T90 you should propose a new type of Hidden Cup tourney 2v2. Everyone would still use hero names BUT team members wouldn't know who the other player in his team was. And also no chat allowed within teams, only pings.
@@traz4038 Hear me out: Templar is Liereyy or Hera thinking they can get away with memeing on MBL during the first round since there aren't that many players that can beat them, but Admiral is one of those players who, coincidentally, bluffed being a qualifier player by pausing to ask for a re
Damn, Dash is really good at casting, I feel like I'm watching a game of League when he talks lol. He makes it sound super interesting just to drop farms lol.
Dude he made Elite War Elephantos in HC3. He gives us clues while imitating other players at the same time. But I don't think it's Viper based on the draft and plays.
@@kooroshrostami27? In hc3 he did so much to not look like theviper and that's my point. He cares about staying hidden but now he can't risk anymore to play differently.
@@mostwanted2390 That's true. He tried to imitate TaToH and other players in the early rounds and also used other civs for the maps and played intentionally more casual. He had Hera completely confused with the civ picks in the finals, I mean Hera knew it was Viper then but he expected different civs for the maps. Anyway the elite war elephant was a giveaway man that's so Viper 😂
I love dash as a cocaster, he is really good at commentary, but also does a good job at talking with t90. He picks up on his comments and lets him talk. On the other hand i feel like t90 sometimes talks over the other casters and doesnt acknowledge the points theyre making
wait i JUST tuned into the episode. is this really Riot Dash?? That's awesome! I've been waiting to see more of him in the AoE2 scene after that time he lost to T90 by losing vills to an elephant
Yeah. T90 is an age of empire personality and that’s his strength while dash has more experience as a professional caster. T90 has had to build this himself and doesn’t have the professionalism while dash worked with all of riots resources and organization
Converting ships required redemption back in the day, age of conquerors expansion, so I didn't even know that had changed as I don't play islands much.
AoE2 was one of my first 3 games (together with NFS3 and Fallout) on my very first PC. I love the game ever since. Hidden Cup 4 is the first of all Hidden Cups I've ever followed. I cannot tell you how amazing entertainment it is and what a brilliant distraction from all the virus-induced sh1thow. Thanks to you and all these amazing players!
Wow, it's crazy to find Dash here. As a huge fan of the pro scene of league of legends, finding Dash here is kinda surreal. He's huge in the scene and a true professional caster
Always love your co-casts! Gods Dash is a fantastic caster though! Where a lot of others just play off your casting talent, it's refreshing to have one on your next lever
WAIT THE DASH!? as in great hair dash!? HOly fucking cross overs batman, as a league of legends player back in S1-3 days and obviously i was playing aoe since 1997, this is a fantastic crossover! truly a time to be alive!
Ooh, a good update would be a key you can press while click dragging that excludes vills or military. Does that exist in-game? That would be a great update to help cluttered maps.
Hero names were randomly chosen by a behind the scenes guy working with t90. This person randomly assigned the names and is managing scheduling and accounts for the players.
One of the casters said that Viper is so good on water maps that he considers "Islands" to be an automatic win. 10 minutes later, there was a "Fun Fact" that said in Hidden Cup 3 HALF of Viper's losses were on "Islands". Whoops!
PLEASE can you make sure future videos don't include player names and have set video length (3h?). It will truly suck if we start watching the quarter finals and my feed is filled with HC4 FINALS: WARWULF Vs ADMIRAL or something like that. I'll know who wins the previous games. Also if the video is 1 hour long it's pretty clear that whoever wins the first two games wins the entire set. PLEASE do this, I realise it's more work but it seems insane to hype this event up so much and then not provide the games spoiler free on youtube.
It really sucks, yea. Algorithm will heavily punish the extra length at the end, and as for the player names, I thought the same thing. All you can really do is turn off notifications and try to watch all the games as they come out.
@@jessegauthier6985 Not really an option to watch them as they come out, just too much content in a short time. I'm hoping to watch a game or two every few days over the next couple of months. I was really hoping this time they'd be spoiler free but looking at the first round I'm now a bit worried. The winner will be spoiled before i even finish watching the first round at this rate :( T90 takes such care to hype us and make great content. For the sake of a title image and video length it would be much more enjoyable.
@@seajay4194 I preach alongside you brother. In all 3 hidden cup tournaments I would barely finish watching the quarterfinals before the semis and the final in my feed would ruin it. Hopefuly he'll do something for the fourth time.
I don't think Sundatja is HERA. Hera wouldnt pick Bay/Pants as home mape and ban Mongols for his opponent. He said in Preparation he will bait Mongol pickers on Bay because he can counter it. Could be Vivi, Bact or a trolling Viper
@@Robert-xn3dc I doubt it, Lierrey micro and speed seems different to that of Sunjata, he is on par with Hera or Viper in terms of speed. Sundjata's speed and micro would hint the likes of Tatoh,Yo or MBL
I dont quite understand the Portuguese pick in the last game. Harald is backed against a wall with Sundjata having two match points and he does this. Why not take the safer option with goths ? Makes no sense to me .
M'kay I'm 3 series and over 4 hours into HC4 when finally for the first time they start to explain the pick/ban stuff, most of which is pretty self explanatory except for what the crosshairs on the civ picks mean... and then they get distracted by chat just before explaining that part and never go back to explain it can someone for the love of all that's holy tell me what in the all meaning heaven the "snipes" actually do and mean???
GL's players as a whole tend to do well on water maps - I'd nearly guarantee Sundjata is not anyone from that group. That pick is a mystery for me. Harald... I didn't see that being a GL player either. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've seen them miss Bow Saw.
Have you seen all the matches? I think I've picked out the GL players and want some feedback from someone who knows more about them than I do but I don't want to spoil anything.
Maybe Harald should have built just two fattaria's, then played it straight, and then helped to drain resources, and then finally go ahead and build four more.
Harald is yellow: Viper confirmed
Harald drafted Goths: Vinchester confirmed
"Viper" and "Vinchester" both begin with Vi:
*Vivi confirmed*
can't argue with that reasoning.
That actually makes sense.
Maths
All these players combined ie Viper+Vinchester+Vivi= Our lord, Our saviour, The princess ie Lord Daut confirmed?
AOE logic ftw
Dash's laugh at 1:19:49 is exactly like the 11 taunt.
UNCANNY
Hey T90 it would be great if you could add the chat voting on the players identity to the end of these uploads. Keep up the good stuff.
We need more of Dash in AOE2 tbh. He is super great ;)
T90 you should propose a new type of Hidden Cup tourney 2v2. Everyone would still use hero names BUT team members wouldn't know who the other player in his team was.
And also no chat allowed within teams, only pings.
That's a rlly cool idea actually
That'd be so cool!!
Gotta love Harald!
Great casting as always. I‘m really impressed by Dash‘s knowledge about both the game and the pros.
Yes, today I learned that you need redemption for ships
@@chrisvanschothorst8075 haha you don't,they corrected it after a minute or 2
@@nyob4938 it was /s
Two appearances down and Mudlfow is quickly becoming one of my new faves.
A really fun map to watch but I don't think I would ever want to play it - too chaotic.
sundjata plays amazingly, super aggressive, gets housed. MBL confirmed
Who is Templar then 11
Templar was definitely MBL...
@@traz4038 Hear me out: Templar is Liereyy or Hera thinking they can get away with memeing on MBL during the first round since there aren't that many players that can beat them, but Admiral is one of those players who, coincidentally, bluffed being a qualifier player by pausing to ask for a re
Viper gets housed like every game too though.
Really like Dash's commentating, complements t90 really well
Finally I realize why the voice seems familiar...Dash as in *the* Dash. Nice!
Damn, Dash is really good at casting, I feel like I'm watching a game of League when he talks lol. He makes it sound super interesting just to drop farms lol.
I love riotdash's casting.
I'm honestly think Viper wouldn't pick yellow cuz he's got the 'always yellow' mod anyway.
I don't think he's gonna give us that clue for free.
Dude he made Elite War Elephantos in HC3. He gives us clues while imitating other players at the same time. But I don't think it's Viper based on the draft and plays.
@@kooroshrostami27? In hc3 he did so much to not look like theviper and that's my point. He cares about staying hidden but now he can't risk anymore to play differently.
@@mostwanted2390 That's true. He tried to imitate TaToH and other players in the early rounds and also used other civs for the maps and played intentionally more casual. He had Hera completely confused with the civ picks in the finals, I mean Hera knew it was Viper then but he expected different civs for the maps. Anyway the elite war elephant was a giveaway man that's so Viper 😂
@@kooroshrostami27 korosh? Rostami? It seems you own one of those Elephant bois?
@@dogeofgreatness2222 no but my buddy Dariush owns an army of them chonkers.
I love dash as a cocaster, he is really good at commentary, but also does a good job at talking with t90. He picks up on his comments and lets him talk. On the other hand i feel like t90 sometimes talks over the other casters and doesnt acknowledge the points theyre making
wait i JUST tuned into the episode. is this really Riot Dash?? That's awesome! I've been waiting to see more of him in the AoE2 scene after that time he lost to T90 by losing vills to an elephant
Yeah. T90 is an age of empire personality and that’s his strength while dash has more experience as a professional caster. T90 has had to build this himself and doesn’t have the professionalism while dash worked with all of riots resources and organization
T90 is more of a streamer, Dash is a professional caster for Riot Games. Can't really compare.
@@sarscov9854 yeah i think t90 can learn a lot from dash
I mean T90 was the co-caster, it makes more sense for dash to be a bit better lol
Converting ships required redemption back in the day, age of conquerors expansion, so I didn't even know that had changed as I don't play islands much.
AoE2 was one of my first 3 games (together with NFS3 and Fallout) on my very first PC. I love the game ever since. Hidden Cup 4 is the first of all Hidden Cups I've ever followed. I cannot tell you how amazing entertainment it is and what a brilliant distraction from all the virus-induced sh1thow. Thanks to you and all these amazing players!
Wow, it's crazy to find Dash here. As a huge fan of the pro scene of league of legends, finding Dash here is kinda surreal. He's huge in the scene and a true professional caster
3:45 that freaking deer waited through the entire scout fight to finish being lured!
I'm really impressed with Dash's knowledge of the game and pro player styles, even guessing Mr. Yo as Sundjata
wasn't expecting dash of all people but the boi killed it with the casting
Always love your co-casts! Gods Dash is a fantastic caster though! Where a lot of others just play off your casting talent, it's refreshing to have one on your next lever
Love this Dash guy as a commentator !!
Dash has a GREAT casting voice!!
WAIT THE DASH!? as in great hair dash!? HOly fucking cross overs batman, as a league of legends player back in S1-3 days and obviously i was playing aoe since 1997, this is a fantastic crossover! truly a time to be alive!
I love the hidden cup format.
I love watching water games with landing xD
Great CO cast
18:11 - There is a priest doing the moon walk lmao, bottom left.
Ooh, a good update would be a key you can press while click dragging that excludes vills or military. Does that exist in-game? That would be a great update to help cluttered maps.
Hold Alt (excludes military) ;)
@@dom8286
Kickass! Thanks!
Were the hero names randomly chosen or did the players choose from a list? Or how was this done?
Hero names were randomly chosen by a behind the scenes guy working with t90. This person randomly assigned the names and is managing scheduling and accounts for the players.
Who is the co-caster? Maybe mention him in description next time?
Dash from Riot games. Does league of legends casting.
Great Set
That last game sure was entertaining! My man who I picked to win moves on! Not lllooking like the best but llooking good stilll.
Sunjata is Mr Yo. Let us see.
Goddamn it man i'm a video behind! Give me time to finish one before you post the next one! I have only so much hype before I burst!
Vinchester used a similar all-in feitoria strat against Viper less than a month ago. I'm liking Vinch for Harald.
1:50:33
Being wrong with conviction? He was wrong with redemption earlier, too. 11
39:09 Why are there ruins of three buildings on that small island?
jk, I know why xD xD xD
OMG 😲😲😲
Thank You!! Hahahahaha XD
Damn, love the other caster, makes me feel like I'm watching a baseball game.
Dash usually casts League
One of the casters said that Viper is so good on water maps that he considers "Islands" to be an automatic win. 10 minutes later, there was a "Fun Fact" that said in Hidden Cup 3 HALF of Viper's losses were on "Islands". Whoops!
That was one game
So far the hero showdown is on point!!
Thougt of the Liar as well when I saw Malay 11
I like Vinch. Hope he’s not dead...
What a morbid comment on this lighthearted video! I‘d assume he‘s just fine.
@@btarczy5067 I heard he died actually
t90 and dash are my favorite caster pair....
Resume @ 1:16:32
3 months into watching this channel and I still don't know if he's saying fish&chips or I'm heating things 😂
are you heating fish and chips?
Sundjata is hera .. yellow is jordan cuz jordan LUVVVS islands and its the only map he won on
damn Nilis voice has changed
PLEASE can you make sure future videos don't include player names and have set video length (3h?).
It will truly suck if we start watching the quarter finals and my feed is filled with HC4 FINALS: WARWULF Vs ADMIRAL or something like that. I'll know who wins the previous games.
Also if the video is 1 hour long it's pretty clear that whoever wins the first two games wins the entire set.
PLEASE do this, I realise it's more work but it seems insane to hype this event up so much and then not provide the games spoiler free on youtube.
It really sucks, yea. Algorithm will heavily punish the extra length at the end, and as for the player names, I thought the same thing.
All you can really do is turn off notifications and try to watch all the games as they come out.
@@jessegauthier6985 Not really an option to watch them as they come out, just too much content in a short time. I'm hoping to watch a game or two every few days over the next couple of months. I was really hoping this time they'd be spoiler free but looking at the first round I'm now a bit worried.
The winner will be spoiled before i even finish watching the first round at this rate :(
T90 takes such care to hype us and make great content. For the sake of a title image and video length it would be much more enjoyable.
@@seajay4194 I reckon it'd be better to put them all in one long video, or at least a few.
@@seajay4194 I preach alongside you brother. In all 3 hidden cup tournaments I would barely finish watching the quarterfinals before the semis and the final in my feed would ruin it. Hopefuly he'll do something for the fourth time.
@@dogeofgreatness2222 Just remember to turn off notifications. It's not a perfect solution, but it helps.
finally! HC4 let's gooo!
I don't think Sundatja is HERA.
Hera wouldnt pick Bay/Pants as home mape and ban Mongols for his opponent. He said in Preparation he will bait Mongol pickers on Bay because he can counter it.
Could be Vivi, Bact or a trolling Viper
Hera said he would front dock send it, it didn't make alot of sense to back dock celts in my opinion. Not heras style
true maybe it was liereey?
@@toebinho27 I don't know Lierys style well enough tbh, what do you think?
@@Robert-xn3dc I doubt it, Lierrey micro and speed seems different to that of Sunjata, he is on par with Hera or Viper in terms of speed. Sundjata's speed and micro would hint the likes of Tatoh,Yo or MBL
@@Robert-xn3dc what if hera actually tricked us
Dash? What are you doing over on aoe 2?
16:18 lol what happened here, for a moment I thought there was a third person speaking
Mr. Yo is a BEAST
Who was the other caster?
I think vinchester for harald, and maybe hera? for sundjata
Oh I actually really miss Nili co casting. I was really enjoying his comments, banter, and voice.
I thought nili was indian for the longest time based on his voice, im bad at recognizing accents I guess....
viper is vinchester confirmed
If Viper hears this “4 players do not use TC to weaken boar” he will immediately stop doing it in his games...
No, he would just skip doing it once every 3-4 games. That's all he'd have to do to cause confusion.
More Dash co-casts please!!
Rip Vinch :(
You should add some time on the end of these to avoid spoilers. If it's 2-1 and a game starts with 20 minutes left in the video, we know who won.
You can get a browser extension for this. T90 has previously explained he does not do it because it messes up the TH-cam algorithms.
I dont quite understand the Portuguese pick in the last game. Harald is backed against a wall with Sundjata having two match points and he does this. Why not take the safer option with goths ? Makes no sense to me .
The other announcer sounds like Dash from riot lol
Hidden Cup!
Harald - Vinchester
Sundjata - ACCM?
Dash is a commentator from League of Legend esport right?
Wait is one of the commentator is from LOL esports?
So till now its playing like hero tournament. So according to that Sunjata should win
Please stop saying Ivalyo. It's IVAYLO
M'kay I'm 3 series and over 4 hours into HC4 when finally for the first time they start to explain the pick/ban stuff, most of which is pretty self explanatory except for what the crosshairs on the civ picks mean... and then they get distracted by chat just before explaining that part and never go back to explain it can someone for the love of all that's holy tell me what in the all meaning heaven the "snipes" actually do and mean???
Sundjata is Yo.
Sundjata -> Daut, MbL, Yo Harald -> Vinch, Nicov, Lierey
Sundjata=Yo, 100% confirmed.
hmm...seems to me like game 2 and 3 were all new players.
Awesome!!!!!
sundjata is viper!
Please, just not Vinch for yellow, please not Vinch
front hand side 11
Mr. Yo vs Vincester
Price pool should have been capped at $69420
just saying
Why
Spoiler:
No Pants.
Blue is hera.
Jordan vs Barles
And the Scandinavians breathe a sigh of relief.
It would at least take you half a year of german language class to pronunciate Harald correctly T90 XD
Harald was norweigan
GL's players as a whole tend to do well on water maps - I'd nearly guarantee Sundjata is not anyone from that group. That pick is a mystery for me.
Harald... I didn't see that being a GL player either. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've seen them miss Bow Saw.
Have you seen all the matches? I think I've picked out the GL players and want some feedback from someone who knows more about them than I do but I don't want to spoil anything.
Any one else think that dash kinda talk too much?
Maybe Harald should have built just two fattaria's, then played it straight, and then helped to drain resources, and then finally go ahead and build four more.
yo vs daut
I hope Harald wasn't Vinchester....
99% it was... unfortunately...
Thanks for spoiling the outcome 🙄 your comment was highlighted so really no way to avoid it
Too late. Watching the rerun on Twitch.
Hearing Americans pronounce Harald made me cringe so hard, because it is so wroooooong
69 likes. Nice!
Harald is viper
Doubt it, his draft picks are a lot stronger than that and I don’t think he’d do an all in like that for the last game
Doubt it tbh.
He is vinch
@@kooroshrostami27 I think vivi is pope leo 🤔
@@Augustus_Imperator yee Leo hat Vivi vibes, I'm torn. Let's just say Sunjata is an Islands hater, most likely Asian 😅
T90 laughing about civ picks, Me: what? is it portugese vs malay? get lost! ...
Turns out to be portugese vs malay
She’s a dash realise he is a co-caster? He talks too much. Kinda annoys me to be honest
I HATE THIS FUCKING SCROLLBAR SO MUCH
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