Bullets Garage are you sure because not one time did you put your head under there and look. You just blindly felt around and said fuck it that’s good enough. So. No it wasn’t.
Your biggest mistake was putting the Jack under the car with out visually seeing where your placing it. For safety to yourself and damage to your car or anyone else's. KEEP YOUR EYES ON WHAT YOUR DOING.
Mistake 1: Didn't lay on the floor and visually check the placement of the jack. Mistake 2: Didn't take your time. You just kept pumping and pumping without stopping to check things out. Mistake 3: Didn't position the rear wheels of the jack perpendicular to the car. When jacking up a car the jack needs to roll in towards the car. It was unable to do that as the wheels were facing the wrong way, therefore the car slid off.
Thanks for sharing this video.We all learned from your mistake You could have hidden this and we never would have known but you take it like a champ and show us your mistake ..... Keep your head up fix the car and keep uploading more videos
nope. this is mainly beacuse weight distrubution changed, when he lift a cat at the back end. if thatz car would stay flat at ground, this wouldn't happpen, imo.
That was very brave and honourable of you to share with us. I see there are some bad messages but I feel your pain. I’m glad you didn’t give up, if it was easy it wouldn’t be fun!
I think placement was probably good. What appears to have happened is that the jack was not allowed to roll forward as it was jacked (due to a floor crack or whatever stopping the jack wheel), so instead of the jack rolling forward as it generally does keep in touch/locked with the lift point, the jack saddle moved/slipped back with each pump, until it was too late. Sorry for your loss, bud. Tough day.
dude you have both wheels in the back raised, then raise one corner of the car? wtf did you think was going to happen, the pucks slipped because 3/4 of the car were raised, you jacking the front right made the car TILT to the front left, causing it to slip. Moreover, you didn't even look to see where the jack made contact. "OMG" lmao
@@BulletsGarage 4:04 - there you can first time hear that something is wrong and was not too late to stop. Also IMHO that was God(Lord) punishment for removing second cat and becoming another loud asshole who do not care about any one else than himself.
Lmao. Amateur ? Clearly u didn’t see all the work I did to this car myself. I was sadly in a rush and didn’t take the time to make sure car was going up ok and this happened
@@BulletsGarage If you have worked so much on cars you must know better than anyone that you should NEVER jack up your car in a hurry. for your own safety and that of your car as you see. but hopefully you learned from it and I must say, respect for the placement of the video you put yourself pretty vulnerable in this way. I can appreciate. where people work, mistakes are made.
Oh no! Sucks dude. All material things in life is all temporary bro. We can’t take it with us when we’re gone. Its fixable and we move on. All we can do is make memories with our family. God Bless You bro 🙏🏼
Oh wow that sucks, my heart just dropped as that happened! The jack wasn't moving towards the car as you were lifting it. So it was pulling back the pad towards you and slipped off the jack point.
Thank for posting this, sorry for this happen to you, but you are willing to share so others will not get hurt or happen to them. YOU HAVE SAVE MANY PEOPLES & SHOW US TO BE EXTREMLY CAREFUL WHEN WORK UNDER CAR. BE PROUD & DO NOT FEEL BAD THING HAPPEN
@@dkaczur4092 Shouldn't slip if it's on there properly. Hopefully he looks under to check now but it looks like it might've just been on the edge of the pad, and the minor crunching was because it wasn't even pressure on the pad.
1. Always use jack stands. 2. Always look where your jack mount point is, don't do it by feel. 3. Jack up one point at a time, place jack stands, then move to the next point. Last...I feel your pain!
@@Dolby109 I really meant use a floor jack to raise it then support it with jack stands rather than using tire ramps. With tire ramps you get flex due to suspension travel which changes as the other end of the car is raised.
Thanks for posting. Watched it a few times to see what exactly happened so that it doesn’t happen to me. Found the real issues. I don’t fault you for not looking under the car. They have a small post like jack spot that you can easily feel with your hands as you seat the jack to the post. I can see that you moved the jack around until you felt it centered. Much like a mechanic putting a nut or bolt in a hard to see blind spot (Dexterity). I would have looked anyways, but I can kinda tell you had it seated. The problems are the following: 1. You used two hockey pucks stacked that pretty much slipped as they created a leaning tower. That’s why jacks have teeth or pads with groves. 2. Car was at a high enough angle to create the slip with slippery pucks stacked. Pucks are meant to slide right? 3. Seemingly rough and cracked cement that prevented the jack from moving forward which never happened and only moved sideways once the car slipped. 4. Don’t know if wheels were chucked to help prevent front movement , cars are designed to move forward and reverse, they roll. With that said unibody cars are rigid which is why when you lifted it the back wheel came off the ramp. Long story short, might have been better to lift one side then the other instead of back then front with such a difference in height. The mechanics of the jack allow it to move forward and reverse easier then sideways. Watch the arm movements. So lifting one side first then the other would have helped with your particular scenario (rolling resistance). If you wanted to lift front or back first instead of the side, then place the floor jack in front or back. Jack will move easier to center itself. There are places on the car to lift from the center front or back. Hope this helps you or anyone else. Like I said, thanks for posting. I may have made a similar mistake, you just made it first and I decided to learn from it.
Thank God you didn't get hurt bro! Yes it hurts to damage my dream car in that way but just consider that a learning experience at this point. It certainly could of been worse.
You made the right decision not getting under the car after watching that thing slip off the jack. That`s crazy how that thing crumpled right up the passenger door. I use a hockey puck all the time and have always had positive results. I would get it fixed and trade it in ;)
@@BulletsGarage Just personal preference I guess. The OCD in me would alway`s see that damage even after it was repaired. You do what`s best for you though. Cheers!
Important Rules! 1. You lift the jack a little bit, take a look under the car, make sure its still centered! 2. NEVER NEVER use a jack in front when the back is lifted up, the car has to be on plain surface! the weight is not distributed according to what it was designed!
When I started working on my BMW, I bought the actual pad adapter for my jack that bolts onto the head of the jack. Not sure if they have a similar attachment for Lexus cars, but may be worth looking into.
Dude, my heart sank when I saw that. 🤦♂️ But because of your mistake, we are all going to be extra careful. Plus - this may go viral and your channel blows up 😊
Sorry to see this but I’m glad you weren’t hurt. I had the very same thing happen to me with my Camaro Zl1 1LE. I crushed my passenger side fender and ended up having to replace it. Getting the door fixed is no big deal. Looks like you already fixed it. This is a lesson in physics as well as attention to detail. Your jack never rolled under the car as the car was being lifted (same thing that happened to me). So it’s jacking the car at an angle, the higher the car goes the more severe the angle. The second you take your hands off the jack it will roll out from under the car. Get yourself a quick jack and Race Ramps. Those rhino ramps you are using are known to buckle. The next day after my debacle I went out and invested on the Quick Jack and Race Ramps. The best $2,000 investment you’ll make on your car if you are going to do your own work or film videos.
That sucks bro but dont let it or these people discourage you. You made a mistake. Just be thankful it didnt happen when you were under. You live and learn! My best advice, dont get lazy when it comes to cars. Always make sure youre taking the extra and correct steps because they can be the difference between a job well done and catastrophe for you and your car.
I am really sorry this happened to you. And thank you for sharing your experience with us. I'm sure people can learn from watching your video and not to make the same mistake. Seeing you liking "harsh" comments, I'm worried that you are being too hard on yourself. まとめサイトから来てる日本人のみんな、あんまりひどいこと言うなよ。。。
I'm so sorry brother!!! I really am!!! The GS F is one my absolute favorite Lexus cars and watching this freak accident happen just hurt my heart and mind!!! The second it happened my hand tapped the space button to somehow stop the car from going down.... a weird reaction, but I just froze.... couldn't believe what I just saw.... Again, so sorry man, I hope everything works out fine, specially with the insurance company, I hope you get to keep the car! And I'm sure your wife and brother will understand the situation and how it happened when watching the video. Best of luck!
Just paid my $500 deductible for my insurance and they covered the damages. All together it was like 8k in damages. New door new side skirt. Painted whole side and fender. Replaced the side skirt. All I did was a Joez cat back exhaust
Ouch, I've always used the floor jack to jack up my GSF from under the front subframe per the manual. Then placed those jack stands on both sides and let the car down. Other option is, i know some people will actually carve a slit into a hockey puck because of situations like this, theres a reason why theres a lip on the jack point. We all make mistakes, lessons learned help further ourselves!
He just didn’t jack it up properly. Never ever jack it up on the body panels because their very weak. Try to find a hard solid piece or frame to support weight of the jack
Expensive lesson, but you'll never mess that up again. I put a four inch hole in the side sill of my lotus in the exact same way. I had just bought the car a couple months prior... I feel your pain. At least you went viral lol
@@BulletsGarage I've looked in to this. Secondary catalytic converters are part of the emissions control system on a vehicle. They were designed in by the manufacturer to ensure compliance with environmental laws. They are not there for "cosmetics" or "sound deadening". These "secondary" cats still have catalyzing elements like platinum and rhodium n them that make them expensive to add to vehicles. You can bet if they were not needed to meet emissions regulations that the manufacturers would not add them in the first place. The reality is -- that in some locations - removing ANY emission control advice is against the law -- but getting caught not having it is not "illegal". In some cases you will not be able to register your car. Jurisdictions with progressive environmental laws -- such as CARB states, Scandinavia, Germany, etc. will definitely not allow you to register your vehicle if any factory-installed emissions device has been removed even if it does not cause an illuminated MIL.
I put the jack under the jack puck. Cuz the car was on the rear ramps and my garage floor is not smooth and Has cracks so the jack didn't slide forward and it slid off the jack pad
Man as soon as I heard the cracking, I was like, "let it down, let it down"!!!!😭😭😭 I've been under my car 1000 times, and I get my ass under the car EACH time to LOOK where that jack is placed. I'm hurting for you bro, but you'll bounce back..
@@ryans413 it looks like he was using a jack point. However he didn’t line it up quite right and was on the edge and the change in angle along with wheels on the jack made it slip off.
Bullets Garage Definitely bro, but fuck man this sucks ass, car was looking so F*** Clean. Glad your safe though and the Damage is not as bad as it looks. Could’ve been worse. Can’t wait to see it repaired again. Knowing you this should be fixed in a jiffy lol🔥🔥🔥🔥. Chris_isf
I see a lot of comments saying he needs to look at the contact point... Umm. How are you supposed to look at the contact point? He probably could have because he had those riser blocks, but I only have the jack and jack stands? How else would I jack up my car? (serious question)
If you use the hockey puck with the groove in the middle into the factory jack point(pinch weld) it will never slide(stays locked in when you jack it up). Looks like you used the hockey puck on the ZL1 pinch weld pads and it slid right off. If you're going to use the ZL1 pinch weld pads I'd say don't use the hockey puck at all. Good luck with the repair.
This is why I never do this now... based from experience. Does the GSF have a front or rear differential jacking point? Because pinch welds were never designed to be “jacked” up. The purpose is for lifts. With that being said I feel bad when people go to the tire shops and jack them up like in the video. Floor jacks with DESTROY pinch welds. Hope you can fix this soon
Floor jack at the front center jack point (there's a crossmember spot between the wheels). Then put the jack stands at the jack points after. If car is too low, get low (about 1.5-2 inch thick) and decently long (3-4+ feet is good) wooden planks behind wheels and back the car up slowly onto them before using the jack. Make sure you have enough room for the jack points when you do the planks. Can do the planks behind the front wheels for about a foot first when backing before you put in the rear planks for rear wheels. Good luck!
@@BulletsGarage i have a chrysler 300c that me and the ol man have worked on a fair amount. I have a two bob 2 tonne jack and jacking up is fine but coming back down there is always a bit of a thudd, shit my pants every time for the exact reason in your vid
I see everyone saying it didn't slip but it did. it was when you paused as you noticed something was wrong and as you pulled the handle up you accidentally moved the jack and it slipped. sucks but you'll bounce back. I feel your pain. I personally decided to let professionals work on my car because even though I "could" do it I'd rather have it done professionally and quickly compared to how long it would take me to do it. keep your head up. beautiful car
Aww man,this just crushed my heart to see this happen to such a nice ride.I sure hope that your insurance has you covered.I couldn't see the extent of the damage but the carbon fiber side skirt must cost a small fortune by itself.Good luck man,it can only get better after that one.
Damn that sucks! I have an 07 GS350 AWD and I would have cried! Only tip I would recommend is to use the jack pucks or pads with the little slit in them that cradles the frame jacking point. Sorry man!
Cracked jackpad. Happens more often then we know. They are only rated for so many uses. I usually just make my own with wood and toss them after 3 or 4 usage. Had 2 crack on me so far and luckily it didn't slide left or right instead it landed on the jack point but cracked the pad. The damage is fixable but it sucks to have that happen
I am sick to my stomach. So sorry bro. Glad you didn't get hurt, it could have been worse. You could have lost some body parts or crushed to death, I sure it happens every year. Just hope insurance doesn't try to bang ya. Keep your head up.
It does not look like you were under the pinch weld. However you should not use pinch welds with a floor jack. Pinch welds are for factory scissor jacks only. There are ways to use them using an adapter (ex a hockey puck with a channel cut where the pinch weld inserts into). Use a cross member when using a floor jack and consider using a 2x4 or bigger between jack and car to spread the pressure.
Ouch! I feel the pain here! Your floor jack needs to roll ahead as it lifts and unfortunately it wasn't and it pulled it out and tipped your puck. Puck Puck PUCK !!! Sorry man
Man, I am gutted for you...the pain in your voice is really what did it to me. So sorry that happened, I am glad it didn't fall on you or your dog. Maybe something to consider I use low profile race ramps that only lift the car 4" I drive the front up onto the race ramps set the parking brake and can jack the car from the transmission brace and then at the back from the differential, basically all the race ramps are for are to get the front of the car high enough I can get the low profile Jack far enough under without hitting anything. I'm working on a WRX I'm not sure if your GSF has alternate jack points like the differential and transmission brace like my car though.
The back wheels on the jack moving side way, or the cracks and holes on the concrete in front of the jack caused this . The jack needed to move forward when it lifted up the car. The distance between the jack and the car get longer as the jacked lifted the car higher. The jack needed to move forward to compensate the distance between the jack and the car.
Keep in mind if you go through the insurance it's going to be reported and it'll be public record when somebody pulls a Carfax it'll show that there's been damage on the car and you'll no longer have a clean record only way to avoid that is to fix it yourself out of pocket
It’s gonna be way to much out of pocket and plus I will have all the pics and proof of what’s been done. If I sell to a new owner. But I’m gonna keep the car for at least 10 years so I’m not concerned about the carfax
That's cool man if you're going to keep the car that long and you keep all the evidence then it shouldn't be that big of a deal, but I've seen in the past where something minor like that lowers the value of the car...... hope you get it fixed soon👍
We learn from others mistakes, if we are lucky. What really happened here is simple: 1) Jackpoint was engaged correctly and a puck was used. 2) Floor jack had its wheels perpendicular to car. < a mistake. 3) Floor jack raises BUT it is not rolling towards the car. 4) Car slips off puck or puck slips off floor jack. What went wrong? Friction force needed to move/roll floor jack forward was greater than the friction force need to move puck off of floor jack or jack point. Heart breaking but excellent video posted.
Things happen all the time man. I've been watching these since you first post about the car and end up buying one. Don't give up just because of a mistake. Everybody makes them just pick yourself up and keep going. Your human and A holes going to give you hell but others like enjoy these video and learning as someone else is.
Do you still have the Gsf I'm thinking of getting 1 I have a gs f sport awd. That's what's got me not sure about getting 1. They don't come in AWD and I live in Pennsylvania were it snows. But My other option was a LS. But I truly do want the GSf.
I'm sorry. It's sucks but I think you could get it repaired if the frame is fine. At least you didn't get hurt, alot of people get seriously hurt when a car falls off a jack
Step 1, DELETE video. Step 2, Hello Allstate, it was raining outside I went around a corner lost control and ran up on a curb. Step 3, keep making awesome videos Dam that hurt me bro I am sure everything will work out....
@@BulletsGarage don't feel bad about it, can happen to anyone. At least you didn't hurt yourself and it wasn't a customers car. That was my biggest fear back when I worked at a shop. These kinds of things happen more often than you might think, and the result can be lethal. A skilled body shop can fix that door in no time anyways.
I always use wishbones to lift at the point they meet the subframe, I’ve never ever trusted side jacking points they look too weak. Go from an angle and get the wishbone support and it can take all the weight you need
just be happy it wasnt you under that car man. my jack failed today too but it wasnt nearly as bad i was using the jack that come with the car to adjust my ride height, and the fucking jack completly folded luckly i had a stand underneath to save the car from completely falling. but even now after 4-5 hours after the incident im still very shook up and im so greatful it wasnt me under there
I watched the video several time. I think the cracking noise was not from the car but from the ramp. Note that the ramp moves a bit coincident with the noise. Also note that the pads slip towards the front. I think it's because the car was on too much of a difference in an incline to start with and that he'd used two pucks. As the jack moves up more load was transferred to the front driver wheel causing it to sag and increasing the angle as well. The jack wants to stay flat relative to the ground leaving the pucks to adapt to the angle so the two pucks formed their own angle creating an off center load and slipped. The rear casters being at that angle doesn't help either. As the jack moves up in an arch, the caster should roll forward into the car but the casters at the back prevented this. When he moved the lever up getting ready to stop he might have gave it a little twist that caused the tipping point; puck slipping. Lesson learn....don't use two pucks and lift a small height at a time.
Painful to watch, but on the bright side nearly 2k subs! We all fuck up, you were just brave enough to share this minor disaster with us as a warning. Instead of secondary cat delete, get some headers for more power & a tad more volume..
Yea I wanted to post it so people are more careful so they don’t make the mistake I made. And headers will void my warranty that’s gonna have to wait till my coverage is done
Sorry to see this. Thanks for sharing. You handled it really well. It is definitely a heart breaker. I agree, not enough clearance to work on the exhaust. Have you considered a quickjack? I love mine. I've change out the exhaust on my RC F twice and had plenty of room to work. It's so much more stable fully lifted instead of on stands.
dude's got some balls for posting something embarrassing. Most people try to hide their mistakes.
I posted it so ppl can learn from my mistake
@@BulletsGarage I really appreciate it, sorry about what happened to you dude
Fuck you and your avatar picture.
@@mariomilcha hey man fuck you too bro
Props to the at tbh
‘Came off the jack pad’ is a weird way of saying it was never on it
It was in it
Bullets Garage are you sure because not one time did you put your head under there and look. You just blindly felt around and said fuck it that’s good enough. So. No it wasn’t.
@@BulletsGarage No, it wasn't. One of the indicators showing that it actually wasn't on the pad - jack went through the bodywork.
Yea a key indicator that it was never on there was the cracking sounds from the first pump
"Well, I can hear things crumpling, but I'll just keep trying to raise it more!"
Absolute class act uploading this video so that others can learn from your mistakes and not just your successes.
Thanks
lmaooo well yeahh
Absolutely
Your biggest mistake was putting the Jack under the car with out visually seeing where your placing it. For safety to yourself and damage to your car or anyone else's. KEEP YOUR EYES ON WHAT YOUR DOING.
The problem was that you’re too scared to lay on your back and look under the car when you put the jack the right way
Rafael Guzman Yep jack goes on the pinch welds not on the body
The jack was on the zl1 jack pad. When I was jacking up the jack didn't slide Inward and slid off the jack pad.
He didn't climb down and look because he didn't want to mess up his hair.
No-one should be under the car with just a jack ;-)
@@bubbax7477 Must use some shitty hair product if it can't handle being upside down for a few seconds
Mistake 1: Didn't lay on the floor and visually check the placement of the jack.
Mistake 2: Didn't take your time. You just kept pumping and pumping without stopping to check things out.
Mistake 3: Didn't position the rear wheels of the jack perpendicular to the car. When jacking up a car the jack needs to roll in towards the car. It was unable to do that as the wheels were facing the wrong way, therefore the car slid off.
Thanks for sharing this video.We all learned from your mistake
You could have hidden this and we never would have known but you take it like a champ and show us your mistake ..... Keep your head up fix the car and keep uploading more videos
Alejandro Menent 💯💯💯
+1 to that. Takes a real man to show the world his mistake. Gives us all a good reminder to always double check the jack is secure before lifting!
Exactly right. Thanks
Thats what happens when u dont put the jack right under the jack point. No other excuse.
nope. this is mainly beacuse weight distrubution changed, when he lift a cat at the back end. if thatz car would stay flat at ground, this wouldn't happpen, imo.
izoyt it was crunching before the puck slipped. Wrong jack point
Goodjob
Yes, that’s what caused it to slip
That was very brave and honourable of you to share with us. I see there are some bad messages but I feel your pain. I’m glad you didn’t give up, if it was easy it wouldn’t be fun!
Simon L appreciate your comment man. Thank you
This has probably happened to a dozen guys but he's the only one with the balls to admit he f'ed up and share.
That's true
I think placement was probably good. What appears to have happened is that the jack was not allowed to roll forward as it was jacked (due to a floor crack or whatever stopping the jack wheel), so instead of the jack rolling forward as it generally does keep in touch/locked with the lift point, the jack saddle moved/slipped back with each pump, until it was too late.
Sorry for your loss, bud. Tough day.
4:09 that dog knew what was gonna happened and just bailed 😂😂
Yup he knew
😂😂😂😂 The dog wanted no involvement
Now that's why i always put my jack on the chassis not on the lip. Sorry to see that.
marineyacht dont feel sorry, just be thankful it happen to him
4:10 seconds. Notice the dog 🐕 leave the room?. Salute. His sense's kicked in
dude you have both wheels in the back raised, then raise one corner of the car? wtf did you think was going to happen, the pucks slipped because 3/4 of the car were raised, you jacking the front right made the car TILT to the front left, causing it to slip. Moreover, you didn't even look to see where the jack made contact. "OMG" lmao
You didn't hear all that crunching as you continued to pump up that jack?????? HA
i stopped when i heard it
@@BulletsGarage 4:04 - there you can first time hear that something is wrong and was not too late to stop. Also IMHO that was God(Lord) punishment for removing second cat and becoming another loud asshole who do not care about any one else than himself.
Lmfao cry me a river. People put on full catbacks that are louder then my car. Do they care only about themselves also?
@@BulletsGarage All of them should burn in hell!
D A N N Y savage
When amateurs start working on cars.
Lmao. Amateur ? Clearly u didn’t see all the work I did to this car myself.
I was sadly in a rush and didn’t take the time to make sure car was going up ok and this happened
@@BulletsGarage If you have worked so much on cars you must know better than anyone that you should NEVER jack up your car in a hurry. for your own safety and that of your car as you see. but hopefully you learned from it and I must say, respect for the placement of the video you put yourself pretty vulnerable in this way. I can appreciate. where people work, mistakes are made.
Sadly I made a mistake rushing. It happens
@@BulletsGarage oké sorry for my rude comment, its forgiven. And you learned you lesson i think, a bit of a expensive one. 😩 we all need to learn
I mean. That looks pretty amateur. I wouldn’t call it professional.
Oh no! Sucks dude. All material things in life is all temporary bro. We can’t take it with us when we’re gone. Its fixable and we move on. All we can do is make memories with our family. God Bless You bro 🙏🏼
Amen to that man!! 🙏🏼
This was painful to watch, but i still replayed it 6 more times to be sure
4:08 your dog knew you fucked up 😂. All the best bro 🙏
Yea he did
Oh wow that sucks, my heart just dropped as that happened! The jack wasn't moving towards the car as you were lifting it. So it was pulling back the pad towards you and slipped off the jack point.
Exactly rigt
Never EVER feel around for the jacking point!!
Everyday is a learning day cheer up man. You will find a way to get the baby fixed ❤️
Even the dog knew and left.. 😆
With only 3k subs I'd guess this guy will forever be known for being the car vlogger who can't even use a jack properly...
Lol funny
Let's hope not
@@BulletsGarage Hey! Aren't you the guy who doesn't know how to use a jack properly?
Nope
@@BulletsGarage this is what you get for using hockey puck and not for looking under
Thank for posting this, sorry for this happen to you, but you are willing to share so others will not get hurt or happen to them. YOU HAVE SAVE MANY PEOPLES & SHOW US TO BE EXTREMLY CAREFUL WHEN WORK UNDER CAR. BE PROUD & DO NOT FEEL BAD THING HAPPEN
Thank youb
jack "crunch" jack "crunch"...lol
But it slipped tho...
@@dkaczur4092 Shouldn't slip if it's on there properly. Hopefully he looks under to check now but it looks like it might've just been on the edge of the pad, and the minor crunching was because it wasn't even pressure on the pad.
Sorry but its not a jack fail, you failed to use the car jack points to lifted. I actually own two of those jacks, they had never failed me.
good to kno w
1. Always use jack stands. 2. Always look where your jack mount point is, don't do it by feel. 3. Jack up one point at a time, place jack stands, then move to the next point. Last...I feel your pain!
You're right about looking, but I'm not sure that was even high enough for jack stands yet.
It wasn’t
@@Dolby109 I really meant use a floor jack to raise it then support it with jack stands rather than using tire ramps. With tire ramps you get flex due to suspension travel which changes as the other end of the car is raised.
Makes sense. I know won’t use ramps again
Don't bother. We live in sick society where ppl are enyoing others failure and misfortune.
Thanks for posting. Watched it a few times to see what exactly happened so that it doesn’t happen to me. Found the real issues.
I don’t fault you for not looking under the car. They have a small post like jack spot that you can easily feel with your hands as you seat the jack to the post. I can see that you moved the jack around until you felt it centered. Much like a mechanic putting a nut or bolt in a hard to see blind spot (Dexterity). I would have looked anyways, but I can kinda tell you had it seated.
The problems are the following:
1. You used two hockey pucks stacked that pretty much slipped as they created a leaning tower. That’s why jacks have teeth or pads with groves.
2. Car was at a high enough angle to create the slip with slippery pucks stacked. Pucks are meant to slide right?
3. Seemingly rough and cracked cement that prevented the jack from moving forward which never happened and only moved sideways once the car slipped.
4. Don’t know if wheels were chucked to help prevent front movement , cars are designed to move forward and reverse, they roll. With that said unibody cars are rigid which is why when you lifted it the back wheel came off the ramp. Long story short, might have been better to lift one side then the other instead of back then front with such a difference in height.
The mechanics of the jack allow it to move forward and reverse easier then sideways. Watch the arm movements. So lifting one side first then the other would have helped with your particular scenario (rolling resistance). If you wanted to lift front or back first instead of the side, then place the floor jack in front or back. Jack will move easier to center itself. There are places on the car to lift from the center front or back.
Hope this helps you or anyone else. Like I said, thanks for posting. I may have made a similar mistake, you just made it first and I decided to learn from it.
Great analysis. Might save me from making the same mistake one day 🙂
Thank God you didn't get hurt bro! Yes it hurts to damage my dream car in that way but just consider that a learning experience at this point. It certainly could of been worse.
That is why you look at the placement of the jack instead of Stevie wondering it 😂
Dude, you made a mistake and owned it and posted it. Major respect. The car is 🔥 by the way!
Mark Thank you
DAMN! at least you weren't under it when it fell. I made a similar mistake on my 3 Series and took out my radiator fan
Justin Buice yea I saw your video. I was also in a rush and didn’t check where the jack was and this is the result. Huge headache
Justin Buice love your channel
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Dude, you make me never want to Jack my car up again.. it can be fixed but damn that was a big fail.
I don’t want to either. But I have to to do the secondary cat delete. But I’m gonna be way more careful so this will never happen again
I've been considering the Quick Jack BL5000slx
Just don’t be a dumb ass like this idiot and you’ll be fine lol. I’ve literally NEVER had this happen because I actually know what I’m doing.
Oh my bro. I'm very sorry but we all know you will bounce back from this disaster. Take care and get your ride back to glory!!
Thank you bro. Appreciate it.
Thanks god it’s only car damaged and not you! Hope you will repair it soon. Cheer up!
Thanks man.
You made the right decision not getting under the car after watching that thing slip off the jack. That`s crazy how that thing crumpled right up the passenger door. I use a hockey puck all the time and have always had positive results. I would get it fixed and trade it in ;)
Trade it in. Why
@@BulletsGarage Just personal preference I guess. The OCD in me would alway`s see that damage even after it was repaired. You do what`s best for you though. Cheers!
Important Rules!
1. You lift the jack a little bit, take a look under the car, make sure its still centered!
2. NEVER NEVER use a jack in front when the back is lifted up, the car has to be on plain surface! the weight is not distributed according to what it was designed!
When I started working on my BMW, I bought the actual pad adapter for my jack that bolts onto the head of the jack. Not sure if they have a similar attachment for Lexus cars, but may be worth looking into.
Dude, my heart sank when I saw that. 🤦♂️ But because of your mistake, we are all going to be extra careful. Plus - this may go viral and your channel blows up 😊
Shit I hope it head viral!!! Haha that would be amazing.
But yea it suxks so bad
@@BulletsGarage I shared it on Lexus IS Freaks on FB so hopefully you get some views your way. 😉 and don't give up on the build, KEEP GOING!
Viral video lol viral fail lol
Sorry to see this but I’m glad you weren’t hurt. I had the very same thing happen to me with my Camaro Zl1 1LE. I crushed my passenger side fender and ended up having to replace it. Getting the door fixed is no big deal. Looks like you already fixed it. This is a lesson in physics as well as attention to detail. Your jack never rolled under the car as the car was being lifted (same thing that happened to me). So it’s jacking the car at an angle, the higher the car goes the more severe the angle. The second you take your hands off the jack it will roll out from under the car.
Get yourself a quick jack and Race Ramps. Those rhino ramps you are using are known to buckle. The next day after my debacle I went out and invested on the Quick Jack and Race Ramps. The best $2,000 investment you’ll make on your car if you are going to do your own work or film videos.
Dam sorry to hear that man. It happened to you also. It does suck.
Dang zl1 1le!! Sick car my dream !!
Just get it then!! Make ur dream come true
Don’t want my dream to come true living at home with parents lol
BULLI KID it’s an incredible machine. It’s amazing what it’ll do on a windy road and it looks like it’s doing 100 mph while parked.
That sucks bro but dont let it or these people discourage you. You made a mistake. Just be thankful it didnt happen when you were under. You live and learn! My best advice, dont get lazy when it comes to cars. Always make sure youre taking the extra and correct steps because they can be the difference between a job well done and catastrophe for you and your car.
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I am really sorry this happened to you. And thank you for sharing your experience with us. I'm sure people can learn from watching your video and not to make the same mistake. Seeing you liking "harsh" comments, I'm worried that you are being too hard on yourself. まとめサイトから来てる日本人のみんな、あんまりひどいこと言うなよ。。。
Na it was an accident. Let people talk trash it does not effect me. Thanks for your comment
I’m a white GSF owner as well and my heart hurt when I saw what happen. Don’t worry you still got one of the sexy GSF around. Great videos!!
I'm so sorry brother!!! I really am!!! The GS F is one my absolute favorite Lexus cars and watching this freak accident happen just hurt my heart and mind!!! The second it happened my hand tapped the space button to somehow stop the car from going down.... a weird reaction, but I just froze.... couldn't believe what I just saw....
Again, so sorry man, I hope everything works out fine, specially with the insurance company, I hope you get to keep the car! And I'm sure your wife and brother will understand the situation and how it happened when watching the video.
Best of luck!
I wish u could have somehow made it stop from falling. The car will be back and fixed up.
@@BulletsGarage Perfect! That's the spirit! :) Looking forward more videos of this beast of yours! :) Keep it up!
Shit happens!!! Today is a new day. New opportunity.
Just paid my $500 deductible for my insurance and they covered the damages. All together it was like 8k in damages. New door new side skirt. Painted whole side and fender.
Replaced the side skirt.
All I did was a Joez cat back exhaust
Expensive lesson to learn man
Yes it was
Damn, that sucks so bad, I feel for you! Did the jack slip off the jack pad or did the jack pad fail at all? Ugh, that hurt to hear!
Hey man. The hockey puck slipped of the jack pad.
Bullets Garage - the pad is still seated properly?
Yes it is.
Ouch, I've always used the floor jack to jack up my GSF from under the front subframe per the manual. Then placed those jack stands on both sides and let the car down.
Other option is, i know some people will actually carve a slit into a hockey puck because of situations like this, theres a reason why theres a lip on the jack point.
We all make mistakes, lessons learned help further ourselves!
Definitely lesson learned
The dog said somethings going down. I’m out!
You get a like for manning up to the whole world . At the end of the day your alive and a car is replaceable but your life isn’t.
thank you
He just didn’t jack it up properly. Never ever jack it up on the body panels because their very weak. Try to find a hard solid piece or frame to support weight of the jack
Expensive lesson, but you'll never mess that up again. I put a four inch hole in the side sill of my lotus in the exact same way. I had just bought the car a couple months prior... I feel your pain. At least you went viral lol
Yea lesson learned.
Bizarre - you are choosing to remove a globally (and Federally) mandated emissions control device, and you're worried about a little bend in a door?
Ur a fool. Do ur homework. Secondary cats are no mandated. Only primary
@@BulletsGarage I've looked in to this. Secondary catalytic converters are part of the emissions control system on a vehicle. They were designed in by the manufacturer to ensure compliance with environmental laws. They are not there for "cosmetics" or "sound deadening". These "secondary" cats still have catalyzing elements like platinum and rhodium n them that make them expensive to add to vehicles. You can bet if they were not needed to meet emissions regulations that the manufacturers would not add them in the first place.
The reality is -- that in some locations - removing ANY emission control advice is against the law -- but getting caught not having it is not "illegal". In some cases you will not be able to register your car. Jurisdictions with progressive environmental laws -- such as CARB states, Scandinavia, Germany, etc. will definitely not allow you to register your vehicle if any factory-installed emissions device has been removed even if it does not cause an illuminated MIL.
Glad you came to your senses at the end. It was hard to watch but I got a laugh and I'm glad you had the guts to post it yourself.
I appreciate that man.
this is unfortunate, but even in lithuanian news page they write about your mishap, look at the bright side - you've become famous from this :D
Krawiakin Hahhaha no wayyy
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How can you jack your car up without even looking at what its pushing up on????
I put the jack under the jack puck. Cuz the car was on the rear ramps and my garage floor is not smooth and Has cracks so the jack didn't slide forward and it slid off the jack pad
Man as soon as I heard the cracking, I was like, "let it down, let it down"!!!!😭😭😭 I've been under my car 1000 times, and I get my ass under the car EACH time to LOOK where that jack is placed. I'm hurting for you bro, but you'll bounce back..
I know I wish the cracking sound lasted longer for 3 more seconds n I would of let it down
@@BulletsGarage
We live and learn bro..😥😥
Lmao this is why there are lift points for a reason. Gotta learn the hard and tragic way
A simple check of the car manual and a simple look under the car would have prevented this
@@ryans413 it looks like he was using a jack point. However he didn’t line it up quite right and was on the edge and the change in angle along with wheels on the jack made it slip off.
Omg So sorry this happened my man. Don’t worry you’ll be fine, it could’ve been a lot worse. When I seen this my jaw dropped. Poor F ☹️☹️☹️
Get it fixed and move on. And be more careful is all I can do
Bullets Garage Definitely bro, but fuck man this sucks ass, car was looking so F*** Clean. Glad your safe though and the Damage is not as bad as it looks. Could’ve been worse. Can’t wait to see it repaired again. Knowing you this should be fixed in a jiffy lol🔥🔥🔥🔥. Chris_isf
I see a lot of comments saying he needs to look at the contact point... Umm. How are you supposed to look at the contact point? He probably could have because he had those riser blocks, but I only have the jack and jack stands?
How else would I jack up my car? (serious question)
If you use the hockey puck with the groove in the middle into the factory jack point(pinch weld) it will never slide(stays locked in when you jack it up). Looks like you used the hockey puck on the ZL1 pinch weld pads and it slid right off. If you're going to use the ZL1 pinch weld pads I'd say don't use the hockey puck at all. Good luck with the repair.
You are absolutely right. That’s what happened. Gonna find a better way to jack this car up.
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@@BulletsGarage get a quickjack system and i made mistake of using a hockey puck and it costed me a new radiator cause my car slipped
the dog was smarter than this guy, it knew something was gonna go wrong and left, LOL
This is why I never do this now... based from experience. Does the GSF have a front or rear differential jacking point? Because pinch welds were never designed to be “jacked” up. The purpose is for lifts. With that being said I feel bad when people go to the tire shops and jack them up like in the video. Floor jacks with DESTROY pinch welds. Hope you can fix this soon
Gsf has the rear diff and front center cross member. But can’t get to the front cuz to low
It will not destroy a pinch weld if you get a hockey puck and put a slit in it.
Floor jack at the front center jack point (there's a crossmember spot between the wheels). Then put the jack stands at the jack points after. If car is too low, get low (about 1.5-2 inch thick) and decently long (3-4+ feet is good) wooden planks behind wheels and back the car up slowly onto them before using the jack. Make sure you have enough room for the jack points when you do the planks. Can do the planks behind the front wheels for about a foot first when backing before you put in the rear planks for rear wheels. Good luck!
Thanks. Man
Oh bro.... bro bro bro.... no. I feel every gram of your pain im so sorry this has happened.
Thanks man. It was more painful then giving birth lol
@@BulletsGarage i have a chrysler 300c that me and the ol man have worked on a fair amount. I have a two bob 2 tonne jack and jacking up is fine but coming back down there is always a bit of a thudd, shit my pants every time for the exact reason in your vid
I see everyone saying it didn't slip but it did. it was when you paused as you noticed something was wrong and as you pulled the handle up you accidentally moved the jack and it slipped. sucks but you'll bounce back. I feel your pain. I personally decided to let professionals work on my car because even though I "could" do it I'd rather have it done professionally and quickly compared to how long it would take me to do it. keep your head up. beautiful car
Thanks man
Aww man,this just crushed my heart to see this happen to such a nice ride.I sure hope that your insurance has you covered.I couldn't see the extent of the damage but the carbon fiber side skirt must cost a small fortune by itself.Good luck man,it can only get better after that one.
Thanks man it will be fixed
i'm sorry for what happen bro!, but at the end of the day, i'm glad you're safe and not getting hurt or worst lost of life by that thing fall on you.
Damn that sucks! I have an 07 GS350 AWD and I would have cried! Only tip I would recommend is to use the jack pucks or pads with the little slit in them that cradles the frame jacking point. Sorry man!
Good advice. I’ll do that
Dude blames jack. But is too lazy to properly position it in the first place. Nice one!
It was in the correct position
@@BulletsGarage obviously not genius.
Obviously it was. U don't know I'll make a follow up video
@@BulletsGarage your door and rocker panel think otherwise.
Bro just wait and see
I am speechless... Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Cracked jackpad. Happens more often then we know. They are only rated for so many uses. I usually just make my own with wood and toss them after 3 or 4 usage. Had 2 crack on me so far and luckily it didn't slide left or right instead it landed on the jack point but cracked the pad. The damage is fixable but it sucks to have that happen
They make permanent ones from aluminum with magnets to hold onto the pinch weld. They are cheap.
I am sick to my stomach. So sorry bro. Glad you didn't get hurt, it could have been worse. You could have lost some body parts or crushed to death, I sure it happens every year. Just hope insurance doesn't try to bang ya. Keep your head up.
Insurance has been good to me so far.
It does not look like you were under the pinch weld. However you should not use pinch welds with a floor jack. Pinch welds are for factory scissor jacks only. There are ways to use them using an adapter (ex a hockey puck with a channel cut where the pinch weld inserts into). Use a cross member when using a floor jack and consider using a 2x4 or bigger between jack and car to spread the pressure.
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Ouch! I feel the pain here! Your floor jack needs to roll ahead as it lifts and unfortunately it wasn't and it pulled it out and tipped your puck. Puck Puck PUCK !!! Sorry man
Yea that’s what happened sadly.
@@BulletsGarage The concrete floor has crack which prevent the floor jack from moving inward. that's what caused the problem.
It happened to me too but no damage luckily. My heart goes out to you
Man, I am gutted for you...the pain in your voice is really what did it to me. So sorry that happened, I am glad it didn't fall on you or your dog.
Maybe something to consider I use low profile race ramps that only lift the car 4" I drive the front up onto the race ramps set the parking brake and can jack the car from the transmission brace and then at the back from the differential, basically all the race ramps are for are to get the front of the car high enough I can get the low profile Jack far enough under without hitting anything. I'm working on a WRX I'm not sure if your GSF has alternate jack points like the differential and transmission brace like my car though.
Mine is from diff and front crossmember
The back wheels on the jack moving side way, or the cracks and holes on the concrete in front of the jack caused this . The jack needed to move forward when it lifted up the car. The distance between the jack and the car get longer as the jacked lifted the car higher. The jack needed to move forward to compensate the distance between the jack and the car.
Keep in mind if you go through the insurance it's going to be reported and it'll be public record when somebody pulls a Carfax it'll show that there's been damage on the car and you'll no longer have a clean record only way to avoid that is to fix it yourself out of pocket
It’s gonna be way to much out of pocket and plus I will have all the pics and proof of what’s been done. If I sell to a new owner. But I’m gonna keep the car for at least 10 years so I’m not concerned about the carfax
That's cool man if you're going to keep the car that long and you keep all the evidence then it shouldn't be that big of a deal, but I've seen in the past where something minor like that lowers the value of the car...... hope you get it fixed soon👍
We learn from others mistakes, if we are lucky. What really happened here is simple:
1) Jackpoint was engaged correctly and a puck was used.
2) Floor jack had its wheels perpendicular to car. < a mistake.
3) Floor jack raises BUT it is not rolling towards the car.
4) Car slips off puck or puck slips off floor jack.
What went wrong? Friction force needed to move/roll floor jack forward was greater than the friction force need to move puck off of floor jack or jack point.
Heart breaking but excellent video posted.
Oouuuuch!!! I feel so sad right now.. I hope you get it fixed asap bro.. sorry about this.
I know this video is 4 years old, but damn. I would absolutely be crushed. Are you able to claim something like this on your insurance?
Did they cover you? Was it covered under comprehensive?
Yes it was covered
Things happen all the time man. I've been watching these since you first post about the car and end up buying one. Don't give up just because of a mistake. Everybody makes them just pick yourself up and keep going. Your human and A holes going to give you hell but others like enjoy these video and learning as someone else is.
Thank you Adam. Really nice ok u to say that. Glad u enjoy the videos. How’s your gsf
Actually is in the shop right now I should be getting it back any day now so I know you're heartbreaking feeling all too well
Do you still have the Gsf I'm thinking of getting 1 I have a gs f sport awd. That's what's got me not sure about getting 1. They don't come in AWD and I live in Pennsylvania were it snows. But My other option was a LS. But I truly do want the GSf.
I’m selling my Gsf.
@Bullets Garage why you don't like it or did you have problems with it? Or u just need more power? What's next for your collection?
I rewatch this video before I work on my vehicle so I take my time.
lmao that good practice lol
I'm sorry. It's sucks but I think you could get it repaired if the frame is fine. At least you didn't get hurt, alot of people get seriously hurt when a car falls off a jack
Micah C yea it’s all getting fixed. The frame is fine. Just the door and side skirt getting replaced and painted.
The jacking up point for a garage or trolley jack is different to the one used by the jack that comes with the car.
Step 1, DELETE video.
Step 2, Hello Allstate, it was raining outside I went around a corner lost control and ran up on a curb.
Step 3, keep making awesome videos
Dam that hurt me bro I am sure everything will work out....
Lol no need to lie. Insurance covering it lol
Encouraging fraude, nice...
What how? Wtf
It did slip, but if you look closely the jacking point was on the very edge of the pad. Always make sure its centered.
Trust me now I'm super careful with it
@@BulletsGarage don't feel bad about it, can happen to anyone. At least you didn't hurt yourself and it wasn't a customers car. That was my biggest fear back when I worked at a shop.
These kinds of things happen more often than you might think, and the result can be lethal.
A skilled body shop can fix that door in no time anyways.
I always use wishbones to lift at the point they meet the subframe, I’ve never ever trusted side jacking points they look too weak. Go from an angle and get the wishbone support and it can take all the weight you need
just be happy it wasnt you under that car man. my jack failed today too but it wasnt nearly as bad i was using the jack that come with the car to adjust my ride height, and the fucking jack completly folded luckly i had a stand underneath to save the car from completely falling. but even now after 4-5 hours after the incident im still very shook up and im so greatful it wasnt me under there
This is why there's and entire industry of professionals who do this type of work.
Double jacks??? Stop the madness.
But at least you didn't get hurt.
lesson learned
I watched the video several time. I think the cracking noise was not from the car but from the ramp. Note that the ramp moves a bit coincident with the noise. Also note that the pads slip towards the front. I think it's because the car was on too much of a difference in an incline to start with and that he'd used two pucks. As the jack moves up more load was transferred to the front driver wheel causing it to sag and increasing the angle as well. The jack wants to stay flat relative to the ground leaving the pucks to adapt to the angle so the two pucks formed their own angle creating an off center load and slipped. The rear casters being at that angle doesn't help either. As the jack moves up in an arch, the caster should roll forward into the car but the casters at the back prevented this. When he moved the lever up getting ready to stop he might have gave it a little twist that caused the tipping point; puck slipping. Lesson learn....don't use two pucks and lift a small height at a time.
Nope
Sorry to see that happen? I can't wait until it is fixed. Keep your head up bro it is not your fault
Kinda my fault I was rushing I should have been more careful
@@BulletsGarage it is still a bad ass ride always
Painful to watch, but on the bright side nearly 2k subs! We all fuck up, you were just brave enough to share this minor disaster with us as a warning. Instead of secondary cat delete, get some headers for more power & a tad more volume..
Yea I wanted to post it so people are more careful so they don’t make the mistake I made. And headers will void my warranty that’s gonna have to wait till my coverage is done
My heart is bleeding and keep my fingers crossed that everything will be fine again.👨🔧👍
Thank you man !!
Off topic but where did you source your CF side skirts and mud flaps?
Sorry to see this. Thanks for sharing. You handled it really well. It is definitely a heart breaker. I agree, not enough clearance to work on the exhaust. Have you considered a quickjack? I love mine. I've change out the exhaust on my RC F twice and had plenty of room to work. It's so much more stable fully lifted instead of on stands.
Will look into quick jacks for sure
Dam! I feel ya bro! That's a sad day. I hope you get it back to 100 soon.
Thanks man.