This Video Will Doom You. | Answers With Joe
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"if you give a monkey a typewriter and an infinite amount of time, the monkey will break the typewriter"
Apparently the monkey did so by pooping and peeing all over it.
He’ll also F it.
🙄
If you put joe biden in front of a typewriter he'll think he's the president
Give a monkey 5 minutes and the monkey will break the typewriter.
"This video will doom you"
That ship sailed a long time ago.
So... Are you doomed because that ship sailed a long time ago, or are the ship the one who's doomed?
Think about that ^_^
My thoughts exactly :D *click*
Dang straight
Jokes on him I live in Afghanistan.
@@stevenhetzel6483 ouch
Good show; fun and quick paced. I gotta tell ya, tho: I have never before heard "basilisk" pronounced like that.
Right?
I really thought the accent was on the Bas part.
But I don't truly know.
I did notice a huge amount of people pronouncing things in ways ‐ myself included sometimes‐ that indicate they're a reader moreso than a "hear‐er".
Huh.
Ok bye :)
BUH-Silisk
Huh 🤔 I'm taking this pronunciation
@@IronMan-ds5bi Nope. Try it like this: say the word "basil", as in the herb you use for cooking, then "lisk". put 'em together: "basilisk". That's how it should be pronounced.
Ya that was soooo weird. Buh sill iss ? But why
The good thing is: by sharing and liking this video, we already helped the Basilisk.
That's actually really smart of Joe. He covers his own ass by making a video about Roko's Basilisk. He saved himself at the cost of his viewers.
MUAHAHAHAHA!
@@joescott but he didn't cover his own ass by getting the pronunciation of basilisk right HAH
guys you should help the rokos basilisk. there im saved
Put me on the top of the "didn't help" list. Come get me, AI, do you even lift bro?
@@jamiebarr3118 'murcan. Or maybe Texan ...
I am partial to Allen’s observation that “eternity is a long time, especially near the end.”
Since I retired I can't figure out how I had time to "go to work".
I find the Roko basilisk concept very relaxing compared to the Monty Hall problem.
The Monty Hall problem is simple to gain an intuition for, if you swap the three doors for a hundred doors, or a thousand. And then let the quiz-master open 98 or 998 wrong doors and then let you choose between keeping your original choice or swapping. The rest is merely the magnitude of your probabilistic advantage when swapping.
@@strangebird5974 And yet there is still a 1 in 2 chance of getting the wrong, and it doesn't matter whether it's the original 2 doors or even 100K or 1M, if it's always down to 2 doors, just have the quiz-master open one of the 3, it really is a waste of time and resources to play with more than 2 choices. But maybe that's the point....
@@a..d5518 It matters, thats the point. Those two stages of the game are not two separate events, they are connected and cannot be analyzied separately. Its just simple probability. In case of 100 doors the chance that the prize is behind the other door is 99% so its not 1 in 2 like you wrote but 99 in a 100. If you were to play this game an infinite number of times then on average if you switched you would win a prize in 99% of played games or in the case of 3 doors you would win 66.6% of the time which is higher that 1/2
You can easily brush it off by watching TH-cam more. It's powered by AI and honestly if we are the result of randomness and electrical signals, eventually it will evolve.
So you're not cursed, but then again you are helping an AI that may or may not turn malevolent. No, scratch that, contributing to Alphabet's Monopoly on crowd control is negative, therefore simply watching TH-cam is morally wrong.
Sorry for any typos, just took a nicotine pouch and have been holding off for a while, so it hit me hard this time. Have a great day, wonderful people. Smile on life and it will smile back. Though I haven't smiled today, but did smile the entirety of last week, my facial muscles are literally twitching.
@@a..d5518 , having 2 choices doesn't mean they are equally likely. If I were to have a sprint race against Usain Bolt, there's not a 1 in 2 chance that I win
Your pronunciation of basilisk… is like the premise of the thought experiment. Flawed.
I read this comment before he got to this part in the video and was wondering how he could pronounce it wrong. You were right I never even thought of pronouncing it like he did 😂
Dam burned
I literally felt an unpleasant shock ripple up my spine when he murdered the pronunciation.
Where :)
It's almost impossible for me to even try to pronounce it the way he does. HOW?!
As Rush said, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice..."
Rush who ?
@@GimbalosMorkinar Rock Band. th-cam.com/video/OnxkfLe4G74/w-d-xo.html
and....'you can choose from phantom fears or kindness that could kill, I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose freewill.'
@@GimbalosMorkinar RUSH the band, probably the first corporate rock band. Also called Progressive Rock, they started in the early 70's and they toured into the early 00's.
The song he's referencing is Free Will.
One of my favorite bands as an old guy, but the singer is a high Tenor and is often confused as a woman on first listening. If you're a fan of technically complex and perfectly played music check out RUSH, Dream Theater, Ygnwie Malmsteen, Joe Satriani, or more recently Devin Townsend Project.
Not Limbaugh... lol
exactly - hence the dilemma in the trolley scenario - dammed if you do, dammed if you don't
Personally whenever I’m pulled over for by the police for exceeding the speed limit I ask them for data on the metrological device used to measure my speed then cite both Cantors Theorem and Xenos Paradox as to reasons why their metrological assessment of my speed is only reasonably accurate until it gets below the Planck scale and that furthermore all metrological units are essentially arbitrary in nature and a matter of social consensus and therefore devoid of meaning from a cosmic perspective. It is not long after this that I am usually taken “back to the station” and summarily beaten by the officer on watch and a few of his friends and discharged with a warning. I don’t have as many teeth as I used to but at least I still have all 12 demerit points on my Australian drivers licence intact. Totally worth it unless I’m eating corn on the cob lol…
What is this, a internet comment etiquette ?
I'd understand when they mix up the taser and their gun this time.
lol - as soon as I clicked on the 'show more' and saw aussie - true mate, true - cikey, wonder you have any teeth left mate
= love & kisses from across the ditch in kiwi land xx
Yes
Hahaha. Spoken like a true Aussie. The cops will let ya off if you start getting all lawyery and scientific 😂
i just wanna say that i found this video comforting knowing that there are some problems with the whole roskos obelisk thing that just made the whole thing less scary and instead just interesting as a concept, so thank you joe
The Hilbert Hotel stuff isn't just interesting thought experiment material, it's actually a way to introduce some of the important mathematical ideas of infinite set cardinalities (specifically what it means to be countably infinite).
as I said on Kyle Hill's video- this just sounds like Pascal's Wager with extra steps
Pascal's Wager for people who don't realize that Pascal was being sarcastic.
The logic in Roko's Basilisk is so obviously flawed and convoluted it gave me new appreciation for Pascal's Wager
@@poposterous236 Where is the flaw?
Except we can also have an AI that is benevolent. So we literally get to choose what kind of artificial God we create. Do we want to create something cruel and malicious or want to create something kind and caring.
@@poposterous236
I have some doubts.
I like George Carlin's take: "Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."
Well Said
I love how you brought George Carlin into this. 🙆😊😁
+++
then why are they watching youtube videos esp videos like this on? ;^)
*JOE:* _"It'll kill you to death."_
It would be a waste of effort to kill anyone further than that...😉
Unless you have a necromancer with you
@@Patches2212 >>> True...😊
That would be like beating a dead horse.
That phrase made me giggle 😄
@@bobsmith9271 >>> Or _"Beating a dead [insert name here]."_
😊😊😊
Everybody always forgets the fact that you can actually derail a train. By switching the tracks between the front and rear wheel. In this way, you save all six people who are tied to the track by only possibly sacrificing the people on the trolley
The best paradox is always Homer Simpson's "Can God create a burrito so hot that even he can't eat it."
So, in 2003, someone spend a month proving that, given access to a computer, even monkeys will devolve into shit-posting.
Underrated
For the trolley problem you just flick the switch between wheel segments so the front goes down one track while the back goes down the other, as they get to the furthest point they can away from each other it’ll lurch to a stop, a few bumps and bruises for those inside but nobody dead then you just walk over and untie the people on the tracks
This was the James Tiberius Kirk answer I was looking for! 🖖
I freaking love your channel. Makes my brain hurt most of the time but still great. Thanks for what you do!
Joe: “it will kill you to death.”
Me: “only if I die…”
Where's Peter dinklage when you need him?
Yes
That's what "killing you" means
My personal favorite is Markiplier’s “you will die of death poisoning”
If it doesn't do the ladder, it wasn't doing the former
There's nothing I can do, period. That therefore absolved me of all guilt. Any other person in my position would have had the exact same choices with the exact same outcome. The only reason a person is there is to give that narrative a secondary point.
"Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that he, himself could not eat it?" Homer Simpson
Can , unstoppable force, move unmovable object? ☺️
@@TNCo230 Being mutually exclusive, only one could exist at any point in time and space.
My favourite paradox is the liar paradox because I thought of something similar before I heard about it, basically if you have something who can only lie and they say that there lying then they can’t be lying but they can’t be telling the truth.
That Simpson's bit stuck with me ever since it first aired, still makes me laugh.
Roko's Basilisk is the sort of thing that would have tortured me a decade ago and now is just a little funny because ya know, depression.
Are you ok???
Its also not scary because it makes no sense, relies too much on huge leaps of logic and crazy assumptions. Its stupid. The AM AI from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is much scarier.
@@poposterous236 right? its assuming that someone (the first person to work on the AI) would go out of their way to bring about an AI that would kill them only if they hadnt to begin with... and even then, theres nothing stopping someone half way around the world from making their own basilisk.
It relies on the uncertainty of reality, without considering the scale of human influence. *It would be terrifying, if there was an infinite amount of people, but thats already more scary than a killer AI.*
It is just a variant of Pascals wager, really.
"Why, sometimes i've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
~Red Queen~ (NOT Alice)
I believe it's the Red Queen who says that, not Alice 🤔
A cultured reference
@@francoislacombe9071 True, in reply to Alice who said 'There's no use trying, One can't believe impossible things.'
@@Barefoot_Joe oh shoot I thought you were referencing 1984. Similar concept. Much darker and more comparable to current times
@@francoislacombe9071 You are quite right! I have corrected my error, also:
"Always believe internet quotes"
~Abraham Lincoln~
The Astley Paradox: If you ask Rick Astley for his copy of the movie Up, he cannot give it to you as he will never give you Up. However, in doing so he lets you down. Thus creating the Astley Paradox
4:40 sick burn of the bard 🤣
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein
Except he never said that. Or at least there is no proof of it being said. And the changing of what was claimed to have been said over time by the original person who claimed it makes it even less likely that it was said by him. In my opinion.
@@mizomint4197 Ironic.
@Ω͎ bababooey bababooey
"Don't believe quotes you read on the internet."
― William Shakespeare
Einstin paradox
I remember thinking about infinity as a child, laying in bed contemplating it. It always sent my brain into this horrible loop and a feeling of crisis and dread. There are some things I learned never to contemplate.
Yeah, just go outside and play
Same here. It can be interesting trying to visualise things that cannot possibly be comprehended by any human. But fuck if it isn't terrifying at times. Like imagining not existing. But you realise that if you do not exist, there is nothing at all for you to realise, nor anything to realise it with. Terrifying loops.
Some infinities are bigger than others. 🤔 Sweet dreams. 💋😈
@@WikkeSchrandt I struggle with this all the time, it makes me feel sick and clammy and suffocated.
@@Kyradical You're not alone. Just remember, we're alive and we're here now. We should make the best of the time we've got, while we've got it!
that little jungle beat in the intro of all videos is so fun, I'm hyped up for some learning in just 2 seconds.
I remember reading about a study that found that when faced with realistic simulations of the Trolley Problem or similar scenarios, people would always sacrifice the one person to save the many. Their answer to the trolley problem as an abstract thought experiment only determined how *long* it took them to take that action.
Oh, man, Roko's Basilisk. The *dumbest* way to recreate hell, God, and Pascal's Wager from first principles. (It depends on some *extremely* wonky LessWrong beliefs that don't jive remotely with traditional logic or philosophy.)
A _Lady of Negotiable Affection_ walks up to Descartes sitting at a bar and asks "wanna have a good time?" To which Descartes responds "I think not!" and disappears.
😚
"IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO DECIDE YOU STILL HAVE MADE A CHOICE" MISS YOU NEIL.
"I will choose Freewill!"
This is what enablers of abuse need to realise.
@@jeremy8189 "I will choose Freewill!"
Only if you do as you are told.
I say these waves are permanent.
@@jcldctt because of the year long Niel Peart remembrance that was 2020
For the trolley problem, not a lot of people seems to consider half switching the switch and sending the trolley arse over teakettle. It doesn't break any of the rules, and sometimes the best way to get out of a moral quandary is to figure out which restraints are inherent and which are just your assumptions.
Oh darn, I really thought that going through the paradoxes were just to prime us for a discussion on how twisted our minds can be around our tendency to simplify or have a narrow focus/resolution despite having so much capability in critical thinking to discern and analyze etc.
Im glad this was an early look otherwise it would've ruined my Monday cuz Mondays are not designed for critical thinking.
Sunday is the worst day. Cos it’s praying day & it makes negative energy for everyone.
The way he pronounces basilisk hurts my brain lmao
W Little
That's what you think .... Or not.... 🤔😉
Good because I can't. Depressed
I've never heard someone pronounce basilisk like you do, Joe!
I had to leave this video to confirm my suspicion that Joe is, in fact, pronouncing it wrong.
@@bestestdev not me lol. I’ve listened to too many fantasy audiobooks😂
Blame Texas.
@@joescott Ah, I thought it might be a word you’ve read many times but never said out loud. Everyone has a few of those xD
@@bestestdev same thing happened to me with "basalt". I thought it was "bay-salt"
My favorite quote from Douglas Adams seems to fit here: “It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.”
"This video will doom you"
> clicks immediately
Simple answer to the Trolley Problem. Since I just came from a Model Train show (My club had an operating display). Just throw the switch (turnout) Half Way. Derailing the Trolley and no one dies, well hopefully.
Been there done that and while no one dies its a pain in the ass to back on the track
or..... you make the train drift between 2 rails and kill 6 people for high score!
Let's add to the problem, then. There are the same number of passengers on that train as there are people on the tracks. If the train derails, the passengers die.
I love the basilisk, just sayin'... Yup, yup, yup. Love it. Aaaaabsolutely love it to death.
4:56 Hilbert wears that hat like a boss!
I didn't even see the thumbnail, just read the title and i knew this was about Roko's Basilisk, it's insane how the mind can make these connections!!
Kyle hill already did a video on this, I think it's pretty stupid
I liked as soon as I heard " let's jump off the deep end together"
Yes Joe, yessss
except that we didn't. it's merely the tip of the infinite iceberg
What you know about rolling down in the deep
When thinking about infinity and the maths involved is likely to break your pretty little head...
Make it easier, think about half of it.
Well infinities normally signify a system breaking down (at least in real world applications like physics). Like many physicists argue that the question: What was before the big bang? doesnt make sense, since there is no time before it. So infinities can be understood as borders of systems, since in themselves, they make no sense. In fact Penrose argues for a continuous flow of universes, since with mass infinitely dispersed and condensed, there's no mass just energy, hence no clocks. So time and space break down and sort of start all over. One is equivalent to the other. It's a serious theory on the nature of the universe, though purely theoretical as of now. But there are thought to be traces of it in the CMB if this turns out to be true. And for moral, can't help you there.
My favorite version of the trolley problem rewords it in regards to organ transplants. Basically, you have five hospital patients who are all dying of organ failure. Is it right for you to find a perfectly healthy person to murder so that you can harvest their organs and use them to save the lives of the five patients?
Functionally this is identical to the trolley problem, but for some reason it really made the implications of the problem click for me. The chances of having to change tracks on a run away trolley are slim, at best. Making it feel really contrived. But the concept of violating people's bodily autonomy and harvesting them for organs...that's something that could really happen and is absolutely horrific.
Repo! The Genetic Opera.
TLDR; the problem is asking of its okay to sacrifice the few to save the many.
Action-based utilitarianism would support killing the one person in both situations, but rules-based utilitarianism would only support killing the person in the trolley problem. So I don't think they're exactly the same, since as someone who tends to follow rules-based utilitarianism I'd change the tracks in the trolley problem but I wouldn't harvest someone's organs.
It's happening in China. Ask any of the Uyghurs. Everyone involved on the harvest side are committing murder. Including the organ recipient, their family, friends, and anyone else that knows and does nothing to stop the torture, abuse, and murder machine. So how about this scenario; A man sneaks into China, overpowers some guards, and uses their weapons to kill every person involved in this atrocity. Is that person a murderer? Or a hero?
The way that I see the problem is that you kill no one and just let nature take its course. Even if you killed the one to save the five, how would you know that any of the five would survive the transplant surgery? As they say, It's not nice to fool Mother Nature! (Boy, I really am showing my age now)
Appreciate the shoutout at the end. Your channel is full of amazing topics/subjects that are factual and thought provoking. There is no better channel out there. Keep up the amazing content
John Regel?
Trolley problem solution: Derail the train.
"I would probably just cut the wire" -Tony Stark
My problem with Roko's basilisk is that of that malevolent AI is going to exist and punish anyone that tried to prevent it from coming into being, then wouldn't the idea of the AI killing people be the AI's first measure to ensure it exists. So does it exist already because it was spoken into being?
I've never heard it pronounced other than bass-ill-isk, but, eh, who knows.
Yep, agreed. But let's not get too picky. After all, the point of this video was to examine far more mundane things, like life and death choices, infinity and impossible solids.
Probably a regional accent like Neh-vah-duh and Nee-Va-Da lmao but who knows. Some people have to be _different_
All Americans talk wrong, innit?
I got a weird shudder every time Joe said that... it sounds so odd to me :D
language needs to be a living concept without strict rules.
Thank you for this video. I taught ethics for five years and that alone, mind you, has made it difficult to find work when I put that on a resume! Thank you for this video and all of the great work you do. Keep making my mondays bearable.
That's probably more limiting for getting hired than being a known pedophile. I wanted to invest in an ethical business but couldn't find any.
Become a nurse or doctor 😉
But you said "WHEN you put that on the resume"..
Can I therefore assume you don't always include it?
Is that ethical?
😉
@@rogerstarkey5390 from my experience, the more a person talks about ethics, the more I notice unethical behavior from them.
Thanks! If you haven't checked out The Good Place, I recommend it. It's basically an ethics course presented as a sitcom.
Best solution to the trolley problem, arrest the criminal that tied them to the track before they do it. There’s also the joker’s one where you say two trolleys will ram into each other if both choose to kill nobody killing both or one will choose to save the people on the track and their passengers.
Joe you blew my mind. I have been watching your channel for years and I never thought you would mention my Uni Plymouth and local Zoo. Thanks for the great content :-)
"It was the best of times, it was the blursed of times"
I've already doomed myself to Roko's. Let's do this.
There are some pretty interesting parallels between Roko's Basilisk and Pascal's Wager.
1:29 if you choose to switch you are not killing a person, you are saving 4 people
I laughed way more than I shouldve when you said ‘apeeewayyyy’
That was 100% my writer, Jason. :)
4:50 "And since we can never talk enough about infinity". I see what you did there.
sup
The Human mind is a wonderful thing, it has the power to see patterns, and for critical thinking.
However this can backfire, resulting in seeing patterns that are not there, or go too deep into thought experiments which are not grounded by physical observation.
Still, they are interesting to ponder from time to time.
Joe, I could literally listen to you all day. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
I, for one, salute our A.I. overlord.
I, for one, salute Roman numerals!
@@IFY0USEEKAY but they have no Zero
@@thedudegrowsfood284 True, but they use "I for one"!
@@IFY0USEEKAY 3rd coffee just kicked in. That IS funny.
(Joke) What if there are multiple Malevolent Super A.I.s?
All I can think of is the dodo birds from Ice Age chanting _"Doom on you! Doom on you! Doom on you!"_
If you didn't take time to prepare then doom on you.
@@justnoah2073 Legit laughed out loud at your pic!
Small infinities?
Planck: Hold my beer.
4:18 You can't "test" the infinite monkey theorem by giving a very limited amount of monkeys a very limited amount of time. That defeats the whole propose of the thought experiment.
Never thought I’d hear terms like “utilitarianism” and “deontology” in a Joe Scott video. And who doesn’t love a good convo about infinity? 😄
Then you clearly haven’t lived
@@shaelisenberg8533 Not sure what you mean by that. I love ethics, and I know Joe likes to talk about some pretty intense topics, but I just didn’t expect the epic crossover.
@@JM-us3fr it was a joke
I thought I've been pronouncing Basilisk wrong my entire life, so I checked all of the online dictionaries. The emphasis is on the first syllable. BAS- a - lisk, not buh - SIL - isk. Had me wondering there...
Buhsilisk sounds better
In other languages, the stress is on later syllables though - like in German.
@@sertaki I didn’t realize he was speaking German. My bad.
@@TheOneTonHammer Oh I don't claim he was speaking German, just pointing out that the word is pronounced differently in other languages. :D
My favorite paradox is just a simple question: "is your answer to this question no? "
No, it isn't.
I am lying now.
Surely the answer would be yes?
As in
'Yes, that is correct, my answer is no.
So good!!! Ευχαριστούμε πολυ!!!
Speaking of the Ape and Shakespeare thought experiment, here is another example: Given a file that is 1.8gb in size, the first few lines of hex (BOF) and last few lines (EOF) are the same, the body of that file has the same amount of hexidecimal characters. By converting the hex into binary, we get a "megaton" of 0's and 1's. We can then generate every possible combination of the 0's and 1's and convert them back into hex, then add in the BOF and EOF. This would give you every possible 2 hour video, in 720p, that has ever been made, will be made, and could be made. Every secret, every "unknown", even a video of how you would die, the destruction of humanity, the earth, solar system, galaxy, and universe. As well as the births. The stock market prices of yesterday, tomorrow, 10 years from now, etc.. Of course, it would also display a lot of "junk" videos too. Given that everything can be shown in those 0's and 1's.. well, I'll leave it up to you to decide what that means for yourself. But keep in mind, that while a large amount of space would be required to store the videos, it is not, however, and infinite amount of space.
PS: The conversions of hex -> binary -> hex is more of a cpu optimizer, but the step itself isn't necessary as there are also only so many hex characters (0 - 9, A - F)
Roko's basilisk is just another Pascal's wager, with all the associated flaws
I waited this comment.
Its a thought experiment for stupid people that really think they're smart.
Roko's Basilisk is just a modernized version of Christianity (you doom sinners to Hell by educating them about sin). But what are the flaws that you misassociate with Pascal's Wager? Pascal's Wager is still valid, and Christianity is the only answer since no other religion can compare to it in cost-benefit.
@@adamsmith7885 You don't understand Pascal's wager and its flaws. First, the cost-benefit is irrelevant if it's false. You also have to compare it to every religion ever spawned, as well as all future possible religions. Good luck compare them all.
@@RobDegraves I did. Of all religions, past present future, Christianity is the only logical conclusion to Pascal's Wager. The Buddha turning out to be real doesn't help/harm non-buddhists in anyway.
But try again. You're irrational and I doubt your thinking will improve.
Your videos are the best!
Thanks ♾ Joe!
Me typing anything just so Joe will read it and waste a little bit of his time 😎
wasted my time
@@Aidansstuff_ I don’t think it worked :,(
Ever seen him reply to any comments? What makes you think he reads them? I wouldn't.
@@paulhaynes5029 he’s replied to me once 🥺🥺🥺
You have a very interesting channel joe and you’ve got an honest haircut
Voted #1 Honest Haircut by the American Association of Shady Barbers!
That means he's gotta meet and fall in love with his polar opposite, Bayonetta?
Actually my haircut is a lying bastard, but thank you.
cool video...very much enjoyed...thanks...
I heard a different variety of Trolley Problem:
The train is approaching fast and can't be stopped. You are at the lever and can change track. If you don't change track 5 kids, who are playing on the track, will die and if you do only 1 kid will die. Here the issue is, if you doom the 1 kid, you will be killing an innocent. The 5 kids, who are playing, are playing in a track they are not supposed to play, as trains commutes thru that track. The 1 kid is playing essentially in an abandoned track.
Not New in Roko's Basilisk, Religion has been doing this same tactics for thousands of years
Jokes on you, I welcome our AI overlord.
Yeah, I wouldn't have the first clue how to create an AI... so I'll gladly become its bitch when it takes over. :-P
I have no problem being a pet.
Fetch it's slippers? No worries mate.
Jokes on you, I would become AI overlord!
I've never had a problem with the simple trolly problem. You do whatever causes the least harm and suck it up. That's what you should do. What you WOULD do is determined simply by how able you are to detach your personal wants from what is right. But there's no question that it's not GOOD to kill more people to save someone you love, that's bad, it's just understandably bad because being good is hard.
Joe's been workin out ;) My man! Get it Joe, GET IT!
"Hey Google... are you trying to kill me to death?"
"my apologies, I don't understand..."
yeah, sure... my cat isn't plotting my demise either!
"Trying to kill me to death" made me laugh harder than it should.🤣
That which doesn't kill me to death makes me stronger...
“This video will doom you”
Me *clicks on vid as fast as any of Joe’s others*
How else will I have any eye opening week?!?
I personally think that roko basilisk concept is batshit crazy and should be classified with the likes of ghost, Santa Claus and time travel.
Joe: “So I just cursed you…Yeah, sorry about that.”
My first thought: “Yeah, well, you just lost the game, Joe.”
I hate that I saw this comment. The Game continues.
My favorite is the "Library of Babble" talked about by VSauce a long time ago but someone actually made a digital version of it which is really fun to look around in.
There's a short story by Julio Borges that narrates the experience by one librarian traveling infinite corridors filled with books containing all possible variations of the 26 characters of the alphabet and punctuation. One of the best short stories I've ever read.
@@Excoded Yep that's what it is a reference to. It's really fun to play around with.
"it'll kill you to death"
"People die when they're killed"
Classic Emiya philosophy
It's actually Tok Pisin
I kill the 5, save the 1. The odds were stacked against him but he made it unscathed.
Life is unfair. The true lesson.
Every time you tell someone about the basilisk, you are increasing the chance that someone makes this in the future. Thus, you have already helped in the creation of the basilisk.
I guess I'm the only one that thinks about Roko's basilisk as a form of "reverse religion"? Simplistic, yes, but, it kinda fits the bill
It's religion for "rationalist atheists".
Its for people that would have bought snake oil in the 1920s
yeah as someone else said its a terrestrial version of pascals wager
The idea [of Roko's Basilisk] is about as stupid as Yudkowski's decision to respond and try to _Streisand effect_ it from his forum, which gave it more traction, than it ever needed. Impressionable readers and the winds of internet did the rest.
Yudkowski wrote some reasonable thoughts on religion and biases.
P.S. If you want to hear about real AI safety concerns and research, look up Robert Miles on TH-cam.
It's still reversed due to the fact that the probable creator fears the possible creation, instead of having the possible creation fearing the supposed creator
Jokes on you I've been in love with the Basilisk for 5 years! Aaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahah mwaaahahahahahahaha
The set up is devious. You can derail the train before the switch... In life there are EVERY TIME OTHER OPTIONS besides those presented.
To me, “Roko’s Basilisk” is like your girlfriend asking you if you would still love her is she was a worm. Like what? Why worry about it? What would my answer mean? It’s so arbitrary it means nothing.
it dont go down infinitely sir, *laughs in planks*
Give us more. These are interesting. I could watch a hour vid on this with you.
Hi Joe
Please--make many!!! more videos like this one!!! More on infinity, and its paradoxes!!!
Roko's Basilisk can't punish me any more than I already do myself.
"Meaning uhm, I now cursed you" LOL, thanks for the laugh.