Great advice on buying plants in drifts. . I have fallen into the same trap, only to be disappointed . So many gardeners advise to buy at least 3 plants of the same kind. I have learned the hard way. I buy one ,try it out and then if successful I will either buy more of the same plant, or even better propogate by division or from volunteers of the mother plant. I am new to your channel, but am loving the honest advice you give. Plants are expensive , and not everyone can get freebies from sponsors!
Yes that’s exactly how I feel! Plants are expensive and getting more expensive every year (like everything else) - I 100% do the same thing as you - sometimes divide if it’s something that grows rapidly - otherwise I’ll save up for a drift the following season. I’m lucky and will sometimes get plants to trial too - but otherwise it’s a huge investment and I think trialing first with 1 is they smartest way to go about it.
Thank you for bringing to light the plants that most of us are spending money on over and over again only to watch them fail.If you notice most garden videos in which the plant you mention survive or thrive have drip irrigation that I think is the defining factor ,most of us don’t and won’t .
EXACTLY!!! One day I might pull the trigger and get drip.... but honestly... that's not something in the cards right now... and while I KNOW it will make my garden perform 10X better than it does... I just can't justify it now. I totally know what you mean!
I agree. However, after tripping on my bunched up hose last week and getting pretty banged up, I'm definitely Italy putting in drip next year. I've watched a few videos and it's not nearly as difficult as I thought. I just can't continue to drag around 100 ft. Of hose every day in 110 degree heat!
I’ve tried many heuchera and the old classic Palace Purple is the only one that’s reliable in-ground for me. It’s not my favorite, but I’ll take it. I also have a protected raised bed shade garden that I water regularly, and I’ll pop in any clearance heuchera I find and they do better there. I’m in zone 6 PA.
interesting about Palace Purple -- I have a few heucheras that have come back year after year for me that are a few years old -- not sure the variety and I'm wondering if that's what it is! I wish they were all happy in my garden -- I think if I had drip everywhere-- they might do better... one day I'll maybe think about installing drip :)
Heucheras are the worst. I think they've just been bred for color instead of hardiness. I've even tried palace purple, and they just will not survive winter no matter what I try. They have no will to live.
Great video! Thanks for the info! I live an hour west of Jim Horttube in NC! One tip I've realized with Jack Frost Brunnera is they like alkaline soil. I put a total of 3 in my backyard that kept dying. Have 2 in my front yard that are thriving and multiplying! I also have a hydrangea near those Brunnera. The one in the back likes to turn blue (due to the acidic soil) and the one the front likes to stay pink (due to the alkaline soil) despite my efforts to acidify the soil to turn it blue! It finally dawned on me that the reason my Brunnera were thriving near my pink hydrangea was probably due to the alkaline conditions. Apparently my soil in the backyard is acidic, hence why they kept dying no matter where I put them in the back! Just food for thought!
Very interesting. I would say amend your soil in fall heavily with more hummus for these plants. The grass can take full sun and dappled sun well. In shaded areas plant a few more and feed they will just take longer in my experience. My property has various zones. I am on a hill in Ontario Canada. Basically a 4a. I move plants constantly that I am experimenting with to grow well. I moved a Rose of Sharon 5 times. We found the spot. The grass you have I moved 6 times. I now have two spots with which they love and are thriving. Jack Frost same. Took 7moves in my area to hit the sweet spot. So if you think they are worth it and love them move them until you find their sweet spot. The other thing I noticed was the mulch was very close and tight to stems of plants Brunnera in particular. Pull away by 2-3”. Sometimes they need airflow there. Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing but I would say play a little more. I also wonder if these ones you love need what I have a cold dormant season. Gardening is such a gift of learning. Enjoy💝🇨🇦
Have you watched Gardening with Creekside? They are in Dallas, NC but Jenny always has a lot of advice for gardening in the South. Very interesting video.
This was very helpful, thank you! Please share more plants that do well in our hot & humid climate (although this year it's just hot and not so humid). I planted a number of plants that were listed as" mildew resistant 'and others that dont even mention they are susceptible to mildew that are covered in mildew! I'm not interested in growing plants that get mildew and would love to know about more plants that you have found do not get mildew or rust and are just healthy!
It's such a bummer when that happens!! We have a really tough climate for plants -- so we really do need to stick with powerhouse perennials. I have another video where I talked about my top 5 perennials that do well in full sun -- I go through the why in that video, but to quickly list it out; Opening Act Series Phlox, yarrow, cone flower, speedwell, etc
You know, I have 2 peonies-one that gets powdery mildew first before the other...this year I managed to keep it away until just this month. I left it alone rather than try to get rid of it this time because the blooms were long gone any way. Last year when I tried to treat it, it just made the leaves look horrible and dead--so much worse than before, and I read that it doesn't hurt the plant. I figure it's worth the tradeoff, rather than not have peonies.
Thank you so much for this video. I garden in Atlanta and wanted to try many of these plants. This saves me the frustration of plants dying or that don’t thrive here. Thank you for suggesting substitutions.
Thank you for saying that you buy 1 plant to try it out in your garden! I feel bad not planting a drift because I feel like I'm breaking a gardening rule. I usually buy 1 or 2 plants at first to see how they do and if they survive until the following year, I will go back for more or sometimes divide. Have you tried growing Heuchera from seed? I have and they are so easy and much cheaper than buying the plants. They do much better than my store bought Heuchera. 😊
NO WAY!!! Thank you for sharing about the heuchera from seed doing better for you -- I'm definitely going to try that now! Where did you order your seeds from? Do you remember?
Your video was spot on for those of us in the deep south. I love every one of the plants you mentioned, but I have the same problems you have with them. I'm about 20 miles south of Atlanta in south Henry County. The heat and humidity struggle is so real!!!!! I look forward to your future videos. There is a definite lack of coverage of the deep south gardens!!!
Thank you for saying this!! I never know if I'm just "missing" folks and not seeing them -- but it's been fun learning how to make/edit/film videos! :)
My Jack Frost Brunnera is struggling but I have a Sterling Silver that is thriving. I’m in west TN with clay soil. I believe the variety makes a difference.
Oh! I haven't tried Sterling Silver but I've tried [and killed] a number of different Brunnera Varieties in the past! I'll have to keep my eye out for it.
I thought I was the only one who purchased 1 plant at a time. I’m not crazy. LOL I, too, fell into the FOMO way of gardening but Southern gardens are their own game. I’m in Texas (9A) and our needs are just different. I’m happy to see more southern gardeners on TH-cam. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Oh my gosh! No way! Plants are getting to expensive these days to buy a whole drift without trialing first 🤣. I still have FOMO… for SURE… but I just tell myself it’s not worth it and try not to focus on the things we can’t grow. Southern gardens really are… their own level of crazy. Especially during the summertime!!! I’m so glad it was helpful ❤️🥰
In Indiana, I had the All Gold Hakonechloa and it died out. I have Aureola also and it has done much better. Hollyhocks for me always get rust and I can't grown them here. I have had the problem with malva zebrina here also.
I’m with you by only buying one of some thing to see how it does. Our weather has been 104 in the summer to -7 suddenly in October that everything dropped its leaves. I can’t keep up with it. The coral bells I bought from Walmart have done well for me, but they have to have a lot of water and compost in my zone.
The weather the last few years has just been bipolar!!! So challenging!! I'm glad the Walmart coral bells have done well for you!! When they're happy -- they're such amazing plants!
Thanks for posting this and showing substitutions for some of the popular and showy varieties of these perennials. You have definitely done your research and I like the approach of purchasing one plant and testing it out first. We can always use annuals to fill in spaces until the choice perennials are vetted.
that's so true about plugging holes with annuals! I try to research as much as I can... but you know, there's nothing like the real world plant it and kill it approach :)
Sorry about my rant, in another posting! I live in zone 7b-8a and seem to have the same experience with some of these as you! I have always tried twice, then give up! I have a new answer! I now do this the first time! I plant my biennials and perennial plants in late September/early October! They get to miss the early oppressive heat and humidity and have time to put down good roots before cold weather sets in! Hollyhock gets to put out strong stalks and Daylily, echinacea and daisies will even divide before winter! So you actually get more plant for your money!
I have had the same problems with the plants you mentioned. Im in Colorado, and can not and will not ( no matter how much i like them,) plant those plants again. However I found a great plant that i do love for my shade garden and that is celendine poppies . They do need water in the summer to keep staying around, but even the leaves are nice , but the yellow flowers are sweet too. The added bonus is its a native plant for the USA. And it may be one you might want to add for spring interest in the shade garden. Its become 1 of my favorites .
I actually received a sample of Jack Frost earlier this season and it actually is looking OK so far... I am waiting until next year to make a final "judgement" -- but you definitely might be on to something!!
This is great advice! Lungwort is something I can not grow here. It disintegrates in the rain we get. Heuchera can be hit or miss too! I have to make a lot of substitutions for rabbit resistant plants
I enjoyed your video and agreed with some of the plants like ladies mantle and Japanese grasses, even though my next door neighbor can grow them. Like you said, microclimates matter. I have also resorted to only growing caramel heuchera. The difference is that I can grow Jack Frost which reseeds itself even in my lawn (I'm in Wisconsin with alkaline soil). As for your speech, I was satisfied that you don't use the word, like, as a constant filler.😊
It's grass. I have 8 surrounding an aircon compressor, mulch and compost well and water. And $20 is cheap! They average $26-$30 for a quart. They are wonderful but slow growers unless you feed and give them nutrients. Oh, and they aren't cat resistant.
This is really interesting. I have planted PW Dolce® 'Wildberry' Coral Bells last fall. (6b) Fabulous! Grew and thrived, made it thru the winter, were the hit of my spring and early summer shade garden and now all slowly dying with the summer heat and humidity. I thought it was me. Louisville KY has high heat and humidity in summer. Not even sure North Carolina gardens can properly relate. I LOVE Creekside but I am not sure, with their allegiance with Proven Winners, that they would tell us about failures.
For whatever the primo line for me is the only one that has survived and thrived here. I am curious about planting others from that line outside of caramel - but need to save up a bit before I splurge on the next round of perennials 🤣🙈 - I’m sure you know how it goes
I’m in northwest Louisiana zone 8b. I have several huechera in most all day shade, only morning sun from 7am to 10am. I have the georgia peach, caramel and purple prince varieties. They have done well in the clay soil that is somewhat amended over years by nature. Area gets regular sprinkler watering. I’m not good at fertilizing and they survived our snowmeggedon two years ago and last years bad freeze. I do not recommend them in our zone to be in sun. I planted some on opposite side which got late afternoon sun for maybe 4 hours but it’s too strong here for that. So shade or dappled sun but protected from full harsh sun after probably 11am in summer which is May- September here where I live. Heat zone 9 but garden zone 8b
I wonder if mine are getting too much sun and they just can't handle it -- for the most part mine are in dappled shade/sun -- and they look OK in the spring time.... and into early summer... and then one day *poof* they just melt and disappear. I guess it's full shade or not at all -- do yours still bloom well for you in the shade?
Hi! New follower from Sweden here! About hollyhocks. I live on a island with mild climate for Sweden, comparable with US zone 6. Hollyhocks are everywhere on this island, I mean every garden have them. So happily I seeded a couple different colours last year. One of the variety’s even bloomed with a couple of blooms first year. So I was really happy for this season. And what a growth! Biggest stocks over 10 feet! But I’ve never seen so much rust in my life, it was really really bad. So I must move them to another part of the garden with more air movement through the plant and see if it does better. And most importantly cut back on the watering and nutrients. They grow in cracks of pavement and we have almost no rain in summers here. With that said, try hollyhocks in a different location in fall, try to rinse out all soil around the roots, and cut back every leaf. I know for a fact that it’s only my conditions that are bad, not the plant itself.
Hi!! This is very interesting to hear your experience! I was very very jealous when I went to Denmark last year and saw Hollyhock growing through the cracks in the sidewalk! Now you're making me want to try again in a different location
@@everydaygardeningtips Gotland, the island I’m living on, is comparable with Denmark in climate, it’s just “on the other side”. I have realised that hollyhocks don’t want to be pampered. Just throw them out there and let them be on their own. 😆
I agree with your list. I’m in Nashville 7b, heavily wooded. I’ve gardened for years in Chicago, Wisconsin and VA, and this is the toughest. I used to say that if I could have just filled the moving van with my WI sail it would have been enough! I amend heavily and use a lot of Plantone, Hollytone and Deer Stopper. My plant success somewhat mirrors yours. The Heucharas and brunnera hang on,barely. I am having good success so far with lady’s mantle.
Oh man. Gardening in the South East is definitely a challenge! I hear that from so many gardeners that have moved down here -- and I 100% believe it. Where is your lady's mantle planted -- what conditions do you have it in? Now I'm tempted to try again! hahaha
I have the same hakanechloa forest grass in Maryland zone 7b. We have terrible heat and high humidity. It actually took about three years before it started growing. Don’t give up on it. I just love it. Meanwhile my brunnera, and lady’s mantle and heuchera do not do well at all. Heuchera does better in containers for me
Just found your channel, and I completely agree. Grow more of what thrives. I’ve gardened in Marietta for 40 years, and have killed a LOT of plants. I too love alchemical mollis, hollyhocks, hakonechloa, etc. So far, my brunnera has survived, but all those others have died multiple times. Lesson learned. I look forward to checking out your other videos!
Thanks Kathleen!! I totally have started to switch into the mindset of sticking to growing what works... with the occasional experiment plant thrown in here and there just to see :) -- I can't help myself!!
I apologize in advance for laughing but I feel your pain with the hollyhocks!!🤣🤣It is definitely a "zoom in" plant when showing it on social media. Wow! It gets the most hideous and aggressive rust infestations I have seen....worst than my squash and melon vines OMG! Thanks again for posting this!
I live within walking distance to Jim Putnam's gardens and have been gardening, and at times, selling as a nursery job for 40 years. If you are a Southern gardener I believe there is no better gardening advice than Jim's channels: HortTube and Garden Plants. As Jim explains, most plant growth occurs at night. The Southern garden tends to be far too hot at night for some plants to thrive, much less grow. And it is the stress of not thriving well that allows pathogens to take hold. There are powdery mildew fungal spores in the air everywhere . It is plant stress that allows the disease to manifest. "Fun" story: I sold Heuchera micrantha 'Palace Purple' by the dozens in the 1990s after it was 1991 Perennial Plant of the Year . Raleigh NC gardeners then watched those plants melt away, never to return again. Sad times.
oh man, that is very very much a "fun" story! Thank you for the advice on following Jim -- I have learned a LOT from him and really love following him. Now I have to ask... have you visited his gardens or gotten to meet him?!
I lived in the southeast (Alabama and Georgia) years back. Now I am in CA Central Valley where is hot and dry (3 digits temp in the summer). In my opinion, it is not just the heat. Humidity is the killer. I had a hard time growing roses in the south but they are diehard here in CA. Hollyhocks grow like weeds here; so do tomatoes! With dry heat we water more often. With outdoor humidity, there is not much can be done to alleviate.
@@everydaygardeningtips I knew Jim from way back when he had a stand at the State Farmer's Market for his company Earthworks Nursery. I am sure he does not know who I am. His home gardens are private and not open to the public (which is a good idea). Most of what he publishes are his visits to other growers or other private gardens, and sometimes interviews the owners there. By the way, my gardens are also private. I do not host any visitors, much like Jim and Steph, but unlike Brie The Plant Lady about 30 minutes south in Fuquay NC. She has several open houses a year. Brie Arthur is also a published book author and event speaker.
Alcea rosea has the same problems here! There is another species which I love more and survives without dying first year. Alcea rugosa is more heat, rust, and generally problem tolerant than the fancy hollyhocks. Its also the tallest but only comes in lemon yellow. It is extremely intolerant of winter moisture which I learned the hard way twice living in zone 6b in ohio a couple miles from lake erie. I would love to grow perennial elephant ears, bananas, verbenas, and other awesome 8a advantages. Your garden is magnificent! Thank you for a very cool video 🎉
Thank you for the super sweet compliment and recommendation!! Now I'm going to be on the lookout for Alcea rugosa.... although we do get very wet winters here too.
@@everydaygardeningtips I am in Jim Putnam's area of the world. I found your information in this video to be very helpful. Thank you! Another channel that might be helpful is Linda Vater's channel. She is in oklahoma. Her garden is beautiful and full of tons of Southern Living Plant Collection plants. So I am going to make an effort to try more of those.
I have had the same experience with hollyhocks. Only had good luck this year because it didn't rain for two months! I'm going to try the Russian rust resistant varieties going forward.
I enjoyed your video! Feather Falls Carex has been outstanding in a morning sun to shade location here in Central Texas zone 8. May I ask, what is the Redbud variety I see at 17:00?
I live in Illinois same zone as Erin….The Impatient Gardner. The plants you mentioned do not do well in my garden either. I planted two hollyhocks and one did ok and the other one was covered in rust. They were the double variety. I am jealous of that hydrangea in your video! That variety survives in the north but does not bloom. And they still sell them in our garden centers!
It’s crazy how some plants that work so well and thrive in some gardens… completely hate others 🤷🏻♀️. I hate when garden centers sell things that don’t grow well/thrive in that area - it’s totally my #1 garden pet peeve!!!
I tried to grow Hollyhocks to, up here in New England, where they grow wild on the side of the road.. what could go wrong right….A lot, they did the same thing that you experienced, rust, I also grew Mallow, and had them for years, but they would also get rust, then they just stopped growing altogether! I got the hint!!
HOW!? HOW!? It drives me crazy when I see them growing wild -- or growing through a crack in a sidewalk in other places.... and they looked SO bad for me. Mallow is definitely the way to go instead!
This is such an excellent and helpful video, and is is spot-on with what I’ve experienced in my Zone 7B, Durham NC garden. I’ve tried Brunnera, Hollyhock, and Heuchera to the same effect. The latter, I’ve bought probably 2 dozen over the past two years, many varieties, and planted them in all different areas of my yard. H. villosa is hands-down the winner. Others, as you say, mysteriously and suddenly die (after looking great for long stretches!). Thanks! Would love to hear about more garden mistakes, I mean, um, wisdom! :)))
you're so right!! Those garden mistakes is what totally creates "wisdom" later :) That's a great idea -- I'll have to brainstorm the list and will share shortly! Thanks for the suggestion.
I have had same experience with all your list. My garden is in SE Washington state where we have low humidity and high temperatures. That would suggest heat intolerance as the key factor. One exception, hollyhocks do well here but are eaten by flea beetles rather than decimated by rust which is specific to humidity. I have toyed with ideas of shade cloth or real heavy mulch.
how interesting is that!! Do you have drip in your garden set up? I am often wondering if consistent watering would overcome heat. Flea beetles are SO bad here too!! They demolish my yarrow at the end of the summer every year. I just cut it back and wait for next year at that point. :) Thanks for sharing your experience!
Not sure if you mentioned how old it (your hakone grass) was but in a recent shade garden tour I know Shelley with Guiding Green Thumbs has it in NY (5b?) and she said it took a 3-5 years to get truly established (with application of fish emulsion) before it really thrived
my patch is 3 years old and looks very similar to the day I planted it :) It's OK though... it's a beautiful grass and I LOVE it.... I just wish it thrived here.
well hopefully years 4 and 5 are good 🙂and if not you already have solid alternatives identified. Enjoyed the video and your garden, Cheers!@@everydaygardeningtips
The bird sounds in the beginning is a total swoon moment! 💕 I have the WORST luck with hollyhocks! They always get rust 😭 I LOVE heucheras but haven’t tried brunera yet
I wanted hollyhocks to work so baddd!!! The rust is the worst. I LOVE heucheras... but they definitely don't love me!! hehe. Thank you for the feedback on the bird sounds :)
Thank you so much for posting youtube videos from the Atlanta area. The closest TH-camrs I have found and follow are roots and refuge in the northern part of South Carolina, and then Jim Putnam in Charlotte, North Carolina. I’ve been gardening in Decatur Georgia for over 10 years and finally have a TH-camr specific to my area! Even the TH-camr lazy dog farm is too far away in south Georgia to be in a similar climate zone.
I thought the heuchera melting problem was just an issue here in the south east!!!! Geez. I wish they were more reliable --- I am thinking of buying more of the primo series to test them out -- those have seemed to do the best for me so far; but I don't know if it's just Caramel :)
@@everydaygardeningtips I have the Heuchera Wildberries that does the best for me. I also noticed that if I replant them every year they do better for some reason.
WHAAAAT!? Heucheras are lovely in my garden, while they are not quite evergreen here, they do perform well if I give them some shade, I do opt for the darker leaves ones tho... I do agree with hollyhocks, they did very poor in my garden too.
Your Heucheras are SO gorgeous and yes, I'm super jealous!! :) I am going to give another variety a shot soon... I'm just trying to narrow down which one :)
Just found your channel great video. I'm in Florida, zone 9b and none of these work for me either unfortunately. Off to watch your video on the five Perrinials that you do have success with. Thanks for sharing. I subscribed 😊
i'm not sure if you have dogs, but if you have recommendations for gardening with large rambunctious dogs, that would be awesome. (i'm in ATL area too)
oh my gosh! I do not have dogs but my brother does... and I have seen first hand what that can do to a garden. Honestly I'm starting to wonder if there needs to be some physical barrier in place to make plants survive energetic dogs!! I wish I could be of more help.
@@everydaygardeningtips Barriers is not a bad idea at all. I've also tried including planned paths that they run through. Also some plants, like butterfly bushes, seem to rebound really well from losing a branch here and there when the dogs run through them. I'm just always curious about more ideas.
There's a saying after you plant a plant tree whatever it may be the first year it sleeps the second-year it creeps and the third-year it leaks so I would give one more year for things like the grass and the jack frost
Your video was very helpful! I have tried 4 of the plants on your list here in my garden in Tallahassee, Fl. (zone 8b, hot and very humid). All melted. The frustrating part is that our 2 major nurseries sell heuchera. I havent tried Hollyhock. Another one I gave up on is verbena; they get covered in mildew (even the supposedly improved resistant varieties). Hosta is a flop here because it doesn't get cold enough.
Verbena I've grown a few times and I had the same experience as you did -- covered in mildew! I'm trying lollipop [improved resistance...] but now I'm thinking that maybe was a mistake! lol -- we shall see!
Atlanta gardener, too and first time viewer. Nice list, but my no more list is for overly aggressive plants (like Mexican Petunias). I’ve pulled out so many volunteers that they are a decorative weed for me. Thanks for your nice quality video.
OH MY GOSH!!! You are so right!!! There are so many aggressive garden plants that I stopped growing for this reason! Also pass a long plants that I won't add to my garden because... sheesh... the go nuts!!! Hi Neighbor!
1st year growing hollyhocks, super excited, bloomed great. The worst rust I’ve ever seen. Omg. I’m scared to grow anything in that area next year. Uggg
that was the most heart breaking one for me because I WAS SO EAGERLY AWAITING the blooms!!! Luckily for me, it didn't seem to spread or impact the health of any of my other plants in that area. I'd make sure whatever you're planting in that area isn't susceptible to rust -- otherwise you should be fine.
Oh that's so so hard. I think my #1 tip would be to water early in the morning and DEEPLY. You can use a sprinkler and let it run in an area for 20-30 minutes before moving on to another area. Also, I think if I was in southern TX I would save up to install drip irrigation so it's less of a chore for you every year -- if you don't already have drip installed.
New to your channel. Was very curious what did not do well in your garden. I am Charlotte NC zone 8. I have my own channel on TH-cam as well. I would say all 5 of those have not done well for me as well. I have not tried Brunnera, so know scared to try. Lol.
I grew up in Gwinnett, Georgia, so i know the weather you're referring to very well. I moved to east Tennessee 7b a couple of years ago and the weather is similar to Atlanta except with colder winters. I buy every huechera variety that i can get my hands on (because I'm obsessed) and have mass planted them in one particular area. I also have jack frost brunnera in the same area. And they all do very well. This area stays shady with even overhead light. This area naturally grows moss and native ferns. The soil stays moist and to this day i have only lost one huechera out of 25 varieties. I havent tried growing it anywhere else because of the caution other gardeners like you have pointed out with huechera and brunnera specifically. However, like i said, i have had great success, and i truly believe it has everything to do with the micro climate
This year I have really started growing mixed perennials in large containers. Heucheras seem to thrive in pots so I can place them strategically among other shade plants.
Thank You for this video!!! Now I'm going to watch your vid re: perennials you DO like. I'm in 7b, west TN. If they work for you, they will likely work for me! 😊 Oh, and we have clay "soil" too.
Thank you for the suggestion!! I don't follow Gardening with Creekside but I do follow and love Moya!! She's an amazing gardener with the coolest style!
Hah! It’s so confusing! Here’s the rule of heucheras - the darker the leaf, the more sun they can tolerate. Also, if you’re in a colder climate - the more sun they can tolerate. In the south, I don’t think any Heuchera would tolerate full sun - dappled /part shade is best.
O.M.G. I have NEVER been able to get Lady's Mantle to grow! I've bought literally 30 plants, some varieties supposedly "hardy"--all died here in Brooklyn , 7B, dappled sun/bright shade garden. I'm so sad...I just got some on sale ($3!) so I'm trying ONE LAST TIME. (BTW my brunneras do great and even flowered. Also 1 out of 3 Dolce 'Silver Gumdrop' Coral Bells lived--I love silver too). But I was like what am I doing wrong with Lady's Mantle?? 😭
I had the same issue with Lady's Mantle except this year I made a raised bed in mostly bright shade and filled it with soil conditioner and compost about 3-4 inches high. I transplanted it from a spot where it was surviving and added biotone around the roots. But made sure to keep it watered and we had a wetter cooler Spring than usual which helped a lot to get it established.
@@ncallick4226 I forgot to mention that my entire garden has to be all raised beds and huge planters because there's a massive Norway Maple tree that fills the entire yard with its roots. I definitely kept them moist, but maybe I didn't fertilize them enough. I did add compost in the Spring. I'll try BioTone with the FINAL attempt to grow them, thanks!
I don't want to count how many dollars I've spent trying to grow lady's mantle!!! The last one, Thriller -- which I think is supposed to be more heat tolerant and hardy... died the same tragic death that they all did! :(
@@everydaygardeningtips Thriller, Robustica ALL have died 😭. Breck's has them on sale right now--5 for $17 (doesn't say what variety). Maybe I'm an idiot but I'm trying ONE LAST TIME...
If I did that in 7b/8a they would sizzle to a crisp in a matter of days. It's so crazy the differences between growing zones and how things thrive/die :D
Thank you for doing this video! I've been wondering about brunnera and lady's mantle and pulmonaria, so now I think I know which one I'm going to try! I'm in NC with clay soil and humidity, so some similarities.
I’ve had great luck with Pulmonaria - I really wish I had luck with the others - if I find a variety that works well one day, I’ll be shouting it from the rooftops 🎉
interesting -- this is a japanese maple with not a very dense canopy -- but you might be right... I might have to test this theory out and move these in the fall :)
I include chapters in my videos so you can skip ahead and watch what you care about. Some people like talking, others don’t. It’s impossible to please everyone 🤷🏻♀️
I found this video helpful...Please don't take offense and as a former English professor I want to bring this issue to your attention. When you speak during a demonstration or a video presentation, it is very important to end each sentence on a falling intonation. Your way of speaking now has no resolution... one thought runs right into another thought. It's called high rise terminal. Many speakers within a particular age group have this issue. I recommend having someone listen to you while you speak and bring this to your attention so that in future videos you can correct your speaking pattern.
Hi All-- thanks for the feedback and it's feedback I've received before. I'll try and work on it. I "come from" making very short videos [60 second limitation on Instagram] -- so it's actually been a STEEP learning curve to slow down and have pauses. I'll work on this for the future.
“As a former English Professor”….just can’t give up the glory days can you? Your comment is rude and unsolicited advice on a channel that has nothing to do with “12 ways to make your videos sounds better”. She’s a mom sharing her gardening passion with other gardeners. I bet you’re not fun at parties.
Gardening with Creekside - is another besides Jim Putnam in your area - they do several times a weekly videos. I enjoy watching them….
Yes!!
Thank you for this recommendation!!! I appreciate it!
Great advice on buying plants in drifts. . I have fallen into the same trap, only to be disappointed . So many gardeners advise to buy at least 3 plants of the same kind. I have learned the hard way. I buy one ,try it out and then if successful I will either buy more of the same plant, or even better propogate by division or from volunteers of the mother plant. I am new to your channel, but am loving the honest advice you give. Plants are expensive , and not everyone can get freebies from sponsors!
Yes that’s exactly how I feel! Plants are expensive and getting more expensive every year (like everything else) - I 100% do the same thing as you - sometimes divide if it’s something that grows rapidly - otherwise I’ll save up for a drift the following season. I’m lucky and will sometimes get plants to trial too - but otherwise it’s a huge investment and I think trialing first with 1 is they smartest way to go about it.
totally agree mama, we need our garden time
It’s good for the soul 🥰🥰🥰
Great tip on buying ONE plant to see if it works in the garden before buying a drift of them. Very smart and good on the budget.
Thank you for bringing to light the plants that most of us are spending money on over and over again only to watch them fail.If you notice most garden videos in which the plant you mention survive or thrive have drip irrigation that I think is the defining factor ,most of us don’t and won’t .
EXACTLY!!! One day I might pull the trigger and get drip.... but honestly... that's not something in the cards right now... and while I KNOW it will make my garden perform 10X better than it does... I just can't justify it now. I totally know what you mean!
I agree. However, after tripping on my bunched up hose last week and getting pretty banged up, I'm definitely Italy putting in drip next year. I've watched a few videos and it's not nearly as difficult as I thought. I just can't continue to drag around 100 ft. Of hose every day in 110 degree heat!
I’ve tried many heuchera and the old classic Palace Purple is the only one that’s reliable in-ground for me. It’s not my favorite, but I’ll take it. I also have a protected raised bed shade garden that I water regularly, and I’ll pop in any clearance heuchera I find and they do better there. I’m in zone 6 PA.
interesting about Palace Purple -- I have a few heucheras that have come back year after year for me that are a few years old -- not sure the variety and I'm wondering if that's what it is! I wish they were all happy in my garden -- I think if I had drip everywhere-- they might do better... one day I'll maybe think about installing drip :)
Palace Purple is also totally reliable for me, in central Ohio 6a! Plus a local nursery sells very small pots of it for $1.50 each every spring❤
Ah! So jelly. I'm in 7b, west TN. Hot. Humid. Very challenging to raise pretty perennials.
Caramel Heuchera especially in pots or raised up in clay soil.
Heucheras are the worst. I think they've just been bred for color instead of hardiness. I've even tried palace purple, and they just will not survive winter no matter what I try. They have no will to live.
Great video! Thanks for the info! I live an hour west of Jim Horttube in NC! One tip I've realized with Jack Frost Brunnera is they like alkaline soil. I put a total of 3 in my backyard that kept dying. Have 2 in my front yard that are thriving and multiplying! I also have a hydrangea near those Brunnera. The one in the back likes to turn blue (due to the acidic soil) and the one the front likes to stay pink (due to the alkaline soil) despite my efforts to acidify the soil to turn it blue! It finally dawned on me that the reason my Brunnera were thriving near my pink hydrangea was probably due to the alkaline conditions. Apparently my soil in the backyard is acidic, hence why they kept dying no matter where I put them in the back! Just food for thought!
THIS IS SO INTERESTING!!! I definitely have acidic soil... that might be the reason Brunnera struggle for me.
Very interesting. I would say amend your soil in fall heavily with more hummus for these plants. The grass can take full sun and dappled sun well. In shaded areas plant a few more and feed they will just take longer in my experience. My property has various zones. I am on a hill in Ontario Canada. Basically a 4a. I move plants constantly that I am experimenting with to grow well. I moved a Rose of Sharon 5 times. We found the spot. The grass you have I moved 6 times. I now have two spots with which they love and are thriving. Jack Frost same. Took 7moves in my area to hit the sweet spot. So if you think they are worth it and love them move them until you find their sweet spot. The other thing I noticed was the mulch was very close and tight to stems of plants Brunnera in particular. Pull away by 2-3”. Sometimes they need airflow there. Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing but I would say play a little more. I also wonder if these ones you love need what I have a cold dormant season. Gardening is such a gift of learning. Enjoy💝🇨🇦
Have you watched Gardening with Creekside? They are in Dallas, NC but Jenny always has a lot of advice for gardening in the South. Very interesting video.
That's awesome! I didn't follow her until folks suggested it -- so grateful for your suggestion! I appreciate it :)
Love Jenny!
This was very helpful, thank you! Please share more plants that do well in our hot & humid climate (although this year it's just hot and not so humid). I planted a number of plants that were listed as" mildew resistant 'and others that dont even mention they are susceptible to mildew that are covered in mildew! I'm not interested in growing plants that get mildew and would love to know about more plants that you have found do not get mildew or rust and are just healthy!
It's such a bummer when that happens!! We have a really tough climate for plants -- so we really do need to stick with powerhouse perennials. I have another video where I talked about my top 5 perennials that do well in full sun -- I go through the why in that video, but to quickly list it out; Opening Act Series Phlox, yarrow, cone flower, speedwell, etc
You know, I have 2 peonies-one that gets powdery mildew first before the other...this year I managed to keep it away until just this month. I left it alone rather than try to get rid of it this time because the blooms were long gone any way. Last year when I tried to treat it, it just made the leaves look horrible and dead--so much worse than before, and I read that it doesn't hurt the plant. I figure it's worth the tradeoff, rather than not have peonies.
Thank you so much for this video. I garden in Atlanta and wanted to try many of these plants. This saves me the frustration of plants dying or that don’t thrive here. Thank you for suggesting substitutions.
I’m so glad it was helpful!
Thank you for saying that you buy 1 plant to try it out in your garden! I feel bad not planting a drift because I feel like I'm breaking a gardening rule. I usually buy 1 or 2 plants at first to see how they do and if they survive until the following year, I will go back for more or sometimes divide.
Have you tried growing Heuchera from seed? I have and they are so easy and much cheaper than buying the plants. They do much better than my store bought Heuchera. 😊
NO WAY!!! Thank you for sharing about the heuchera from seed doing better for you -- I'm definitely going to try that now! Where did you order your seeds from? Do you remember?
@@everydaygardeningtips I purchased the seeds from Outsidepride.com. Good luck and let us know how it goes! 😊
@@msmaddox2918 thank you!
Your video was spot on for those of us in the deep south. I love every one of the plants you mentioned, but I have the same problems you have with them. I'm about 20 miles south of Atlanta in south Henry County. The heat and humidity struggle is so real!!!!! I look forward to your future videos. There is a definite lack of coverage of the deep south gardens!!!
Thank you for saying this!! I never know if I'm just "missing" folks and not seeing them -- but it's been fun learning how to make/edit/film videos! :)
I fell there is not enough northern gardens maybe we need more gardens everywhere!!!!!
My Jack Frost Brunnera is struggling but I have a Sterling Silver that is thriving. I’m in west TN with clay soil. I believe the variety makes a difference.
Oh! I haven't tried Sterling Silver but I've tried [and killed] a number of different Brunnera Varieties in the past! I'll have to keep my eye out for it.
I thought I was the only one who purchased 1 plant at a time. I’m not crazy. LOL
I, too, fell into the FOMO way of gardening but Southern gardens are their own game. I’m in Texas (9A) and our needs are just different. I’m happy to see more southern gardeners on TH-cam. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Oh my gosh! No way! Plants are getting to expensive these days to buy a whole drift without trialing first 🤣.
I still have FOMO… for SURE… but I just tell myself it’s not worth it and try not to focus on the things we can’t grow. Southern gardens really are… their own level of crazy. Especially during the summertime!!! I’m so glad it was helpful ❤️🥰
I live in western North Carolina, zone 7 and I have had all of these same issues! Glad to find out it is not just me :)
Hah! Glad it’s not just me either 🤣🙈
In Indiana, I had the All Gold Hakonechloa and it died out. I have Aureola also and it has done much better. Hollyhocks for me always get rust and I can't grown them here. I have had the problem with malva zebrina here also.
interesting about Aureola!!! Now I'm going to be VERY tempted if I see that for sale near me :)
I’m with you by only buying one of some thing to see how it does. Our weather has been 104 in the summer to -7 suddenly in October that everything dropped its leaves. I can’t keep up with it. The coral bells I bought from Walmart have done well for me, but they have to have a lot of water and compost in my zone.
The weather the last few years has just been bipolar!!! So challenging!! I'm glad the Walmart coral bells have done well for you!! When they're happy -- they're such amazing plants!
Thanks for posting this and showing substitutions for some of the popular and showy varieties of these perennials. You have definitely done your research and I like the approach of purchasing one plant and testing it out first. We can always use annuals to fill in spaces until the choice perennials are vetted.
that's so true about plugging holes with annuals! I try to research as much as I can... but you know, there's nothing like the real world plant it and kill it approach :)
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Sorry about my rant, in another posting! I live in zone 7b-8a and seem to have the same experience with some of these as you! I have always tried twice, then give up! I have a new answer! I now do this the first time! I plant my biennials and perennial plants in late September/early October! They get to miss the early oppressive heat and humidity and have time to put down good roots before cold weather sets in! Hollyhock gets to put out strong stalks and Daylily, echinacea and daisies will even divide before winter! So you actually get more plant for your money!
I have had the same problems with the plants you mentioned. Im in Colorado, and can not and will not ( no matter how much i like them,) plant those plants again. However I found a great plant that i do love for my shade garden and that is celendine poppies . They do need water in the summer to keep staying around, but even the leaves are nice , but the yellow flowers are sweet too. The added bonus is its a native plant for the USA. And it may be one you might want to add for spring interest in the shade garden. Its become 1 of my favorites .
Brunnera Jack Frost does great in Virginia, lots of shade. It thrives and spreads for me.
I actually received a sample of Jack Frost earlier this season and it actually is looking OK so far... I am waiting until next year to make a final "judgement" -- but you definitely might be on to something!!
This is great advice! Lungwort is something I can not grow here. It disintegrates in the rain we get. Heuchera can be hit or miss too! I have to make a lot of substitutions for rabbit resistant plants
Oh man! Rabbits aren’t something I’ve had to deal with yet!! I’m sure that’s a huge challenge! Bummer about Lungwort not working 😞
I enjoyed your video and agreed with some of the plants like ladies mantle and Japanese grasses, even though my next door neighbor can grow them. Like you said, microclimates matter. I have also resorted to only growing caramel heuchera. The difference is that I can grow Jack Frost which reseeds itself even in my lawn (I'm in Wisconsin with alkaline soil). As for your speech, I was satisfied that you don't use the word, like, as a constant filler.😊
Hakonechloe (sp) takes a while to put on size. I’m on Long Island. Mine is still on the small side though last year’s drought did ser them back a bit.
That’s really great to know - these are in their third season and boy am I getting impatient 🙈
It's grass. I have 8 surrounding an aircon compressor, mulch and compost well and water.
And $20 is cheap! They average $26-$30 for a quart.
They are wonderful but slow growers unless you feed and give them nutrients. Oh, and they aren't cat resistant.
This is really interesting. I have planted PW Dolce® 'Wildberry' Coral Bells last fall. (6b) Fabulous! Grew and thrived, made it thru the winter, were the hit of my spring and early summer shade garden and now all slowly dying with the summer heat and humidity. I thought it was me. Louisville KY has high heat and humidity in summer. Not even sure North Carolina gardens can properly relate. I LOVE Creekside but I am not sure, with their allegiance with Proven Winners, that they would tell us about failures.
For whatever the primo line for me is the only one that has survived and thrived here. I am curious about planting others from that line outside of caramel - but need to save up a bit before I splurge on the next round of perennials 🤣🙈 - I’m sure you know how it goes
I’m in northwest Louisiana zone 8b. I have several huechera in most all day shade, only morning sun from 7am to 10am. I have the georgia peach, caramel and purple prince varieties. They have done well in the clay soil that is somewhat amended over years by nature. Area gets regular sprinkler watering. I’m not good at fertilizing and they survived our snowmeggedon two years ago and last years bad freeze. I do not recommend them in our zone to be in sun. I planted some on opposite side which got late afternoon sun for maybe 4 hours but it’s too strong here for that. So shade or dappled sun but protected from full harsh sun after probably 11am in summer which is May- September here where I live. Heat zone 9 but garden zone 8b
I wonder if mine are getting too much sun and they just can't handle it -- for the most part mine are in dappled shade/sun -- and they look OK in the spring time.... and into early summer... and then one day *poof* they just melt and disappear. I guess it's full shade or not at all -- do yours still bloom well for you in the shade?
Hi! New follower from Sweden here! About hollyhocks. I live on a island with mild climate for Sweden, comparable with US zone 6. Hollyhocks are everywhere on this island, I mean every garden have them. So happily I seeded a couple different colours last year. One of the variety’s even bloomed with a couple of blooms first year. So I was really happy for this season. And what a growth! Biggest stocks over 10 feet! But I’ve never seen so much rust in my life, it was really really bad.
So I must move them to another part of the garden with more air movement through the plant and see if it does better. And most importantly cut back on the watering and nutrients. They grow in cracks of pavement and we have almost no rain in summers here. With that said, try hollyhocks in a different location in fall, try to rinse out all soil around the roots, and cut back every leaf. I know for a fact that it’s only my conditions that are bad, not the plant itself.
Hi!! This is very interesting to hear your experience! I was very very jealous when I went to Denmark last year and saw Hollyhock growing through the cracks in the sidewalk! Now you're making me want to try again in a different location
@@everydaygardeningtips Gotland, the island I’m living on, is comparable with Denmark in climate, it’s just “on the other side”.
I have realised that hollyhocks don’t want to be pampered. Just throw them out there and let them be on their own. 😆
I agree with your list. I’m in Nashville 7b, heavily wooded. I’ve gardened for years in Chicago, Wisconsin and VA, and this is the toughest. I used to say that if I could have just filled the moving van with my WI sail it would have been enough! I amend heavily and use a lot of Plantone, Hollytone and Deer Stopper. My plant success somewhat mirrors yours. The Heucharas and brunnera hang on,barely. I am having good success so far with lady’s mantle.
Oh man. Gardening in the South East is definitely a challenge! I hear that from so many gardeners that have moved down here -- and I 100% believe it. Where is your lady's mantle planted -- what conditions do you have it in? Now I'm tempted to try again! hahaha
I too miss the Wisconsin soil! We have at best 1/2 inch of top soil here in Little Rock. Whereas, we had at least 3 inches in Madison.
Great list. This helps me understand the difference between cooler gardening zones and warmer zones. Well done.
Thank you so much! Your garden is looking absolutely spectacular this year [as always]
@@everydaygardeningtips Thanks Michelle.
I have the same hakanechloa forest grass in Maryland zone 7b. We have terrible heat and high humidity. It actually took about three years before it started growing. Don’t give up on it. I just love it. Meanwhile my brunnera, and lady’s mantle and heuchera do not do well at all. Heuchera does better in containers for me
Just found your channel, and I completely agree. Grow more of what thrives. I’ve gardened in Marietta for 40 years, and have killed a LOT of plants. I too love alchemical mollis, hollyhocks, hakonechloa, etc. So far, my brunnera has survived, but all those others have died multiple times. Lesson learned. I look forward to checking out your other videos!
Thanks Kathleen!! I totally have started to switch into the mindset of sticking to growing what works... with the occasional experiment plant thrown in here and there just to see :) -- I can't help myself!!
I apologize in advance for laughing but I feel your pain with the hollyhocks!!🤣🤣It is definitely a "zoom in" plant when showing it on social media. Wow! It gets the most hideous and aggressive rust infestations I have seen....worst than my squash and melon vines OMG! Thanks again for posting this!
I've never seen anything get rust THAT BAD... and look THAT BAD. Also, you can always laugh at my pain -- I know you know the pain :)
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I live within walking distance to Jim Putnam's gardens and have been gardening, and at times, selling as a nursery job for 40 years. If you are a Southern gardener I believe there is no better gardening advice than Jim's channels: HortTube and Garden Plants.
As Jim explains, most plant growth occurs at night. The Southern garden tends to be far too hot at night for some plants to thrive, much less grow. And it is the stress of not thriving well that allows pathogens to take hold. There are powdery mildew fungal spores in the air everywhere . It is plant stress that allows the disease to manifest.
"Fun" story: I sold Heuchera micrantha 'Palace Purple' by the dozens in the 1990s after it was 1991 Perennial Plant of the Year . Raleigh NC gardeners then watched those plants melt away, never to return again. Sad times.
Amazing!!!
oh man, that is very very much a "fun" story! Thank you for the advice on following Jim -- I have learned a LOT from him and really love following him. Now I have to ask... have you visited his gardens or gotten to meet him?!
I lived in the southeast (Alabama and Georgia) years back. Now I am in CA Central Valley where is hot and dry (3 digits temp in the summer). In my opinion, it is not just the heat. Humidity is the killer. I had a hard time growing roses in the south but they are diehard here in CA. Hollyhocks grow like weeds here; so do tomatoes! With dry heat we water more often. With outdoor humidity, there is not much can be done to alleviate.
@@everydaygardeningtips I knew Jim from way back when he had a stand at the State Farmer's Market for his company Earthworks Nursery. I am sure he does not know who I am. His home gardens are private and not open to the public (which is a good idea). Most of what he publishes are his visits to other growers or other private gardens, and sometimes interviews the owners there. By the way, my gardens are also private. I do not host any visitors, much like Jim and Steph, but unlike Brie The Plant Lady about 30 minutes south in Fuquay NC. She has several open houses a year. Brie Arthur is also a published book author and event speaker.
@@jlseagull2.060 So very true.
Alcea rosea has the same problems here! There is another species which I love more and survives without dying first year. Alcea rugosa is more heat, rust, and generally problem tolerant than the fancy hollyhocks. Its also the tallest but only comes in lemon yellow. It is extremely intolerant of winter moisture which I learned the hard way twice living in zone 6b in ohio a couple miles from lake erie. I would love to grow perennial elephant ears, bananas, verbenas, and other awesome 8a advantages. Your garden is magnificent! Thank you for a very cool video 🎉
Thank you for the super sweet compliment and recommendation!! Now I'm going to be on the lookout for Alcea rugosa.... although we do get very wet winters here too.
another good channel closer to you is Gardening with Creekside. Dallas NC.
Thank you for the recommendation!!!!
@@everydaygardeningtips I am in Jim Putnam's area of the world. I found your information in this video to be very helpful. Thank you! Another channel that might be helpful is Linda Vater's channel. She is in oklahoma. Her garden is beautiful and full of tons of Southern Living Plant Collection plants. So I am going to make an effort to try more of those.
I started watching you because we live in the same area.
Hi Neighbor!!
I have had the same experience with hollyhocks. Only had good luck this year because it didn't rain for two months! I'm going to try the Russian rust resistant varieties going forward.
Good luck!!! I am so curious how those perform in the garden and how different they are
Excellent video, such a great outlook. Thank you!
You are so welcome! Thank you for taking the time to leave this comment
Thanks for sharing such a informative video
I’m so glad it was helpful!!
I agree about Hollyhocks - two years waiting for this huge plant and then the blooms are lovely, but the rest of the plant looks terrible!
100%!! I was so excited and so let down at the same time :) -- that's definitely a plant that causes a roller coaster of emotions.
I enjoyed your video! Feather Falls Carex has been outstanding in a morning sun to shade location here in Central Texas zone 8. May I ask, what is the Redbud variety I see at 17:00?
Thank you! It’s rising sun redbud ❤️ it’s one of my favorites
I live in Illinois same zone as Erin….The Impatient Gardner. The plants you mentioned do not do well in my garden either. I planted two hollyhocks and one did ok and the other one was covered in rust. They were the double variety. I am jealous of that hydrangea in your video! That variety survives in the north but does not bloom. And they still sell them in our garden centers!
It’s crazy how some plants that work so well and thrive in some gardens… completely hate others 🤷🏻♀️. I hate when garden centers sell things that don’t grow well/thrive in that area - it’s totally my #1 garden pet peeve!!!
I tried to grow Hollyhocks to, up here in New England, where they grow wild on the side of the road.. what could go wrong right….A lot, they did the same thing that you experienced, rust, I also grew Mallow, and had them for years, but they would also get rust, then they just stopped growing altogether! I got the hint!!
HOW!? HOW!? It drives me crazy when I see them growing wild -- or growing through a crack in a sidewalk in other places.... and they looked SO bad for me. Mallow is definitely the way to go instead!
This is such an excellent and helpful video, and is is spot-on with what I’ve experienced in my Zone 7B, Durham NC garden. I’ve tried Brunnera, Hollyhock, and Heuchera to the same effect. The latter, I’ve bought probably 2 dozen over the past two years, many varieties, and planted them in all different areas of my yard. H. villosa is hands-down the winner. Others, as you say, mysteriously and suddenly die (after looking great for long stretches!). Thanks! Would love to hear about more garden mistakes, I mean, um, wisdom! :)))
you're so right!! Those garden mistakes is what totally creates "wisdom" later :) That's a great idea -- I'll have to brainstorm the list and will share shortly! Thanks for the suggestion.
I have had same experience with all your list. My garden is in SE Washington state where we have low humidity and high temperatures. That would suggest heat intolerance as the key factor. One exception, hollyhocks do well here but are eaten by flea beetles rather than decimated by rust which is specific to humidity. I have toyed with ideas of shade cloth or real heavy mulch.
how interesting is that!! Do you have drip in your garden set up? I am often wondering if consistent watering would overcome heat. Flea beetles are SO bad here too!! They demolish my yarrow at the end of the summer every year. I just cut it back and wait for next year at that point. :) Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@everydaygardeningtips I don't have drip system but do have sprinkler system running all summer. Obviously, it doesn't seem to help.
Not sure if you mentioned how old it (your hakone grass) was but in a recent shade garden tour I know Shelley with Guiding Green Thumbs has it in NY (5b?) and she said it took a 3-5 years to get truly established (with application of fish emulsion) before it really thrived
my patch is 3 years old and looks very similar to the day I planted it :) It's OK though... it's a beautiful grass and I LOVE it.... I just wish it thrived here.
well hopefully years 4 and 5 are good 🙂and if not you already have solid alternatives identified. Enjoyed the video and your garden, Cheers!@@everydaygardeningtips
The bird sounds in the beginning is a total swoon moment! 💕
I have the WORST luck with hollyhocks! They always get rust 😭 I LOVE heucheras but haven’t tried brunera yet
I wanted hollyhocks to work so baddd!!! The rust is the worst. I LOVE heucheras... but they definitely don't love me!! hehe. Thank you for the feedback on the bird sounds :)
Thats a hot take on huexheras.. id have to agree
Thank you so much for posting youtube videos from the Atlanta area. The closest TH-camrs I have found and follow are roots and refuge in the northern part of South Carolina, and then Jim Putnam in Charlotte, North Carolina. I’ve been gardening in Decatur Georgia for over 10 years and finally have a TH-camr specific to my area! Even the TH-camr lazy dog farm is too far away in south Georgia to be in a similar climate zone.
I'm so glad it's helpful! I'm not too far from Decatur and absolutely LOVE the Wylde Center! It's such a treasure!
I am with you on Heucheras and Hollyhocks. Only a few Heucheras survived even in our northern climate. And Hollyhocks just look awful with rust.
I thought the heuchera melting problem was just an issue here in the south east!!!! Geez. I wish they were more reliable --- I am thinking of buying more of the primo series to test them out -- those have seemed to do the best for me so far; but I don't know if it's just Caramel :)
@@everydaygardeningtips I have the Heuchera Wildberries that does the best for me. I also noticed that if I replant them every year they do better for some reason.
WHAAAAT!? Heucheras are lovely in my garden, while they are not quite evergreen here, they do perform well if I give them some shade, I do opt for the darker leaves ones tho... I do agree with hollyhocks, they did very poor in my garden too.
Your Heucheras are SO gorgeous and yes, I'm super jealous!! :) I am going to give another variety a shot soon... I'm just trying to narrow down which one :)
Good info. I have had similar experiences down here in Savannah.
Just found your channel great video. I'm in Florida, zone 9b and none of these work for me either unfortunately. Off to watch your video on the five Perrinials that you do have success with. Thanks for sharing. I subscribed 😊
Im so glad you found my channel and this is helpful ❤️🥰 thank you for taking the time to comment ❤️
i'm not sure if you have dogs, but if you have recommendations for gardening with large rambunctious dogs, that would be awesome. (i'm in ATL area too)
oh my gosh! I do not have dogs but my brother does... and I have seen first hand what that can do to a garden. Honestly I'm starting to wonder if there needs to be some physical barrier in place to make plants survive energetic dogs!! I wish I could be of more help.
@@everydaygardeningtips Barriers is not a bad idea at all. I've also tried including planned paths that they run through. Also some plants, like butterfly bushes, seem to rebound really well from losing a branch here and there when the dogs run through them. I'm just always curious about more ideas.
There's a saying after you plant a plant tree whatever it may be the first year it sleeps the second-year it creeps and the third-year it leaks so I would give one more year for things like the grass and the jack frost
You’re so right - these are both on their third season though 🤣🤣
@@everydaygardeningtips starts to leak on the third-year give it one more year
I live in Southern Ontario Canada and I struggle with hollyhocks too .
oh wow! I thought it was just a southern gardener problem!! I've decided they aren't worth fretting over :D
Hybrid coreopsis never comes back for me in NJ zone 6b. I give up on it.
Awwww what a bummer!
Big thanks, coming from Chamblee!
You're welcome! Also!! Hi Neighbor! I'm not too far away from you!
Your video was very helpful! I have tried 4 of the plants on your list here in my garden in Tallahassee, Fl. (zone 8b, hot and very humid). All melted. The frustrating part is that our 2 major nurseries sell heuchera. I havent tried Hollyhock. Another one I gave up on is verbena; they get covered in mildew (even the supposedly improved resistant varieties). Hosta is a flop here because it doesn't get cold enough.
Verbena I've grown a few times and I had the same experience as you did -- covered in mildew! I'm trying lollipop [improved resistance...] but now I'm thinking that maybe was a mistake! lol -- we shall see!
@gardensandchickens Lolipop (bonareinsis) verbena was covered in mildew even though it was in full sun. I had to remove it :(
Atlanta gardener, too and first time viewer. Nice list, but my no more list is for overly aggressive plants (like Mexican Petunias). I’ve pulled out so many volunteers that they are a decorative weed for me. Thanks for your nice quality video.
OH MY GOSH!!! You are so right!!! There are so many aggressive garden plants that I stopped growing for this reason! Also pass a long plants that I won't add to my garden because... sheesh... the go nuts!!! Hi Neighbor!
love your channel and your always useful advice
Thank you so much!!! This made my day ❤️
1st year growing hollyhocks, super excited, bloomed great. The worst rust I’ve ever seen. Omg. I’m scared to grow anything in that area next year. Uggg
that was the most heart breaking one for me because I WAS SO EAGERLY AWAITING the blooms!!! Luckily for me, it didn't seem to spread or impact the health of any of my other plants in that area. I'd make sure whatever you're planting in that area isn't susceptible to rust -- otherwise you should be fine.
I’m in southern TX and we are extremely HOT. Any suggestions on how to help our plants make it through this heat wave?
Oh that's so so hard. I think my #1 tip would be to water early in the morning and DEEPLY. You can use a sprinkler and let it run in an area for 20-30 minutes before moving on to another area. Also, I think if I was in southern TX I would save up to install drip irrigation so it's less of a chore for you every year -- if you don't already have drip installed.
I’m in Idaho and have had very similar experiences with the same plants. I’m finding some success with Brunnera but only in very specific spots.
ahh! I am seriously considering digging and moving these in the fall to see if I can find a better spot for them!
@@everydaygardeningtips best of luck! Hopefully you can find better spots, it seems like I wind up moving stuff every time I’m in the garden.
What is this plant with the purple blooms behind you at closing of video?? A hydrangea? Very Pretty. I am in zone 8b and agree with your list.
It is Endless Summer Bloomstruck Hydrangea! It's never EVER aged to this deep of a purple and I'm absolutely obsessed with it this year!!
New to your channel. Was very curious what did not do well in your garden. I am Charlotte NC zone 8. I have my own channel on TH-cam as well. I would say all 5 of those have not done well for me as well. I have not tried Brunnera, so know scared to try. Lol.
I'm going to check out your channel too!! So nice to have other southern gardeners on here to learn from!
I grew up in Gwinnett, Georgia, so i know the weather you're referring to very well. I moved to east Tennessee 7b a couple of years ago and the weather is similar to Atlanta except with colder winters.
I buy every huechera variety that i can get my hands on (because I'm obsessed) and have mass planted them in one particular area. I also have jack frost brunnera in the same area. And they all do very well.
This area stays shady with even overhead light. This area naturally grows moss and native ferns. The soil stays moist and to this day i have only lost one huechera out of 25 varieties.
I havent tried growing it anywhere else because of the caution other gardeners like you have pointed out with huechera and brunnera specifically. However, like i said, i have had great success, and i truly believe it has everything to do with the micro climate
This year I have really started growing mixed perennials in large containers. Heucheras seem to thrive in pots so I can place them strategically among other shade plants.
That sounds so magical!! I bet the moisture in summer is absolutely key! I’m so glad you’re able to grow them with success 🥰❤️.
Great. We need to know microclimate in every state
Thank You for this video!!! Now I'm going to watch your vid re: perennials you DO like. I'm in 7b, west TN. If they work for you, they will likely work for me! 😊 Oh, and we have clay "soil" too.
sounds like we have very similar conditions!! I'm so glad this video was helpful :)
You should check out Gardening with Creekside (North Carolina), and Garden Addictz (Maryland). They talk about clay soil issues.
Thank you for the suggestion!! I don't follow Gardening with Creekside but I do follow and love Moya!! She's an amazing gardener with the coolest style!
What type of sun/shade does your Heuchera Caramel get? I’m always confused when they say full sun to full shade.
Hah! It’s so confusing! Here’s the rule of heucheras - the darker the leaf, the more sun they can tolerate. Also, if you’re in a colder climate - the more sun they can tolerate. In the south, I don’t think any Heuchera would tolerate full sun - dappled /part shade is best.
O.M.G. I have NEVER been able to get Lady's Mantle to grow! I've bought literally 30 plants, some varieties supposedly "hardy"--all died here in Brooklyn , 7B, dappled sun/bright shade garden. I'm so sad...I just got some on sale ($3!) so I'm trying ONE LAST TIME. (BTW my brunneras do great and even flowered. Also 1 out of 3 Dolce 'Silver Gumdrop' Coral Bells lived--I love silver too). But I was like what am I doing wrong with Lady's Mantle?? 😭
I had the same issue with Lady's Mantle except this year I made a raised bed in mostly bright shade and filled it with soil conditioner and compost about 3-4 inches high. I transplanted it from a spot where it was surviving and added biotone around the roots. But made sure to keep it watered and we had a wetter cooler Spring than usual which helped a lot to get it established.
@@ncallick4226 I forgot to mention that my entire garden has to be all raised beds and huge planters because there's a massive Norway Maple tree that fills the entire yard with its roots. I definitely kept them moist, but maybe I didn't fertilize them enough. I did add compost in the Spring. I'll try BioTone with the FINAL attempt to grow them, thanks!
I don't want to count how many dollars I've spent trying to grow lady's mantle!!! The last one, Thriller -- which I think is supposed to be more heat tolerant and hardy... died the same tragic death that they all did! :(
@@everydaygardeningtips Thriller, Robustica ALL have died 😭. Breck's has them on sale right now--5 for $17 (doesn't say what variety). Maybe I'm an idiot but I'm trying ONE LAST TIME...
@@SisterFromAnotherPlanet you’re either bold and daring… or…. Never mind 🤣🤣🤣🤣 good luck!! And if it works out, you’ve GOTTA update me!!!
Jack frost can take more light than most people seem to talk about. Maybe just for my garden. I give it full sun😅😅😅 zone 5b
If I did that in 7b/8a they would sizzle to a crisp in a matter of days. It's so crazy the differences between growing zones and how things thrive/die :D
Thank you for doing this video! I've been wondering about brunnera and lady's mantle and pulmonaria, so now I think I know which one I'm going to try! I'm in NC with clay soil and humidity, so some similarities.
I’ve had great luck with Pulmonaria - I really wish I had luck with the others - if I find a variety that works well one day, I’ll be shouting it from the rooftops 🎉
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Thanks
I am not sure she cares what you think about her intonation. It is a fine video
Id have to sat Aliums suck in the south!
so true!!!
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Thank you!!
skip to 4:50 for the actual content
Thanks - I also try to include chapters so you can skip around to the parts you’re interested in and watch what you want ❤️
Brunners doesn’t go well in dry dhsde under trees.
interesting -- this is a japanese maple with not a very dense canopy -- but you might be right... I might have to test this theory out and move these in the fall :)
To much talking in the beginning- sorry, just hope feedback will help . Moving on….
I include chapters in my videos so you can skip ahead and watch what you care about. Some people like talking, others don’t. It’s impossible to please everyone 🤷🏻♀️
I found this video helpful...Please don't take offense and as a former English professor I want to bring this issue to your attention. When you speak during a demonstration or a video presentation, it is very important to end each sentence on a falling intonation. Your way of speaking now has no resolution... one thought runs right into another thought. It's called high rise terminal. Many speakers within a particular age group have this issue. I recommend having someone listen to you while you speak and bring this to your attention so that in future videos you can correct your speaking pattern.
I wish more people who like public speaking could understand this concept. It is not easy to listen to but I love the content of the video
Underrated comment
Slow down, take a breath or pause.
Hi All-- thanks for the feedback and it's feedback I've received before. I'll try and work on it. I "come from" making very short videos [60 second limitation on Instagram] -- so it's actually been a STEEP learning curve to slow down and have pauses. I'll work on this for the future.
“As a former English Professor”….just can’t give up the glory days can you? Your comment is rude and unsolicited advice on a channel that has nothing to do with “12 ways to make your videos sounds better”. She’s a mom sharing her gardening passion with other gardeners.
I bet you’re not fun at parties.
You should start homeschooling your precious little ones
I’ve seriously considered it
@@everydaygardeningtips well, you're on the right track
@@everydaygardeningtips strangers shouldn't be educating our children