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As an INTJ woman department director I had a direct report position that was mission critical to our outcome. Long story short, I created an exact questionnaire for every applicant and administered the MBTI to each. I really liked a particular candidate, she and I got along well , BUT when I saw her MBTI score I wanted to throw up. Me: INTJ, Her: ISFJ. I almost didn’t hire her because of our innate differences. In my world no room for feelings. However, I thought about it, interviewed a few more people when the light 💡 came on. Hiring someone different would be an ASSET. I brought her back in and had a frank conversation about conflict. I told her for certain that we’d have conflicts but knowing this ahead of time we could talk about it, present our feeling and thinking arguments so we could create a better department and program. BEST DECISION I EVER MADE!!!!!!! Tytyy🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
This brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for this video. I'm an INFJ and I did grow up believing that there is something wrong with me. When I discovered cognitive functions it started to change my life. I am honestly grateful for your contribution, thank you for sharing this information with the world.
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I'm am INTJ and currently a scientist at a prominent university with a promising career ahead. In elementary school my teachers kind of implied to my parents that something was wrong with me, I might have been better off with going to a school for children with mental disabilities. I was already 14 years old when I realized that you can't be happy in this world unless you force on a mask, the mask of the average "good student". Every minute of school was a struggle until I made it to university where I managed to find my very small tribe and my best friend an INFP. Knowing my type these days gives me a huge relief that I'm not alone, there was never anything wrong with me. Thanks for this podcast :)
its so good to know that i am not as completely alone in this world as i feel most of the time. there are many days that i just really dont like being me anymore because it is so lonely sometimes and i feel like no one understands me and im tired of being treated as a strange outsider, im tired of seeing the way people truely feel about me without them telling me. im tired of knowing what people really feel vs. what they say, it gives me the feeling that just about every person in this world is a liar. on the positive side though it sure is very interesting inside my head. my mental activity is never ever boring.
@@samtavoosian3059 i found you on instagram and im like so blushing right now!!!!! im not looking for half naked muscular studs per say but do like to connect with others on my wavelength. :) :)
You're so right about education systems not being well suited for intuitives. Like many INTJ's (well, in my experience) I've been able to sort drift through without too much effort, allowing Ni to make the necessary connections. However, I know that INTPs and INFPs don't find it so easy, in part because - lacking even weak Se - they can't space out/doodle/do homework during class and simultaneously pay enough attention to get the important bits. I've seen many times some of the most creative and intelligent students struggle with homework, not because it's too difficult but just because they don't find it interesting and lack the motivation to do something they see as pointless. An ideal arrangement would first and foremost allow intuitives and students with interests to explore those interests ... but alas, that's not terribly easy in a class of 20+ students.
As an ENTP I thank you to putting this problem into words. I heard a lot of explanations from teachers why homeworks are important from Si point of view, but understanding the point was no help. It is like with Dr. House - random talk about termits can be more to us usefull than doing homeworks.
I'm still having trouble with institutions, I study better myself, I just read books of my interest which goes upto highly theorical ones at times, but that just makes instructions either too boring or stressfully useless.
When you said this info would be like an "awakening" experience to an intuitive I leaned back on the couch, sighed and smiled. I feel understood for the first time.
When you explained about Perspectives (introverted intuition) I just had to shed a tear about all the times I was easily foreseeing stuff and could not explain to others why it was so vivid/important to me when nobody could see it coming in the next week I could so clearly see it come to pass in the next month(s). I have learned to indeed not show my perspectives to people because they often get irritated about such "unsure events".. These days I do have my events of seeing into the future but... wait for the right moment/person to speak about those things.
The Dr. House example I always thought of as Ni usage- A thought crystallizing out of 'thin air' due to background processes that were at work leading to an 'aha' moment.
Dr House is ENTP. INTJ is never that outgoing to the world as Dr House is. ENTP are often the smartest MBTI type due to the primary Extraverted Intuition - however it often comes at a cost of appearing excessively weird.
@@ArchimondetheDestroyerofWorlds idk, but i think house isn't that outgoing either... he's only like that w a select few that he's close with. and as he's an unhealthy one, he's basically a jerk to everyone (close or not). u can differentiate how he interacts w outsiders and close ones as he is teaching class and interacting w his hospital chief (sorry I forget her name). idk, cmiiw
When intuition comes to mind I think of 'cause and effect' because Ni is trying to condense what it knows to understand the 'origin' of its information while Ne is branching outward to collect patterns to understand the 'potential' of the information it has gathered.
The way you guys packaged the information is just so coherent. I was having a hard time seeing which process my mind clearly worked with, but you put it in a way so brilliant, that i finally can see it. I had doubts but i'm definitely more Perspectives. Best wishes from brazillian INFJ :)
I remember one moment in senior year I was sitting with these 2 girls and they were talking about something and the one girl said something to which the other girl responded "You're so awkward" and my ass interjected "I'm awkward too" and the second girl literally looked at me with a tinge of discomfort and slowly but subtly nodded while saying "No, you're wweeeeiirrrd." never had I felt to self-conscious about my personality like that day lmao😭😂😂but I get you man good timessss because now I love that I'm weird and you should tooo!!
Wait no this kinda sounds like toxic positivity what I mean was your weirdness makes the world evolve and grow and we need people with your weirdness!!!
Loved this... as a (left-handed) female INTJ I have always been considered the "weird one". Although growing up confused as to why I was not necessarily fitting in , it fortunately didn't stop me from going through life confidently. However, I can completely understand how other Nis may feel out of place in this world and in turn feel self-conscious. The MBTI was brought to my attention a few years ago by one of my clients (a psychologist) and it's been a fascination of mine ever since: a way to make sense of people and explain why they are the way they are. A system. Anyway... I could go on and on... thanks again!
I'm an ENFJ with a pretty robust Perspectives process, and I can definitely vouch for what Joel and Antonia are saying. I work in government and politics, so I rely on Ni quite frequently to assess social movements, political campaigns, candidate quality, etc. Using those assessments, which seem to happen at a subconscious level, I forecast election outcomes, geopolitical shifts, and more. Listen, I don't bat 1000, but it's an uncannily accurate perceiving function. I remember taking part in a study two years ago where the instructors asked participants to answer the question "Where do you see the world in 15 years," and I specifically mentioned the likelihood of armed conflict between Russia and Ukraine as well as unprecedented civil unrest in Iran in the near future. That kind of stuff even freaks me out!
Your spot on I’m a INFJ and most don’t understand me I can read most people with 95% accuracy and yes I’m probably one of the 10% in the world. I like your show loads thanks
Ni is so easy. It's easy! All that you have to do is not-think up the answer you're looking for :-). Not-thinking is not thinking, nor no thoughts, but a relaxed state that meets your life's needs. Just like going to sleep; you're in a relaxed state and you process the thoughts of the day without knowing that you're doing it. Then you come out of it - you wake up - and whatever your brain did while asleep, without your involvement, now you have resolved some issue that troubled you the day before(without trying, without knowing how, without effort). Well something like that. It's the perfect function to be penniless and wise...
I was at a party🙄last night. I received a sea of glazed over eyes in response to my attempt to steer the conversation to a deeper level. 😂I abhor small talk. It is awkward. INFJ😎
Another comment lol... I’ve always used terms like “I’m internalizing my feelings” or “I can see your perspective”, or “If I had that perspective, I could see how you feel that way”. It’s always came easy to put myself in other peoples shoes. Many people think that I can see into the future, like I’m some kind of a psychic... all I really do is see patterns and know that history repeats itself and so I get a pretty clear knowledge on how it will play out again. Until recently, I didn’t realize how unique that way of thinking is. Thank you 🙏🏻
I think u will find perspectives in a lot of older literature. Eg Jesus, Buddha, a lot of the enlightened beings ‘gods’ even possibly Shakespeare and all those poetic and metaphoric types. These ppl are my true and real mentors who worked out their own minds and became enlightened and therefore could predict other’s minds as a result of self realisations and self awareness enlightenment etc. some brilliant minds were these genius that very rare few people understand to this day and lots of people still misinformed retort their metaphorical and highly creative speech for this is exactly how my unconscious introverted intuition works. Very symbolic and takes lots of self analysis and awareness but is soooooo much fun
That part made me realise why I say “do you know what I mean” a lot 😂😂 or “do you get me”. I need to make sure your image is accurate to what I’m describing
INTJ here. My Ni in my primary spot is very intense especially when I sit quietly with it, open to receiving information. Interesting to say that I am an energy worker. I went to a trade school to learn my trade. As I observed my collegues, I noticed that they had a lot of bias while they practiced their energy work on others... not every energy worker has pure motives through a lense and filter that is safe and effective.
I use Ni and I find Ne users frustrating. When trying to get the meaning of a simple statement. Ne users turn it into an endless loop of possibilities even though the answer is right in front of them. Even if you tell them the answer, they turn it into another possibilities. It's hard to come to a simple conclusion to a problem with them.
@@polinaosipova1087 we accept the truth only after understand every possibilities,ne users are at a constant search for more accurate truth than ni users....every ones truth is diffrent depends on their perspective...but i can say one thing ne users truths were not simple ,it was made up by constant searching ,,,their quest for truth never ends until find the ultimate.....
@@polinaosipova1087i,m an entp and yes,u r right ni didnt tell anybody about the truth they realize,because they dont know how to express it to others...because that truth came to them automatically or gradually..they dont try hard for it..its your advantage..i envy about you truly for that. But ne has to work for that .we need to use external sources a lot for that ..we have to solve the problems like playing the chess..for access the ultimate truth..so we knew the steps to it...and able to express or communicate it with others...so we love debate about it with others..we think its our responsibilty to share the truth we know...a healthy and fully mentally grown entp tries to revolutinize the world because of this sharing process...but the world full of sensors didnt allow us to get into our full potential...so frustrated entp creates chaos like joker does in batman others remain in chains constantly try to break it...being an entp is an adventure...only NT can understand us......
WILLINGTON BEDU,,because we are very curious and doubtfull about every thing we see ,hear or felt..we want to examine it from every angle before accept it...we dont believe any thing simply...but i think our conclusion would be accurate....we like to to play the game before access truth or information like the cat does to mice before eat it....
@@polinaosipova1087 the diff between ntp and ntj are Ntp has projects without goals Ntj has projects for goals Ntps collect information and search truth for their enjoyment,its our orgasm. Ntjs collect or study for achieve their goals. Ntps are on a constant search for informations because we think it is our goal 😆🙃we dont have other external goals to live better...but to think better...it is our quest...
I was listening to this before bed and while you were talking about perspectives, I shouted really loud “YEAH DUDE”, I especially shouted in the ending when you said “perspectives dont wanna know what if, they wanna know why”
I've always accepted the fact that I learned and thought differently. Though ppl have often misunderstood me, I was always in amoured by my brain/mind. This is good
I'm turning 50 this year, just 1 month ago I discovered that I am an INFJ-A, my whole life all of a sudden makes sense. Public school was a slow death inside me day after day. I've had answers that I have no worldy reason for knowing my entire life. Only 2 years ago someone finally told me that I am spiritually prophetically gifted. Dreams, visions and warnings. So these topics have created a new universe in my mind to explore. So I see at least 6 evolutions in the personality traits. 1.Base line (hard wiring.) 2. Immature phase 3. Immature overlapping maturity. 4. Maturity 5. Spiritual awakening. 6. Then a redeemed base line. Embracing how you are made. There is probably endless variations of between phases. Anyway I finally make sense to myself. And I have finally found a friend that I connect with and we understand each other, another INFJ.
All my kids and everyone in my family think I am so weird because I am Introverted Intuition personality I am so avoided especially as I get older since they do not get it and I have naturally gained grounds with adding on to what I have already learned and it just comes into my head most of the times with especially stuff I love or just knowing why this is happening. Also, the FJ makes it even stronger.
Wow, spot-on, I feel so much better after listening to your podcasts! Thank you so much for reaching out to intuitives! Though I think by your own definition Einstein was a perspective user
As an introverted intuitive you nailed it! People are so freaked out by my ability to read their minds and see behind "the curtain" in their lives! "How do you know that!?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I've heard that my whole life! I love this podcast!
Steven Verkest step into your authenticity. Give yourself the permission and if people leave, they weren't serving you. This will leave room for the people that belong in your life.. : )
@Wayne H if you cant be yourself around someone, then its time to cut the cord. If you want to hide yourself from someone thats not a good thing. If your not hiding your true self from someone then its all good. Just realize tjere are way to many empath narcassist dicotomy happening and narcs. get people to suppress thereselves. Im saying to all types. If they dont like you how you are, let them go and find happiness.
@Wayne H So I know this is an old comment but I hope you see my reply. What do you mean by not using the term narc anymore? I'm glad you figured out a way to still have your mom involved in your life. Kudos to you that you knew how to engineer her. Does that mean you think narcs are able to be engineered? Is there hope for them to change?
I'm an ENFJ and have Ni as my Auxiliary function, and I always choose the seat in a restaurant or even at home at my dining table with my family, with my back facing the corner wall, so that I can see everything that is going on. I feel so uncomfortable when I'm in a seat that has my back facing the entrance or the open area in the restaurant. This is the first time I've heard a podcast or a video explaining why a person who relies on Ni does this, and now I see the connection! I've always been puzzled as to why I am always more comfortable to sit in a position where I can have a view of "what's going on", and thank you so much for bringing light to this!
I don't know if this is an Ne (exploration) thing, but I keep misinterpreting stuff, which can be really frustrating and makes me feel stupid at times. For example, somebody tells me they have a Jaguar and I think they are talking about their pet and not (which would make a whole lot more sense) about their car.😆 (This is a fictional example, but you get the point.) Or recently I saw a poster with the word "IN" on it (in big letters, followed by other words) and instead of seeing it as an actual word with a meaning I thought I and N were the initials for something (like AI- artificial intelligence). And this is not even the weirdest stuff my mind comes up with. It's usually AFTER my brain makes some sort of connection that I realize it doesn't actually make any sense.😏
Thank you for the encouragement about intuition. I have recently discovered that I am an INFP. I keep returning to intuition in my life. I am into music, art, poetry, etc. Currently, I am taking a drawing course online. But I also practice waterpainting. My skills need lots of improvement, so thanks!
I use tertiary Ni. I like talking about God faith Mbti Music passion dreams life. It's wierd im very Se facts reality but my Ni kicks in and I can see patterns. I'll still trust Se more. But Ni is there and it has scared me at times.
Whiteboard Becky it's too hard to explain and explaining kicks in that mindset which if ur scared of makes it go to scary places and sometimes it's hard to switch back.
How fun, you use one of my favorite words. Perspectives for the conscious creator is the clay you work with, it is changeable, perfect for creating the future you want. Thank you for Personality Hacker I am gaining so much understanding as to why I feel like a foreigner in my own land.
i love how you’re talking about pictures forming in heads as a result of words. i have aphantasia so im not getting any image from any word but recently i learned that pictures from words exist. so does my knowledge that people have pictures and i don’t count as understanding that different pictures form from words and therefore label me as a perspectives user? nah, just kidding. im so bad at it i didn’t even know that no one else really sees nothing as i do edit: i’ve had a struggle for a while now with wondering whether i’m even intuition dominant and your explanation with buttons made me realise just how Ne i really am. i completely suck at connecting with people and i see other people with N reading into people which i just really can’t do. people i kinda take at their word sort of. however, buttons, devices, objects i can understand even though i don’t really know it much. recently, i was helping someone set up their facebook account. i have absolutely no experience with facebook itself, but i have used things like twitter, tumblr and instagram for a while so i was able to navigate it almost as though i had used it for years (though facebook is so weird in its set up i really don’t like it)
INxJ Fascinating! Have begun to understand myself over the last few months in ways I've never been able to in the past. By my own methods of self reflection I've come to speak in terms that now, after watching this, I see aren't crazy. I don't have myself figured wrong, I'm right. Everything you just talked about hit home so hard--almost word for word the way I've described myself to myself. Thank you. Gonna check out PHs IA info now!
28:00 this is me. Always in a one sided relation. Thank goodness for you tube or I would still be being held down by like the 15 people that were all piled on me, while I was trying and trying to break free. You tube valideted me and like an explosion I flung them all of. Now there's no one. I almost miss the one sidedness. Thank goodness for people like these two!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you. Just the words " At least there are two people who understand how you think." Mean a great deal to me. I have spent my entire life being the weird one, Even in my groups of friends. Hearing the one sided relationship portion really cut deep. Maybe I can share this with my loved ones and hope they take the time to really understand This genuinely brought tears to my eyes. (A difficult feat to achieve.) And I'm really thankful I came across this podcast, and your channel. Subscribed.
@@SimpleAwesomeness Sadly. They chose not to. Wasn't worth the time to them I suppose. I have moved past it however, My focus in on my goals instead. If they do not think that I am worth the energy to understand, They deserve the same in turn. I sincerely hope it work out better on your end however. Good luck!
INFP male here. Growing up, ive always aks people what if questions. And people always say that my scenario would never happen and i just say "i know but what if?"
It's funny, I'm simultaneously known as being quite adept at making peace between two parties who've misunderstood one another and also known as being contentious and undiplomatic. I think the difference really hangs on whether I think one party is morally wrong.
As an INFJ, my bosses are always teasing me about being a weirdo, fortunately both of them do it with a big grin on their faces. I find small talk really difficult so I really resonate to Joels issue with his friend.
Great insights. Just one little suggestion: "perspectives tends to depth and exploration to breadth" (speed is about time and thus perspectives likes slower and exploration likes speedier). Breadth: Explorers love connecting Everything to Everything - natural for them to do this - they are the best metaphor makers - salt cellars and husbands.
Putting 18:15 in another perspective. When you say you picture a teacup, I cannot even picture a teacup(Lookup aphantasy). This proves your point in that people think differently.
Well u said that that cause that person have spirit. But intuition is about Idea. Sensor type is slow in idea. Sensor Type is always see and understand. Intuition Tupe is had Idea in first Thought.
I appreciated how you described distractions being an issue for Ni users. I LIVE with my headphones in my ears, most of the time I’m not even listening to anything at all but to Simply drown out ALL the sensory input coming. I can hear myself think I guess. It helps me feel more calm and confident. Like I’m in a bubble looking out and the world can’t look in. (Strange N analogy lol)
This is one of my absolute favourite podcasts! This is my take on it: intuition is new. All humans have all functions. The difference is the individual choice of operation one makes early in life. If Bobby chooses to lean more on his intuition than his senses, his intuition will be much more developed than in that of a child who leans more on his/her senses. They both have a preferred way of operating in life. I believe these choices are made soon after birth. Also, throughout the ages, intuition has not been a desired function. Those that would control the masses saw intuition as a huge threat. Witch hunts and the like, have taught man to suppress his intuition and rely only on his senses. Now that the world is changing so fast with regards to consciousness, future babies will choose their intuition over their senses. The more the world becomes conscious, the less man will rely on his senses. In the future, intuition - when truly developed - will be almost instant. And, by the way, I use both forms of intuition daily.
Damn I only know 2 other Perspectives users and feel so damn lucky theyre both my best friends. Ive also noticed Perspectives(Ni) users are NJs (xNxJ) and Ne users are NPs.
You spotted the pattern - that's how it works! Introverted Intuition is the style of intuition preferred by NJs, and Extraverted Intuition for NPs. -A-
I use Ni and you nailed me on the head. I have been listening to your information on the ENFJ and it has been scary accurate and it is refreshing to hear this. It has truly made me comfy in my own skin. Do you have any more information for the ENFJ??? Ni???
I bet wanting to be near a wall is natura instinc of generaly everyone, to not be attacked by predators, security etc, same reason why having feet to where door (opening) of the room is. Else you cant fully focus, sleep etc.
I like to think that we all use the 8 functions to some degree, I don’t like the whole “you’re an intp so you ONLY use Ne” outlook, it’s very black/white ans quite rigid. I do believe we all naturally have a preference for one, but that doesn’t mean we never tap into the othee. Humans are complex, so while you may prefer Ne since you’re an INTP that doesn’t inherently mean that you have to always use that function when analyzing the abstract if that makes sense lol
As an INTP 22 yr old male I have been labeled broken, weird, mentally in a different head space 😭😂 . There are too many sensor users in the greater Los Angeles area.
You've really described me. I don't do normal. It's been difficult to find a mentor as well. I end up teaching in those conversations and I never hear from them again. At 22:00 yep, that's me! Since I understand there's not a lot of people to talk to, about my perspectives, I go to a therapist. lol I have what feels like 20 📚 I'm co-reading. 😆 Eerily accurate. 😬 I repeatedly get the message, "what's wrong with you?" Now I'll just say, I'm evolved! 😉
Each person uses both of these to certain degrees. Like a muscle they can be trained up, sort of, my own experience of introverted intuition has been that it just happens. If the conscious mind is brought to task through a deep understanding of each then it is possible to ‘break the box.’
I agree with Emanuel that it's not new, but it's rare. I'm just now learning what the term is called for persons who don't think intuitively which is "sensors". I mean I can't talk to ANYBODY about being intuitive and have lost jobs and friendships because I'm deemed a know-it-all and persons find me unnerving or just odd coz I know this stuff that I have NO idea how I know and it's not something I can stop, so I keep it to myself. I still don't know how it works.
I personally use both of these functions despite the fact that that's not supposed to be how that works. The one thing described in this video that I don't relate to is the idea that being an intuition user equates fearlessness. The one Big Five trait that's not represented in Myers Briggs or Jungian functions is the trait of neuroticism. As a neurotic intuitive, functioning in the real world is near impossible because I have to constantly force faith in my intuition and it just feels like I'm shy diving without a parachute.
Exactly! Others say, “How did you know that, 😳😳😳👀? My reply; 🤔 🤔🤔🧐😊. Scary accurate very often, not always but it’s wildly accurate!🌸. Love your content!
From personal experience I've found intuitives to be, on average, more intelligent than sensors. If I'm discussing something with an intelligent sensor they will understand what I'm trying to convey better than what an unintelligent intuitive (intuition does not equal IQ) , but if what I'm talking about is loaded with intuition they'll just find what I'm saying to be pointless/uninteresting. I don't want to be biased, but it really just seems to me that intuitives are also more creative.
I'll respectfully disagree here. Sensors want to fully understand the data before forming the theory (not that they *can't*). So the pace and process of getting there can be frustrating to us Intuitives ... but that doesn't make them less intelligent. When they *do* get to the point where they form a theory, it's usually more reliably accurate - so in cases where that is critical (medicine etc) sensors will have an edge, actually. Just appreciate our relative strengths and weaknesses without judgement ;)
tested three times as INTJ. it's a blessing and a curse. we formulate abstractions and most think we're jumping to conclusions. but in fact, most are lazy thinkers. why not find your own presuppositions? if i'm to explain these abstractions, it will be an essay at least 50 pages long. it's very helpful for intuitives to read other authors that are the same, this will help them articulate much better. Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Dosteyevsky are good recommendations. as an example of how my mind works, i listened to a clip by leewang hom, watched my mind form patterns, where have i heard that before? pachebelle cannon d! the highest level of abstraction in philosophy, such as power and beauty, is best expressed in art and music. Nietzsche never mentioned what power is, or what is it related to, but he does talk a lot about power, health, and dance. but for INTJ, we're either obsessed with beauty (aesthetics), or prefer to live in a box.
You will have one of them in your shadow functions, but as long as Intuition is either your first or second function, you will still have a fair bit of access to the other that will be in the 5th or 6th spot.
Do u think that perspectives may have an easier time entering the collective unconscious mind scape. Having a perspectives personality( infj) myself, I sometimes find myself mimicking others well. Like I lived as them. To me it seems like their unconscious speaks to me to guide me as if them, so as to better help them.
As a person who uses extroverted intuition, I kinda take this function for granted and not appreciate it because I think Ne cannot predict. Like I know I can use Si to see my stored info to see the most probable possibility but I still feel this unexplainable envy😅 Introverted intuition is my shadow so I really can't access it until someone reflects it back to me
Okay so one thing that stood out to me, I am an infp, so I use Ne over Ni but I am often the one pointing out that there is more than one way to interpret things, context matters and how are you using that word. Are you sure that is an Ni thing?
It's cultivated and fine tuned from having restrictions on the physical senses. And from alot of trauma and not having validation or support or peers. The part of the bible where Lilith was accused of wanting sexual domination,. She was actually trying to help people who couldn't perceive the hidden and interdimensional traps and dangers. That they couldn't and still can't see,. Kinda like what has been happening with the current times. Not one person apologized for dismissing and attacking me trying to alert,. Not even a knowledgement for trying to have the cops force a mental health evaluation or trying to prove me unfit parent.
This is extraordinary. Thank you for sharing this information. As a “perspectives” user, it is incredible to hear other people talk about this and actually understand this type of learning. Thank you for seeing us.
Every time I’ve denied or betrayed my Ni when it arose it would usually get me into BIG trouble. I still feel uneasy listening and acting upon it because I grew up in a sensor environment and conditioned myself to undermine Ni but I’m working on listening to it again. Thanks for the video! Super enlightening! I loved how you described Ni distractions and situating ourselves so we can see what’s coming! It’s so true!!! It makes me a jumpy driver though when turning corners where I can’t see around them 😆 Also, if I am situated in a way that I can’t see what/who’s coming in to my environment, I feel so vulnerable and naked. It definitely makes for a very uncomfortable workspace. Also, I always thought Ni to be of the first cognitive functions to evolve. I believe we were the first to evolve and slowly are becoming extinct.
Not sure if to be extremely happy to know I'm not the only one and I'm normal OR if to be sad that I'm technically the only one since we are so rare and therefore not the "norm"
I am a Perspective but I am also high in Exploitative too because growing up my culture was very creative You creativity to bridge the gap between both, but being this creativevyou can trigger people around you.
Is it weird that I’m a confirmed INFJ but absolutely suck at looking for patterns? Like that leaves something for me to desire. Main reason why I’m an intuitive is because instead of patterns, I just have an extremely abstract imagination. I also don’t know how to “predict” the future via pattern recognition unlike other INFJs.
40:32 You may call me a super-weirdo, but for me these are two simultaneous processes, on two planes- one horizontal (speed of info in and out- mostly in) and one vertical (depth, a much, much slower pace). Imagine two pyramids one on top of each other, with a series of parallel horizontal planes which are the interface with the world. These areas (cross sections of the pyramids) get smaller and smaller as my focus on inner processes increases. I am very sorry for not being able to explain it better but I hope you can visualise it. Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe I AM crazy, after all… 🙁
I was excited to listen to this podcast. However, I feel more confused than before. I connect with almost all points for both sides. I am an ISTP. The perspectives is extremely close to my heart and being able to sit down with an INFJ, we feel like we finally get each other. On the other hand, I'm very close to the exploration. I make a lot of connections and have created and invented several ideas and enjoy putting those exploration ideas together. I'd love to hear your thoughts! :)
It sounds like your know Introverted Intuition is a process accessible to ISTPs. But the resonance you may feel with Extraverted Intuition may be conflating it with your Extraverted Sensing process (which can look similar when paired with Introverted Intuition). We did a podcast on the ISTP personality type - this may give some insight into how your functions are working: personalityhacker.com/podcast-episode-0103-istp-personality-type-advice/ -A-
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Normal is boring.
As an INTJ woman department director I had a direct report position that was mission critical to our outcome. Long story short, I created an exact questionnaire for every applicant and administered the MBTI to each. I really liked a particular candidate, she and I got along well , BUT when I saw her MBTI score I wanted to throw up. Me: INTJ, Her: ISFJ. I almost didn’t hire her because of our innate differences. In my world no room for feelings. However, I thought about it, interviewed a few more people when the light 💡 came on. Hiring someone different would be an ASSET. I brought her back in and had a frank conversation about conflict. I told her for certain that we’d have conflicts but knowing this ahead of time we could talk about it, present our feeling and thinking arguments so we could create a better department and program. BEST DECISION I EVER MADE!!!!!!! Tytyy🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
This brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for this video. I'm an INFJ and I did grow up believing that there is something wrong with me. When I discovered cognitive functions it started to change my life. I am honestly grateful for your contribution, thank you for sharing this information with the world.
I feel you.
My close frnd is infj bruh yr must be cool.
❤INFJ
Same experience when I learned that I was just different, not wrong ❤ (INFP)
I hear you!! I'm also an INFJ, and the channel by Wenzes INFJ Life Coach has truly helped. Check out some of her stuff, it might help you too 😊 th-cam.com/video/U_YFaNhLNGI/w-d-xo.html
I'm am INTJ and currently a scientist at a prominent university with a promising career ahead. In elementary school my teachers kind of implied to my parents that something was wrong with me, I might have been better off with going to a school for children with mental disabilities. I was already 14 years old when I realized that you can't be happy in this world unless you force on a mask, the mask of the average "good student". Every minute of school was a struggle until I made it to university where I managed to find my very small tribe and my best friend an INFP. Knowing my type these days gives me a huge relief that I'm not alone, there was never anything wrong with me. Thanks for this podcast :)
its so good to know that i am not as completely alone in this world as i feel most of the time. there are many days that i just really dont like being me anymore because it is so lonely sometimes and i feel like no one understands me and im tired of being treated as a strange outsider, im tired of seeing the way people truely feel about me without them telling me. im tired of knowing what people really feel vs. what they say, it gives me the feeling that just about every person in this world is a liar. on the positive side though it sure is very interesting inside my head. my mental activity is never ever boring.
are you an infj? you are deffinately an INXJ and you are AWESOME just fyi
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@@lillymistress1080 im not sure which one i am. thank you!
sure that would be nice
@@samtavoosian3059 i found you on instagram and im like so blushing right now!!!!! im not looking for half naked muscular studs per say but do like to connect with others on my wavelength. :) :)
You're so right about education systems not being well suited for intuitives. Like many INTJ's (well, in my experience) I've been able to sort drift through without too much effort, allowing Ni to make the necessary connections. However, I know that INTPs and INFPs don't find it so easy, in part because - lacking even weak Se - they can't space out/doodle/do homework during class and simultaneously pay enough attention to get the important bits. I've seen many times some of the most creative and intelligent students struggle with homework, not because it's too difficult but just because they don't find it interesting and lack the motivation to do something they see as pointless.
An ideal arrangement would first and foremost allow intuitives and students with interests to explore those interests ... but alas, that's not terribly easy in a class of 20+ students.
dancinmad homeschooling my boy ...
Extroverted Intuition is diffucult to explain. You just know... things...Great info.
As an ENTP I thank you to putting this problem into words. I heard a lot of explanations from teachers why homeworks are important from Si point of view, but understanding the point was no help. It is like with Dr. House - random talk about termits can be more to us usefull than doing homeworks.
I'm still having trouble with institutions, I study better myself, I just read books of my interest which goes upto highly theorical ones at times, but that just makes instructions either too boring or stressfully useless.
When you said this info would be like an "awakening" experience to an intuitive I leaned back on the couch, sighed and smiled. I feel understood for the first time.
When you explained about Perspectives (introverted intuition) I just had to shed a tear about all the times I was easily foreseeing stuff and could not explain to others why it was so vivid/important to me when nobody could see it coming in the next week I could so clearly see it come to pass in the next month(s). I have learned to indeed not show my perspectives to people because they often get irritated about such "unsure events".. These days I do have my events of seeing into the future but... wait for the right moment/person to speak about those things.
The Dr. House example I always thought of as Ni usage- A thought crystallizing out of 'thin air' due to background processes that were at work leading to an 'aha' moment.
Yes, total INTJ
Hes a depressed ISTP. He is SeNi.
Dr House is ENTP. INTJ is never that outgoing to the world as Dr House is. ENTP are often the smartest MBTI type due to the primary Extraverted Intuition - however it often comes at a cost of appearing excessively weird.
@@ArchimondetheDestroyerofWorlds idk, but i think house isn't that outgoing either... he's only like that w a select few that he's close with. and as he's an unhealthy one, he's basically a jerk to everyone (close or not). u can differentiate how he interacts w outsiders and close ones as he is teaching class and interacting w his hospital chief (sorry I forget her name). idk, cmiiw
I love that series. Dr House was very intuitive. He is on my wavelength. ❤💛💜💙🧡💚
“We love you in fiction, but we hate you in reality” 😂😂😂😂 So true!! They might even hate you in fiction since it’s not “realistic” enough to them...
My function is extrovert intuition and this is the first time someone described my mind to me, in immaculate accuracy. Thank you.
When intuition comes to mind I think of 'cause and effect' because Ni is trying to condense what it knows to understand the 'origin' of its information while Ne is branching outward to collect patterns to understand the 'potential' of the information it has gathered.
These podxasts deserve a lot more attention from the mbti world. Highly insightful. (INFP)
The way you guys packaged the information is just so coherent. I was having a hard time seeing which process my mind clearly worked with, but you put it in a way so brilliant, that i finally can see it. I had doubts but i'm definitely more Perspectives. Best wishes from brazillian INFJ :)
In high school the prom king used to call me "weird girl." Good times.
I remember one moment in senior year I was sitting with these 2 girls and they were talking about something and the one girl said something to which the other girl responded "You're so awkward" and my ass interjected "I'm awkward too" and the second girl literally looked at me with a tinge of discomfort and slowly but subtly nodded while saying "No, you're wweeeeiirrrd." never had I felt to self-conscious about my personality like that day lmao😭😂😂but I get you man good timessss because now I love that I'm weird and you should tooo!!
Wait no this kinda sounds like toxic positivity what I mean was your weirdness makes the world evolve and grow and we need people with your weirdness!!!
The unintuitives are weird too, they just out number us intuitive. These people want us to be their tools and servents.
@@talghow-i2326 Being a weirdo is relative, Nice point 😊
I was the weird girl.😂
Loved this... as a (left-handed) female INTJ I have always been considered the "weird one". Although growing up confused as to why I was not necessarily fitting in , it fortunately didn't stop me from going through life confidently. However, I can completely understand how other Nis may feel out of place in this world and in turn feel self-conscious. The MBTI was brought to my attention a few years ago by one of my clients (a psychologist) and it's been a fascination of mine ever since: a way to make sense of people and explain why they are the way they are. A system. Anyway... I could go on and on... thanks again!
Hey I'm also a left-handed female INTJ! Supposedly that's a rarity lol
This is really rare! ENTJ and INTJ women are extremely rare, much rare than INFJs for example.
I'm an ENFJ with a pretty robust Perspectives process, and I can definitely vouch for what Joel and Antonia are saying. I work in government and politics, so I rely on Ni quite frequently to assess social movements, political campaigns, candidate quality, etc. Using those assessments, which seem to happen at a subconscious level, I forecast election outcomes, geopolitical shifts, and more. Listen, I don't bat 1000, but it's an uncannily accurate perceiving function. I remember taking part in a study two years ago where the instructors asked participants to answer the question "Where do you see the world in 15 years," and I specifically mentioned the likelihood of armed conflict between Russia and Ukraine as well as unprecedented civil unrest in Iran in the near future. That kind of stuff even freaks me out!
Your spot on I’m a INFJ and most don’t understand me I can read most people with 95% accuracy and yes I’m probably one of the 10% in the world. I like your show loads thanks
Omg, the perspectives insights here are amazing. I feel so incredibly SEEN when I listen to you guys. You are brilliant. Thank you. 🙏
Ni is so easy. It's easy! All that you have to do is not-think up the answer you're looking for :-).
Not-thinking is not thinking, nor no thoughts, but a relaxed state that meets your life's needs. Just like going to sleep; you're in a relaxed state and you process the thoughts of the day without knowing that you're doing it. Then you come out of it - you wake up - and whatever your brain did while asleep, without your involvement, now you have resolved some issue that troubled you the day before(without trying, without knowing how, without effort).
Well something like that. It's the perfect function to be penniless and wise...
Hmmm.
I was at a party🙄last night. I received a sea of glazed over eyes in response to my attempt to steer the conversation to a deeper level. 😂I abhor small talk. It is awkward. INFJ😎
Another comment lol... I’ve always used terms like “I’m internalizing my feelings” or “I can see your perspective”, or “If I had that perspective, I could see how you feel that way”. It’s always came easy to put myself in other peoples shoes. Many people think that I can see into the future, like I’m some kind of a psychic... all I really do is see patterns and know that history repeats itself and so I get a pretty clear knowledge on how it will play out again. Until recently, I didn’t realize how unique that way of thinking is. Thank you 🙏🏻
I think u will find perspectives in a lot of older literature. Eg Jesus, Buddha, a lot of the enlightened beings ‘gods’ even possibly Shakespeare and all those poetic and metaphoric types. These ppl are my true and real mentors who worked out their own minds and became enlightened and therefore could predict other’s minds as a result of self realisations and self awareness enlightenment etc. some brilliant minds were these genius that very rare few people understand to this day and lots of people still misinformed retort their metaphorical and highly creative speech for this is exactly how my unconscious introverted intuition works. Very symbolic and takes lots of self analysis and awareness but is soooooo much fun
Hi infj here, 😉 the teacup part, when you were talking about a tea cup, I thought chip from beauty and the beast! Ha
Same here.
INTP here, I thought of an ornate tea cup, then lost that mental picture and thought of chip as well, lol
Hey I thought the same thing!
That part made me realise why I say “do you know what I mean” a lot 😂😂 or “do you get me”. I need to make sure your image is accurate to what I’m describing
WOW! Isn't that crazy? I'm always shocked when my great intentions and love for people makes some people so mad! It feels like a a fist in the face!
INTJ here. My Ni in my primary spot is very intense especially when I sit quietly with it, open to receiving information. Interesting to say that I am an energy worker. I went to a trade school to learn my trade. As I observed my collegues, I noticed that they had a lot of bias while they practiced their energy work on others... not every energy worker has pure motives through a lense and filter that is safe and effective.
I use Ni and I find Ne users frustrating. When trying to get the meaning of a simple statement. Ne users turn it into an endless loop of possibilities even though the answer is right in front of them. Even if you tell them the answer, they turn it into another possibilities. It's hard to come to a simple conclusion to a problem with them.
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@@polinaosipova1087 we accept the truth only after understand every possibilities,ne users are at a constant search for more accurate truth than ni users....every ones truth is diffrent depends on their perspective...but i can say one thing ne users truths were not simple ,it was made up by constant searching ,,,their quest for truth never ends until find the ultimate.....
@@polinaosipova1087i,m an entp and yes,u r right ni didnt tell anybody about the truth they realize,because they dont know how to express it to others...because that truth came to them automatically or gradually..they dont try hard for it..its your advantage..i envy about you truly for that.
But ne has to work for that .we need to use external sources a lot for that ..we have to solve the problems like playing the chess..for access the ultimate truth..so we knew the steps to it...and able to express or communicate it with others...so we love debate about it with others..we think its our responsibilty to share the truth we know...a healthy and fully mentally grown entp tries to revolutinize the world because of this sharing process...but the world full of sensors didnt allow us to get into our full potential...so frustrated entp creates chaos like joker does in batman others remain in chains constantly try to break it...being an entp is an adventure...only NT can understand us......
WILLINGTON BEDU,,because we are very curious and doubtfull about every thing we see ,hear or felt..we want to examine it from every angle before accept it...we dont believe any thing simply...but i think our conclusion would be accurate....we like to to play the game before access truth or information like the cat does to mice before eat it....
@@polinaosipova1087 the diff between ntp and ntj are
Ntp has projects without goals
Ntj has projects for goals
Ntps collect information and search truth for their enjoyment,its our orgasm.
Ntjs collect or study for achieve their goals.
Ntps are on a constant search for informations because we think it is our goal
😆🙃we dont have other external goals to live better...but to think better...it is our quest...
You make this sound way more fantastic than it really is.
I was listening to this before bed and while you were talking about perspectives, I shouted really loud “YEAH DUDE”, I especially shouted in the ending when you said “perspectives dont wanna know what if, they wanna know why”
I've always accepted the fact that I learned and thought differently. Though ppl have often misunderstood me, I was always in amoured by my brain/mind. This is good
Exactly...
I'm turning 50 this year, just 1 month ago I discovered that I am an INFJ-A, my whole life all of a sudden makes sense. Public school was a slow death inside me day after day. I've had answers that I have no worldy reason for knowing my entire life. Only 2 years ago someone finally told me that I am spiritually prophetically gifted. Dreams, visions and warnings. So these topics have created a new universe in my mind to explore. So I see at least 6 evolutions in the personality traits. 1.Base line (hard wiring.)
2. Immature phase
3. Immature overlapping maturity.
4. Maturity
5. Spiritual awakening.
6. Then a redeemed base line. Embracing how you are made.
There is probably endless variations of between phases. Anyway I finally make sense to myself. And I have finally found a friend that I connect with and we understand each other, another INFJ.
All my kids and everyone in my family think I am so weird because I am Introverted Intuition personality I am so avoided especially as I get older since they do not get it and I have naturally gained grounds with adding on to what I have already learned and it just comes into my head most of the times with especially stuff I love or just knowing why this is happening. Also, the FJ makes it even stronger.
Feels much better to call myself an intuitive rather than a weirdo.
Wow, spot-on, I feel so much better after listening to your podcasts! Thank you so much for reaching out to intuitives!
Though I think by your own definition Einstein was a perspective user
As an introverted intuitive you nailed it! People are so freaked out by my ability to read their minds and see behind "the curtain" in their lives! "How do you know that!?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I've heard that my whole life! I love this podcast!
44:45 yes, people do admire my Ne , but they never allow me to use it , it's just seen as 'cool' but like: can you do normal now please?
Steven Verkest step into your authenticity. Give yourself the permission and if people leave, they weren't serving you. This will leave room for the people that belong in your life.. : )
@Wayne H if you think that's bad advice, your locked in the matrix my friend.. Good luck to you, you will definetly be needing it. : )
@Wayne H if you cant be yourself around someone, then its time to cut the cord. If you want to hide yourself from someone thats not a good thing. If your not hiding your true self from someone then its all good.
Just realize tjere are way to many empath narcassist dicotomy happening and narcs. get people to suppress thereselves. Im saying to all types. If they dont like you how you are, let them go and find happiness.
Perhaps, they just don't understand it, if they don't have Ne at all
@Wayne H So I know this is an old comment but I hope you see my reply. What do you mean by not using the term narc anymore? I'm glad you figured out a way to still have your mom involved in your life. Kudos to you that you knew how to engineer her. Does that mean you think narcs are able to be engineered? Is there hope for them to change?
This is the best video I’ve ever watched in my life.
I'm an ENFJ and have Ni as my Auxiliary function, and I always choose the seat in a restaurant or even at home at my dining table with my family, with my back facing the corner wall, so that I can see everything that is going on. I feel so uncomfortable when I'm in a seat that has my back facing the entrance or the open area in the restaurant. This is the first time I've heard a podcast or a video explaining why a person who relies on Ni does this, and now I see the connection! I've always been puzzled as to why I am always more comfortable to sit in a position where I can have a view of "what's going on", and thank you so much for bringing light to this!
I don't know if this is an Ne (exploration) thing, but I keep misinterpreting stuff, which can be really frustrating and makes me feel stupid at times. For example, somebody tells me they have a Jaguar and I think they are talking about their pet and not (which would make a whole lot more sense) about their car.😆 (This is a fictional example, but you get the point.) Or recently I saw a poster with the word "IN" on it (in big letters, followed by other words) and instead of seeing it as an actual word with a meaning I thought I and N were the initials for something (like AI- artificial intelligence). And this is not even the weirdest stuff my mind comes up with. It's usually AFTER my brain makes some sort of connection that I realize it doesn't actually make any sense.😏
Thank you for the encouragement about intuition. I have recently discovered that I am an INFP. I keep returning to intuition in my life. I am into music, art, poetry, etc. Currently, I am taking a drawing course online. But I also practice waterpainting. My skills need lots of improvement, so thanks!
I use tertiary Ni. I like talking about God faith Mbti Music passion dreams life. It's wierd im very Se facts reality but my Ni kicks in and I can see patterns. I'll still trust Se more. But Ni is there and it has scared me at times.
Interesting. How has it scared you?
fucking same but don't quote me
Whiteboard Becky it's too hard to explain and explaining kicks in that mindset which if ur scared of makes it go to scary places and sometimes it's hard to switch back.
I face entrances for tactical purposes. Wouldn't want a possible assailant to get the jump on me because they were behind me.
How fun, you use one of my favorite words. Perspectives for the conscious creator is the clay you work with, it is changeable, perfect for creating the future you want. Thank you for Personality Hacker I am gaining so much understanding as to why I feel like a foreigner in my own land.
i love how you’re talking about pictures forming in heads as a result of words. i have aphantasia so im not getting any image from any word but recently i learned that pictures from words exist. so does my knowledge that people have pictures and i don’t count as understanding that different pictures form from words and therefore label me as a perspectives user?
nah, just kidding. im so bad at it i didn’t even know that no one else really sees nothing as i do
edit: i’ve had a struggle for a while now with wondering whether i’m even intuition dominant and your explanation with buttons made me realise just how Ne i really am. i completely suck at connecting with people and i see other people with N reading into people which i just really can’t do. people i kinda take at their word sort of. however, buttons, devices, objects i can understand even though i don’t really know it much. recently, i was helping someone set up their facebook account. i have absolutely no experience with facebook itself, but i have used things like twitter, tumblr and instagram for a while so i was able to navigate it almost as though i had used it for years (though facebook is so weird in its set up i really don’t like it)
INxJ
Fascinating! Have begun to understand myself over the last few months in ways I've never been able to in the past. By my own methods of self reflection I've come to speak in terms that now, after watching this, I see aren't crazy. I don't have myself figured wrong, I'm right. Everything you just talked about hit home so hard--almost word for word the way I've described myself to myself. Thank you.
Gonna check out PHs IA info now!
28:00 this is me. Always in a one sided relation. Thank goodness for you tube or I would still be being held down by like the 15 people that were all piled on me, while I was trying and trying to break free. You tube valideted me and like an explosion I flung them all of. Now there's no one. I almost miss the one sidedness. Thank goodness for people like these two!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great job guys, my perspective thanking you 🤩👌💐ENFJ
Ps. Intuition is my strongest suit, but feels very lonely as it’s really is so rare 🧐😊
We could have been burned as witches. Ha!
Thank you. Just the words " At least there are two people who understand how you think." Mean a great deal to me. I have spent my entire life being the weird one, Even in my groups of friends. Hearing the one sided relationship portion really cut deep. Maybe I can share this with my loved ones and hope they take the time to really understand This genuinely brought tears to my eyes. (A difficult feat to achieve.) And I'm really thankful I came across this podcast, and your channel. Subscribed.
Same here.
@@SimpleAwesomeness Sadly. They chose not to. Wasn't worth the time to them I suppose. I have moved past it however, My focus in on my goals instead. If they do not think that I am worth the energy to understand, They deserve the same in turn. I sincerely hope it work out better on your end however. Good luck!
INFP male here. Growing up, ive always aks people what if questions. And people always say that my scenario would never happen and i just say "i know but what if?"
It's funny, I'm simultaneously known as being quite adept at making peace between two parties who've misunderstood one another and also known as being contentious and undiplomatic. I think the difference really hangs on whether I think one party is morally wrong.
3:55 - that’s one big compliment.
11:10 - Introduction of Types of Intuition
As an INFJ, my bosses are always teasing me about being a weirdo, fortunately both of them do it with a big grin on their faces. I find small talk really difficult so I really resonate to Joels issue with his friend.
Great insights. Just one little suggestion: "perspectives tends to depth and exploration to breadth" (speed is about time and thus perspectives likes slower and exploration likes speedier). Breadth: Explorers love connecting Everything to Everything - natural for them to do this - they are the best metaphor makers - salt cellars and husbands.
Putting 18:15 in another perspective. When you say you picture a teacup, I cannot even picture a teacup(Lookup aphantasy). This proves your point in that people think differently.
Well u said that that cause that person have spirit.
But intuition is about Idea. Sensor type is slow in idea. Sensor Type is always see and understand. Intuition Tupe is had Idea in first Thought.
I appreciated how you described distractions being an issue for Ni users.
I LIVE with my headphones in my ears, most of the time I’m not even listening to anything at all but to Simply drown out ALL the sensory input coming. I can hear myself think I guess.
It helps me feel more calm and confident. Like I’m in a bubble looking out and the world can’t look in. (Strange N analogy lol)
Ear muffs work well to. Its just all quiet.
Intuitive awakening. I'll have to check it out.
This is one of my absolute favourite podcasts!
This is my take on it: intuition is new. All humans have all functions. The difference is the individual choice of operation one makes early in life. If Bobby chooses to lean more on his intuition than his senses, his intuition will be much more developed than in that of a child who leans more on his/her senses. They both have a preferred way of operating in life. I believe these choices are made soon after birth.
Also, throughout the ages, intuition has not been a desired function. Those that would control the masses saw intuition as a huge threat. Witch hunts and the like, have taught man to suppress his intuition and rely only on his senses. Now that the world is changing so fast with regards to consciousness, future babies will choose their intuition over their senses. The more the world becomes conscious, the less man will rely on his senses. In the future, intuition - when truly developed - will be almost instant. And, by the way, I use both forms of intuition daily.
Damn I only know 2 other Perspectives users and feel so damn lucky theyre both my best friends. Ive also noticed Perspectives(Ni) users are NJs (xNxJ) and Ne users are NPs.
You spotted the pattern - that's how it works! Introverted Intuition is the style of intuition preferred by NJs, and Extraverted Intuition for NPs.
-A-
Well I thought I was INFP then ENFP now I don't know what I am.
I use Ni and you nailed me on the head. I have been listening to your information on the ENFJ and it has been scary accurate and it is refreshing to hear this. It has truly made me comfy in my own skin. Do you have any more information for the ENFJ??? Ni???
You two rocked my world!!
Thank you
I bet wanting to be near a wall is natura instinc of generaly everyone, to not be attacked by predators, security etc, same reason why having feet to where door (opening) of the room is. Else you cant fully focus, sleep etc.
Ive never felt more understood
Great power comes great responsibility.
I am INTP, so have auxiliary Ne, but also have the Ni perspective and forecasting that you describe. Could a person be both Ne and Ni?
L I same
Both
Same here
Same here.
I like to think that we all use the 8 functions to some degree, I don’t like the whole “you’re an intp so you ONLY use Ne” outlook, it’s very black/white ans quite rigid. I do believe we all naturally have a preference for one, but that doesn’t mean we never tap into the othee. Humans are complex, so while you may prefer Ne since you’re an INTP that doesn’t inherently mean that you have to always use that function when analyzing the abstract if that makes sense lol
When you said teacup I thought about the carnival ride...
I thought about the teacup poodle.
You guys really are amazing! Keep hitting your channel as I get deeper into things. Def one of my top fave channels!
I am definitely a strong perspectives user by default, but my test results only showed exploration, which I also use.
Yes - the blood hound thing is real. When Ni is linked with Te it can happen during conversation
As an INTP 22 yr old male I have been labeled broken, weird, mentally in a different head space 😭😂 . There are too many sensor users in the greater Los Angeles area.
Move to Silicon Valley or Seattle. You will be in geek heaven.
Feels good to see a moroccan here. Im an ESTP and people always told me im weird. I have a decent Ni but I don't know how or why.
You've really described me. I don't do normal. It's been difficult to find a mentor as well. I end up teaching in those conversations and I never hear from them again.
At 22:00 yep, that's me!
Since I understand there's not a lot of people to talk to, about my perspectives, I go to a therapist. lol
I have what feels like 20 📚 I'm co-reading. 😆
Eerily accurate. 😬 I repeatedly get the message, "what's wrong with you?" Now I'll just say, I'm evolved! 😉
Thank you for this video.. I tired from listening people say you're wired
Thank you so much for this. It warmed my heart and it was highly informative -ENFP
Each person uses both of these to certain degrees. Like a muscle they can be trained up, sort of, my own experience of introverted intuition has been that it just happens. If the conscious mind is brought to task through a deep understanding of each then it is possible to ‘break the box.’
This channel is underrated
I agree with Emanuel that it's not new, but it's rare. I'm just now learning what the term is called for persons who don't think intuitively which is "sensors". I mean I can't talk to ANYBODY about being intuitive and have lost jobs and friendships because I'm deemed a know-it-all and persons find me unnerving or just odd coz I know this stuff that I have NO idea how I know and it's not something I can stop, so I keep it to myself. I still don't know how it works.
I personally use both of these functions despite the fact that that's not supposed to be how that works. The one thing described in this video that I don't relate to is the idea that being an intuition user equates fearlessness.
The one Big Five trait that's not represented in Myers Briggs or Jungian functions is the trait of neuroticism. As a neurotic intuitive, functioning in the real world is near impossible because I have to constantly force faith in my intuition and it just feels like I'm shy diving without a parachute.
Exactly! Others say, “How did you know that, 😳😳😳👀? My reply; 🤔 🤔🤔🧐😊. Scary accurate very often, not always but it’s wildly accurate!🌸. Love your content!
Yeah...told repeatedly in my youth how strange I was and asked why I couldn't "talk normal"
From personal experience I've found intuitives to be, on average, more intelligent than sensors. If I'm discussing something with an intelligent sensor they will understand what I'm trying to convey better than what an unintelligent intuitive (intuition does not equal IQ) , but if what I'm talking about is loaded with intuition they'll just find what I'm saying to be pointless/uninteresting. I don't want to be biased, but it really just seems to me that intuitives are also more creative.
If you have an intellectual conversation they assume you're on drugs or something. Vs. our minds just naturally being more web-like and inventive.
I'll respectfully disagree here. Sensors want to fully understand the data before forming the theory (not that they *can't*). So the pace and process of getting there can be frustrating to us Intuitives ... but that doesn't make them less intelligent. When they *do* get to the point where they form a theory, it's usually more reliably accurate - so in cases where that is critical (medicine etc) sensors will have an edge, actually. Just appreciate our relative strengths and weaknesses without judgement ;)
tested three times as INTJ. it's a blessing and a curse. we formulate abstractions and most think we're jumping to conclusions. but in fact, most are lazy thinkers. why not find your own presuppositions? if i'm to explain these abstractions, it will be an essay at least 50 pages long. it's very helpful for intuitives to read other authors that are the same, this will help them articulate much better. Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Dosteyevsky are good recommendations. as an example of how my mind works, i listened to a clip by leewang hom, watched my mind form patterns, where have i heard that before? pachebelle cannon d! the highest level of abstraction in philosophy, such as power and beauty, is best expressed in art and music. Nietzsche never mentioned what power is, or what is it related to, but he does talk a lot about power, health, and dance. but for INTJ, we're either obsessed with beauty (aesthetics), or prefer to live in a box.
I'm really confused because I am an INTP & I relate to both....is there an area of interconnection?
I strongly identify with both of these styles. Are they usually mutually exclusive?
You will have one of them in your shadow functions, but as long as Intuition is either your first or second function, you will still have a fair bit of access to the other that will be in the 5th or 6th spot.
I am Ni and left handed 😁
Do u think that perspectives may have an easier time entering the collective unconscious mind scape. Having a perspectives personality( infj) myself, I sometimes find myself mimicking others well. Like I lived as them. To me it seems like their unconscious speaks to me to guide me as if them, so as to better help them.
As a person who uses extroverted intuition, I kinda take this function for granted and not appreciate it because I think Ne cannot predict. Like I know I can use Si to see my stored info to see the most probable possibility but I still feel this unexplainable envy😅 Introverted intuition is my shadow so I really can't access it until someone reflects it back to me
Okay so one thing that stood out to me, I am an infp, so I use Ne over Ni but I am often the one pointing out that there is more than one way to interpret things, context matters and how are you using that word. Are you sure that is an Ni thing?
It's cultivated and fine tuned from having restrictions on the physical senses. And from alot of trauma and not having validation or support or peers. The part of the bible where Lilith was accused of wanting sexual domination,. She was actually trying to help people who couldn't perceive the hidden and interdimensional traps and dangers. That they couldn't and still can't see,. Kinda like what has been happening with the current times. Not one person apologized for dismissing and attacking me trying to alert,. Not even a knowledgement for trying to have the cops force a mental health evaluation or trying to prove me unfit parent.
This is extraordinary. Thank you for sharing this information. As a “perspectives” user, it is incredible to hear other people talk about this and actually understand this type of learning. Thank you for seeing us.
Every time I’ve denied or betrayed my Ni when it arose it would usually get me into BIG trouble. I still feel uneasy listening and acting upon it because I grew up in a sensor environment and conditioned myself to undermine Ni but I’m working on listening to it again. Thanks for the video! Super enlightening!
I loved how you described Ni distractions and situating ourselves so we can see what’s coming! It’s so true!!! It makes me a jumpy driver though when turning corners where I can’t see around them 😆 Also, if I am situated in a way that I can’t see what/who’s coming in to my environment, I feel so vulnerable and naked. It definitely makes for a very uncomfortable workspace. Also, I always thought Ni to be of the first cognitive functions to evolve. I believe we were the first to evolve and slowly are becoming extinct.
Not sure if to be extremely happy to know I'm not the only one and I'm normal OR if to be sad that I'm technically the only one since we are so rare and therefore not the "norm"
I am a Perspective but I am also high in Exploitative too because growing up my culture was very creative You creativity to bridge the gap between both, but being this creativevyou can trigger people around you.
Is it weird that I’m a confirmed INFJ but absolutely suck at looking for patterns? Like that leaves something for me to desire. Main reason why I’m an intuitive is because instead of patterns, I just have an extremely abstract imagination. I also don’t know how to “predict” the future via pattern recognition unlike other INFJs.
40:32 You may call me a super-weirdo, but for me these are two simultaneous processes, on two planes- one horizontal (speed of info in and out- mostly in) and one vertical (depth, a much, much slower pace).
Imagine two pyramids one on top of each other, with a series of parallel horizontal planes which are the interface with the world. These areas (cross sections of the pyramids) get smaller and smaller as my focus on inner processes increases.
I am very sorry for not being able to explain it better but I hope you can visualise it.
Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe I AM crazy, after all… 🙁
I have the Perspective learning style
I was excited to listen to this podcast. However, I feel more confused than before. I connect with almost all points for both sides. I am an ISTP. The perspectives is extremely close to my heart and being able to sit down with an INFJ, we feel like we finally get each other. On the other hand, I'm very close to the exploration. I make a lot of connections and have created and invented several ideas and enjoy putting those exploration ideas together. I'd love to hear your thoughts! :)
It sounds like your know Introverted Intuition is a process accessible to ISTPs. But the resonance you may feel with Extraverted Intuition may be conflating it with your Extraverted Sensing process (which can look similar when paired with Introverted Intuition).
We did a podcast on the ISTP personality type - this may give some insight into how your functions are working: personalityhacker.com/podcast-episode-0103-istp-personality-type-advice/
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Ha!!! Someone else also is pretty much in my situation
i thought of tea cup pigs...but also fair rides and drinking vessels
I’m curious where this 1-in-5 or 1-in-4 number for left-handers is coming from. I thought it was closer to 1 in 10.
Dont cognative functions work in pairs? Is so, wouldn't Ni have to have evolved with another function at the same time?
theoretically, F and T could have paired with only S for centuries before some weirdo N paired for the first time :)