Safest Way to Play Craps
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Jeremy, let us know how this works out on your next cruise.
I've run something similar to this and you really nailed the use case for it in this video. I've run it through Wincraps a bunch and over thousands of rolls it falls behind a full-odds strategy pretty heavily, but if you're looking for a short-term thing to run for comps, or just be able to hang around a table for a long time and soak up free drinks while still having decent action, this is a nice, low pressure strategy. Also very good for times when you have to play a little short-stacked -- weekend in Vegas on the Strip, no tables available under $25 minimum and I don't have the bankroll to play Molly with full odds at that level, working a little hedge strategy like this is a good time.
Boarded Navigator of the Seas today for a short 3 night sailing. Testing out the strategy.
Session 1: I played at the $50 level and earned 173 points in 1 hour and 2 minutes. After an hour I was down $50 or 1 Unit. (Not including tips, don’t include that in my wins/loss.
Session 2: I played at the $100 level for only 18 minutes and went on a good streak, went up $1000 or 10 units and walked away. I managed to earn 97 points in 17 minutes as well.
This is definitely not a normal or expected result but I do look forward to testing this strategy more this weekend!
Id be happy with 173 points per hour at the $50 level. Thanks for the real world feedback.
Thx Jeremy for rolling this Wizard of Odds strategy out. Helpful and useful to me for sure. Here’s why: First I’m Always looking for low vol no matter what. My logic is that all strategies go up and down. So this one is great for getting off after your in the win column. Such as when you rolled 5 or 6 sevens in a row. I’d have quit there and been satisfied with the profit. And since my win goal with low vol strategy is only 10 to 20 percent, I’d play this to try to win a little, build a bankroll and increase my comps. Yep a winner strategy for a guy like me all around. And I can cope and deal with small losses when they happen. Because they WILL happen too!
LOVE LOVE your videos Thank you
Alex Kim would love you with these rolls. Hopping sevens 😆
Classic Color Up video.
Here's a strat with big win potential.
Jeremy: loses half his bankroll
Here's a strat where you shouldn't win or lose
Jeremy: wins 38% 😂
As someone who doesn't get to play often, your videos are so helpful!!! Thank you!!!
Glad to hear
Love this strategy! I used it this weekend in a small casino in WA. $5 table, got a lot of looks only playing with green chips, ($50 bets). Small win, but hours of fun. I'll use this on my next Vegas trip!
Love to see how this compares to the All Day strategy
Great video thanks. Would you put odds on the pass line bet?
This could be a good cruise strategy.
Don't like this strategy because the Come bets will knock down the DC bets (as shown in the video). WOO may be a good mathematician, but he is not a good strategist.
love the start to this one!
Ikr! What a roll series!
On PSO , both DP and COME bet win , if you shift that way for alternation .
True. But if starting on pass line you can get multiple wins which is more likely.
Anyone else find that virtual craps options roll crap out numbers wayyy more often?
+15 units! Positive variance is a beautiful thing.
I would think that if you start on the DP, then your next bet would be in the Come, not the DC.
Exactly. And in this case, the PSO wins both bets.
Jeremy.
Thank you, I used this method at Fremont on a $15 table and rolled 38 times and made everybody lots of colors on their rake.
Got a free hat out of it
Yeah, it's a nice strategy like you said for getting rated, but I would MUCH rather play to win!
Hey @color up.. I have a question.. when you talk about seeing how they are rating you to determine your bet size... how exactly do you get that information? Do you ask them, or just ask for comps and see what they say?
Thanks for all of your videos.
@@arkansasalex7288 Good question!
@arkansasalex7288 one way to ask the pit boss "what's my average bet" That with length of play determines how much comes you'll get. If they are saying your avg is less than your actual bets, call them out on it
this might be a great strat to use on a choppy table while you wait for it to smooth out
Compare to Light in Dark for winning a cruise.
man... i wish i saw some of the rolls you get here... the last 3 trips to the craps tables and i didnt see a roll over 6. Tried going to the dark side and would get sniped... Tables in cleveland are cursed.
I'll be seeing you at the bubble crap machine with this.
Love the bubble craps! A cheap way to try different strategies
I stay away from "Random rollers"
I think this is a pretty good strat for when you're trying to wait until the dice are in your hand again. Very simple and pretty decent for a choppy table. Though id play an ATS with it cause ya never know when someone hits it big.
Also gives you a little more excitement cause... its definitely a boring strategy lol.
I like the time and comps. Gets my free rooms. At Dicecon 24, i had 5 nights comped and a free bet and meal.
Think we need to do this at the Pechanga tables Mike.
now we need an any video with all them big red rolls.
along with this strategy, would you put $25 on the field and horn bet to increase winnings? I am trying to learn how to get better. Thank you for the helpful video.
No. This strategy is about being safe and low risk with low house edge. Horn bet and field bet are high house edge and high risk.
@@gothicblacktears99 Field bets and horn bets can cause you to win or lose a lot of money very quickly.
Thank you I appreciate the advice
I prefer safe ways that don’t put distance between the player and potentially life changing wins.
Jay Ar, I have high regard for your perspectives on the game. I relate to your proven classic approach and articulate comments. Just a chance to give some appreciation. Thanks.
If you want life changing wins you gotta bet life ruining money lol
How do you see “how they rate” you?
I know you’ve compared side by side some strategies to “the standard”… but I’d also enjoy seeing very low volatility strats like this vs a super aggressive strategy
However, I know that’d be a lot of work for you running two strategies in one video😅
At the end of every video I show comparisons with other strategies using dicer.io
@colorup. Seems very similar to the Arnold I saw on Waylon’s Way channel. Expect he does one DC then continuous Comes and the bets are different in the DC than P/DP. He has several vids. I am most curious to compare the pass line Arnold to the don’t pass Arnold side by side.
One of the he hedges with the lay 4 or 10 intermittently.
Yeah, this hedgehog pre dates the Arnold. But there are many strats that are very similar with some tweaks. Nothing new under the sun.
@@ColorUp got it. Great vid. I look forward to trying one of these when I finally get back to LV in the fall
Would you every consider revisiting this system expect starting on the "Don"t Pass"?
Prolly has very little effect, but would put you in better position in case of the point seven out roll sequence. Which loses both units starting on pass, but would break even if starting on don’t. I think the wizard shows the math both ways
It doesn't work at all. Even mathematically total loss all the time. Don't waste your time and money.
Similar to the doey don't written by Frank scobolete
My method is very safe: #1) start off at a $5 table. Ellis Island has one. Buy in $200. #2) you'll be playing the dark side. #3) $5 Don't pass for the come out; then lay bet $30 for a "No" 6 or 8 to defend against a 7. #4) once a point is established, yank the lay bet, then add minimum lay odds. That's it. It's a long grind, especially "no" 6 or 8 for every come out, then bringing it down after a point is established. As your bank increases lay more odds and/or increase your "no" 6/8 lay. After winning $300, which may take several hours, the player can migrate to a $25 table on the strip. Use the above bet plan only using larger bets. Good luck... All the tight players (El Cortez, Plaza, Ellis Island, Jokers Wild) play this way. Caveat: do not start at a $25 table; start at a $5 table. Be patient. Play tight.
That table at Jokers Wild is a memory, gone since COVID-more’s the pity.
But if point is gonna be 6 or 8 and and then repeat the 6 or 8 as winner…..is gonna be hard to recover….
@@gianlucavannutelli7220his bet sizing of lay $30 6 or 8 was too high. If you had a $5 DP you would only need to lay the 6 or 8 for $7. With this strategy I would probably start with $10 DP with $7/7 lay 6 & 8
I play something similar to this but on bubble craps. The pace is way way way faster and you can accumulate a couple hundred dollars in like an hour rather then a few. The only caveat here is you only get 2:1 on your odds bet.
I generally play the don't and back up my bet by hopping the seven combinations and play the 11 in the horn on the come out. You don't make as much once a number is established but you don't take a whack right away if the table gets hot and 7s and 11 are popping like the beginning of this video. Sometimes I don't even do it after I've been grinding for a while. I gotta really cold take last night and turned $100 into $750 in a few hours.
Now they're we're a few players who got hot and were making a lot of rolls with no 7s coming later on so all you do is check the scene and go with your gut but because I play the dark side, I just pull all my bets when I see that happening. Has 1 guy in so those hours hit 4 points in a row and could have been devastating but I played reserved. I also had made so much I started gambling a little and placing the 6-8 and made some money that way too
I don't know how you play the game at all, to be honest.
With a full table, I will loose track of a DP or Come B.
And so will the dealers!
The standard for the win again
Was that 9 "working" when the puck was off at about the 7 minute mark? Should ie be working or not?
Don’t pass/come and lay bets are always working.
Come bets are also always working, but come bet odds follow the on/off puck
I think I would rather start on the DP and go to the Come, I hate to lose on a PSO
I think wizard did math both ways…made insignificant difference
Crappy did this a while back.
Good strat when I'm killing time waiting for husband to get off the bacc table 😂
The only really safe way to play to never lose money is to... never play... But where is the fun in that?!
So play with money you afford to lose. And then STOP. And use a strategy you have fun with!
One of your better vids.
How can I submit a strategy? I have a good one that I've simulated watching over 20 of these videos with all the live rolls, not a high roller strategy but you can bump up the units to make it a higher payout
Dice advice form on my website www.colorup.club
@@ColorUp thank you, (love the channel!)
Every video he makes he has dice off the table. Was it too hard to put up side walls?
Crazy right? Ruins whole video! Dice go off table, it’s part of the game.
@ColorUp dice fly off the table with most every shooter. Even I have thrown both off the table. It's a minor pause compared to someone buying in with the puck on!
Yep, you need to make $100 bets to earn a decent rating.
You considering using this on your next cruise?
For sure. I’ll test and see how I’m rated. And if good enough, I’ll just put in the hours at the table.
@@ColorUp When is your next cruise? I have 2 cruises coming up. I'll try it for at least 1 session on each ship and see how they rate it. I'll post results on the 19th
I would prefer to play don't pass-pass-don't come because on a PSO, I would win two units rather than lose two units. Wanna really have fun? Take and lay max odds on each bet.
Nice win though!
good vid
I cannot believe this channel still exists!
If you like watching paint dry this is the strategy for you. lol😂😂😂
Craps!
Yes, this game IS called craps!
And what we all say at a cold table!
Crap ... sss... 😊
I'm sorry, you're wrong. The safest betting strategy in craps is to not bet at all. Granted you won't get rated very much, if at all, but you're guaranteed to leave the casino with all the gambling money you walked in with, so long as you don't gamble anywhere else, either. Please accept this free advice from an army of poor former casino dealers like myself who learned this strategy the hard way.
😒 silly, of course no risk if not playing. I’m suggesting the safest way to “play” not safest way to sit at home. Gambling is for entertainment purposes with money you can afford to lose. Otherwise, sure, stay home.
@@ColorUp I apologize, I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well via text.
So I dont play craps but want to start you explained this well however I'm still confused (mainly inexperience)
Edit: i rewatched this and now the only thing i dont understsnd is why we went on the dont pass bar at one point
AHH YES THE SAFEST WAY- DONT. HAHAH I MEAN DONT PLAY AHAHAHAH 😋
This is totally dumb! The guy telling you this doesn't even play like this. They keep selling these dumbs systems that don't work to get views. They make more money off the videos then the actual game and i'll challenge anyone of them for a live showcase.
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