I'm not a huge fan of Orton, but I laughed my ass off at the "enhancement" comment. If they punish him for it, they'd be major hypocrites after spending a whole month trashing their boy Reigns just to have him main event a PPV.
I thought it was an amazing show. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn stole the show for me, incredible storytelling from how Kevin Owens begged Sami Zayn to stay down so he doesn't have to keep beating on him to Sami Zayn holding Kevin Owens before his 2nd helluva kick. The tag match was also incredible too, as was the shield triple threat. They need to give Woods some more time to shine he's a great worker
+Peter Salizzoni yeah those reigns were a joke too. AJ Lee was the Diva we needed but didn't deserve and Nikki isn't COMPLETELY terrible but I have no respect for reigns where the champ goes for months without defending it
+Anson D. Grimes hopefully they atleast wait to wrestlemania for that, at summerslam I see dean vs John cena vs aj styles for the title or just aj or bray wyatt
is it just me or did they call the see worldheavyweight championship the see championship? Go back and rewatch the announcing part. you can also can hear it on Tuesday night smackdown
It was kind of punishment for Roman reigns. Being pinned clean by dean once more time in a row and then made to job out to fin balor on raw the next night. Im glad fin balor won. Plus the usos are like his family and are hoisting the man who just pinned him clean on their shoulders
you're right with the Charlotte record thing HOWEVER, the divas title is currently treated differently from the women's title. Charlotte held the Divas title for 196 days so she didn't break the Divas title record thats still Nikki Bellas's Technically and then she held the Women's title for 113 days so she has the record for the new women's belt since she's the only one to hold it yet beside the new champ Sasha (excluding the lita and trish days). So yes, she has the record for being on top the female superstars division with 196+113 but TECHNICALLY Nikki Bella still holds the record for the divas belt specifically.
Technically, Charlotte didn't hold the Diva's championship long enough to break Nikki's record. Her reign as champion lasted longer, but it was 200 ish days as Diva's and 100 ish as Women's
Sweet Chin Music is the only protected Superkick...and you have to drum up the band first. That being said...boost Ziggler's Superkick, at least he puts on the showmanship.
The reason that Charlotte's reign was not celebrated as "the longest reign" was because the WWE Women's Title is a new title with her reign beginning at WrestleMania as day 1. The Divas Title was deactivated. So, that reign ended at WrestleMania and is not added in as a continuation since WWE does not want to use that linage (for now).
the issue with super kicks isn't that big of a deal. if anything it says that shaw Michaels hits THE BEST super kicks and everyone else can't do them as good as hbk
I don't know if Maffew would put some of those both he's normally a little bit more respectful of botch led that could have been career/life threatening.
Actually, he would definitely put up failed spots that 'almost' caused major injuries. In fact, he puts up botches like that all the time. He held off on showing the Enzo one again mainly because the WWE were milking it for sympathy for Enzo and Cass, which was a bit sick.
+Joe Homer It's not at all sick, it helped put them over. If they hadn't talked about Enzo or the injury, it would have just killed their momentum. Everyone saw it on live TV, why hide it?
***** No, I get mentioning it, After all, injured superstars always get good pops when they return to action. But they replayed it so much that week. It wasn't a nice thing to witness the first time, let alone the sixth.
Rusev, Ziggler, Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, Kevin Owens, Tyler Breeze, Seth rollins, Alberto Del Rio, Luke Harper, the super kick is over used and i know im missing someone.
Long distance booking, twenty years down the road, Owens and Zayn get inducted into the HOF in the same year. They jaw back and forth as to who gives their speech first. Whoever goes first get interrupted by a run in and they both give their speeches as they brawl.
WWE doesn't talk about the length of Charlotte's title reign because they are, technically, two separate reigns. She was only Diva's Champion for 196 days. Since she is the first Women's Champion (the first Women's Championship for some reason has a different lineage), it's a given that her reign is the longest.
You misspoke. You said "fly swatter," but I think you meant to say "swy flatter." Also, I think WWE wanted Orton to mention the Lesnar "enhancement" thing. I think the whole situation with Reigns and Rollins is a clear indicator that WWE is absolutely gonna call out guys who fail tests via storyline. If they called out their beloved Roman Reigns, damn right they're gonna call out a part timer. Even if that part-timer is a big bad beast.
Pretty sure you are wrong. First off, he's not "a part timer" he's "a big draw". And I know the fact that he's a big draw does't change the fact that he's a part timer but I do believe it's the viewpoint of the WWE. Also, Jericho's reaction to me said "man you are getting fined for that one!" But more importantly, Lesnar didn't fail a WWE drug test. We still don't know what drug is in his system, for all we know, it's not a substance that is banned by the WWE. If he's clean for his WWE match, as far as the WWE is concerned, whatever happened outside is irrelevant.
I'm so glad you are calling out the super kick. This has bugged me for a while too - growing up hardly anyone kicked except for the Heartbreak Kid and when he raised that foot it was a big deal! Now on average we see 2-3 super kicks per match well its not so super anymore!
Tony P They have a pretty solid fan base being the biggest tag team outside wwe and being with BC in New Japan so I would say allot of people watch them
charles Williams Yeah I'm a fan of the Young Bucks they are pretty buddy buddy with the superkick but then again no one else in NJPW really uses it. At least compared to the WWE.
Here's what I kinda hope happens on Raw now. Steph is salty about not having the title so she introduces a new one and announces a tournament to decide who who will hold it first. The finals take place at summer slam between Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns (Boo), the finish is Seth is about to win when he gets clobbered from behind by triple H who reveals he's working with Roman, screws Seth and pulls a double turn. That sets up a nice feud for the rest of the year with the crowd reactions the right way around and plants the seeds for the Triple H v Seth match that they were gonna have at WM32
Nah Fam Roman spears everyone, takes the title, Superman punches the buildings foundation and kills all the lesser internet favorites in the collapse. obvs man obvs
+HellishWeavile Gaming A couple months ago I would have agreed but clearly they're pissed with Roman, he's been pinned clean in the main event of the last 2 PPV's so I'm stupidly getting my hopes up that they're done trying to make him Samoan Cena.
+Jacob Newby Personally I just want to see them try to sell us on Roman killing a building. That would be hilarious. You do have a point I suppose. i guess I just got sick of them shoving 'not a good fuck, not a bad fuck, just a stupid fuck' reigns down everyone's throat. I do wonder how this has all affected him when he sees how unliked he is.
When people do "finishers" such as the superkick with it not finishing people, I see it more along the lines of "yeah sure, they can do the move, but only HBK does it good enough to put people down. The DDT became just a standard move, but when Jake the Snake did it, you did NOT get back up. Same with any other move. Whoever used it as a finisher is the best at doing that move and they know how to do it effectively. At least that's how the narrative in my mind goes
Definitely one of the better Battleground ppv's. Hilights for me were definitely Zayn vs Owens hands DOWN the best match of the night. New Day vs Wyatts and womens tag match with bayley (great body). I found it funny that even though rollins got a superman punch and spear, that REIGNS lost the match. lol
4:00 WWE seems to not consider the WWE Women's Championship to share lineage with the WWE Diva's Championship or the old WWF/E Women's Championship, so Charlotte is technically only around 100 days into her current reign. It's stupid, I know.
At the actual event before Becky's match they started to play the experts panel on the screen so I feel a lot of people thought there was going to be a brief intermission(my self included) when in reality it only lasted a few minutes. Because of that a lot of people got up. I ran back when I slightly heard Becky's entrance.
I hate when people get pissed about everyone using a superkick and not finishing people off. Why should a mid 90's finisher finish people off in 2016? And why should it be more protected than a dropkick or german suplex?
Because even if the other normal moves are mid 90 finishing moves, people stopped using them as finishers long ago, meanwhile, Michaels used the superkick as a finishing move in this decade, thats takes credibility of the move Michaels knock out opponents, and that piss people off
My interpretation is that it shows that Shawn was strong. He perfected the superkick to the point where he could finish people off with it, whereas all these guys haven't got it to that level and their superkick isn't as good as Shawns.
i consider the superkick the same way i see the ddt. once it was a finsher not its a breath break as the guy lay on the mat and consider what going on in the life before they take the next finisher. I mean guys are no selling a ton of moves now .. case in point roman no selling the turn buckle powerbomb to hit his superman punch so he could take dean dirty deeds..
I thought the same exact thing about Mojo running out and then doing nothing. I was like "Why are you not hitting Rusev?" Either he should have tackled him immediately or Rusev should have rolled out before Mojo got in. When I watch Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens wrestle I get the feeling that they trust eachother so much that they're willing to do big spots with eachother anywhere at any time and when they wrestle they make it look so real yet so effortless. Like the brainbuster on the apron and the super kick to counter the diving DDT...that was timed so perfectly. And the cannonball that immediately followed looked great because it looked like Zayn colided with the post. But then to follow that match with Lynch vs Natalia made no sense because it sucked the excitement level down. No match really had a chance to follow it but if they had opened the show strong with the Wyatts vs New Day and then do Lynch vs Nattie and saved Sasha Banks and Bailey until after Zayn vs Owens, I think the crowd and me and people at home would have maintained our enthusiasm and it probably would have carried through all the way to the main event.
It is painfully obvious that he was brought in to team with Ryder to create a new tag team. Especially when you see how few tag teams are on Smackdown.
Does Charlottes record count or was it a reign with the Divas belt which ended when she won the woman's belt a WM thus counting as 2 reigns since they are separate belts.
What caused the DQ? Maryse appig Backlund? A little late for that. Miz pushing Backlund? That's not how DQ's work. Young doing a submission outside the ring? Still not how DQ's work.
It was a botched and rushed double count out. The ref should have restarted the count when DY entered the ring. And the ref should have restarted the count *again* when DY exited the ring to attack Miz.
Final deletion and compound were filmed exactly the same way and within a week of each other. One of them saw the other and ripped it off. It's not just that they were filmed outside.
How would that make any sense? Just because it's the US title? It's been confirmed Angle won't be available for a contract for the rest of 2016. He's taking a break.
No Brian, this is how it works: Charotte defeats Nikki for the title at Night of Champions 2015 and vacates it at Wrestlemania 32, which means the Divas title is vacated and Charlotte is the champ. Nikki won the title in November 2014 and lost it at September 2015, thats around 10 months. Charlotte won the title in September 2015 and vacated it at April 2016, thats around 8 months. Then the Divas title is vacated and Charlotte is the last champ bit not the one with the longest reign.
The weirdest thing about the IC title match ending for me was that Darren put Miz in a cobra clutch instead of the cross face chicken wing. Also Dean pinning Roman, which they never let him do before, speaks volumes as to his place in the company now.
I was thinking about this when watching the show. What about Cesaro? He wanted a draft to Smackdown, so why don't they occasionally put on matches that gives the winner a choice if they want to be drafted? They wouldn't happen often, but I think it would add an interesting dynamic. The idea is there but maybe my phrasing was a little bit shaky. Please let me know what you think!
I agree about the superkicks. I was telling people back when ziggler and owens were feuding that you could make a drinking game by taking a shot everytime someone does a superkick.
Owens vs Zayn completely blew my mind. I felt like I was watching an old El Genrico vs Kevin Steen match. Zayn scared the shit out of me with that moonsault off the ropes, that was crazy. I really hope Owens demands a trade to Smackdown, there needs to be a little more star power for Smackdown. Bayley getting her big pop nearly teared me up, no joke. I was so happy for her, she deserved it. Can't wait to see her on the main roster full time. Ambrose winning was another shocker. Could of swore Rollins would of finished him off and a new World Championship would be introduced for Smackdown as well. The super kick to became super cool to use because of The Young Bucks, its gets such a great pop from those 2 doing it now it seems like the trendy thing to do now. But great wins for Nattie, The Wyatts, Cena Enzo & Cass. The U.S. & I.C. titles are turning into jokes again. The booking really needs to step it up for those 2 title bouts. Those 2 matches were a complete joke to me, just terrible silly finishes.
The over use of the super kick reminds me of the 90s when it was called a back crescent kick. I used to wonder why it wasn't a finisher. Now its like the DDT and German Suplex.
The title remaining on Smackdown was the most likely outcome, IMO. One of my big gripes about the breakdown of the titles in the draft was you had 3 titles on Raw (4 if you include the forthcoming Cruiserweight title) and 2 on Smackdown, and as you (and a lot of other places) brought up in the draft review, Raw just ended up with what seems like a better roster overall. One of the few things that Smackdown had going for it was that it was holding THE big title, and if it lost that, then what? About the only other option that didn't leave Smackdown looking like the B show (again) would be if there was another double pin between Dean and one of the two Raw guys, thus leading to some fights over who's the "true" champion and eventually both shows making their own championship belts. This is a possible angle for Summer Slam, but that's for a month from now.
I think the #WWEDraft was a good idea, and everyone complains about something here and there. It should be a good change, with both #RAW and #SmackDownLIVE. When they were all one show there was so much talent that didn't get to work or was put on the shelf in favor of others. This brand extension will give others a place to shine.
1. Anothe reason why I doubt WWE copied TNA is because when have they ever copied them? This is hardly the 90s with ECW. 2. The highlight reel sounds a good way to re-introduce Orton. It makes sense that Jericho was involved too given their history. 3. Carlito has too much of a murky history for WWE to bring him back I think. Benjamin might work as a one off or maybe a min-feud with a younger guy.
PRetty much the same grade / score I gave it. It does make me want to watch WWE for the next month to see what happens on RAW with no big title and Smackdown WITH the big title. So it did it's job, for a "PPV before a Big 4 event" PPV
the reason charlotte "breaking nikki's reign" isnt being recognised is because she hasnt TECHNICALLY beaten nikki's reign. nikki held the DIVAS title for 301 days whereas charlotte held the DIVAS title for 196. theyre not taking into consideration the time charlotte has spent as WOMENS champion because its a completely different belt. it has nothing to do with backstage politics or anything of the sort.
I'm interested to see how they handle the title in the new brand extension. I believe you can only have one champion. If you try and have two, one will inevitably be seen as the lesser title. In the early days of the previous brand split the champ would travel between both shows. Maybe this time have a Raw challenger one month and a Smackdown challenger the next, with the 'off' month for both being about becoming number one contender. It would keep the main events fresh but would be problematic building PPV's when champion and challenger are on separate shows. I'm just snowballing ideas here of course...
Breezeango vs The Usos: no storyline, but decent match. At least Tyler Breeze and Fandango have something good going Sasha Banks/Bayley vs Charlotte/Dana Brooke: Bayley's only appearance on the main roster until after Summerslam. Good Match. Sasha vs Charlotte at Summerslam The New Day vs The Wyatt Family: The Wyatts deserve the victory because of being split up. Xavier Woods needs to have more ring time, he can do well in the midcard. Rusev vs Ryder: Okay match, Ryder put off a lot of offense but Rusev is becoming stronger and better. RIP Mojo Rawley. Sami Zayn vs Kevin Owens: MOTY candidate. Zayn gets redemption and hope he becomes a top contender for US Title. Owens on the other hand, doesn't look weak, maybe a contender for 2nd world title. Great Match. Becky Lynch vs Natalya: Pee break match, the trouble of being after Zayn vs Owens. Miz/Young: BS way to end the match. A double countout??? Work on Darren Young's gimmick and you have a midcard champion. Cena/Enzo & Cass vs The Club: The New Era was showcased throughout the match. Anderson and Gallows looked strong as ever, contenders for tag team championship. Enzo and Cass were put over very good. AJ vs Cena III at Summerslam and AJ wins The Highlight Reel w/ Randy Orton: "No enhancement needed" end of story The Shield triple threat: Great match. Ambrose wins, deserves it. Roman Reigns got booed throughout the match, even when he entered the ring. Seth Rollins is not weak. SD Live has the champion but Raw will create a new title. Overall show: 8.0/10
Maybe neither has to turn, at least until after the team has been together for a while. Have some sort of tag team tournament (maybe a vacant tag title tourni), and have Zayn & Owens put together as a team, and if they turn on each other, they're both suspended. They win their matches up to the semifinals, where they're beat by Anderson & Gallows. They stay together, & Owens slowly starts a face turn, becoming a tweener for now.
If you look up the current WWE Women's Championship, Charlotte is the first ever titleholder, despite there being a WWE Women's Championship in the past. The Diva's title was not renamed, it was retired and a new belt awarded to Charlotte at WM. So she technically did not break Nikki Bella's record, since that was the Diva's title. However Charlotte is breaking her own record for longest WWE Women's Championship every day she holds it!
I was at Battleground, it was my first WWE show and had my WWW shirt on and everything. I knew it would be a good crowd when, in the opening video package, everyone furiously booed a 5 second image of Reigns...
Overall, great review Brian. However, I think you are crazy if you think that having Lita come out would be a letdown compared to Bailey. I think that would have been a nostalgia pop to rival Shane O'Mac in Detroit a few months back.
They should have an elimination chamber at Summerslam for the new world heavyweight championship: Cesaro vs KO vs Roman vs Seth vs Chris Jericho vs Sheamus
My friend said the same thing. I think when Xavier saved Kofi from the Sister Abigail they was counted as a tag since they made physical contact. Yea it wasnt done in the corner but that's the only "logical" reason I can think of.
I didn't see the first time but on a second viewing there was a tag made in the corner between Kofi and Xavier but it was not that clear because the camera was on it for less than a second, but they could have made it easier for us to see the tag, that is why I got confused.
I agree with pretty much everything you said except for one thing: The Club didn't look that good. ESPECIALLY Gallows. At the start he try to interfere and get hit almost by accident. Outside of the ring, he charge toward Enzo and hit himself on the steel post. Try to do a body splash to the man on the ground? Enzo escape, Gallows hurt himself AGAIN. At the end of the match, what does he do? Charge Cena, Cena doge and Gallows hit himself on the turnbuckle...AGAIN. And he pretty much only did a Jackhamm,r the magic killer and the choke Bomb. Gallows looked so bad. And even Karl Anderson KO himself, by doing what? Charging toward Enzo, miss and hit hismelf on the turnbuckle. I don't know what it is with The Club and turnbuckles but they gonna have to stay away from them.
The reason they might not be touting the Record for Charlotte, is because they retired the Diva's Belt? So it makes sense if they're legitimately counting the Women's Belt as a new "Reign" I guess?
Z Man its kind of weird how the 4 major US promotions do something similar with in a week of each other. LU fenix had to be an iron man in Aztec Warfare (i believe this was filmed first) and Reigns had to do the same at Royal Rumble (Aired First) TNA hardy boyz final deletion and Wyatt/Newday compound fight. ROH has the tag tournament, loves tournies, and as that is being aired over a couple episodes and WWE has a cruiserweight tourney, they don't often use tournaments. Do you think this is that "collective unconscious" "multiple discovery" thing or is this a response to the IWC requesting these things, that i haven't noticed?
It was mentioned on the last episode of NXT that Bayley still has a rematch clause in her contract that she has not cashed in yet on the current NXT Women's champ Asuka. This might be one reason as to why Bayley has not been drafted yet to the main roster. Also, this is not the first time an active NXT roster member went back and forth from NXT and the main roster (Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn both did this).
I think the problem with the super kick is that it's pretty much just a generic move, similar to the big boot that has been used by Hulk Hogan, Andrea the Giant and others big guys, pretty much anyone can do it and doesn't take a fancy set up, same goes for the DDT, Jake put everyone away with that, and now when was the last time someone won a match with that move?
Charlotte doesn't have the record though, because the two belts are different. Trish Stratus held the Women's Title for over 400 days at one point. The Fabulous Mulah had it for like 10,000. The Divas Title and the Womens Title are two different belts.
Yo real quick, why did the Usos put Ambrose on his shoulders when they just saw their cousin lose. I get because they're both smackdown but still, I just thought that others would have made more sense to put him up.
The reason that Charlotte doesn't get any mention as record holder is that the Women's Championship is a brand new title that traces its lineage back to wrestlemania. The new championship doesn't carry on the legacy of the diva's championship. Just like how New Day can claim to hold the record for tag team titles because that belt traces its lineage back to 2002.
I believe that Roman wasn't meant to be the face of the company that everyone believes. I believe they wanted to build these guys as main eventers so they all get a chance to hold the belt first half of 2015 was Seth beginning of 2016 is Roman and now we got Dean
I'm not a huge fan of Orton, but I laughed my ass off at the "enhancement" comment. If they punish him for it, they'd be major hypocrites after spending a whole month trashing their boy Reigns just to have him main event a PPV.
honestly, with the amount of times orton has been popped by the wellness policy, it's hypocritical anyway.
+Thomas Jenkins how long ago were they, though?
Evo Fume
not long enough ago that he can call someone out for it.
+Thomas Jenkins there's a difference between smoking a joint and cheating in a legitimate MMA fight
Lesner is gonna hit him with some stiff shots now
I thought it was an amazing show. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn stole the show for me, incredible storytelling from how Kevin Owens begged Sami Zayn to stay down so he doesn't have to keep beating on him to Sami Zayn holding Kevin Owens before his 2nd helluva kick. The tag match was also incredible too, as was the shield triple threat. They need to give Woods some more time to shine he's a great worker
The Superkick has become the DDT. The DDT used to be a devastating finisher. Now it is a transitional move.
I think they dont count the new womens champion as the divas champion which is why they havent done no celebration, unless WWE silently recognized it
I just think it's a fucking joke Charlotte has now gone two PPV's without having to defend her title
If I remember correctly, Lita did say that the Diva's title was retired during her speech on the raw after mania.
Yeah the Women's Belt has new history.
+Albel217 nikky bella and aj lee almost never defend their titles so in comparison this reign is great
+Peter Salizzoni yeah those reigns were a joke too. AJ Lee was the Diva we needed but didn't deserve and Nikki isn't COMPLETELY terrible but I have no respect for reigns where the champ goes for months without defending it
did anyone else see the "reigns must be deleted" sign, that was sign of the night for me
And the Ambrose fears Brother Nero sign.
I saw one that said Ambrose fears Brother Nero during his entrance
delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete
Brother Deano...
Although let's be fair, Rusev's reaction to Mojo was Oscar worthy.
I'm really surprised that the wwe title is on smackdown that's quite a pleasant surprise.
+Anson D. Grimes hopefully they atleast wait to wrestlemania for that, at summerslam I see dean vs John cena vs aj styles for the title or just aj or bray wyatt
you are right
+Anson D. Grimes I read an article that Cena says he doesn't want to win the World title again
is it just me or did they call the see worldheavyweight championship the see championship? Go back and rewatch the announcing part. you can also can hear it on Tuesday night smackdown
wwe*
The whole Nikki Bella breaking AJ's reign was to bury AJ after how she left. It was never about Nikki.
AJ left on pretty good terms. It was her husband who whined, cried, and then tanked her career.
Agreed it was never about Nikki, though.
+seymourglass26 the problem was AJ left right before WrestleMania without telling anyone in advance, Punk didn't help matters though
+A54321 her last match was at wrestlemania 31...
Aaron Clarke Yes in a tag match because she had literally just quit weeks before, leaving creative in a very tight position.
The Usos face on Dean's celebration...I mean, they were a tiny bit really pissed off :v
It was kind of punishment for Roman reigns. Being pinned clean by dean once more time in a row and then made to job out to fin balor on raw the next night. Im glad fin balor won. Plus the usos are like his family and are hoisting the man who just pinned him clean on their shoulders
you're right with the Charlotte record thing HOWEVER, the divas title is currently treated differently from the women's title. Charlotte held the Divas title for 196 days so she didn't break the Divas title record thats still Nikki Bellas's Technically and then she held the Women's title for 113 days so she has the record for the new women's belt since she's the only one to hold it yet beside the new champ Sasha (excluding the lita and trish days). So yes, she has the record for being on top the female superstars division with 196+113 but TECHNICALLY Nikki Bella still holds the record for the divas belt specifically.
I would actually love to see Sami and Kevin as a tag team
That would not make any sense though
+Raider2K It could be like a mutual respect for one another and not friends, it still doesn't make much sense but it makes a tiny bit of sense
Anything besides them fighting each other would be a marked improvement
+Raider2K well they're best friends in real life...
It didn't work out that well for them when they did about six years ago. It apparently hurt there real life friendship.
As someone in the crowd last night, thanks for the compliment :D
Technically, Charlotte didn't hold the Diva's championship long enough to break Nikki's record. Her reign as champion lasted longer, but it was 200 ish days as Diva's and 100 ish as Women's
This was the best WWE PPV I've seen in a long while. I have very few complaints, really, and they're so minor that they're not even worth mentioning.
Sweet Chin Music is the only protected Superkick...and you have to drum up the band first. That being said...boost Ziggler's Superkick, at least he puts on the showmanship.
I just think Roman Reigns with his damn Superman Punch outta no where is ridiculous
His no-sells don't really follow ring or story-telling logic. He'll bump and sell, look actually hurt, and then he's fine 3 seconds later.
seymourglass26 So the next John Cena? XD
it only looks good if the other wrestler is initially facing the other way + doesn't know its coming until they turn around
ConveyedAsh
With some serious work, lol.
yep Roman Cena Lol
No title on RAW means the #1 ranked RAW wrestler is Rusev...... I'm 100% okay with this.
There probably is gonna be a World Heavyweight Championship for Raw.
Yeah Rusev is cool
+Naliwah history repeats itself
not sure if your serious or just trolling btit its more then obvious Raw is going to get a world championship as well
+Naliwah Hopefully not...
The reason that Charlotte's reign was not celebrated as "the longest reign" was because the WWE Women's Title is a new title with her reign beginning at WrestleMania as day 1. The Divas Title was deactivated. So, that reign ended at WrestleMania and is not added in as a continuation since WWE does not want to use that linage (for now).
the issue with super kicks isn't that big of a deal. if anything it says that shaw Michaels hits THE BEST super kicks and everyone else can't do them as good as hbk
Sounds like the next Botchamania episode is going to be a long one.
I don't know if Maffew would put some of those both he's normally a little bit more respectful of botch led that could have been career/life threatening.
Actually, he would definitely put up failed spots that 'almost' caused major injuries. In fact, he puts up botches like that all the time. He held off on showing the Enzo one again mainly because the WWE were milking it for sympathy for Enzo and Cass, which was a bit sick.
+Joe Homer It's not at all sick, it helped put them over. If they hadn't talked about Enzo or the injury, it would have just killed their momentum. Everyone saw it on live TV, why hide it?
***** No, I get mentioning it, After all, injured superstars always get good pops when they return to action. But they replayed it so much that week. It wasn't a nice thing to witness the first time, let alone the sixth.
+Joe Homer Ahhhhhhhhhhh, I see what ya mean.
Rusev, Ziggler, Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, Kevin Owens, Tyler Breeze, Seth rollins, Alberto Del Rio, Luke Harper, the super kick is over used and i know im missing someone.
Neville
Roman Reigns. Kappa.
KO was using it before it was a cool move to use. Sure HBK started it all but KO was superkick people all the way back in 2002.
Being there in the crowd was unreal. So much fun and different than watching on tv and that apron spot was absolutely insane.
Long distance booking, twenty years down the road, Owens and Zayn get inducted into the HOF in the same year. They jaw back and forth as to who gives their speech first. Whoever goes first get interrupted by a run in and they both give their speeches as they brawl.
WWE doesn't talk about the length of Charlotte's title reign because they are, technically, two separate reigns. She was only Diva's Champion for 196 days. Since she is the first Women's Champion (the first Women's Championship for some reason has a different lineage), it's a given that her reign is the longest.
And Cena yet again had to deliver the Shovel by burying the Club...
loved the delayed reaction after you said snot rocket, like you realized "...did I just create an image of Mojo Rawley giving Rusev a snot rocket?"
You misspoke. You said "fly swatter," but I think you meant to say "swy flatter."
Also, I think WWE wanted Orton to mention the Lesnar "enhancement" thing. I think the whole situation with Reigns and Rollins is a clear indicator that WWE is absolutely gonna call out guys who fail tests via storyline. If they called out their beloved Roman Reigns, damn right they're gonna call out a part timer. Even if that part-timer is a big bad beast.
Do you think there's a rule against making fun of his chest tattoo, though? It's such an obvious target for mockery.
seymourglass26 Don't you dare mention that in my presence again.
SkilesHasFun
Why? You got your own baby-sword tattooed on your chest?
Pretty sure you are wrong. First off, he's not "a part timer" he's "a big draw". And I know the fact that he's a big draw does't change the fact that he's a part timer but I do believe it's the viewpoint of the WWE. Also, Jericho's reaction to me said "man you are getting fined for that one!" But more importantly, Lesnar didn't fail a WWE drug test. We still don't know what drug is in his system, for all we know, it's not a substance that is banned by the WWE. If he's clean for his WWE match, as far as the WWE is concerned, whatever happened outside is irrelevant.
I'm so glad you are calling out the super kick. This has bugged me for a while too - growing up hardly anyone kicked except for the Heartbreak Kid and when he raised that foot it was a big deal! Now on average we see 2-3 super kicks per match well its not so super anymore!
Exactly. The superkick being overused is ridiculous and drives me nuts.
don't watch a young bucks match
charles Williams Does anyone?
Tony P They have a pretty solid fan base being the biggest tag team outside wwe and being with BC in New Japan so I would say allot of people watch them
charles Williams
Yeah I'm a fan of the Young Bucks they are pretty buddy buddy with the superkick but then again no one else in NJPW really uses it. At least compared to the WWE.
Here's what I kinda hope happens on Raw now. Steph is salty about not having the title so she introduces a new one and announces a tournament to decide who who will hold it first. The finals take place at summer slam between Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns (Boo), the finish is Seth is about to win when he gets clobbered from behind by triple H who reveals he's working with Roman, screws Seth and pulls a double turn. That sets up a nice feud for the rest of the year with the crowd reactions the right way around and plants the seeds for the Triple H v Seth match that they were gonna have at WM32
i was thinking the same thing i feel like its going to happen but lets see what they have in store for raw tonight
Nah Fam Roman spears everyone, takes the title, Superman punches the buildings foundation and kills all the lesser internet favorites in the collapse.
obvs man obvs
+HellishWeavile Gaming A couple months ago I would have agreed but clearly they're pissed with Roman, he's been pinned clean in the main event of the last 2 PPV's so I'm stupidly getting my hopes up that they're done trying to make him Samoan Cena.
+Jacob Newby Personally I just want to see them try to sell us on Roman killing a building. That would be hilarious.
You do have a point I suppose. i guess I just got sick of them shoving 'not a good fuck, not a bad fuck, just a stupid fuck' reigns down everyone's throat. I do wonder how this has all affected him when he sees how unliked he is.
screw that... they should just bury reigns and put Balor in the finals against Rollins
Haha love going back on these recent year PPV reviews and hearing gems like this: 19:22
Like the time-stamps in the description Brian!
That Owens and Zane match was totally match of the night. I loved it. They even got a standing ovation.
When people do "finishers" such as the superkick with it not finishing people, I see it more along the lines of "yeah sure, they can do the move, but only HBK does it good enough to put people down. The DDT became just a standard move, but when Jake the Snake did it, you did NOT get back up. Same with any other move. Whoever used it as a finisher is the best at doing that move and they know how to do it effectively.
At least that's how the narrative in my mind goes
Right
Definitely one of the better Battleground ppv's. Hilights for me were definitely Zayn vs Owens hands DOWN the best match of the night. New Day vs Wyatts and womens tag match with bayley (great body). I found it funny that even though rollins got a superman punch and spear, that REIGNS lost the match. lol
enzo dropping the best promo of the year
+TbonePlays did he? I hit mute whenever I see Enzo. 😀
Sask RuffRiders Yep he dissed the crap out of styles
Zayn-Owens was fantastic! Still 2nd best match of the year for me. Zayn-Nakamura was way better IMO.
i thought the owens match was better tbh
+Samsational Can't blame you. It was phenomenal.
4:00 WWE seems to not consider the WWE Women's Championship to share lineage with the WWE Diva's Championship or the old WWF/E Women's Championship, so Charlotte is technically only around 100 days into her current reign. It's stupid, I know.
At the actual event before Becky's match they started to play the experts panel on the screen so I feel a lot of people thought there was going to be a brief intermission(my self included) when in reality it only lasted a few minutes. Because of that a lot of people got up. I ran back when I slightly heard Becky's entrance.
Frankly the only good part of final deletion is Matt's face when Jeff had the fireworks launcher.
The Superkick is the modern day DDT
I hate when people get pissed about everyone using a superkick and not finishing people off. Why should a mid 90's finisher finish people off in 2016? And why should it be more protected than a dropkick or german suplex?
Because it shawn won with that finisher for a long time and it makes him look weak if everyone is kicking out of it now
Because even if the other normal moves are mid 90 finishing moves, people stopped using them as finishers long ago, meanwhile, Michaels used the superkick as a finishing move in this decade, thats takes credibility of the move Michaels knock out opponents, and that piss people off
My interpretation is that it shows that Shawn was strong. He perfected the superkick to the point where he could finish people off with it, whereas all these guys haven't got it to that level and their superkick isn't as good as Shawns.
i consider the superkick the same way i see the ddt. once it was a finsher not its a breath break as the guy lay on the mat and consider what going on in the life before they take the next finisher. I mean guys are no selling a ton of moves now .. case in point roman no selling the turn buckle powerbomb to hit his superman punch so he could take dean dirty deeds..
I thought the same exact thing about Mojo running out and then doing nothing. I was like "Why are you not hitting Rusev?" Either he should have tackled him immediately or Rusev should have rolled out before Mojo got in. When I watch Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens wrestle I get the feeling that they trust eachother so much that they're willing to do big spots with eachother anywhere at any time and when they wrestle they make it look so real yet so effortless. Like the brainbuster on the apron and the super kick to counter the diving DDT...that was timed so perfectly. And the cannonball that immediately followed looked great because it looked like Zayn colided with the post. But then to follow that match with Lynch vs Natalia made no sense because it sucked the excitement level down. No match really had a chance to follow it but if they had opened the show strong with the Wyatts vs New Day and then do Lynch vs Nattie and saved Sasha Banks and Bailey until after Zayn vs Owens, I think the crowd and me and people at home would have maintained our enthusiasm and it probably would have carried through all the way to the main event.
With a name like Mojo Rawley, he'll most likely be low to mid-card material at best. Unless of course the WWE changes his name and gimmick.
hes a jobber through and through. called up to job. pretty obvious.
BurntRAM That is true
Like Elias Sampson
They'll have him grow a beard and join the Wyatts, obviously!
It is painfully obvious that he was brought in to team with Ryder to create a new tag team. Especially when you see how few tag teams are on Smackdown.
Apart from the women's tag match, and the IC title match, this was a great PPV. The Zayn/Owens match had me on the edge of my seat.
I was grounded when it came on but still got to watch it live
Does Charlottes record count or was it a reign with the Divas belt which ended when she won the woman's belt a WM thus counting as 2 reigns since they are separate belts.
Loved this PPV SummerSlam should be an amazing show with all the superstar healthy
What caused the DQ? Maryse appig Backlund? A little late for that. Miz pushing Backlund? That's not how DQ's work. Young doing a submission outside the ring? Still not how DQ's work.
I honestly don't think it was a DQ, just a no contest.
yeah, exactly. that's been bugging me for a few hours now, glad someone else feels the same way.
***** But how? What caused the ref to throw the match out? Wasn't long enough for a double count out either.
It was a botched and rushed double count out. The ref should have restarted the count when DY entered the ring. And the ref should have restarted the count *again* when DY exited the ring to attack Miz.
***** It wasn't. There was no reason for anyone to get DQ'd. It was a double count out, and a botched one at that.
Final deletion and compound were filmed exactly the same way and within a week of each other. One of them saw the other and ripped it off. It's not just that they were filmed outside.
Zane! Do more reviews! I want your Raw and Smackdown Live reviews! Why not??
was anybody else begging that Angles music hit instead of Rawleys
How would that make any sense? Just because it's the US title? It's been confirmed Angle won't be available for a contract for the rest of 2016. He's taking a break.
it was really just for my self indulgence and I had no idea that he was out for a break
+Heresiarch dumbass
No Brian, this is how it works: Charotte defeats Nikki for the title at Night of Champions 2015 and vacates it at Wrestlemania 32, which means the Divas title is vacated and Charlotte is the champ. Nikki won the title in November 2014 and lost it at September 2015, thats around 10 months. Charlotte won the title in September 2015 and vacated it at April 2016, thats around 8 months. Then the Divas title is vacated and Charlotte is the last champ bit not the one with the longest reign.
Brian welcome to the SUPERKICK PARTY!!!
The weirdest thing about the IC title match ending for me was that Darren put Miz in a cobra clutch instead of the cross face chicken wing.
Also Dean pinning Roman, which they never let him do before, speaks volumes as to his place in the company now.
I was thinking about this when watching the show. What about Cesaro? He wanted a draft to Smackdown, so why don't they occasionally put on matches that gives the winner a choice if they want to be drafted? They wouldn't happen often, but I think it would add an interesting dynamic. The idea is there but maybe my phrasing was a little bit shaky. Please let me know what you think!
Totally agree with you Brian about the super kick. I've been thinking this for a while now but it is definitely overused today.
The "No enhancement needed" line was fucking great.
This was definitely the best PPV for 2016 until now.
I agree about the superkicks. I was telling people back when ziggler and owens were feuding that you could make a drinking game by taking a shot everytime someone does a superkick.
Owens vs Zayn completely blew my mind. I felt like I was watching an old El Genrico vs Kevin Steen match. Zayn scared the shit out of me with that moonsault off the ropes, that was crazy. I really hope Owens demands a trade to Smackdown, there needs to be a little more star power for Smackdown. Bayley getting her big pop nearly teared me up, no joke. I was so happy for her, she deserved it. Can't wait to see her on the main roster full time. Ambrose winning was another shocker. Could of swore Rollins would of finished him off and a new World Championship would be introduced for Smackdown as well. The super kick to became super cool to use because of The Young Bucks, its gets such a great pop from those 2 doing it now it seems like the trendy thing to do now. But great wins for Nattie, The Wyatts, Cena Enzo & Cass. The U.S. & I.C. titles are turning into jokes again. The booking really needs to step it up for those 2 title bouts. Those 2 matches were a complete joke to me, just terrible silly finishes.
The over use of the super kick reminds me of the 90s when it was called a back crescent kick. I used to wonder why it wasn't a finisher. Now its like the DDT and German Suplex.
The title remaining on Smackdown was the most likely outcome, IMO. One of my big gripes about the breakdown of the titles in the draft was you had 3 titles on Raw (4 if you include the forthcoming Cruiserweight title) and 2 on Smackdown, and as you (and a lot of other places) brought up in the draft review, Raw just ended up with what seems like a better roster overall. One of the few things that Smackdown had going for it was that it was holding THE big title, and if it lost that, then what?
About the only other option that didn't leave Smackdown looking like the B show (again) would be if there was another double pin between Dean and one of the two Raw guys, thus leading to some fights over who's the "true" champion and eventually both shows making their own championship belts. This is a possible angle for Summer Slam, but that's for a month from now.
I think the #WWEDraft was a good idea, and everyone complains about something here and there. It should be a good change, with both #RAW and #SmackDownLIVE. When they were all one show there was so much talent that didn't get to work or was put on the shelf in favor of others. This brand extension will give others a place to shine.
1. Anothe reason why I doubt WWE copied TNA is because when have they ever copied them? This is hardly the 90s with ECW.
2. The highlight reel sounds a good way to re-introduce Orton. It makes sense that Jericho was involved too given their history.
3. Carlito has too much of a murky history for WWE to bring him back I think. Benjamin might work as a one off or maybe a min-feud with a younger guy.
PRetty much the same grade / score I gave it. It does make me want to watch WWE for the next month to see what happens on RAW with no big title and Smackdown WITH the big title.
So it did it's job, for a "PPV before a Big 4 event" PPV
the reason charlotte "breaking nikki's reign" isnt being recognised is because she hasnt TECHNICALLY beaten nikki's reign. nikki held the DIVAS title for 301 days whereas charlotte held the DIVAS title for 196. theyre not taking into consideration the time charlotte has spent as WOMENS champion because its a completely different belt. it has nothing to do with backstage politics or anything of the sort.
The last time Ambrose,Rollins and Reigns were in the same match was last year in the build up to Night Of Champions in a 6man tag match vs the Wyatts
I'm interested to see how they handle the title in the new brand extension. I believe you can only have one champion. If you try and have two, one will inevitably be seen as the lesser title. In the early days of the previous brand split the champ would travel between both shows. Maybe this time have a Raw challenger one month and a Smackdown challenger the next, with the 'off' month for both being about becoming number one contender. It would keep the main events fresh but would be problematic building PPV's when champion and challenger are on separate shows. I'm just snowballing ideas here of course...
I agree with you about the super kick thing. It pisses me off that so many are using the super kick as a regular move.
+Wrestling With Wregret please tell me u r going to review raw n because it was amazing especially banks vs charlotte
I have a feeling that match was Zayn and Owen's "last match" is the same way that Cena vs The Rock was a "Once in a lifetime match".
Breezeango vs The Usos: no storyline, but decent match. At least Tyler Breeze and Fandango have something good going
Sasha Banks/Bayley vs Charlotte/Dana Brooke: Bayley's only appearance on the main roster until after Summerslam. Good Match. Sasha vs Charlotte at Summerslam
The New Day vs The Wyatt Family: The Wyatts deserve the victory because of being split up. Xavier Woods needs to have more ring time, he can do well in the midcard.
Rusev vs Ryder: Okay match, Ryder put off a lot of offense but Rusev is becoming stronger and better. RIP Mojo Rawley.
Sami Zayn vs Kevin Owens: MOTY candidate. Zayn gets redemption and hope he becomes a top contender for US Title. Owens on the other hand, doesn't look weak, maybe a contender for 2nd world title. Great Match.
Becky Lynch vs Natalya: Pee break match, the trouble of being after Zayn vs Owens.
Miz/Young: BS way to end the match. A double countout??? Work on Darren Young's gimmick and you have a midcard champion.
Cena/Enzo & Cass vs The Club: The New Era was showcased throughout the match. Anderson and Gallows looked strong as ever, contenders for tag team championship. Enzo and Cass were put over very good. AJ vs Cena III at Summerslam and AJ wins
The Highlight Reel w/ Randy Orton: "No enhancement needed" end of story
The Shield triple threat: Great match. Ambrose wins, deserves it. Roman Reigns got booed throughout the match, even when he entered the ring. Seth Rollins is not weak. SD Live has the champion but Raw will create a new title.
Overall show: 8.0/10
It awesome that both Sami and Shinsuke both have two MOTY candidates.
Yeah the superkick is a big thing in TNA as well. Never noticed until you said it, Bryan
I think Sami and Owens would be a good tag team storyline. They could be dominate, but would Owens turn face for the team up or would Zane turn heel?
Maybe neither has to turn, at least until after the team has been together for a while. Have some sort of tag team tournament (maybe a vacant tag title tourni), and have Zayn & Owens put together as a team, and if they turn on each other, they're both suspended. They win their matches up to the semifinals, where they're beat by Anderson & Gallows. They stay together, & Owens slowly starts a face turn, becoming a tweener for now.
Wesley Wiggins I did like the moment in Raw where they double teamed kicked Chris Jerico
Hey Brian,but what about the DDT?Nobody used to get up after Jake Roberts put'em down with it,but nowadays it's a commonplace move
If you look up the current WWE Women's Championship, Charlotte is the first ever titleholder, despite there being a WWE Women's Championship in the past. The Diva's title was not renamed, it was retired and a new belt awarded to Charlotte at WM. So she technically did not break Nikki Bella's record, since that was the Diva's title. However Charlotte is breaking her own record for longest WWE Women's Championship every day she holds it!
I was at Battleground, it was my first WWE show and had my WWW shirt on and everything. I knew it would be a good crowd when, in the opening video package, everyone furiously booed a 5 second image of Reigns...
Overall, great review Brian. However, I think you are crazy if you think that having Lita come out would be a letdown compared to Bailey. I think that would have been a nostalgia pop to rival Shane O'Mac in Detroit a few months back.
They should have an elimination chamber at Summerslam for the new world heavyweight championship: Cesaro vs KO vs Roman vs Seth vs Chris Jericho vs Sheamus
Did anyone see the tag from Kofi to Xavier because I don't think that happened. In the match between the Wyatts and The New day
My friend said the same thing. I think when Xavier saved Kofi from the Sister Abigail they was counted as a tag since they made physical contact. Yea it wasnt done in the corner but that's the only "logical" reason I can think of.
I didn't see the first time but on a second viewing there was a tag made in the corner between Kofi and Xavier but it was not that clear because the camera was on it for less than a second, but they could have made it easier for us to see the tag, that is why I got confused.
i believe i saw it
I agree with pretty much everything you said except for one thing: The Club didn't look that good. ESPECIALLY Gallows. At the start he try to interfere and get hit almost by accident. Outside of the ring, he charge toward Enzo and hit himself on the steel post. Try to do a body splash to the man on the ground? Enzo escape, Gallows hurt himself AGAIN. At the end of the match, what does he do? Charge Cena, Cena doge and Gallows hit himself on the turnbuckle...AGAIN. And he pretty much only did a Jackhamm,r the magic killer and the choke Bomb. Gallows looked so bad. And even Karl Anderson KO himself, by doing what? Charging toward Enzo, miss and hit hismelf on the turnbuckle. I don't know what it is with The Club and turnbuckles but they gonna have to stay away from them.
The compound spot wasn't edited to death like The Final Deletion. TFD had so many unnecessary angle changes during single moves.
The reason they might not be touting the Record for Charlotte, is because they retired the Diva's Belt?
So it makes sense if they're legitimately counting the Women's Belt as a new "Reign" I guess?
Although, the way Sami selled the botch it seemed like a work, but it was still scary for me.
sold*
Agreed at 10:07 I was like "Ugh not this again" and by time it was ovah I was chanting with the fans because I was so excited.
Z Man its kind of weird how the 4 major US promotions do something similar with in a week of each other. LU fenix had to be an iron man in Aztec Warfare (i believe this was filmed first) and Reigns had to do the same at Royal Rumble (Aired First) TNA hardy boyz final deletion and Wyatt/Newday compound fight. ROH has the tag tournament, loves tournies, and as that is being aired over a couple episodes and WWE has a cruiserweight tourney, they don't often use tournaments. Do you think this is that "collective unconscious" "multiple discovery" thing or is this a response to the IWC requesting these things, that i haven't noticed?
Who else was just amazed that dean and Seth kept falling from the ceiling at 200mph
It was mentioned on the last episode of NXT that Bayley still has a rematch clause in her contract that she has not cashed in yet on the current NXT Women's champ Asuka. This might be one reason as to why Bayley has not been drafted yet to the main roster. Also, this is not the first time an active NXT roster member went back and forth from NXT and the main roster (Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn both did this).
I was at Battleground last night and yeah it was amazing, Zayn and Owens killed it.
I think the problem with the super kick is that it's pretty much just a generic move, similar to the big boot that has been used by Hulk Hogan, Andrea the Giant and others big guys, pretty much anyone can do it and doesn't take a fancy set up, same goes for the DDT, Jake put everyone away with that, and now when was the last time someone won a match with that move?
Good review. Just subbed.
Charlotte doesn't have the record though, because the two belts are different. Trish Stratus held the Women's Title for over 400 days at one point. The Fabulous Mulah had it for like 10,000. The Divas Title and the Womens Title are two different belts.
Yo real quick, why did the Usos put Ambrose on his shoulders when they just saw their cousin lose. I get because they're both smackdown but still, I just thought that others would have made more sense to put him up.
I actually liked the Rawley/Rusev thing.
That 'errr....who are you?' look that Rusev gave him was beautiful.
unsubscribed from wyza's stupid raw spoiling ass(I watch on Hulu, less garbage that way) and subbed to you. good shit man, an ACTUAL review.
You should make a shirt called "Super Kick City" lol
The reason that Charlotte doesn't get any mention as record holder is that the Women's Championship is a brand new title that traces its lineage back to wrestlemania. The new championship doesn't carry on the legacy of the diva's championship. Just like how New Day can claim to hold the record for tag team titles because that belt traces its lineage back to 2002.
Do you watch young bucks matches? Superkick partys galore! So many superkicks!
I believe that Roman wasn't meant to be the face of the company that everyone believes. I believe they wanted to build these guys as main eventers so they all get a chance to hold the belt first half of 2015 was Seth beginning of 2016 is Roman and now we got Dean
They should've had Highlight Reel follow the Owens/Zayn match
Where are match highlights and ratings?