"The most difficult aspect of a master class, Sebök said, is trying to get a student to an emptiness, a still point, where (s)he can truly hear what (s)he is doing. For him, music had to flow out of the pianist, and in order for that to happen there had to be a quiet center." (From T.E. Carhart's book "The Piano Shop on the Left Bank") Btw, the pianist that is playing here is Ellen Corver.
"Music had to flow out of the pianist, and in order for that to happen there had to be a quiet center". Thank you for sharing this. A quiet center. That inner stillness that must be achieved before music can truly start- I want that, and I am still struggling to achieve it. Will definitely seek Carhart's book.
Is this video for common viewing? for I didn't understand one word of it ;) But I felt that its about feeling the feeling differences and playing that feeling :)
She is 'sentimental' in a sense. Her mind is appropriate for 19th century sentimental music, but not for the Haydn's. Music of Haydn is clear, simple, and straightforward. Sebok tried hard to explain the difference. This kind of issue is very hard to explain. Let's just be *straightforward* when playing Haydn.
And thank goodness it is, in fact, difficult to explain! I just love how great artists negotiate with words, trying so hard to explain. The pedagogical beauty here lies in 'colorful' exchange, rather than being 'precise' with the teaching process.
She doesn't understand anything, too bad. Accent and rubato on the beginning of every bar, and overall the music just sounds like it's played underwater.
@pianopera Sebok is not really teaching anything! He is expressing his own point of view without talking about the elements of performance interpretation very carefully described in the numerous teaching teatises of the time which would have allowed the student to then be able to make her own interpretative choices !!
He was a guru. A real grandmaster.
What a Musician..Let's try to learn from him..
"The most difficult aspect of a master class, Sebök said, is trying to get a student to an emptiness, a still point, where (s)he can truly hear what (s)he is doing. For him, music had to flow out of the pianist, and in order for that to happen there had to be a quiet center."
(From T.E. Carhart's book "The Piano Shop on the Left Bank")
Btw, the pianist that is playing here is Ellen Corver.
"Music had to flow out of the pianist, and in order for that to happen there had to be a quiet center".
Thank you for sharing this. A quiet center. That inner stillness that must be achieved before music can truly start- I want that, and I am still struggling to achieve it.
Will definitely seek Carhart's book.
Sounds very much like Zen.
She obviously doesn't even listen or 'hear' what he says. She just stays stuck in her ways.
@@labemolmineur Gee, you're very sharp, labemolmineur.
That's a beautiful quote
Here thanks to the wonderful book, "The Piano Shop on the Left Bank." Chapter 20 describes Gyorgy Sebok and his mastery lovingly and at length
These are the conversations that are missing in SO many of the "New" pianists of today...
Thanks so much for posting this. It brought tears to my eyes. If you have any more, please post.
Thank you very much for posting. Highly interested master classes.
I love how he thinks about music. I can't tell if she's just very nervous or disagrees with him.
Is this video for common viewing? for I didn't understand one word of it ;) But I felt that its about feeling the feeling differences and playing that feeling :)
She is 'sentimental' in a sense. Her mind is appropriate for 19th century sentimental music, but not for the Haydn's. Music of Haydn is clear, simple, and straightforward.
Sebok tried hard to explain the difference.
This kind of issue is very hard to explain.
Let's just be *straightforward* when playing Haydn.
And thank goodness it is, in fact, difficult to explain! I just love how great artists negotiate with words, trying so hard to explain. The pedagogical beauty here lies in 'colorful' exchange, rather than being 'precise' with the teaching process.
@AlphaSierra5 Because I studied at the same Conservatory in 1987. At that time, she was one of the "star pupils"...
In het land der blinden, etcetera.
@@nancyvandijke3459 FYI She developed into a fine pianist and is now a piano teacher at the same Conservatory.
pianopera do you remember her name ?
What’s her name? I would like to see how she is playing nowadays. Thanks in advance 😊
@pianopera Wow. Amazing. How were you able to determine the student's identity?
@itssevenboxes Haydn Sonata No.60 Hob.XVI:50, C major
She doesn't understand anything, too bad. Accent and rubato on the beginning of every bar, and overall the music just sounds like it's played underwater.
Well she's not *that* bad
Agree...she plays the way it shouldn't be done!. Please: It is Haydn!!!
@pianopera Sebok is not really teaching anything! He is expressing his own point of view without talking about the elements of performance interpretation very carefully described in the numerous teaching teatises of the time which would have allowed the student to then be able to make her own interpretative choices !!