C-pen has the shortest of all blade handles but the blade is round just like a shake hand blade. Some penholders put another rubber with different color (by rule) to the other side for reverse penhold backhand (RPB) playing style to upgrade/improve/reinforce their backhand performance.
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Top 8 TT can you do kokiniwa
Top 8 TT
What makes him one of the kind is his amazing footwork, probably on par with RSM.
超喜歡看王建軍打球~
直拍全場跳躍奔跑.
套一句廣告台詞.他就是,~
勁量電池.永遠不會累,！
只可惜他與馬琳的決賽.
被超大逆轉而敗北...
0:30 Ryu ‘s iconic move!
he was trained to mimic ryu as much as possible so the chinese players players could have practice against him
@@jrk1666 lmfao no don’t talk from your ass and spread wrong info
Wang was originally a cpen player, and was asked to be the RSM clone for CNT, so he switched. Also, he almost won against Ma Lin in the CNT Trials, which was to decide who goes to the WTTC. He was leading 10-3, but lost the game. After many years, he switched back because he no longer needs to be the RSM clone.
Wang Jian Jun used c-pen first, but switched to j-pen for some years to imitate Ryu Seung Min in training after he won the Olympics. Later, he switched back to the chinese style
是的。不过王建军的打法和特点确实有点像韩国日选手。他是我非常喜欢的一个球手，也曾经打进过全国锦标赛男单决赛，要知道中国全国锦标赛的技术水平不会比世锦赛差。
王建军跑得是最快的。
He's a Ryu clone for CNT
4:15
That was purely cold-blooded shot
And 2:05. It illustrates my claim that traditional one-side is quite suitable for bh attack. They just stopped developing it.
tubeist- dan Yes, very powerful backhand, though I'd say it can be really hard to use such type of bh attack consistently - the wrist motion is so uneasy
I agree it can be difficult for the wrist of players of Wang's height, but even there, what a _stunning_ shot is possible. I played in the 70's when there were lots of penholders, and saw such shots; but very few of them then, and fewer now, actually train to amplify and perfect the bh as a deadly point-winner.
For Ryu, taller, the shot is quite easy, but neither did he want to work on it. It is in the blood for a trad. ph to look for the forehand shot. People and coaches just have to change their thinking.
Great job. I subscribed today. He exemplifies the saying "speed kills". Like the way he mixes traditional penhold backhand and rpb.
Pretty awesome to watch. He still plays like a single sided penholder though IMO. Even with cpen.
Hey man love your work. I think you should do a tribute to will bayley next and give the para game some recognition. Love the video btw keep up the good work!!
Thank you for a suggestion and for watching!
Sensacional !!!!!! O cara é fera, muito bom, tem um backhand forte e seguro além do seu jogo ser bem ofensivo e consistente, é difícil ver um asiático com a pegada caneta, é do mesmo jeito que eu jogo... vou me espelhar nesse cara, é muito bom,.. gostaria de receber mais vídeos dele e usá-los como fonte de pesquisa e treino...
Se quiser usar de pesquisa de treino o estilo caneta chinesa (classineta no Brasil) recomendo também usar de pesquisa o Xu Xin, MA Lin e Wang Hao, e se for o caneta japonesa (tradicional) Kim Taek Soo, Cazuo Matsumoto e Ryu Seung Min
this guy has very good footwork. i honestly prefer his Jpen
4:30 thug life
Nice player this WJJ !
Thx for the vid !
He could be something is he was not be trained as a clone of Ryu for coaching ML, WH at the time etc by CNT... But I do have to say his Jpen experience makes his games really fun to watch
Absolute legend
Thank you 8TT for introducing such a player. Why Wang switch to C-pen?
Yong-Hao Tan so he can perform RPB.
He was C-pen player originally. He switched to J-pen for being Ryu clone for CNT.
龙梓焱 nice
Jpen can perform RPB too, the main difference is Jpen focus more on power, Cpen focus more on spin
take a look in the following video
th-cam.com/video/XJAHC5UGdes/w-d-xo.html
Hin5525 m
the title is wrong
wang jianjun is from c-pen to j-pen then go back to c-pen
good idea! I don't see him for a while. is he still active?
no
Yes, he's still playing, but his ranking is well out of the top 100 now.
I like his playing~
now he s coaching CNT juniors
All he needed was a chance to play in the international games.
It sure helps to have great foot work. I would call it reverse c-pen. Like Ma Lin, he sometimes resorts to a reverse shot.
You mean the Traditional Penhold Backhand?
Hitting sound is good
Cpen but not much RPB. An amusing player, tho! Gotta love penholders!
i cant believe i only knew him now
Can you do koki niwa?
王子手感唔好之出奇
好可惜，王建軍和柳承敏從沒有對上，否則一定很精彩。
Even his movement still very Jpen when use Cpen
잔발 최고다
genius player, but i don understand,what the differnece in the theme? can anybody help me to understand? TY
Christoph Grambach He's using a Japanese style blade with the traditional backhand in the first part of the video. In the second part, he's using a Chinese style blade with rubber on both sides, so he can perform RPB (Reverse Penhold Backhand).
ah ,ok i get it :), many thanks
I don't understand what makes people think Jpen can't perform RPB, Jpen can perform RPB too, the main difference is Jpen focus more on power, Cpen focus more on spin
take a look at the following video
th-cam.com/video/XJAHC5UGdes/w-d-xo.html
@@Hin-yi6gw Jpen paddle is quite thick and big so it is not as agile as Cpen in changing hand gestures.
Yes, it is not as agile as Cpen, but for a different reason. When having rubber on the RPB side on Jpen, we still rest the fingers on the blade, not on the rubber. And consider we usually rest our fingers on the rubber on Cpen, the total thicknesses are about the same. Also, Jpen are generally taller but also narrower, so the size is about the same. The main difference is that the center of mass is more towards the end of the bat on Jpen, and that's what makes the Jpen not as flexible as Cpen and harder to stabilise the bat angle.
Jugaba mejor cuando era un pen hold clásico. 😔
왕지엔준을 응원합니다
which c-pen blade + rubber?
C-pen has the shortest of all blade handles but the blade is round just like a shake hand blade. Some penholders put another rubber with different color (by rule) to the other side for reverse penhold backhand (RPB) playing style to upgrade/improve/reinforce their backhand performance.
Hannes Mühlenbecker yourwifeonme brand, go get them
i am try
この方の最高世界ランクは何位ですか？
世界のステージで出るチャンスがなかったと思います。まぁ、中国人だから、しょうがないですよね。(日本語が悪い、ごめん)。
Kai Zhang 大丈夫です👍ちゃんと理解できました！
da wn 中国の選手のため、韓国の柳承敏ryu seung minを真似るから、国際試合が出なかった。
そうです。王選手はそのため、Ｂチームに入りました。ちなみに、Bチームのメンバーは国際試合が出ません。
平成18年、全国大会のファイナルで出ました。馬琳選手に倒したけど。
I see a single RPB.
Didn't know blind people could watched youtube
中国選手で日ペンは珍しいね。
今じゃあ、まず見ないタイプの選手かなー
極權體制底下誕生的影子球員，可悲可嘆…但他甘願犧牲自己、模仿韓國選手打法，成為主力的靶子對手，還是該給予敬佩
They should create a separate league with celluloid balls and speed glue...
Christian Adrian Aniceta yeah! it was so cool before...
Only if it's the 38mm
Ryu Seung Min during Athens Olympics (40 mm celluloid ) and speed glue is the best
yes
Someone should make a separate federation like that to compete with ITTF.
Wanj Jian cambió su técnica de revés, pasó paso del clásico, como Kim Taek, a hacerlo como Wang Hao. Qué lástima!
......
中国だからこれだけの実力持った選手になったんだが、同時に中国選手だったから国際大会には出れず。
何とも惜しい。
多分だが若いころのニッペンの時 (ユスンミン選手のコピー選手時代) が一番強かったんだろうな。