It's 2022 as I write this and I can't help but think that this video was in the good old days when it all started to unravel. Now we have surpassed five of the nine planetary boundaries, an addition of two more in only 12 additional years. It's hard to not think we are doomed. I try to keep an open mind about how we could turn it all around at the last second, but I don't believe we will. We are not making the kind of sacrifices necessary, and I don't think we will make those sacrifices until it is far too late (if it isn't already). We are living in the end of days for our civilization.
So you're vegan, right? You mention making sacrifices, and sacrificing taste pleasure to minimise your impact on the environment is a pretty obvious sacrifice, yes?
@@Danycuraj No I do not troll. I am not interested in overpopulation the planet like most people are. I do not even understand the drive to overpopulate the planet by popping them out. It must be something one is born with. Not everyone has babies on their brains 24/7. Some of us, like me, care about those already alive more than creating copies of ourselves. In fact, having a kid is an almost sickening idea to me, but I do understand many apparently feel something different than I do.
A lot of things are changing in the right direction too. For example, it seems we are pretty close to have Nuclear Fusion energy (by 2024), if that happens, that would add the best energy source ever inveted by human kind!!! (yes, it's a lot better than nuclear fision). Investment in the green transition is growing fast, solar panels tecnology is also founding new better ways, and battery too (diferent options reduce the preasure on resources and production chain). ♻🌱
What a wonderful speech. No hyperbole, no hard-sell, what more do you want than pictures of the horrendous changes that are happening? How much more motivation than we need to act now? The "leave things alone and they will be fine" mentality hasn't worked for 20+ years. Why do people think it would work now? I hope people like Johan will continue to bring innovations to people everywhere!
we're gonna make big wall around environment. it's gonna be huge i am telling you this , it's gonna be huge and we are gonna make earth pay for it. i guarantee you that.
It is May 2021 - (11 years after the presentation) - just stopping by to see how we doin’... No changes yet?, hmmm ... you may not be able to stop by again in 2031 to read this thread... just because we did notin’. Act NOW!
It's funny how he talks about changing paradigms and social change, but he failed to mention the one thing that might do most of the things needed to happen: changing the world's economic model and stop sacrifying ourselves and the planet for profit... 11 years after and we haven't reach the turning point yet.
Very very important talk! It's so many variables people dont think of when it comes to system changes. If we continue like we do, endlessly consuming and creating masses of waste without thinking about stability, sustainablity and efficency: the ecosystems resilience will shut down completely. Hence one of the many reasons my support the Venus project and the zeitgeist movement.
Add the Climate Vegan movement! :D Find us on Facebook. One of the most profound points that Rockström and his diagram makes is that carbon counting is not enough. We can meet carbon targets and still expire of thirst and drought.
I have read into both the Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement and would like to hear why you believe these to be attainable options for our sustainable future. I am not by any means trying to discourage said organizations, I am simply curios as to your ideas on the matter.
So basically he is saying that we have the solutions to the crisis already, but the people need to realize that we need to utilize them as fast as possible.
Technology only works when we use it efficiently. What form of energy gives the maximum return on investment when materials and energy to produce that technology is considered? Some that are considered "Green" might be the same sort of green trade off as that found between the plastic and paper bags. Back in the day paper bags were a nasty thing and we went plastic to save the forests, It turns out plastic has a worse impact than paper. We need to work the numbers to help our emotion do the correct thing.
Estoy pensando que ponen los títulos en español, para que le demos click a los videos más prontamente. Me gusta, aunque siempre habro uno con la intención de que aparezca uno hablado realmente en español. Sé que los hay, pero no tratan este tipo de temas.
We need to eat low on the food chain, reverse deforestation which will act as a carbon sink, reduce the chemical fertilizers. #ClimateVegan #ClimateHealers
And the thing about ecosystem is they are dynamic. You pull out the wrong blocks and the whole thing can fall down. Ecosystems involve everything interconnected, it's kinda like janga I guess haha.
His initial Malthusian drivel almost caused me to thumb down and ignore the rest. Fortunately he pulled it out by talking about many great and simple innovations that prove that there is more than enough for as far as we can see into the future. Quit screaming the sky is falling and just do the things that produce more and everything will be great. Hooray for abundance.
In response to his concluding statement, maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to the solutions he described in the latter part of the talk, but where does "science say" that we can "collaborate globally" around these issues? I don't think countries can actually agree to make the changes we need.
We do not think he concluded that science says so. We feel that his conclusion calls for better and more sincere collaboration between countries. If all countries realized these effects and consciously attended to these based on the peculiarity of their case, such all-round efforts would go a long way. The economics of profit, however, militates against this.
Saving environment, planet Earth and us mankind requires measurements taken on governmental level, question is how to push the government to start doing something on the matter.
help! i need to answer some questions but i’m kind of confused, english is not my first language and there are nos subtitles…. Who is the speaker? (country/ education/work/ knowledge societies) - What is the name of the time we live in and what does this name mean? - What is the period name that the speaker is proposing and what does it mean? - Define the concept of planetary boundaries. - Name each of the planetary boundaries mentioned.
Many ecologists and environmental activist told the politicians and economists the threats to us from over exploitation of the ecosystem biophere. Profit and greed dominates still.
Much of our future depends on greedy people being less greedy, violent people being less violent, and global cooperation becoming fashionable for a very long time.
@s0m3w0n2 Because it not only looks better, it's actually more comfortable to watch, especially on my high-res screen. Also not like it's a big effort to do it. I don't even own or watch TV/blu-ray, so i'm not a mediateinment junkie anyway.
@WyldOrbit Try "not ready yet, but eventually promising". We need better battery technology if we're going to use technologies, but it's exciting to think that we might be very near having affordable, workable replacements for fossil fuels.
@reapfreak So then it would stand to reason that our issue here is not that the presenter is "emotionally pandering" or spewing untrue things, but that you are in need of a basic high school science lesson to educate you as to why the continuous increase in temperature and destruction of ecosystems will affect weather and bio systems leading to the eventual deterioration of the place we live. Which is humorously the part of this that is entirely undisputed by scientists and the government.
@ijjesus I agree that communism has not existed as it was originally intended. After reading more and more about these topics, I have come to realize (in my humble opinion of course) that anarcho-communism or anarcho-sindicalism might be the "flexible" all-encompassing system that will do the job to free the world economy. People join voluntary (non-profit) associations all the time and they work.
@reapfreak If you're really so selfish that you need something to affect you or humanity before you consider it a "problem" and the death of these life forms alone doesn't make it one then let me make it clear. Without some of these life forms we cannot survive. They turn the air we breathe out back into air we breathe in. Some are our food, others are food for those that are our food. That's just the starter, others with more detailed knowledge can fill you in on the rest.
@WyldOrbit Plastic is oil, and you can't use water for fuel. You can use energy to convert water to hydrogen, and then use it later, but its very dangerous, and you still need to get your energy from somewhere else to begin with. The truth is, oil is an extremely effecient energy source (and co2 is the only byproduct), thats why we are so dependant on it.
@CRAPCANNONS Well then i must have misinterpreted your comment. But you sounded like a wise guy talking down on me and i think you underestimate most of the people here!
>95% of the next billion people will be born in Africa and Asia in the next 15 years. We have set a poor example of consumption for the developing world, and population is only a problem if they follow our lead. You are correct that education = security = smaller families, but that education should be promoting sustainable practices. Meat is not sustainable. Eating high on the food chain is massively inefficient, pollutive and devastating to our personal carbon and water footprint, and is the #1 actor of most of Rohan Rockström's planetary boundaries. The nitrogen and phosphorous cycles have been pushed into unknown territory because of the fertilization of monocultured crops grown to feed the animals we eat. Rockström says we need more forests, not less -- allow me to translate that into stopping the #1 cause of deforestation and desertification -- animal agriculture. If humans decided to eat plants all forests could be regrown as in 1800, and the carbon sequestered to 1750 levels! (google "lifestyle carbon dividend").
@HarveyMushman85 China claims to be a developing country, which is reasonable. They do do quite a bit for other countries but the amount of cock up they're capable of at home is just remarkable. So the argument goes both ways depends on how you look at it.
@mmsayre Equal money is in fact about guaranteeying everyone has good enough food -- and propper education. Equal money will stop wars -- because wars exist for control of resources - to provide the resources of the conquered territoty to the victorious. Therefore - with equal money - the resouces will be equally shared according to necessity.
@uberkakis "or at the very least, presented something original?" I agree. This is one of my favorite talks on the effects of global warming: th-cam.com/video/9MEKyJEn0Wk/w-d-xo.html
@ashleylovesdaddy Obviously we cannot create a system without money. We use what we have - we use money as the means of communication where all life is valued EQUALY -- this is the point: EQUALITY, Not money. We can use money as a means to make sure everyone has enough to LIVE. Yes - the earth's natural resources MUST belong to EVERYONE -- and not only a select few...
@apowers7 Just to clarify, you're talking about the ijjesus guy? If so I had a conversation with him on a some previous video and he doesn't understand what nonsense he is talking.
An addiction to infinite economic growth is very, very bad for ecology. It's why veganism hasn't been considered as a method to reduce the stress on all the planetary boundaries -- how does it grow the economy? It doesn't. Until we change from answering every question with "economy tho!" we will continue to kill the planet and its inhabitants. #EconomyTho #ClimateVegan #Cowspiracy #ClimateHealers
It looks like he staged it that way to put emphasis on what he was saying about abruptly falling into situations you are not prepared for. Either that or he's a cat because he landed on his feet. :-D
It's 2022 as I write this and I can't help but think that this video was in the good old days when it all started to unravel. Now we have surpassed five of the nine planetary boundaries, an addition of two more in only 12 additional years. It's hard to not think we are doomed. I try to keep an open mind about how we could turn it all around at the last second, but I don't believe we will. We are not making the kind of sacrifices necessary, and I don't think we will make those sacrifices until it is far too late (if it isn't already). We are living in the end of days for our civilization.
So you're vegan, right? You mention making sacrifices, and sacrificing taste pleasure to minimise your impact on the environment is a pretty obvious sacrifice, yes?
@@borneoorangutan No. I get to live like a king because I didn't squirt kids. All people without kids can do whatever they want.
@@domitron are you trolling?
@@Danycuraj No I do not troll. I am not interested in overpopulation the planet like most people are. I do not even understand the drive to overpopulate the planet by popping them out. It must be something one is born with. Not everyone has babies on their brains 24/7. Some of us, like me, care about those already alive more than creating copies of ourselves. In fact, having a kid is an almost sickening idea to me, but I do understand many apparently feel something different than I do.
A lot of things are changing in the right direction too. For example, it seems we are pretty close to have Nuclear Fusion energy (by 2024), if that happens, that would add the best energy source ever inveted by human kind!!! (yes, it's a lot better than nuclear fision). Investment in the green transition is growing fast, solar panels tecnology is also founding new better ways, and battery too (diferent options reduce the preasure on resources and production chain). ♻🌱
What a wonderful speech. No hyperbole, no hard-sell, what more do you want than pictures of the horrendous changes that are happening? How much more motivation than we need to act now? The "leave things alone and they will be fine" mentality hasn't worked for 20+ years. Why do people think it would work now? I hope people like Johan will continue to bring innovations to people everywhere!
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we're gonna make big wall around environment. it's gonna be huge i am telling you this , it's gonna be huge and we are gonna make earth pay for it. i guarantee you that.
TRUMP DIXIT
ieltspeople: no, we are going to pay for it. We are paying for it.
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if you only knew how right you were
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Oh how fun to see this in 2020 when progression is hard to be found :)))
Makes me glad I chose permaculture and sustainable design as a career path!
7 years later, how’s it going now?
hows it going brennan?
Yeah Brennan, how’s it going
I would like to know the actual Earth status after 11+ years of this conference. In what parameters we are better or worse now.
One of the best ones I've seen on TED.
My AP Enviornmental Science peeps, where u at???
I'm just a 9th grader taking Biology......
Seven years after this publication, the curve (5:07) is still not bent!
Eleven years after this publication, the curve (5:07) is still not bent!
@@sbrsbr4893 Fourteen years after this publication, the curve (5:07) is still not bent!
This is incredible. Gave me chills. People need to know about this.
This isn't about environment vs humans...it is about co-existence.
Prob is humans are inherently greedy...
It is May 2021 - (11 years after the presentation) - just stopping by to see how we doin’... No changes yet?, hmmm ... you may not be able to stop by again in 2031 to read this thread... just because we did notin’.
Act NOW!
The large inflated globe really helped me to visualize the pressures on the planet
It's funny how he talks about changing paradigms and social change, but he failed to mention the one thing that might do most of the things needed to happen: changing the world's economic model and stop sacrifying ourselves and the planet for profit... 11 years after and we haven't reach the turning point yet.
Communism? Technocracy? Basically a dictatorship to "save" the planet?
Very very important talk! It's so many variables people dont think of when it comes to system changes. If we continue like we do, endlessly consuming and creating masses of waste without thinking about stability, sustainablity and efficency: the ecosystems resilience will shut down completely.
Hence one of the many reasons my support the Venus project and the zeitgeist movement.
Add the Climate Vegan movement! :D Find us on Facebook.
One of the most profound points that Rockström and his diagram makes is that carbon counting is not enough. We can meet carbon targets and still expire of thirst and drought.
I have read into both the Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement and would like to hear why you believe these to be attainable options for our sustainable future. I am not by any means trying to discourage said organizations, I am simply curios as to your ideas on the matter.
So basically he is saying that we have the solutions to the crisis already, but the people need to realize that we need to utilize them as fast as possible.
5:50 = awesome.... right when he says "tipping over" too.
Technology only works when we use it efficiently. What form of energy gives the maximum return on investment when materials and energy to produce that technology is considered? Some that are considered "Green" might be the same sort of green trade off as that found between the plastic and paper bags. Back in the day paper bags were a nasty thing and we went plastic to save the forests, It turns out plastic has a worse impact than paper.
We need to work the numbers to help our emotion do the correct thing.
Wow, I'm so glad I knew this in 2010.. that's.. Wait, it's 2018!... all we need to do now is make that time machine.
Amazing and inspiring talk! Very funny and contradictory advertisement at the end, though ;)
Música curativa para Atraer el Éxito y la Abundancia a tu vida‚ eleva tu Espíritu y Elimina tus Bloqueos diariamente ❤❤❤️
Obrigado por compartilhar conhecimento conosco.
Raise the hand if you are from APES in CVHS, Mr.M's class
Estoy pensando que ponen los títulos en español, para que le demos click a los videos más prontamente. Me gusta, aunque siempre habro uno con la intención de que aparezca uno hablado realmente en español. Sé que los hay, pero no tratan este tipo de temas.
Habro??? Habro????????????
english wali mam ne kaam diya hai uske liye aaya hu yha pe
I'm really afraid for the loss of biodiversity. Think about it, it went from 0-60 (so to speak) faster than any other problem.
We need to eat low on the food chain, reverse deforestation which will act as a carbon sink, reduce the chemical fertilizers. #ClimateVegan #ClimateHealers
Very well said, Johan!
A bit awkward when he describes the Great Barrier Reef as a success story...
Why?
13:49
Yeah, wtf? He knows better than most people it's a doomed system. What a strange choice of success story.
Excellent presentation!
I wish TED would post more HD movies.
So basically, “We can save the planet with utopia.” Got it, thanks.
Utopia is possible
The sustainability problem inspired me to go back to school.
Great video, this really puts the situation global environmental confict on earth in a nutshell.
@28kb
I think he is from Sweden, his mother tongue is Swedish which is Germanic language as well as Arnie's German.
I can't believe this was done 12 freaking years ago! We should all be adjusting our life goals for rescuing the holocene :/
Thank you!
And the thing about ecosystem is they are dynamic. You pull out the wrong blocks and the whole thing can fall down. Ecosystems involve everything interconnected, it's kinda like janga I guess haha.
Usar??🎉
Chetana maam assignment
vlogger in the house
just to hit that 2 minute mark
I'm glad he did not hurt himself!
His initial Malthusian drivel almost caused me to thumb down and ignore the rest. Fortunately he pulled it out by talking about many great and simple innovations that prove that there is more than enough for as far as we can see into the future. Quit screaming the sky is falling and just do the things that produce more and everything will be great. Hooray for abundance.
Every bit counts. Nice talk!
In response to his concluding statement, maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to the solutions he described in the latter part of the talk, but where does "science say" that we can "collaborate globally" around these issues? I don't think countries can actually agree to make the changes we need.
We do not think he concluded that science says so. We feel that his conclusion calls for better and more sincere collaboration between countries. If all countries realized these effects and consciously attended to these based on the peculiarity of their case, such all-round efforts would go a long way. The economics of profit, however, militates against this.
watching this in 2023, its been foggy for two days straight and hasnt snowed in december. Trying hard to have faith.
Saving environment, planet Earth and us mankind requires measurements taken on governmental level, question is how to push the government to start doing something on the matter.
how about voting
Getting into the government machinery?
help! i need to answer some questions but i’m kind of confused, english is not my first language and there are nos subtitles….
Who is the speaker? (country/ education/work/ knowledge societies)
- What is the name of the time we live in and what does this name mean?
- What is the period name that the speaker is proposing and what does it mean?
- Define the concept of planetary boundaries.
- Name each of the planetary boundaries mentioned.
Many ecologists and environmental activist told the politicians and economists the threats to us from over exploitation of the ecosystem biophere. Profit and greed dominates still.
Brilliant!
Agreed great talk
Much of our future depends on greedy people being less greedy, violent people being less violent, and global cooperation becoming fashionable for a very long time.
@s0m3w0n2
Because it not only looks better, it's actually more comfortable to watch, especially on my high-res screen. Also not like it's a big effort to do it.
I don't even own or watch TV/blu-ray, so i'm not a mediateinment junkie anyway.
@WyldOrbit Try "not ready yet, but eventually promising". We need better battery technology if we're going to use technologies, but it's exciting to think that we might be very near having affordable, workable replacements for fossil fuels.
Everybody should know the fact,specially younger generation.
@reapfreak So then it would stand to reason that our issue here is not that the presenter is "emotionally pandering" or spewing untrue things, but that you are in need of a basic high school science lesson to educate you as to why the continuous increase in temperature and destruction of ecosystems will affect weather and bio systems leading to the eventual deterioration of the place we live. Which is humorously the part of this that is entirely undisputed by scientists and the government.
Well said!
Why can't I view it?
This was at 2010. We are at 2019. Where are we? Worst?
We should be careful about our impact on the planet but I think we naturally are because our well being is at stake.
All humans are irrational about these issues it's just our nature. we need to create systems around the way our brains work.
Let's make a plan, to have technical decisions, not doing propaganda.
@ijjesus
I agree that communism has not existed as it was originally intended.
After reading more and more about these topics, I have come to realize (in my humble opinion of course) that anarcho-communism or anarcho-sindicalism might be the "flexible" all-encompassing system that will do the job to free the world economy. People join voluntary (non-profit) associations all the time and they work.
And we have crossed the threshhold.
@mininow i will, but its 8 parts. doing it tommorow...
Holy crap, this comment is 10 years old.
@koren1124 If you tell people things they already know they will say you are smart. Johan Rockstrom scored a lot of points :D
Let's make it the 2020s then ... !
@reapfreak If you're really so selfish that you need something to affect you or humanity before you consider it a "problem" and the death of these life forms alone doesn't make it one then let me make it clear. Without some of these life forms we cannot survive. They turn the air we breathe out back into air we breathe in. Some are our food, others are food for those that are our food. That's just the starter, others with more detailed knowledge can fill you in on the rest.
@WyldOrbit Plastic is oil, and you can't use water for fuel. You can use energy to convert water to hydrogen, and then use it later, but its very dangerous, and you still need to get your energy from somewhere else to begin with. The truth is, oil is an extremely effecient energy source (and co2 is the only byproduct), thats why we are so dependant on it.
Ten years and we are in the exact same predicament, if not worse. How disappointing.
very inspiring!
@CRAPCANNONS
Well then i must have misinterpreted your comment. But you sounded like a wise guy talking down on me and i think you underestimate most of the people here!
@sondano He's talking impact here, not numbers.
The answer of course is education. Stats show that educated families have less children.
>95% of the next billion people will be born in Africa and Asia in the next 15 years. We have set a poor example of consumption for the developing world, and population is only a problem if they follow our lead. You are correct that education = security = smaller families, but that education should be promoting sustainable practices. Meat is not sustainable. Eating high on the food chain is massively inefficient, pollutive and devastating to our personal carbon and water footprint, and is the #1 actor of most of Rohan Rockström's planetary boundaries. The nitrogen and phosphorous cycles have been pushed into unknown territory because of the fertilization of monocultured crops grown to feed the animals we eat. Rockström says we need more forests, not less -- allow me to translate that into stopping the #1 cause of deforestation and desertification -- animal agriculture. If humans decided to eat plants all forests could be regrown as in 1800, and the carbon sequestered to 1750 levels! (google "lifestyle carbon dividend").
Ted what is boundries
La educación Formal, No formal e informal, contribuirán a evitar que se trasgraden los limites expuestos.
@HarveyMushman85
China claims to be a developing country, which is reasonable. They do do quite a bit for other countries but the amount of cock up they're capable of at home is just remarkable.
So the argument goes both ways depends on how you look at it.
@timg455 That's because apparently repeating it a 100 times isn't enough.
How is it possible that jokey stick keeps been cited!!!
Crying in silence😭
very good
Share this with family and friends 🚨🚨🚨
It's Rockström :/ please don't forget the accents if you can help it!
@mmsayre
Equal money is in fact about guaranteeying everyone has good enough food -- and propper education. Equal money will stop wars -- because wars exist for control of resources - to provide the resources of the conquered territoty to the victorious. Therefore - with equal money - the resouces will be equally shared according to necessity.
I don't see what he said new here that we haven't heard 100 times.
@sondano
thats maybe the point, we are really minor- but destroying major.
@hossboss96 But TED is about new ideas not old one's.
@uberkakis "or at the very least, presented something original?"
I agree. This is one of my favorite talks on the effects of global warming:
th-cam.com/video/9MEKyJEn0Wk/w-d-xo.html
@ashleylovesdaddy
Obviously we cannot create a system without money. We use what we have - we use money as the means of communication where all life is valued EQUALY -- this is the point: EQUALITY, Not money.
We can use money as a means to make sure everyone has enough to LIVE.
Yes - the earth's natural resources MUST belong to EVERYONE -- and not only a select few...
redundancy not optimisation!
Coming from a place of abundance of effort, rather than scarcity of effort.
@apowers7 Just to clarify, you're talking about the ijjesus guy? If so I had a conversation with him on a some previous video and he doesn't understand what nonsense he is talking.
If Garbage is Good for the Economy , does that mean the Economy is Bad for Ecology ??
An addiction to infinite economic growth is very, very bad for ecology. It's why veganism hasn't been considered as a method to reduce the stress on all the planetary boundaries -- how does it grow the economy? It doesn't. Until we change from answering every question with "economy tho!" we will continue to kill the planet and its inhabitants. #EconomyTho #ClimateVegan #Cowspiracy #ClimateHealers
Deberían poner los subtitulos en español
Ahora los tiene (automáticos pero funcionan).
When he falls 5:47 XDDDDDD
does anyone know if that was purposeful or truly accidental? He acted as if nothing happened
It looks like he staged it that way to put emphasis on what he was saying about abruptly falling into situations you are not prepared for. Either that or he's a cat because he landed on his feet. :-D
@amcnea ha ha brilliant!!
@ppnnlearning lol I was joking, but you make a very well stated point, you get a thumbs up from me =D
I think this talk is for all the politicians of the world. So get your fat hands out the treasury and start do something useful for a change!!
S I G N I F I C A N C E
Very first thing humans can do is stop wearing and manufacturing clothes with 10 years of it other positive changes will form
Those of us outside subtopics will need +4 to be comfortable 🧜♀️
@Buddhabr0t Watch Albert Bartlett's video insted, if you haven't already.
@HectorCorcin
speak for yourself!
@wearealltubes
Well you can disagree, i am fine with that. It would be nice though, if you would actually tell us why!
@OpakeArawra2
Yes, eventually.