15:20 This music even though more modern took me back for a moment to need for speed in the late 90s. I never played using any other music than electronics.
My favorite thing about donut has been watching them grow. They've finally got the means to do fun things like High-low and Money Pit. I'm stoked for Donut! They're living the dream! Thanks guys
I had a 2016 Hyundai Sonata and live in Iowa on a gravel road. I put some BFG KO2’s on the stock 16 inch wheels. Threw off the speedometer by 3.7 mph but the performance on gravel and through the snow was fantastic. Left everything stock and cleared the inner wheel well like they were made for it. Since then I got an ND Miata and continue to love life. Thanks for the content and keep rockin!
I like how donut is starting to feel a bit more top Gear, the whole handing over a sheet of data thing really made me wonder just how entertaining it would be to watch these guys get given small budgets and have to take their cars across country just like the top Gear guys used to do until the good ones went and made their own show and now top Gear sucks cuz they can never recreate that magic they had with those 3 dudes and I think donut has the potential to do something new and possibly just as good? I've literally never driven a car in my life I just like the presenters on this channel
The Donut boys would be too nice to each other, I'd say Jason Cammisa and the ISSIMI camera crew feel more like Top Gear, although they're massive car nerds.
I think that the truck tire in the case of a daily driver/weekend rally owner is going to ultimately offer the best experience. It's unlikely to be the fastest tire due to weight of the construction but you are less likely to end your weekend early because you blew a tire and need to try and get a replacement in time to go to work on Monday.
If you guys need a set of great rally tires use Demon Tweaks in the UK. They are a rally tire provider and arent expensive. Dedicated rally tires are the single greatest upgrade ive made to my rally car. Id start with a set of medium compound and move from there. Good luck Donut!
I love how you guys changed tires for every test instead of doing all the tests on each tire then reviewing the numbers so you would only have to swap them all once.
A pro tip for beginner rally drivers, put in tubes in tires. There is a big chance you will bend the wheels hitting hard rocks, trees etc. Old school tubes in tires will let you finish the race at least and the tire wont go off the rim so easily. Its It's a cheap, kinda oldschool way, but it works
Just sayin, yall made a new Money Pit for a style of car that i want to build for a living. Yall are really helpin a man see his potential but also yallbare feeding my dream. Thank you guy one love
What song is that in the background of the laps, it is pretty chill and I like the rally callouts in it. Edit: They are not rally callouts and are arrival times as pointed out by @cmtlr FYI: Found the song. Deep Into London by Bastien Slice.
@@acethepanther2153 well ok but if you don’t want to wait for a video that may or may not come out, Chrisfix did a video on installing an e-brake These guys skipped over the roll cage and sparco seats maybe they’ll skip over the e-brake
Yeah, like Salty But Sain is saying, it's a whole order of magnitude harder. Instead of a quick unbolt the old tires bolt on the new tires, it requires mounting and balancing the new tires which definitely has to be performed in a shop.
I've never had a problem with lug bolts, if the center bore is correct you can just stick the wheel onto the hub and install the lug bolts.. but to each their own I suppose
Hydro e brake is the way to go after you release the roll cage, steering wheel, and seats video. Although I expect all those to be one video since they’ve all already been done on either money pit or high low on different cars. I’m super excited though. See who’s video is better yours or cris fix...
ngl i miss the money pit episodes at the old driveway i know it prolly was difficult due to you know humans and neighbours and stuff but it gave the show character. regardless i still love this show to bits love u money pit crew
I prefer falken for that if you couldn't get the atw threes I would have recommended just the 80 trails they make them in a lot of smaller sizes and they're still pretty decent all terrains
When you work on enough German cars you get used to mounting studless. I find it easier than studded specially on heavier wheel combos. They do make a hanging/alignment "stud" you can put in sort of like a clutch aligment tool. Ive never really needed though.
If you had purchased a hard compound high performance snow tire like Dunlop Winter Sport 4Ds, they wouldn't break down like that. I would run them year round "spiritedly" in Alaska and participate in amateur rally events in a Subaru WRX and would get 3 years of use on them with minimal wear.
I feel like you really shorted the truck tires. A closed-shoulder highway-style tread doesn't seem ideal for rally. I would have gone with an AT, like Cooper Discoverers or Hankook Dynapros. I actually went with Dynapro MTs on mine, as our tracks tend to be either sandy black dirt or clay, & often have mud holes.
Yokohama's are awesome performance and handling in my opinion. I could Drift my 200sx Turbo like it was on rails if that makes any sense. (I felt in complete control all through slides)
I honestly would have thought that a set of all-terrains would have been on there like a set of Goodyear wranglers or something along those lines.. though the sidewall hight, track width, and rim diameters might be more of an issue
But times aside, how did the tires feel doing the laps? Notice any grip difference or any difference at all? That's some important info you guys left out.
i think the tire pressures might have a lot to do with that stopping distance because the different sizes will make the tire sidewall roll over and flex much differently. maybe do an episode playing with optimal offroad tire pressures? also i think the slightly damp dirt on course will give you an advantage over the previous video as less dirt moves around while you drive and its not slick mud. the truck tire will be best mainly because of sidewall thickness. I've blown holes in a few sidewalls in my subaru while sliding around hairpins. Any big rocks when ur doing that will just go right through with all season car tires
I hate studs so much. I took off my exhaust headers to wrap them and some of the studs came out. I had to drill out one of them and tap the hole larger to put in bolts.
Snow tires are terrible on gravel. They are way too soft for it and they pick up rocks. Those small cuts in them, meant to increase grip on ice and snow make it so that grip on other surfaces is pretty bad compared to a normal tire. And since I've only used winter tires in winter climate +10°c to -20°c, I can only imagine how bad they would feel in the summer. Would be like driving on a sponge. Also, they are way too wide for rally racing. At least in the front. 205 would work at the back but the front should really have 175-185. So in the end, if you want to go with a non-rally tire, an all-season tire would be best. Made to work in all conditions/climates but still meant to have grip in slippery conditions.
Great video as always and seeing the difference in each tire will be greatly beneficial to the direction of the rest of the series. Totally unrelated questions though about things that happened to catch my attention in the video. 1.) Are you just going to install a roll cage and not give us an entire episode on that??? 2.) The red Tacoma that delivered the tires, could that be a contender for hi low season 2? If so, I'm so ready for it!
i don’t remember an episode on a quick release wheel, sparco seats, and a full roll cage
I know!!!! It looks so sick
Faaaaaaacts
Exactly what I was going to say
Yeah what, they must've recorded more episodes before this one
Same man
“Looks like I just gotta massage the fender liner...” Next scene he has a freaking roll cage and spacro seats hahaha
spacro
Sparco
spacro
Spacro
spacro
15:20 This music even though more modern took me back for a moment to need for speed in the late 90s. I never played using any other music than electronics.
music is ripping. i hate it when im not the title or no way to get hands on it.
@@pinkpanther8427 Deep Into London - Bastien Slice
Money pit next wednesday: "Is installing a hydraulic e-brake worth it??"
Definitely! That's exactly what I was thinking for next episode
This needs to be pinned lol
I thought of when ChrisFix did that for his Drift-stang. Probably would help this rally car a lot.
Thats exactly what I came to to the comment section to say.
@@devonwyman9425 doubting they would. notice how they have a roll cage seats steering wheel without an episode
My favorite thing about donut has been watching them grow. They've finally got the means to do fun things like High-low and Money Pit. I'm stoked for Donut! They're living the dream! Thanks guys
13:25 ahh yes, the infamous brake light that never works
I'm so happy at this outcome. I've always noticed the snows pulling way better on dirt/ gravel than any all season.
We need a stocky of the money pit miata eventually!
Please
This man gets it
With actual pop up up and down headlights
No thanks
I think for the truck tire, you should have gone for an A/T with a slightly aggressive sidewall. Loving these episodes!
BFG KO2's for that mall-terain traction😁
Lol Im sure its hard find truck tires for that wheel. At least without completely breaking the bank.
Yea those looked like the cargo tires and not necessarily truck tires.
I would agree. KO2, Duratracs, Wildpeak AT3w, would all work great
@@michaelkowalski8599 Toyo open country at2
I've been noticing that Donut doesn't put a progress bar when it comes to their own ads... that's some genius marketing right there
I love this series so much!!! But when is hi low coming out
Agreed
I had a 2016 Hyundai Sonata and live in Iowa on a gravel road. I put some BFG KO2’s on the stock 16 inch wheels. Threw off the speedometer by 3.7 mph but the performance on gravel and through the snow was fantastic. Left everything stock and cleared the inner wheel well like they were made for it. Since then I got an ND Miata and continue to love life. Thanks for the content and keep rockin!
I like how donut is starting to feel a bit more top Gear, the whole handing over a sheet of data thing really made me wonder just how entertaining it would be to watch these guys get given small budgets and have to take their cars across country just like the top Gear guys used to do until the good ones went and made their own show and now top Gear sucks cuz they can never recreate that magic they had with those 3 dudes and I think donut has the potential to do something new and possibly just as good? I've literally never driven a car in my life I just like the presenters on this channel
PSA. I passed out reciting this run on sentence in one breath. 0/10 would not try again
@@jonathanlunger2775 made me friggin lightheaded
The Donut boys would be too nice to each other, I'd say Jason Cammisa and the ISSIMI camera crew feel more like Top Gear, although they're massive car nerds.
Go watch Car Trek on youtube
Check out the Gears and Gasoline roadtrips
When did they put a rollcage, racing seats, and a quick release steering wheel?
They gonna release those eps soon
I think that the truck tire in the case of a daily driver/weekend rally owner is going to ultimately offer the best experience. It's unlikely to be the fastest tire due to weight of the construction but you are less likely to end your weekend early because you blew a tire and need to try and get a replacement in time to go to work on Monday.
If you guys need a set of great rally tires use Demon Tweaks in the UK. They are a rally tire provider and arent expensive. Dedicated rally tires are the single greatest upgrade ive made to my rally car. Id start with a set of medium compound and move from there. Good luck Donut!
Those viking contact 7 tires kick ass on the ice and snow. I went last winter with those in my awd golf. In finland.
I fucking love the way donut does ads. So easy to skip that shit and they still get their money :D
I love how you guys changed tires for every test instead of doing all the tests on each tire then reviewing the numbers so you would only have to swap them all once.
Did they?
Y'all should host a rallycross event at your "track"
1:50 that Tacoma was beautiful, it was in dang mint condition
ideed
Wow. So clean, looks straight from the factory
they hinted they were going to use Tacomas for the next HiLow... that might be one of them
A pro tip for beginner rally drivers, put in tubes in tires. There is a big chance you will bend the wheels hitting hard rocks, trees etc. Old school tubes in tires will let you finish the race at least and the tire wont go off the rim so easily. Its It's a cheap, kinda oldschool way, but it works
Just sayin, yall made a new Money Pit for a style of car that i want to build for a living. Yall are really helpin a man see his potential but also yallbare feeding my dream. Thank you guy one love
I love how you can see the dust fly out from where the shifter is 🤣
17:23 Nice drone shots! Who did the drone piloting?
What song is that in the background of the laps, it is pretty chill and I like the rally callouts in it.
Edit: They are not rally callouts and are arrival times as pointed out by @cmtlr
FYI: Found the song.
Deep Into London by Bastien Slice.
i was wondering the same thing
They're not rally callouts, it's train times from England
@@cmtlr you are correct, I was just wanting to hear that and want able to hear it clearly enough. Thank you!
Found the song.
Deep Into London by Bastien Slice. 👍🏻
THANK YOU
16:07 sounds like somebody needs a new eBrake handle next episode maybe
Chrisfix did that for his drift stang
@@knndyskful do i look like i wanna wach him no i wanna see these people do it
@@acethepanther2153 well ok but if you don’t want to wait for a video that may or may not come out, Chrisfix did a video on installing an e-brake
These guys skipped over the roll cage and sparco seats maybe they’ll skip over the e-brake
I have to say that the plumes of dust coming up through your shifter hole are hilarious.
That must be a lot of fun sliding around whole day testing different tires . Who did the cage , it looks really good.
I love so much that they market themselves more so for people who wanna work on cars, and not “WHATS THE FASTEST AND COOLEST?!?!” It’s nice.
that was a sick golf transition 0:26
When did the roll cage, sparco seats, and a quick release steering wheel get there😂😂
What I have learned alot of parts take seconds off which is a big improvement especially in rally every second counts.
The team during editing:
"Why did we swap wheels for each test, and not do all the test with one set..."
It’s faster to swap the whole wheel than just the tire, and the tires were different sizes, they wouldn’t all fit on the one set of wheels.
@@saltybutsain6348 Haha, I didn't realize it could've been done even worse!
Yeah, like Salty But Sain is saying, it's a whole order of magnitude harder. Instead of a quick unbolt the old tires bolt on the new tires, it requires mounting and balancing the new tires which definitely has to be performed in a shop.
@@saltybutsain6348 I don’t think you understand what was being said
@@wontonii232 not what was meant
I've never had a problem with lug bolts, if the center bore is correct you can just stick the wheel onto the hub and install the lug bolts.. but to each their own I suppose
i want to back the Stocky and get one for my desk but not being able to ship outside of US killed my heart ahah. :(
Cinamatically stepping up the game!!! Great episode as aways 👏
I went crazy it when they started playing .....Bastien Slice - Deep Into London.... in the backgrounnd
when did y’all get bucket seats, steering wheel and roll cage?
Hydro e brake is the way to go after you release the roll cage, steering wheel, and seats video. Although I expect all those to be one video since they’ve all already been done on either money pit or high low on different cars. I’m super excited though. See who’s video is better yours or cris fix...
Everyone: The wheel is hitting the fender liner. Let's take it out completely.
Zach: I'm gonna hit it with a heat gun.
Yup, would’ve ripped that thing out
ngl i miss the money pit episodes at the old driveway i know it prolly was difficult due to you know humans and neighbours and stuff but it gave the show character. regardless i still love this show to bits love u money pit crew
The cinematography is out of this desert
The original all season tire is probably the best of the lot.
Half worn and still putting in good numbers.
I think this is turned into my favorite donut series... Not hating on the other content just nice to have %100 car content in the mix.
Surprised tire companies didn’t sponsor you guys. Happy to see real life comparisons though
How much did each wheel weigh? Good info to know here. Especially on that low power motor.
The ronals with neochrome are insane beautiful
the humor on this channel is gold
Loki and Money Pit in one day!!! Let’s go Wednesday!
That drone footage is amazing
Should have tried the Michelin Cross Climate 2’s
you guys should launch a Project D (for Donut obviously) kind of thing and build a racing team, I would love to see that kind of content
That ain't a truck tire, I run 37" M/T baja claw on my F250 lol.
Btw Zach you have a good way for teaching people, I love the money pit series
Michelin Latitude Cross work really well and wear great.
Yoko AVID Ascend are what i roll on and i dont wanna change.
First snow tire mounted wrong side- tred pattern is directional
I prefer falken for that if you couldn't get the atw threes I would have recommended just the 80 trails they make them in a lot of smaller sizes and they're still pretty decent all terrains
Day 35 of asking donut media to do a up to speed on the oil crisis
Every episode is an up to speed on the oil crisis. Lol
The drone shots are nicely done!
When you work on enough German cars you get used to mounting studless. I find it easier than studded specially on heavier wheel combos. They do make a hanging/alignment "stud" you can put in sort of like a clutch aligment tool. Ive never really needed though.
"I want to be a little budgety about this" *buys three sets of tires*
Good as usual. But all the camera work and drone footage is done very well! Cool!!!
If you had purchased a hard compound high performance snow tire like Dunlop Winter Sport 4Ds, they wouldn't break down like that. I would run them year round "spiritedly" in Alaska and participate in amateur rally events in a Subaru WRX and would get 3 years of use on them with minimal wear.
I feel like you really shorted the truck tires. A closed-shoulder highway-style tread doesn't seem ideal for rally. I would have gone with an AT, like Cooper Discoverers or Hankook Dynapros. I actually went with Dynapro MTs on mine, as our tracks tend to be either sandy black dirt or clay, & often have mud holes.
This video would have been a banger middle of the winter.
Yokohama's are awesome performance and handling in my opinion. I could Drift my 200sx Turbo like it was on rails if that makes any sense. (I felt in complete control all through slides)
Tell us more about that cage!! Sick build
Make the e break the same height ad the gear shift makes it easier
Pls more money pit to build this cool looking E36
Get a rear differential lock with an handbreak leaver ken block style
When you test the clearence of the vikings contact the tred is inverted. They are uni directionnal tires.
I love the Acsend gt. They are awesome tires for normal usage (or slightly aggressive). They have awesome grip on wet roads.
Cracking production, hosting content and music on this show. Really enjoying it!
Zack Jobe you should have looked at Michelin crossclimate one or two very aggressive car tire it's an all-weather Tire
I honestly would have thought that a set of all-terrains would have been on there like a set of Goodyear wranglers or something along those lines.. though the sidewall hight, track width, and rim diameters might be more of an issue
i see you're getting a head start on next years gambler
Disappointed you didn’t do a set of all terrains like a BFG KO2 or a Toyo open country etc… would be real curious to see how those do
But times aside, how did the tires feel doing the laps? Notice any grip difference or any difference at all? That's some important info you guys left out.
hey I saw that first gen tacoma.... you guys should build one!
FYI... BMW wheel bolt pattern is same as G.M. or Chevy. Since BMW rims are expensive
i think the tire pressures might have a lot to do with that stopping distance because the different sizes will make the tire sidewall roll over and flex much differently. maybe do an episode playing with optimal offroad tire pressures?
also i think the slightly damp dirt on course will give you an advantage over the previous video as less dirt moves around while you drive and its not slick mud.
the truck tire will be best mainly because of sidewall thickness. I've blown holes in a few sidewalls in my subaru while sliding around hairpins. Any big rocks when ur doing that will just go right through with all season car tires
I never get TIREd of watching these
Roll-cage + bucket seats + quick release drift steering.. are these episodes only available on donut underground?
we need a bomb ass donut rally livery on that thing
YOKOHAMAS KILLING THE GAME. bought 5 allseason tires for 650$, Pepboys install&alignment +150$
Best CAR PURCHASE EVER
I love the roll cage through the dash! Looks sick
bro your editor was on some molly! lol that was good shit
but what is that piece of metal going through the skirt into your frame so you can jack up the entire half of the car? That's awesome!
I hate studs so much. I took off my exhaust headers to wrap them and some of the studs came out. I had to drill out one of them and tap the hole larger to put in bolts.
I'd love to get a stocky however not shipping outside the US is a limiting factor T.T
Wanna buy one for you, one for me and I'll mail it out to you?
I think y’all should bolt the original wheel & tire setup from the bimmer on Jeremiah’s catfish camaro and let him run around lol
Final vid of this series needs to be a custom rally wide body 😎😎
Yeah a tire set up is important but maybe if it was AWD it wouldn't be as critical still love you zakk
Snow tires are terrible on gravel. They are way too soft for it and they pick up rocks. Those small cuts in them, meant to increase grip on ice and snow make it so that grip on other surfaces is pretty bad compared to a normal tire. And since I've only used winter tires in winter climate +10°c to -20°c, I can only imagine how bad they would feel in the summer. Would be like driving on a sponge.
Also, they are way too wide for rally racing. At least in the front. 205 would work at the back but the front should really have 175-185.
So in the end, if you want to go with a non-rally tire, an all-season tire would be best. Made to work in all conditions/climates but still meant to have grip in slippery conditions.
2 and a half minutes in and I've already watched 4 commercials. I think thats it for me. I'm tappin out boys. Cya
That pit is filled with money ssssssshhhhhhheeeeessssshhhhhhhh
Great video as always and seeing the difference in each tire will be greatly beneficial to the direction of the rest of the series.
Totally unrelated questions though about things that happened to catch my attention in the video.
1.) Are you just going to install a roll cage and not give us an entire episode on that???
2.) The red Tacoma that delivered the tires, could that be a contender for hi low season 2? If so, I'm so ready for it!
I smell an e-brake conversion video comin up
What music was playing round the track? Voice over is southern rail train stops to Brighton - my commute to work!