8 Of The Most Forgotten European Hot-Hatches

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  • @PieterKuijk
    @PieterKuijk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I had a fiat Uno turbo, the predecessor of the Punto. It was even lighter and had the same 1.4l engine. It was a blast to drive. Few remain today.

    • @juststuff5216
      @juststuff5216 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember hooning around in my friends Uno Turbo. But on a straight strip between Quintral Downs coming into St Columb Minor, we tried to overtake a normal Uno ... doing around 65-70 mph, but the Turbo had no midrange power, and we couldn't do it .... shocking. The car blew up the next day! www.google.com/maps/dir/Quintrell+Downs,+Newquay+TR8+4WE/St+Columb+Minor,+Newquay+TR7+3HT/@50.4096388,-5.0454696,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x486b120880c53103:0x25bf6c60c3a78f6c!2m2!1d-5.029306!2d50.401493!1m5!1m1!1s0x486b0e10313cf043:0x17164103b28e8b17!2m2!1d-5.045908!2d50.417808!3e0

  • @AS-rd4xi
    @AS-rd4xi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The Talbot Sunbeam Lotus is surely missing in this vid

    • @emmareporter4324
      @emmareporter4324 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      61 K wait is the Vauxhall Lotus Carlton a liftback?

    • @AS-rd4xi
      @AS-rd4xi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emet Playz im not talking about the vaux but this: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Sunbeam

  • @tudorv7295
    @tudorv7295 6 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    The Clio Willams isn't forgotten

    • @Kaisuke971
      @Kaisuke971 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Tudor Voicu Ikr just taking a quick glance at its prices should clear things up

    • @Mybwain
      @Mybwain 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kaisuke971 I just see a nice example for nearly £14 grand. Wow, I've seen Renault 5 gti for about the same in a show room.

    • @TheXtremeSS
      @TheXtremeSS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Clio (1.8) 16V would be better fit for a forgotten hot-hatch. Or the R5 GT Turbo.

    • @theob5885
      @theob5885 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tudor Voicu as the 309

    • @dildoshwaggins1017
      @dildoshwaggins1017 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Renault , Fiat , Alfa all thus shit nobody want to have

  • @siouex
    @siouex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saab 9-3 Viggen..perfect roomy cruiser and gets almost anyone of the line,useless in quick corners..
    Great big hatch..loved it..

  • @Rodeo-Bangers351
    @Rodeo-Bangers351 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Opel kadett GSI, my dad owned one for the road and raced in another. Made my first meters in a car in one too :)

    • @Tomazack
      @Tomazack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Astra GSI as well. Awesome 2 liter engine.

    • @danijellucic2086
      @danijellucic2086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The onevery few knows about, Opel Kadett Superboss

    • @Rodeo-Bangers351
      @Rodeo-Bangers351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danijellucic2086 oh yeah, the one with sportier cams and exhaust manifold is'nt it

    • @danijellucic2086
      @danijellucic2086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rodeo-Bangers351 yes, also record holder for 20 years almost, for having biggest amount of torque per liter for N/A untill Ferrari 458 Italia

  • @antep6157
    @antep6157 6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Polo G40?

    • @szymon6207
      @szymon6207 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darth Antimonus no

    • @antep6157
      @antep6157 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Szymon why

    • @peterzingler6221
      @peterzingler6221 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Darth Antimonus oc If you say No you never driven one . Same Thing with Corsa a gsi pure madness

    • @antep6157
      @antep6157 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter Zingler you talking to me or the other guy?

    • @bcepni00
      @bcepni00 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was talking to the other guy

  • @Sebaxtain
    @Sebaxtain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually enjoy driving my mums 2004 peugeot station wagon. It's a 2.0 Turbo Diesel engine with 136hp but it makes 320nm at ~ 2000 rpm

  • @makaizo
    @makaizo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had 309GTI long time ago. Never met any others on the road of Japan here but many 205s. I still love how i enjoyed behind the 309s wheel.

  • @markojanjic7341
    @markojanjic7341 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Maybe you could make a part two and include the Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole? No one seems to remember this car even though it was faster than the Golf mk2 GTI which was its rival at the time.

    • @zoufmalade
      @zoufmalade 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe faster than the normal 8v GTi but with 200kg more it was certainly not faster than the GTi mk2 16v nor the g60

    • @markojanjic7341
      @markojanjic7341 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The g80 was obviously faster but the Tipo Sedicivalvole competed with the GTI mk2 16v and as far as I know it the Tipo had a better drag co-efficiency and therefore a bigger top speed. I don't know about the 0-60 time(The Golf might have beaten it there) but I also remember articles in magazines about the two and the Tipo beat the Golf in handling too since it was better in the corners.

    • @zoufmalade
      @zoufmalade 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marko Janjic Well it was nothing exceptional, i mean you had a 0-60 time of about 8 to 9 seconds, and a weight figure around 1100kg. Although it was stable on long curves, it didn't do really great on twisty roads. That maybe the reason why i've never seen one on a rally stage (amateur or pro), whereas i've seen one or two gti mk2's. Heck, I've even seen a Uno turbo ie that as a chassis as precise as a shed

  • @Nlangkirby135
    @Nlangkirby135 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If only the beetle hot hatch was sold in the United States... that would be my first hot hatch when I get my drivers license.

    • @HugoAmasing
      @HugoAmasing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      hahahahaha you wished, they're limited editions. They're now expensive and rare as fuck. They currently go for like £50k

    • @Nlangkirby135
      @Nlangkirby135 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Rotorboi £50,000?! Scratch that idea... unless I can find an used beetle and modify to make it a replica. Mwahahaha!

    • @philtripe
      @philtripe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      the only people that think VW's are reliable have only had VW...or possibly another German car

    • @mariuszanfir2298
      @mariuszanfir2298 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      stickloaf And the connection with the rest of the discussion was? Is anyone talking about VW reliability in this thread?

    • @hank1556
      @hank1556 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup. add it to the list of bad ass cars we dont get 😐

  • @matirs342
    @matirs342 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Came to see the 145 Qv haha. Not disappointed. Have one, amazing car.

    • @ovinomc9236
      @ovinomc9236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is IT reliable?

    • @matirs342
      @matirs342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ovinomc9236 Yes, if it's a well kept and correctly maintained unit, it has no problems.
      Only problems I had so far were due to old hoses. Something common for old cars.

    • @ovinomc9236
      @ovinomc9236 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matirs342 nice thanks, i am actually just deciding between the 145 qv And Celica 7g

    • @matirs342
      @matirs342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ovinomc9236 Cool. Two very different cars. The Celica definitely is more modern than the 145 tho.

    • @ovinomc9236
      @ovinomc9236 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matirs342 i was sure i am going to get a Celica but then i found the alfa And something just clicked. I dont know i love the recaro Seats the side profile, And i think the interior looks great.

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I gotta say the MG ZR should be on here. It's like the Rover 200 but with 158HP and you can tune that engine to 200HP with not much work.

    • @vanstreun
      @vanstreun 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the 160 version.

    • @Dave-ks9ig
      @Dave-ks9ig 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mg is a British car i think
      Not european

    • @alexstromberg7696
      @alexstromberg7696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dave-ks9ig England is in Europe you moron

    • @viga44
      @viga44 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had one brm but he died a lot... 😢

  • @dubhoven1
    @dubhoven1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK so it's not exactly a production model, but for my money the ultimate forgotten hot hatch is one I used to own... A 1989 civic base model (no power anything) with a ZC motor & tranny swap with a tune and magnaflow exhaust. Sounds mean for a 4 banger, and will pull a 5.0 Mustang out of the hole! Mine made in the neighborhood of 175hp (without the Turbo) and weighed about 1700 lbs soaking wet. It surprised more than a handful of hatches out there 😊

  • @ed200sx
    @ed200sx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More "forgotten" hot cars: Peugeot 405 1.9 SRI (phase2) and Peugeot 405 Mi-16, Renault 19 (chamade) 16v, Renault 21 Bi-Turbo, Alfa 155QV... maybe for your next video ;)

  • @seanhall4520
    @seanhall4520 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Talbot Sunbeam Lotus...I had one OMG, what a beast back in 1982....2.2ltr 16v lotus engine 150 HP , Rear wheel drive , 5 spead ZF gearbox, twin Dellorto carburetors, Quafe LSD...wish i still had it!!Happy days
    Great channel by the way..

  • @anxelous
    @anxelous 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Citroën Visa GTi

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AnxelViz
      Oh yes! And the BX GTi as well.

    • @hivzijabuzaljko964
      @hivzijabuzaljko964 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Little screamer

  • @spavatch
    @spavatch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So for the past dozen years I drove a forgotten hot-hatch. Nice.

  • @OndraMike
    @OndraMike 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok...its gonna be repetitive for me, but i read all comments 2 years back....and no one mentioned the only one really forgotten Hothach.....made from 2005-2010, 2.0L turbocharged engine, almost 200 HP, bigger brakes than the other ones less powered engines, sporty 6-speed manual gearbox....but never sold as an sporty hothatch...personally never driven....but i think he could be included....oh yeah, i'm speaking about Mercedes-Benz A 200 Turbo (W169)...we could include also the B 200 Turbo (W245), but it was bigger and heavier and almost a little van (like Renault scenic)

  • @Carstuff111
    @Carstuff111 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know its an older video, but still, I do have to shout out to the somewhat obscure (it seems) European Hot-Hatch we got here in the USA: 2007 Volkswagen Rabbit 2.5 liter 5 cylinder. Ok, no, it was not exactly fast, but it had torque everywhere and I think had more potential. I am sure the car was available else where in the world as such, and I am not sure how popular the setup is to be honest. I am not exactly a European car expert or fan despite having worked for a VW dealership as a mechanic for a short time. I am more of a old Japanese car/ old American car guy.

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Rover sounds amazing!!!

  • @autoeclectic8808
    @autoeclectic8808 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That 309 racecar is living its best life.

  • @Indalsman
    @Indalsman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot the Mitsubishi Colt GTI 1,8 4G93 140hp 92-95 also known as Mitsubishi Mirage, it also had a more tuned version called the Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg R with a 170hp 4G92 DOCH Mivec engine.

  • @darth_pandino4265
    @darth_pandino4265 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Correction... Fiat never made a turbocharged tipo and the punto's engine came from the uno turbo

  • @pe8268
    @pe8268 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:15 that 5-pot Sound😍

  • @Dyktator1998
    @Dyktator1998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fiat Uno turbo? (mk1,mk2)

    • @WymiataczPlays
      @WymiataczPlays 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      not fitting this list, uno turbo is far from being forgotten, has many fans/fanatics (like me :D)

  • @SSFproductions1
    @SSFproductions1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you put the brm in, why didnt you put the MG ZR 160 vvc in?

  • @TheChill001
    @TheChill001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The JCW mini cooper isn't exactly one that puts a smile on my face. The regular cooper S is much better imho, the extra weight allows for more grip and it isn't so prone to oversteer and "spinning" like the JCW

  • @MikediFazio
    @MikediFazio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the newer civic with a turbo count as hot hatch?
    I've had quite a few civics from the 80's and 90's with forced induction, and they were fast and decently handling, especially with a good suspension

  • @ronnenfelt5438
    @ronnenfelt5438 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah. trueno in the into definitely puts a smile on any face

  • @rainerknuth8528
    @rainerknuth8528 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Renault 19 16V; Renault 5 Alpine ; Citroën saxo vts ;Mercedes A klasse amg (erste Serie)

  • @Lucas-ve1yh
    @Lucas-ve1yh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    VW Gol GTi, and Kadett GSi. In Brazil, most of the good condition Gol GTi models, are getting pretty expensive...

  • @LatvianVideo
    @LatvianVideo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Nissan primera p11 1,8 2001 but it need to MAF needs to be changed bcuz it revs on 2500 and engine light is on

  • @cattofromsomewhere
    @cattofromsomewhere 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:12 *_Me: (wipes eyeglasses) Dude is that a twingo!?_*

  • @raptorjesus959
    @raptorjesus959 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    except for the Renault Clio Williams, there is a REASON why these were forgotten :P

  • @samljones
    @samljones 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Seat Ibiza GTi !!!!

    • @zoufmalade
      @zoufmalade 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even the first gen SXi was ultra weird. Negative camber at the front, positive at the back, engine tuned by Porsche and with all that, it was way slower than the competiton

    • @Fastmagic777
      @Fastmagic777 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get the fuck out of here with ur fake audis

    • @AKhellbindeR
      @AKhellbindeR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing wrong with ibizas. Gen 2 Ibiza GTI had the Golf 3 GTI engine (worlds fastests VW uses that) and the facelifted Gen 2 is probably the fastest 1.8T car because it's so light, not counting S3 and Leon Cupra R.

    • @BRASIMETAL
      @BRASIMETAL 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fastmagic777 hahaha

  • @Golfpromi
    @Golfpromi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is the Opel Kadett Gsi16V or Vectra 4x4

  • @azrifadli7900
    @azrifadli7900 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dear VisionRacer,Can you do a video of The Most Forgotten Asian and American Hot-Hatches please? Thank you

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did both already

    • @azrifadli7900
      @azrifadli7900 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh ok umm...... can you make a video of The South American made cars because I need to knowing about the South America made vehicle.

    • @Legend-lc9bv
      @Legend-lc9bv 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Azri Fadli he won't do it

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 2013 JCW GP2 is the Real Mcoy! I have one!

  • @isaacgarcia8686
    @isaacgarcia8686 ปีที่แล้ว

    That VW Beetle is sick

  • @R33C3.
    @R33C3. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ford Fiesta xr2 and the Vauxhall Nova Sri

  • @girthycucumber4274
    @girthycucumber4274 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is also the Focus ST170

  • @olivergould2445
    @olivergould2445 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lotus sunbeam vauxhall chevette ford fiesta XR2 MK1 MK2 and MK3 rover metro GTI vauxhall/OPEL nova/corsa A GSI and GTE Renault 5 GT turbo pugeot 205 GTI VW polo 6N2 and ford fiesta RS turbo MK3

  • @xxcarlo99
    @xxcarlo99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vw lupo gti?

  • @anttilehikoinen1053
    @anttilehikoinen1053 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my point of view, the first generation Audi S3 is forgotten also.

  • @cesarmendoza6630
    @cesarmendoza6630 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you forgot the renault clio v6 3.0l

  • @tim1polman
    @tim1polman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uhm.. the Mk4 R32 was 4 motion.. the Beetle rsi was fwd. (One of the rarest vw gearbox's, a fwd 02M 6-speed.)

  • @gen3v8
    @gen3v8 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subaru used to make hot hatches,Wrx Sti hatch, but not any more

  • @fordmartin1991
    @fordmartin1991 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about the fiesta xr2 series?

  • @ivomarcatelli1744
    @ivomarcatelli1744 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo Argentinian license plate 😏👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @auto_kevin9731
    @auto_kevin9731 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came here for the Beetle RSi.

  • @miguelfreitas1991
    @miguelfreitas1991 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Italians used to make such cool hot hatches ........love my HGT

  • @r3h4n786
    @r3h4n786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    That RSI gives me memories of Midtown madness lol, love it

    • @k1er4n544
      @k1er4n544 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Midtown madness 3 to be precise remember getting my new Xbox with that game bundled loved doing stunts in the rsi xD nostalgia

    • @r3h4n786
      @r3h4n786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kieran544 yea i had it for PC lol enjoyed the Panoz GTR1 too although it wrecked easily 😂

  • @derxKai
    @derxKai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Fiesta RS Turbo, XR2i, Polo G40, Golf Rallye, Corsa GSI, Kadett GSI, Pulsar GTI-R, Starlet GT Turbo, Colt GTI, AX GTI, 323 GT-R, Almera GTI, Civic Type R, Charade GTTI, Swift GTI, 323ti,
    I really miss those Days... =(

    • @muhammadhazarul
      @muhammadhazarul 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kai Müller the era when we say fuck the fuel economy and more power and performance budget cars

    • @budditbuddit1555
      @budditbuddit1555 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kai Müller ..Jesus did you forget anything ha .I had a advanced gt starlet and a pulsar gtir as well. Fuck my life I miss them

    • @derxKai
      @derxKai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I´m still living to these Standards today lol =) I just love the feeling if you overtake a new Car with a 25yo underrated Box

    • @MasterThimself
      @MasterThimself 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kai Müller dont miss those days... revive Them. Drive those cars. Drive em Hard. So as i do with my corsa gsi and did with my Kadett. The late 80s and early 90s were the glory days when the Engineers actually had more to say than the cost controllers

    • @vomdeich1011
      @vomdeich1011 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree though the title was "European Hot Hatches". I like to proceed: Escort XR3i and RS2000, Astra GSI, R19 16v, 106 GTI, ZX volcane and 16v, Lupo GTI - And even it's just a few year out of production: Twinge RS - which is to me one of the last old school affordable hot hatches.

  • @antonioamendola4474
    @antonioamendola4474 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Autobianchi Abarth 70 HP , Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC

    • @LassiTuominen
      @LassiTuominen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Antonio Amendola i own Ritmo abarth 130tc! such a fun car

  • @joshbacon8241
    @joshbacon8241 6 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    4:28 - Do you remember when VisioRacer used to own one of these?

    • @isundgrensakeri
      @isundgrensakeri 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Josh Bacon the N/A 5 pot sure reminds of a Volvo 850

    • @darth_autie_117
      @darth_autie_117 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      TeamScania When I hear or see Five-pot I think of the Audi quattro

    • @chaoszombie9995
      @chaoszombie9995 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TeamScania 850 was Turboed

    • @chaoszombie9995
      @chaoszombie9995 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Josh Bacon man the good old days ;)

    • @Titellian
      @Titellian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chaos Zombie999 There are some good 850 N/A versions as well

  • @WAZAM939
    @WAZAM939 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That Bravo sounds just like my S60R. Can't beat the sound of an inline-5.

    • @TheGreyTest
      @TheGreyTest 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WAZAM939 the smooth sweet song of a straight six.

    • @T0m0zuki
      @T0m0zuki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Inline-5 is just a poetry. Inline-6 is no match, at least to my ears.

  • @GRFX19
    @GRFX19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And what about the rarest Golf GTi mk1 16s Oettinger, miss mine 😖

  • @VolvoCrafter
    @VolvoCrafter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Volvo 480 Turbo

    • @RymdSegel
      @RymdSegel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      VolvoCrafter that was slow as fuck tho, and had quite bad handling

  • @genterasaki86
    @genterasaki86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Except for the 309 and the beetle every single one of these cars is very popular here in italy...

    • @alper694
      @alper694 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      GDrift is there an Italian car selling website? (Preferably a popular one)

    • @genterasaki86
      @genterasaki86 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alper Öz autoscout24.it or subito.it

  • @Crazy_Borg
    @Crazy_Borg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Mini JCW is quite annoying, sadly. Backfire is programmed in the ECU unit and not "natural". You will always get the same 3 backfires when you let off the gas. Every. Single. Time.
    But Kudos to the Williams Clio. Although I would still prefer the Renault Sport Clio V6 .
    BTW:
    Wasn't the Fiat Bravo HGT Engine the same one as in the Fiat Coupé?

    • @jagh1410
      @jagh1410 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep same 5banger as in Coupe, also hes mistaken Punto HGT engine origin, it was put in Uno Turbo, never heard about Tipo Turbo tho.

    • @CrArC
      @CrArC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting... Are the JCW and non-JCW models different? I don't know about the former but the latter seems to do whatever the hell it pleases (sometimes not even a pop, sometimes one or two of varying intensity, sometimes a blast of them). In all cases due to the thimble-sized exhaust they're not particularly loud anyway, most of the time. -_-

    • @chrisg4rr377
      @chrisg4rr377 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not on the r53, only the later model r56 ones. The 53 was supercharged and the 56 was a turbo

    • @jaredleroy9876
      @jaredleroy9876 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Mini r53 Cooper S, JCW and JCW GP are not programmed to backfire. we've owned multiple of all of these cars and it was only in the R56 and other models with the turbo engine that have the popping ECU.

    • @carsnopinion697
      @carsnopinion697 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There wasn't any "Tipo turbo" but the faster model was "Tipo Sedicivalvole"

  • @lussestories9180
    @lussestories9180 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about british Honda Concerto SX 1.6-16 HW body? If we speak about EU made cars)
    Also I can give some examples : Opel Astra H GTC 1.6 TURBO or Astra H Opc, Astra G coupe bertone with 2.0 turbo, Corsa GTi, and so on.

  • @Su_Tubbu
    @Su_Tubbu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Rover 200 BRM was the first car I bought as new, lowered, engine tuned to 160 bhp. We were probably less than 5 to own one in Switzerland! Upholstery was gorgeous with it’s red leather. And Torsen LSD gives lots of grip!

  • @oleo007
    @oleo007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Five tech fiat,its a eargasm,pretty nice sound.
    No opel cars on this list?
    Astra G OPC ...

  • @TheMadTatter
    @TheMadTatter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Vauxhall Chevette HS 👍

    • @olivergould2445
      @olivergould2445 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lotus sunbeam they were before the golf GTI and both where RWD hot hatches

  • @simracinglou3142
    @simracinglou3142 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I see a Golf RSi I hit like.

    • @rayhans7853
      @rayhans7853 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Project Spaghetti Gaming beetle?

  • @FirstOnRaceDayCapri2904
    @FirstOnRaceDayCapri2904 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fiesta RS 1800, Fiesta RS Turbo, Renault 11 Turbo, Peugeot 205 Rallye.

    • @someonebald2022
      @someonebald2022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Renault 5 GT Turbo II?

    • @r3h4n786
      @r3h4n786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      106 Rallye too

  • @dr_skipwith
    @dr_skipwith 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually think about the RSi more often than not, thanks to GranTurismo 4.

  • @jazmark1719
    @jazmark1719 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You missed the Corsa and Astra GSI versions :(

    • @spavatch
      @spavatch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wasn't... if you own a 80s to 90s hot hatch museum, and same goes to most cars mentioned here that you consider common. Most people didn't even know there was a Corsa GSi, not to mention that it initially had a bespoke C16XE engine that hasn't been mounted in any other model.

    • @c20xe65
      @c20xe65 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Astra f gsi is really good car with pretty aerodynamics not like corsa, corsa is just city car isnt for high speeds.

    • @spavatch
      @spavatch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hot hatches in general aren't for high speeds, they're for acceleration in between the corners.

    • @c20xe65
      @c20xe65 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      spavatch but astra is hatch corsa is just small car have you driven corsa or tigra at the corners or at highway one time i was driving a corsa at highway with rain and wind its a adventure to overtake trucks

    • @spavatch
      @spavatch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a perspective thing, the way I see it ovetaking trucks with a Corsa 1.0 may be an adventure, but with twice as powerful GSi it would be a pleasure. I admit, not as big pleasure as blowing past them in a turbocharged car of same size, but pleasure nevertheless ;)

  • @diarmuidmarsden7752
    @diarmuidmarsden7752 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How similar is a rover brm to an mg zr?

    • @GregoryCavill
      @GregoryCavill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Google them both but zr's are alot cheaper and k-series variants didnt have vvc. The brms suspension is also tuned and it has a diffrent box with a closer ratio. It also has a red leather interior wheras zr has just leather depending on fabric. However there was a 160 zr which im pretty sure is quicker. Probably worth looking into

  • @Kaisuke971
    @Kaisuke971 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Instead of the Williams you should’ve put the Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6 16v. Super light (under a ton), not much power (120hp) but it moves and handles pretty well. And it’s not worth much

    • @TheXtremeSS
      @TheXtremeSS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      People still remember the Saxo Cup and the 106 GTI a bit (the same for the Civic VTI). I could even say the same for the Williams, but there are still a lot of projects with the 106 GTI / Saxo Cup. I would say however the 205 GTI is as much forgotten as the Williams and it is also considered one of the best hot hatches ever made. :)

    • @alsoleak7196
      @alsoleak7196 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i own a Saxo VTS 1.6 8v and it's awesome, even full stock you really don't need anything like coilovers etc... to have fun and scare yourself in it (lol). I live in France, wich is where they come from obviously... and where they are getting expensive now. The price for a good example is getting higher now (3500-5000€) and it's not over. A "future classic" becoming a classic

    • @Kaisuke971
      @Kaisuke971 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pierre G. I'm French too, and yeah the prices are starting to go up but it's still relatively correct. For the performance and the experience that's a really fair price bracket imo. Hopefully it can stay like that so i can pick one up when i lose the young driver status.

    • @TheXtremeSS
      @TheXtremeSS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The same is happening in Portugal for the Saxo Cup and 106 GTi as well as the Punto GT and the Clio 16S (1.8 16v). The Williams normally is "off the scale". Just too much expensive. (Seen them above the 10.000 €)

    • @alsoleak7196
      @alsoleak7196 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      get one asap because they won't stop gaining value from now

  • @DeeZeeGR
    @DeeZeeGR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Most of them are common here in Greece!!😂

    • @2LaftsonStudiosTM
      @2LaftsonStudiosTM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      King Whispa χαχαχαχα όντως

    • @DeeZeeGR
      @DeeZeeGR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alexandros Laftsidis Χαχαχα εκτός από το beatle και κάνα δυο αλλά που είναι σπάνια λμαο!!!

    • @2LaftsonStudiosTM
      @2LaftsonStudiosTM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      King Whispa λογο κυβικών μόνο

    • @edlingja1
      @edlingja1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      None of these are available in Canada.....
      Maybe the VW Bug if you were already a lucky VW owner. I can't remember if they were banned or not; but the majority of these models are not allowed in Canada... Sad... We get to buy new cars these days, insurance companies sometimes refuse to insure older cars as well. Sad, sad, sad.

    • @DeeZeeGR
      @DeeZeeGR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jay Edlington you have other greater cars that those!!!I don't thing you miss anything but everyone wants what they don't have in their country!!lmao

  • @benjaminpinelp.9458
    @benjaminpinelp.9458 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in the 90's 309 GTI16 and Clio Williams were rivals here in France !
    All of these hot hatches are gold really ! Nice vid ! 👌

  • @ronaldderooij1774
    @ronaldderooij1774 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Autobianchi A112 Abarth. Fiat Ritmo Abarth, Talbot Lotus, a few Opel GSI's. I like this series, go on like this VisioRacer!

  • @STiX_87
    @STiX_87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey VisioRacer, another nice Vid...! Puntos Were smoking their Tires all over Europe. Instead, I have never heard of Tipo Turbo. You should have mentioned the Y10 Turbo, the Renault 5 Alpine/Alpine turbo. You have never mentioned Volvo 480, in any of your videos...!

  • @OldSchoolGGLATA
    @OldSchoolGGLATA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Volvo 440 Turbo/480 Turbo. That's a car no one even knows that it exists, but its so much fun! Engine was engineered by Renault, Volvo and Porsche. Weights just a ton and has a inline 4 turbo engine, fwd.

  • @gregmahone1815
    @gregmahone1815 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Visioracer I enjoy your work sir keep doing what you doing sir it makes me happy as a car enthusiasts to see these hot hatches an they sound awesome and manual transmission only no automatic transmission either yup awesome sound

  • @nodak81
    @nodak81 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't imagine having to work on that Beetle, the engine looks like it was shoehorned in there. Nightmare.

    • @mrrciq
      @mrrciq 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nodak81 I own an audi tt with this engine and its already tough. I cant imagine how it fits in a beetle;D

  • @HugoAmasing
    @HugoAmasing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Literally anything French that isn't a 205 GTi or a modern Renault Sport is very underrated. Any sporty Peugeot has an amazing chassis (don't even need a sporty one tbh, 206 owners know how fun they are, same goes for 106s and even bigger and less sporty cars like the 607 and 407s have very good handling)
    Same goes for Renault Sport, the Mk2 Clio RS is now one of the best and also cheapest hot hatches you can find.

    • @zoufmalade
      @zoufmalade 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That the "french bmw" chassis wise. Had a couple Peugeot myself, sporty and non-sporty, and they were all great. Precise front end and oversteery at the limits make them a hell of a weapon on b-roads.

    • @HugoAmasing
      @HugoAmasing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      zoufmalade yeah. We have a 307, 2.0 110hp diesel. It's just so good, like it's not a sportscar, but it's great.

    • @benjidu78440
      @benjidu78440 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got a 206 RC and I love this car. Enough power, awesome châssis, and feel so safe. No understeer and even the oversteer feel controled. And that sound though !

    • @wvangus82
      @wvangus82 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Rotorboi Remember the AMC Renaults? Back in '98 dad paid 75 bucks for my first car, a black 86 Renault Alliance 2 door 4 speed with the grille busted out and the hood latch broken lol. When u got up past 80mph the hood would come up about 3 inches and kinda float there since it opened backwards! lol We haven't seen Renaults around here since way back in the day.

    • @TheMCPALLE
      @TheMCPALLE 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought a cheap 106 Sport as my wintercar (they are like the cheapest cars here in Germany). I can confirm this. Alltough it only has 75Hp it is great fun to drive.

  • @joshimitsu96
    @joshimitsu96 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1985/1986 Vauxhall nova sport. nuff said! Twin carbs are a great sound!

  • @shngsam8777
    @shngsam8777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they not building cars like these anymore
    nowadays even "hot hatches" are getting bigger, heavier n more complicated

  • @danielhristov6175
    @danielhristov6175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the 5 cylinder Fiat reliable?
    Engine wise, compared to de 8v JTD?

  • @c20xe65
    @c20xe65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forgot opel agila nice hatch for poor people😅

  • @someonebald2022
    @someonebald2022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You missed out the Ford Escort XR3 and 3i, the Fiesta XR2 and 2i, the Sierra XR4i (the Mk1), and the Escort RS Turbo. That's just from FORD!

    • @Gurk4ever
      @Gurk4ever 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      None of those are "forgotten"

    • @M0reGamer
      @M0reGamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude, Ford is an american company.

    • @someonebald2022
      @someonebald2022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nathaniel, Ford Europe. When did Ford USA ever make a hot hatch?

    • @teilzeitteemo6190
      @teilzeitteemo6190 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ford is a US Company. Not a european one.

    • @joannemarc9121
      @joannemarc9121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All shitboxes

  • @toneykk
    @toneykk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Salomondrin it's the only person in America that have the vw RSI

  • @fgeiger41
    @fgeiger41 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did vw not make a ton of the RSI's? And sell them globally. Loved those

  • @EMCPetsku
    @EMCPetsku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beetle RSi was one of my childhood dream cars, thanks to Midtown Madness.

  • @aqprider
    @aqprider 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you bro for your videos!

  • @dannykustersautomotive5102
    @dannykustersautomotive5102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Opel kadett gsi 16v and astra gsi 16v and kadett gte, model D and C. Danny gsi 666

  • @ricardo1e93
    @ricardo1e93 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please, do something that features a renault 19 16v, I'll send you my videos and another bunch!

  • @cebastienlarochelle8182
    @cebastienlarochelle8182 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mazda precidia with the tiny v6s they sounds awsome!

  • @setheror8698
    @setheror8698 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the really uncommon was the Opel\Vauxhall Astra f GSI
    The One with the 2.0 16v (c20xe)
    That engine is still used in various level of motorsport.
    That is uncummon

    • @Fiyahhousee
      @Fiyahhousee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My friend has a Opel Vectra A GT with the C20XE and i can say its probably the cheapest fun car money can buy!

  • @mike3963
    @mike3963 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The beetle sounded like a Dodge Viper and a Nissan GT-R had a baby

  • @brvkloshar
    @brvkloshar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    polo g40

  • @PriestOfAuril
    @PriestOfAuril 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    happy the BRM made one of your vids, but you forgot to mention it also came with completely fine tuned suspension specific to that model and the mental interior. im also disappointed with the videos chosen to showcase the car as they did not do it justice! .... yes former owner here :) under 120 left in UK now

  • @janjoshika
    @janjoshika 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to own a mk1 Scirocco GTI, now that's a rare car.

  • @TehRuiAlv3z
    @TehRuiAlv3z 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most of these are quite popular, just rare and therefore expensive - Alfa and Bravo being the exceptions...
    I'd include the 318/323ti from BMW.

    • @Renegade666
      @Renegade666 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Suzuki isnt European....

    • @TehRuiAlv3z
      @TehRuiAlv3z 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh shit, I forgot it was supposed to be just european ahahaha Scratch that then!

    • @sirwafel
      @sirwafel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      RuiAlvez Erm, since when 3 series is a hatchback?

    • @TehRuiAlv3z
      @TehRuiAlv3z 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir Wafel The compact - ti - is a hatchback ;)

    • @mariuszanfir2298
      @mariuszanfir2298 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      RuiAlvez I don't know about the Ti. I think it depends on where you live. I see them quite often, not as often as the normal 3 series of course, but they don't seem forgotten around where I live. I think there are more of them now, than when they were new.

  • @swansmeister
    @swansmeister 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    stunning wheels on the beetle rsi, bbs rs2 wheels i had them also on my E39 m5 most beautifull rim ever made imo

  • @ANDREWSAMY562
    @ANDREWSAMY562 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dat little Fiat Bravo tho.

  • @chriswilliams2305
    @chriswilliams2305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great!! That Beetle gti is a serious bit of kit!!!

  • @cbr3220
    @cbr3220 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder why visioracer sold his old fiat