Hasbro turned it into a hipster lifestyle brand. Just like Disney wants to turn StarWars into a girlboss brand. Both will crash and burn. And they deserve to lose ever bit of that money.
They're pandering to specifics, DnD was already open to anyone. I don't think this works, but whatever. Although as a business trying to get nonplayers interested is a good move, but not sure if it's effective. Nintendo did it during the Wii era
@@archabolt1446 Nintendo didn't do it with the Wii. The Wii was a fad that was dumped very quickly. Left to collect dust in the closet. After about two years, the system pretty much filtered out of being relevant.
I liked 3.5 yes you play monstrous characters but you get a level handicap because your op if leveled contemporary to the rest of the party. 5E: what's a racial modifier?
@@badmojo0777 ever heard of the writing advice of "flaws make a character "? Now look at DND 1 where there's no differences just all "variant human" with the drapings of others.
@@badmojo0777 A better question would be why change anything at all when it was fine to begin with? What was wrong with depicting a fantasy race as blood-thirsty, war-hungry monsters?
Modern dnd art just looks like cosplay in san diego. It no longer looks and feels like medieval fantasy, in a dangerous world full of mystery, where so much of the world was trying to kill or use you. Its no longer influenced by history or mythology - now its influenced by modern day social media.
@@animeboys8328 ah come on, it's full of furries and demi humans- with side shave haircuts and steampunk and purple hair. Just look at the old art and compare to the new. Love it or hate it, it's vastly different.
@@genghisgahan9623 yeah I know that people are acting like the things are acting like these kinda things can’t fit when when dnd is already by nature meant to be a chose your own adventure story
This is the woke equivalent of that. Everything hinges around "the message". They aren't making their ideology more appealing. They are ruining role-playing games.
Do you remember when the San Diego Comic Con was for comic book fans, and not the elitists in the entertainment industry? That's when it started. Since then, they have taken everything you loved and decided they are the true gatekeepers of it, not the fans. And by God, you will take what they feed you, or else you're a "toxic fan." See, they didn't take these things for the sake of love, they took them to exploit your discretionary income. But along the way, they got bored with actually making money and decided the great unwashed needed to be "educated" instead.
"DnD is a game for everyone. We want it to be inclusive and fun for everyone." "Okay ... I'm still a murder hobo. I just have a much much longer list of targets now."
@@cattrucker8257 Honestly would actually like a campaign like that. Having your "Hub area" being some sort of Fort/Dungeon/Village etc., that the goal is to build up over time.
Reminds me when our DM was running a campaign, one of the guys brought their new boyfriend to the game to learn. They didn't want to leave the tavern because they wanted to pick up an elf boy. DM destroyed the tavern as a result of a brawl starting just so we could progress the game. The boyfriend spent the rest of the game whining and pouting that the tavern couldn't be restored by magic. Next session they showed up with 'their' new rules they wanted added to the game. Their partner even told them to get some more experience under their belt before trying to impose new rules and then they can be a DM. The game was a mess with more pouting, whining and a fight between the couple. We stopped our gaming sessions for a while after that.
They want to sell to D&D tourists who just want to play a campaign once and never play it again. It’s like the suburban hipster who says to their friends “hey guys, we should totally start a D&D campaign”, and then proceed to post about it a million times on Instagram to show the rest of their millennial friends how funny and quirky they are.
@@rakedos9057 WOTC swears up and down that people like that are the people that buy most of their stuff in DnD and Magic... Im pretty sure they are liars.
@@quietinsound8087 ugh. I feel like that guy rn cuz I can't get anyone I know to play with me so I can get more DM experience before trying to play with strangers.
They're missing the point: Bad things have always existed in D&D, and all to the same point, that bad things exist so that the heroes can come in and stop it.
Orcs are the goblinoid race of peace! The Drow are oppressed by their surface-dwelling brethren! There is no objective good or evil and everything is morally-gray mush.
I had a player who insisted on playing handicapped. He shat all over his teammates, told them he didnt need them. He tried to solo an infernal. The infernal put him on a spit, roasted him and fed him to his hench orcs. Good times!
The wheelchair completely pulled me out of it. If I'm confined in a wheelchair, why the F#%@ would I want to be confined to a wheelchair in my fantasy? Are raider camps, dungeons, ancient ruins, jungles required to be wheelchair accessible now? Spoilers, if all villains need to do to defeat a pesky adventurer is to nott install a ramp, well, shit, their ain't gonna be a ramp.
Who knows? Maybe you could have a monster truck for a wheel chair? [Laughs maniacally as you run over hordes of Orcs with your "Steed" named "Bone Muncher".]
"I cast Regeneration to heal your spine, and Greater Restoration to skip the months of physical therapy. You can stop virtue signaling now." - Cleric Players.
The warrior on the red box is a man. 1) the original artist has said he drew a man. 2) they released an action figure a long time ago, it was a bearded bro. 3) it was the '80s... The warrior women wore chainmail bikinis, not full armor.
@@dm_dude yes it is warranted, not because the character was iconic or beloved, but because it is a clear indication that they are rewriting history. Retcons should be shunned. Culture should be protected.
@@DH-xw6jp mhm, yeah. Okay. Maybe I just don’t care enough for that warrior. But that is valid point. Maybe we shouldn’t retcon stuff, but also we are in a different age now. When new stuff is created, like the art in the phb, we all should be more accepting I think.
@@dm_dude I'll be more accepting the moment they stop being racist to white people and stop disrespecting the franchises I grew up with. Till then they can go bankrupt.
DnD nowadays appeal to people who loved Steven Universe or Life is Strange, which is why the fantasy is essentially a non-factor and you can feel the modern day oozing from every image.
@@sintanan469earlier 5E stuff is fine. At least the mechanics are and that's what I use. Though I borrow a bit from the eberron setting. (I love the concept of an advanced magic society that fell into a post apocalypse) But it really went downhill after 2019 or so.
I grew up in the 80's playing D&D. It was my escape, from high school, my parents, and all things in general. D&D was the greatest game ever! It was a game where friends could gather around a table and create our own adventures and stories and be the hero of our own story. After high school, I joined the Military, traveled the world, fought in war and D&D was with me every step of the way. I have many fond memories, many great adventures and stories. Wizards killed D&D and all the fun, all the adventure, to cater to a demographic that does not support or buy their products, much less play, just to push; "The agenda." I don't know anyone who plays D&D anymore. A sad commentary of such a great game
I don't have any skin in the tabletop game. But I can answer who it's for: 40+ urban, upper-middle class, white, liberal women. Just like they did with video games, Star Wars, Dr. Who, etc. They turned it into, as Duckman once put it, a steady diet of innocuous, childproof, flavourless mush.
The corporate version of colonialism.. "oh is this your culture? That won't do, we need to impose our thinking to make you acceptable... Oh are we selling off anything of value you had and forcing you to take me up our culture, until you have no culture of your own?"
It reeks if being ASTROTURFED into a "lifestyle brand" IN NAME ONLY, instead of ORGANICALLY GROWING into a lifestyle brand the way Lego, Batman, Spider-Man, and countless other IPs did.
cringe is cool! is fantasy. everyone else, its STILL cringe. and cringe isn't fun. the fantasy part is to play outside yourswlf into some characyer thats actually nom cringe. those developers still don't get it.
They soured the Milk of Fun with Wokeness to herd us back into the factory 9-9. No more Fun. For you see, having Fun means having Free Time and Imagination and that can lead to Revolutions.
"Aquired" is a nice way to say stolen. This is coming from the same group of people that think you shouldn't defend your physical property either, as it's being stolen.
This is why I will always say gatekeeping is not only necessary but a good thing. Tourists will destroy a hobby piece by piece by saying 'but it would be nice if you did this for me' until they've made everything for them and no one else.
@@KingZNIN wtf are you on about? You mean the fans that take what is given to them and love it? Rather than the tourists that think that putting their peanut butter in your chocolate is going to make things better but all the people that just like chocolate arent going to like it. Then we have the people that want to add marshmallows because that is their favorite or nuts or other things. GTFO of here you woke shill.
It's for queer theory enthusiast and feminist. All pride art depicts these utopian stock photo type scenerios where everyone is just grinning in glee all the time. I've literally become a master at identifying art created by women and gay dudes. All of it has these super happy perfect scenerios. Bright colors with lots of purple, pink, or green. Stock image uncannyness to the art.
I played D&D with friends as a teen in the 1980s on into the 90s. The original rules, dice tables, modules, & other supplements will always be out there. These woke hijackers can never corrupt the old rules
you can play the game at your table any way you chose so the REAL quesiton is why does it bother you? you cna make ASNY race evil for example, they jsut arent going to force that concept, no big deal, unless youre a right wing nutbag looking to confirm your bullshit
I’m honestly getting into Palladium Fantasy myself. Second edition came out in the 90s and Kevin stuck with it until now. It’s taken quite a while but the conversion to second edition for one of the sourcebooks (with additional content iirc) is coming out soonish. I will openly admit that all of Palladium’s games are hard to grok, but that’s because the layout is really bad. But once you understand the mechanics it’s actually a really good game.
@@barrybend7189 I have an entire book cabinet full of Pathfinder 1E content (Which is more like streamlined D&D 3rd edition, as it is 99% the same). It's pretty great! Its adventure paths do have the occasional hot lesbian couple, and female commanders, but overall it is more Liberitarian than leftist, as it also shows more conservative viewpoints and their validation. One Pathfinder Society adventure I once joined even had a few religious priests being attacked by extremist atheists. It still felt like D&D, as if they also wanted to make content for Conservatives, and with alignment put some effort into showing different sides on a delicate problem without invalidating one of them. Hence why I saved all those adventure paths and other Pathfinder content.
It would be one thing if they made their own shit and left us alone to make ours. But nope. Anything we like gets bashed as "bigoted, sexist, insert numerous overused ists and phobes here" and then ruined, or cancelled. But they can shove their degeneracy anywhere, even in the face of backlash from the real fanbases. It's all rather vomit inducing.
Exactly. Just like the bouncer at a club, you let in the people who are there to have fun and enjoy the hobbies and you keep out the people who want to change and destroy the hobbies.
They did it to warhammer recently. Didn't make a new game just said the custodes were always women.. fuckin lazy retcon. Not even add to the lore just take from the old and make it lame. Then call you an ist when you point to 30 odd years of lore and published works pointing out otherwise.
After promising nerds and social outcasts that taking DND would be a good thing, Wizards has turned the whole game over to the Tumblr crowd while forcing out the original fan base. You see, you still get to be the social outcast, but now you don't get to play DND.
@@jamindavey ya... minorities... if you know what that word means, especially its relevance to any successful business setting, you wouldn't be stupid enough to make a comment like this. Everyones aware that all types of people play DnD, jfc...
@@lilshawty2605 If representation wasn't necessary to enjoy the game, why are the cis white boys so mad they they aren't exclusively represented anymore?
Dungeon Master: The Orc has just mis-gendered you. Roll for a saving throw Player: Damn! I rolled a 1! Dungeon Master: Critical miss! You take 12D+6 emotional damage!
I hate this comment so much. Gave me ptsd to those nasty shows where moms turn their daughters to 'models' for weirdo judges to rate in hopes they win a crown.😂
@@watchmehope6560 Or that scene in "A Christmas Story" where the boy's aunt gave him that pink bunny suit. She got it because *she* liked it, not because he liked it.
@@watchmehope6560 You mean a pageant where the girls like to feel pretty and the moms get a little to invested in? That's not weird unless you make it out to be. Jeebus what's wrong with the world now?
As a bisexual I hate overly aggressive pushing for DEI and such. I firmly believe that stuffing LGBT characters into every page and propping them up constantly has done more to erode LGBT acceptance than any genuinely homophobic propaganda could have hoped for. That being said, I also belive instead of moving hobbies the right answer is to play by older editions and with lore changes that are clearly DEI in nature to just flat out treat them as non-canon.
I mean if you think about it, TSR was brought down by a CEO (Lorraine Williams) who didnt understand D&D and hated it. Flash forward 30 years later and the same thing is happening again. D&D is in the hands of people who hate it and its beginning to tank.
It used to be a power fantasy choose-your-own-adventure for nerds. Now it's for gay dwarves that'd rather be baking than dungeon delving. Well, outside the bedroom.
@@RogueFox2185 who pirate everything, anyways, because "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism", and who only comprise a relatively small percentage of the population. Now, THAT'S smart business practice, WOTC! lulz.
Board games, comic books, TV shows, movies... This is what happens when modern creatives take charge of a respected brand with nothing but contempt and disregard for the legacy and its fans.
I love 2nd ed AD&D! I didn't like everything about it (like ThAC0), but they put so much heart and soul into it and gave you so much for your money. The Complete 's Handbooks, the extra splatbooks on all kinds of topics, and the fact that they didn't impress a style of play or demand you play their way...
Maybe being all inclusive isn't such a good thing after all... because now they don't know who to market their product to. Dungeons and Dragons was always meant to be about grand adventures. What kind of adventures can you have with this?
Probably running revenge campaigns against people who they felt slighted them in real life like the person that didn't want to go to prom with them in highschool or their 'evil' landlord
@@Tony_409 Or their boss who didn't promote them directly to a six-figure salary when they're working at Starbucks, or their dad who doesn't use their preferred pronouns when speaking to them, or the straight men who won't date them because they're straight men. There's a long, long list of targets for petty revenge, and that's about all they really have to get them up in the morning.
Being INCLUSIVE is a bad thing. It inherently implies you're willing to make changes to whatever your product is to appeal to people your product doesn't appeal to. Like imagine if you make a really good hand cream, but you change the formula so it also works on feet, making it worse for your hands, so you can appeal to people that don't have hands, so you can be inclusive. If you create a product and there are certain people it doesn't appeal to, don't fucking change your product unless it's FAILING. It's appealing to NOBODY that would be a problem, if you're doing well in the hand cream market, fuck foot cream, you're not sellin that. DnD is the same, they keep fucking with the formula to encompass other shit, that it's getting worse and worse at the thing it's SUPPOSED to be doing.
A battle wheel chair. God, that’s so stupid. That’s like me, an overweight man in his late 50s. Someone that looks like me is the LAST type of character I would want to play in D&D. This “look MA! Me too!” mentality is just moronic.
The quest is to file lawsuits in order to make ableist Bad Guys make wheelchair-accessible dungeons.. "I cast ... Social Media Campaign using my Staff of Righteous Indignation. My character is a hexadeximal-gendered, multi-hue, unemployed, quadriplegic, trauma survivor with non-understanding parents, giving me +8 on my victim bonus!"
@@bejammin2000 Initially my plan was to review the latest edition and include what I thought was interesting. Now I'm thinking we're going to stay a strict 5e (2014) table. Though I have to admit, DC20 is looking really, really interesting.
@@bejammin2000 The battle wheelchair is supposed to be a virtue signal to foster inclusion of disabled people. I've never needed it before to include such people. Besides that, someone who is wheelchair bound might want a walking or even flying character, not...a wheeelchair bound one... It's like labels and groups, "you are x? you must pair up with x stereotype". Well, reality tells us that diversity doesn't require labels or stereotypes.
D&D gives powers based on backstory. It's for fired Hollywood types that can no longer get their self-inserts into regular entertainment. It's for the "modern audience". Me, I'll just stick with 3.5e or so. If that.
In 2018 we played our last 1st Edition AD&D game. We switched to 5th edition. This was so we could play at conventions again. We have played 5th for 6 years. Only two people in the group purchased Players Handbook, DMG, and Monster Manual. My son got me Xander’s Guide for my birthday. My daughter bought me some cool dice. And that is it. We can keep playing 5th until we don’t want to too. But they are not getting any more money out of us. I’m currently working on converting the 3rd edition Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. I have books and models from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd edition. The only 5th model I have it the Saltmarsh, because we played that thing to death in 1st edition. Figured it would be a good conversion learning lesson. I used to run Adventure League at a games shop but have stopped. WotC have killer Adventure League modules. So, I was having to deal with the ever changing rules from D&D Beyond. So, I’ve semi retired from DMing at the game shop. I still have my home game and that is enough for me and my friends.
Puking at the last Orc illustration for D&D 2024. First for the stupid attempt to response to the blind racists saying Orcs are black men, and Second for picturing a race of raiders like gardeners. Next will be Drows, I'm sure of it. WoTC will erase all the evil in the fictional world. There will be no need to go in an adventure and save the world.
THAC0 was a mess and a horror to understand for newcomers but i would begin to miss it if i had to play their latest edition. By pure luck, i have enough old material for the rest of my lifetime and i won't need to buy their crap.
Love how normal it's become to accept the phrase and ideology of "it's inclusive to get rid of XYZ" If inclusivity is designed to be exclusive, then it is not - by definition - inclusive.
I started back in the late 80's gamed all through the 90's, then life happened and the group had other things that took up our time. I few years back I looked for a table but nothing was recognizable any longer. Oh well, good memories at least.
If you think the Red Box is the gold standard for getting into rpgs (and I got in using it too), you should definitely check the Dragonbane boxed set. Now that’s gold standard.
They are all doing the same thing pandering to a group of people who do not give a crap about their product and, at the same time, dumping on those who loved their product in the past and now hate it. In the end, they end up losing more and more money to the point that the company has to file for protection and then fire the board and everyone to get new people in to save them when they should not be going this way to start with.
DnDBeyond was the first DnDApp which broke me. It basically was a "Buy the books again, Pay to make characters, App still isn't fixed BUT YOU NEED IT NOW!!!" Players don't even know how to read their damn APP Charactersheets let alone the ones they print out. I have always felt that unless you write it down the way you understand how your skills work. You will never understand what and where your features/abilities come from...
@@skunkybudtoker9092 It's almost like you think there's a bunch of hedonists who think they should be able to do anything without consequences but rail anyone else when they feel uncomfortable.
@@robinmohamedally7587 There's maybe a little more than ten of us lol A lot more than that, actually. And that's just those of us who are comfortable even being out.
Decades ago when I played, we didn't have this thing called "back stories". You were a fighter, wizard or whatever, and your job was to coordinate with the other people in your party to slaughter as many monsters in as varied scenarios as possible until something was saved or the big boss got killed. The whole "role playing" thing was very minimal except as it involved interacting with some NPC who could give you information, a necessary item or a job. On rare occasions would a PC talk to an intelligent and powerful monster to avoid a fight. While I admit that Matt Mercer's D&D and his party of professional actors was entertaining to watch, to me that wasn't D&D. That was just a group of real life entertainers putting on a show. And this is now what they're turning the game into? Much like Disney, let's see how much money they can waste until they crash and burn.
The thing that makes me sad is knowing that I have friends that support this trash. I have one friend, in specific, who has played D&D since he was 5 in the 80s. Played it with his dad & uncles & all. He still supports this shit. He even defends these garbage people calling the old school shit racist & race-bending established characters & all. I just don't understand it.
I'm not a tabletop gamer but as a huge fan of video game RPGs, I have a lot of respect for DnD influencing the genre. It's a shame what happened to it.
The bad thing is, the activists who have infiltrated these brands and franchises win no matter what. Either they manage to transform everything to their liking, or they manage to successfully bury another "source of toxic masculinity" and ruin the company and it goes bankrupt. Either way, it's a win for them.
While I agree posturing is annoying and D&D isn’t about being nice, at its core. It clearly has changed. And their sales numbers will say it all. You say at one point that many think WotC brought D&D down into the ground, but that’s not true, from their standpoint. They have a healthy brand that’s selling like it never did before. One D&D will be the test, or the survey, if you will. If it sells as well as 5e did, that will validate them and they will keep making D&D friendly and cute.
Even the art is dumb. Tatooing someone’s beard what?? That changes in a week that’s not even thought out. It’s literally for no one bc even the gays know that doesn’t make sense. It’s too far
Well on one hand. DnD when it was made was played by 0.5% of the population. On the other, for some reason WoC chose a new 0.5% who routinely don’t support things catering to them.
I miss good old DnD. In high school my friends and I would play it all the time. I wish these companies would stop ruining perfectly good IPs with BS diversity.
I DM'd a DND session yesterday and i do not even have the players handbook. Buying their stuff is purely depending on my good will and they go out of their way to tell me that they hate me based on my skin colour.
My first character was "Silver" a female thief. My friend and I played through the very first sample dungeon at the end of the red book. I remember being so shocked when the antagonist magic missile kills the cleric NPC in the dungeon. I was hooked that was 35 years ago. I have not played D&D since 2nd edition. I probably will not.
It ain’t even their own unimaginative version but a stale and superficial one they were drip fed by their gurus, who also sold them on the lie that the corpos care about the stuff they peddle.
I got into D&D some years ago after being invited by a friend who DMs. After following this news via your videos for the last few years, I understand more and more why he always makes up his own campaigns and deviates from official rules and lore.
Should have never let the theatre kids come to the table, we used to have to tell our theatre kid to just shut up or he'd spend the whole time just babbling about his characters backstory and constantly trying to force the DM away from the planned module into some crap related to his uncle or something. Well then there was the other, the thief that thought RP'ing was just stealing from everyone, party included, which caused our game group to just break up cuz fuck that dude.
Nah it was women, snowflakes, normies, gays, hipsters. Basically anyone I don't like. Fuck, even D&Ders ruined D&D. Damned D&Ders... *shakes fist angrily* 🥱🥱
DnD allows people to do things they can’t do in the real world. So it’s been taken over by people who can’t hold a job, be some what interesting, or productive in the real world
My oldest son and I played free RPG Day at a local comic shop today. The GM had an incredible setup with a castle he made that took up half the table. Slaying a plenty today. Now my oldest son is setting up a campaign for his younger brother’s birthday. I’m excited to see what he does. The game is going to be just fine! As long as there are those out in the wild who teach the youngsters how D&D is meant to be played.
Bob Iger; it is all being done for Bob Iger.... They are hoping if they push 'the message' hard enough that disney will buy them out because their business is failing hard and Hasbro has had enough of losing money so DnD and all those working on it are on the verge of losing all their jobs.
16:30 It's not just "gone". Gone you could look fondly back on as the good old days. It was destroyed. And now there's a dancing corpse to constantly remind you just how bad it's gotten
This started a long time ago. GenCon with the first year of third edition I got stuck with a family of half orcs who didn't want to fight orcs in the game. They even went as far as to try to restrain my character from defending the other NPCs from the rampaging orcs...
There are so many other options for good gaming corporate D&D doesn't even need to be on your radar. The OSR alone has literally over 100 options and more gameable material than a person could play in their lifetime. There's no reason to give anything but derision and disregard to WotC and their slop.
Hasbro turned it into a hipster lifestyle brand. Just like Disney wants to turn StarWars into a girlboss brand. Both will crash and burn. And they deserve to lose ever bit of that money.
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They're pandering to specifics, DnD was already open to anyone. I don't think this works, but whatever. Although as a business trying to get nonplayers interested is a good move, but not sure if it's effective.
Nintendo did it during the Wii era
Not just non players, but NPCs. The brand has gone from heroic fantasy to the Bakers in the background for the NPCs to insert themselves in.
@@archabolt1446 Nintendo didn't do it with the Wii. The Wii was a fad that was dumped very quickly. Left to collect dust in the closet. After about two years, the system pretty much filtered out of being relevant.
I'm a hipster and even I don't want to touch this garbage.
" we changed monstrous races to make POC more comfortable" they may really want to rethink that position
I liked 3.5 yes you play monstrous characters but you get a level handicap because your op if leveled contemporary to the rest of the party.
5E: what's a racial modifier?
@@badmojo0777Careful with that gaslighting.😂
@@badmojo0777 ever heard of the writing advice of "flaws make a character "? Now look at DND 1 where there's no differences just all "variant human" with the drapings of others.
@@badmojo0777 A better question would be why change anything at all when it was fine to begin with? What was wrong with depicting a fantasy race as blood-thirsty, war-hungry monsters?
@@badmojo0777why did it bother you enough to change it in the first place?
Modern dnd art just looks like cosplay in san diego.
It no longer looks and feels like medieval fantasy, in a dangerous world full of mystery, where so much of the world was trying to kill or use you.
Its no longer influenced by history or mythology - now its influenced by modern day social media.
That's literally not true
You’re huffing paint 💀
@@animeboys8328 ah come on, it's full of furries and demi humans- with side shave haircuts and steampunk and purple hair.
Just look at the old art and compare to the new.
Love it or hate it, it's vastly different.
@@genghisgahan9623 yeah I know that people are acting like the things are acting like these kinda things can’t fit when when dnd is already by nature meant to be a chose your own adventure story
DnD5e are just the rules, you can make whatever you want with it. You can play Dark Fantasy or even Cyberpunk with the DnD5e rules.
Even jehovahs witness literature isn't THAT cringey
At this point, Jack Chick tracts are not as cringy as OneDnD.
This is the woke equivalent of that. Everything hinges around "the message".
They aren't making their ideology more appealing. They are ruining role-playing games.
The Jehovah’s Witness creation story reminds me of Record of Ragnarok, NGL
Do you remember when the San Diego Comic Con was for comic book fans, and not the elitists in the entertainment industry? That's when it started. Since then, they have taken everything you loved and decided they are the true gatekeepers of it, not the fans. And by God, you will take what they feed you, or else you're a "toxic fan." See, they didn't take these things for the sake of love, they took them to exploit your discretionary income. But along the way, they got bored with actually making money and decided the great unwashed needed to be "educated" instead.
"DnD is a game for everyone. We want it to be inclusive and fun for everyone."
"Okay ... I'm still a murder hobo. I just have a much much longer list of targets now."
That actually sounds fun Lmao
@@specimenlarry6068 D&D gradually becoming first-person Dungeon Keeper
Sign me up for that campaign! Let me get my Bastard Sword.
@@V2011FI'll start sharpening my Sonuvabitch sword. It's vorpal.
@@cattrucker8257 Honestly would actually like a campaign like that. Having your "Hub area" being some sort of Fort/Dungeon/Village etc., that the goal is to build up over time.
“Who the f*** is D&D for?” Gay hipster baristas from Portland? 🤔
It's not for paying customers anymore, that's for sure.
It’s for posers.
Maine or Oregon?
Why not both?@@wesmcinerny4524
their wife's boyfriend?
As a straight white male I left as soon as they told me to.
Me too, it is important to look for consent when giving away money.
I hear ya bro. Been playing the older rules for quite a while now. Not really planning on buying any of the new stuff.
No, we should have said; "Fuck you, we're not going, you're going..."
I hope you didn't drop any coins off that wagon of cash you were willing to part with as you left.
@@Gangrel442003 I often not regret not gate keeping harder.
The best thing about D&D is you can ignore all the new books and play Pathfinder
Pathfinder is just as bad, they are just behind wizards.
Bro pozzfinder was woke from day 1. Wtf are you talking about
@@icetroll00 fine. Then play D&D ver 3
@@Gaz4113 why? Because it has a halfling with a bastard sword on the cover?
@@therealtijuanaman nah, I'm playing OSR
Reminds me when our DM was running a campaign, one of the guys brought their new boyfriend to the game to learn. They didn't want to leave the tavern because they wanted to pick up an elf boy. DM destroyed the tavern as a result of a brawl starting just so we could progress the game. The boyfriend spent the rest of the game whining and pouting that the tavern couldn't be restored by magic.
Next session they showed up with 'their' new rules they wanted added to the game. Their partner even told them to get some more experience under their belt before trying to impose new rules and then they can be a DM. The game was a mess with more pouting, whining and a fight between the couple. We stopped our gaming sessions for a while after that.
The gheys trying to make everything about cornholing something?
That never happens
Relationships have killed almost every table I've ever been a part of.
They want to sell to D&D tourists who just want to play a campaign once and never play it again. It’s like the suburban hipster who says to their friends “hey guys, we should totally start a D&D campaign”, and then proceed to post about it a million times on Instagram to show the rest of their millennial friends how funny and quirky they are.
Who also put the books and box on their shelves so they can show their friends they are hip even though they will never play it again.
Which must be way less than 10% of the actual customers.
@@rakedos9057 WOTC swears up and down that people like that are the people that buy most of their stuff in DnD and Magic... Im pretty sure they are liars.
@@quietinsound8087 ugh. I feel like that guy rn cuz I can't get anyone I know to play with me so I can get more DM experience before trying to play with strangers.
The beards on those Dwarves breaks OSHA code because their hair could contaminate the food.
Probably a fire hazard, too.
@@Msoulwing Maybe not considering how many of them still have beards in the forge.
It's fine, OSHA is a lesbian star wars incest twin now, so don't even worry about it.
Surprised they didn't have them wearing N95 masks
If you’re eating dwarf bread, you’re doing dwarf bread wrong.
They're missing the point: Bad things have always existed in D&D, and all to the same point, that bad things exist so that the heroes can come in and stop it.
Orcs are the goblinoid race of peace! The Drow are oppressed by their surface-dwelling brethren!
There is no objective good or evil and everything is morally-gray mush.
(Protip: they want everything to be morally-gray mush in fiction because it's clear where they stand on the good/evil dichotomy in real life.)
Is it really so bad if so many ask for it?
Nobody asked for this. It's in their heads.
There's bad idea: cringe
And then there's bad idea: malice toward audience
I had a player who insisted on playing handicapped. He shat all over his teammates, told them he didnt need them.
He tried to solo an infernal.
The infernal put him on a spit, roasted him and fed him to his hench orcs.
Good times!
The wheelchair completely pulled me out of it. If I'm confined in a wheelchair, why the F#%@ would I want to be confined to a wheelchair in my fantasy? Are raider camps, dungeons, ancient ruins, jungles required to be wheelchair accessible now? Spoilers, if all villains need to do to defeat a pesky adventurer is to nott install a ramp, well, shit, their ain't gonna be a ramp.
Who knows? Maybe you could have a monster truck for a wheel chair?
[Laughs maniacally as you run over hordes of Orcs with your "Steed" named "Bone Muncher".]
"I cast Regeneration to heal your spine, and Greater Restoration to skip the months of physical therapy. You can stop virtue signaling now." - Cleric Players.
The warrior on the red box is a man.
1) the original artist has said he drew a man.
2) they released an action figure a long time ago, it was a bearded bro.
3) it was the '80s... The warrior women wore chainmail bikinis, not full armor.
Do we really care that much about it? Was the back of this one character such an icon that this big a wave is warranted?
@@dm_dude yes it is warranted, not because the character was iconic or beloved, but because it is a clear indication that they are rewriting history.
Retcons should be shunned. Culture should be protected.
@@DH-xw6jp mhm, yeah. Okay. Maybe I just don’t care enough for that warrior. But that is valid point. Maybe we shouldn’t retcon stuff, but also we are in a different age now. When new stuff is created, like the art in the phb, we all should be more accepting I think.
@@dm_dude I'll be more accepting the moment they stop being racist to white people and stop disrespecting the franchises I grew up with. Till then they can go bankrupt.
@@dm_dude Found the audience Sensitive D&D's appealing to.
when it's "for everyone" it's not for anyone
Just like most "entertainment" now.
DnD nowadays appeal to people who loved Steven Universe or Life is Strange, which is why the fantasy is essentially a non-factor and you can feel the modern day oozing from every image.
If I wanted DnD in modern style I'd play D20 modern.
They only play ipad 😵💫
WotC already did modern day D&D in 5e. Magic school, prom, and players getting jobs as baristas in their downtime between wizard classes.
Modernity is a form of fantasy if you think about it.
@@sintanan469earlier 5E stuff is fine. At least the mechanics are and that's what I use. Though I borrow a bit from the eberron setting. (I love the concept of an advanced magic society that fell into a post apocalypse) But it really went downhill after 2019 or so.
Step 1 - "It's not FOR you!" Step 2 - "WHY DIDN'T YOU BUY OUR PRODUCT?"
Every damn time lol
I grew up in the 80's playing D&D. It was my escape, from high school, my parents, and all things in general. D&D was the greatest game ever! It was a game where friends could gather around a table and create our own adventures and stories and be the hero of our own story. After high school, I joined the Military, traveled the world, fought in war and D&D was with me every step of the way. I have many fond memories, many great adventures and stories. Wizards killed D&D and all the fun, all the adventure, to cater to a demographic that does not support or buy their products, much less play, just to push; "The agenda." I don't know anyone who plays D&D anymore. A sad commentary of such a great game
I don't have any skin in the tabletop game. But I can answer who it's for: 40+ urban, upper-middle class, white, liberal women. Just like they did with video games, Star Wars, Dr. Who, etc. They turned it into, as Duckman once put it, a steady diet of innocuous, childproof, flavourless mush.
They have no talent and they ruin everything. It's been all downhill since the 19th amendment.
These people aren't known for making things childproof, they make things to sexualize and push perversion on minors.
you forgot the american adjective
@fredEVOIX it's only happening in America because they want to destroy America.
It's also for people who can't figure out what constitutes a boy or a girl.
"The modern audience."
Funny how nobody seems to know who they are or when these people will start to spend money on all these things made for them.
Where is this _moredeath audience_ they don't buy anything !!! 😂
Never, they are all broke.
*Modern audience* = doesn’t exist.
@@DieselRamcharger All that hair dye has to cost a fortune.
They are hoping that after you become demoralized enough, you'll just give up your principles and conform.
The corporate version of colonialism.. "oh is this your culture? That won't do, we need to impose our thinking to make you acceptable... Oh are we selling off anything of value you had and forcing you to take me up our culture, until you have no culture of your own?"
This reeks of it being turned into a LIFESTYLE BRAND.
They literally want that. They've said as much.
They have gone full Harley Davidson.
too late
they are already making clothing and other stuff for normies that don't know what any of D&D is
It reeks if being ASTROTURFED into a "lifestyle brand" IN NAME ONLY, instead of ORGANICALLY GROWING into a lifestyle brand the way Lego, Batman, Spider-Man, and countless other IPs did.
Its for them now, not us.
They literally took what we loved away and laughed in our faces while ruining it
Ehm, I 🤔 think it's for US.
DARTH JOURNALIST, don't play AD&D 🫠
cringe is cool! is fantasy.
everyone else, its STILL cringe. and cringe isn't fun.
the fantasy part is to play outside yourswlf into some characyer thats actually nom cringe.
those developers still don't get it.
They soured the Milk of Fun with Wokeness to herd us back into the factory 9-9. No more Fun. For you see, having Fun means having Free Time and Imagination and that can lead to Revolutions.
Let them take it to the bank.
Just like how Disney Channel is only for girls.
Answer:
*It’s for no one. They can’t get anything right so it’s all made up with no direction that makes any sense whatsoever*
No I am pretty sure it's for gay race communists....
Very bold statement
"Aquired" is a nice way to say stolen. This is coming from the same group of people that think you shouldn't defend your physical property either, as it's being stolen.
This is why I will always say gatekeeping is not only necessary but a good thing.
Tourists will destroy a hobby piece by piece by saying 'but it would be nice if you did this for me' until they've made everything for them and no one else.
Like what you guys do
@@KingZNINsomething they change to make for everyone ends up becoming something for no one. A lot of niche’s die or rebrand like this.
@@KingZNIN wtf are you on about? You mean the fans that take what is given to them and love it? Rather than the tourists that think that putting their peanut butter in your chocolate is going to make things better but all the people that just like chocolate arent going to like it. Then we have the people that want to add marshmallows because that is their favorite or nuts or other things. GTFO of here you woke shill.
It's for queer theory enthusiast and feminist. All pride art depicts these utopian stock photo type scenerios where everyone is just grinning in glee all the time. I've literally become a master at identifying art created by women and gay dudes. All of it has these super happy perfect scenerios. Bright colors with lots of purple, pink, or green. Stock image uncannyness to the art.
I played D&D with friends as a teen in the 1980s on into the 90s. The original rules, dice tables, modules, & other supplements will always be out there. These woke hijackers can never corrupt the old rules
I have an entire collection of 3rd edition in PDF form. Preserved from the Trove. I don't need 5e or newer.
you can play the game at your table any way you chose so the REAL quesiton is why does it bother you? you cna make ASNY race evil for example, they jsut arent going to force that concept, no big deal, unless youre a right wing nutbag looking to confirm your bullshit
Print or buy these old books, and preserve them for future generations.
I’m honestly getting into Palladium Fantasy myself. Second edition came out in the 90s and Kevin stuck with it until now. It’s taken quite a while but the conversion to second edition for one of the sourcebooks (with additional content iirc) is coming out soonish.
I will openly admit that all of Palladium’s games are hard to grok, but that’s because the layout is really bad. But once you understand the mechanics it’s actually a really good game.
@@barrybend7189 I have an entire book cabinet full of Pathfinder 1E content (Which is more like streamlined D&D 3rd edition, as it is 99% the same). It's pretty great! Its adventure paths do have the occasional hot lesbian couple, and female commanders, but overall it is more Liberitarian than leftist, as it also shows more conservative viewpoints and their validation. One Pathfinder Society adventure I once joined even had a few religious priests being attacked by extremist atheists. It still felt like D&D, as if they also wanted to make content for Conservatives, and with alignment put some effort into showing different sides on a delicate problem without invalidating one of them. Hence why I saved all those adventure paths and other Pathfinder content.
i just dont get why 'everything' has to be gay or at the very least pussified now
What about all this “femspeaking” in EVERYTHING including the MILITARY?
Because women and effeminate men are in charge now.
That's wrongspeak
To bring women into the hobby. Boys play army and war games naturally, girls play dolls and house naturally
It would be one thing if they made their own shit and left us alone to make ours. But nope. Anything we like gets bashed as "bigoted, sexist, insert numerous overused ists and phobes here" and then ruined, or cancelled. But they can shove their degeneracy anywhere, even in the face of backlash from the real fanbases.
It's all rather vomit inducing.
And this is why you gatekeep
Exactly. Just like the bouncer at a club, you let in the people who are there to have fun and enjoy the hobbies and you keep out the people who want to change and destroy the hobbies.
They did it to warhammer recently. Didn't make a new game just said the custodes were always women.. fuckin lazy retcon. Not even add to the lore just take from the old and make it lame. Then call you an ist when you point to 30 odd years of lore and published works pointing out otherwise.
WotC watched The Big Bang Theory and they think that is their target demographic now.
Like most of the franchises ruined of late, mauled by shills that shit on the shoulders of giants.
After promising nerds and social outcasts that taking DND would be a good thing, Wizards has turned the whole game over to the Tumblr crowd while forcing out the original fan base. You see, you still get to be the social outcast, but now you don't get to play DND.
You might be shocked to discover that there are a whole lot of nerds and outcasts who aren't straight white cis men.
@@jamindavey ya... minorities... if you know what that word means, especially its relevance to any successful business setting, you wouldn't be stupid enough to make a comment like this. Everyones aware that all types of people play DnD, jfc...
@@jamindaveyyou gotta be straight, white, and cis to enjoy orcs and dragons😂 the game was already so flexible, it says alot that this wasn’t enough.
@@lilshawty2605 If representation wasn't necessary to enjoy the game, why are the cis white boys so mad they they aren't exclusively represented anymore?
@@jamindavey my question to them is: why couldn't you make up your own gay stories without insisting that the whole brand change to suit a minority?
Dungeon Master: The Orc has just mis-gendered you. Roll for a saving throw
Player: Damn! I rolled a 1!
Dungeon Master: Critical miss! You take 12D+6 emotional damage!
I use my Luck point, my 1 now identifies as a 20.
Psychic damage
@@owenblount7334 emotional_damage.gif
Love this. Spot on.
Better cast safe space
This is like that great aunt who bought high heels for her 3 y/o niece; it was a gift for herself while pretending it was for someone else.
I hate this comment so much. Gave me ptsd to those nasty shows where moms turn their daughters to 'models' for weirdo judges to rate in hopes they win a crown.😂
@@watchmehope6560 Or that scene in "A Christmas Story" where the boy's aunt gave him that pink bunny suit. She got it because *she* liked it, not because he liked it.
@@watchmehope6560 pdffiles and child abusers, all that lot
@@watchmehope6560 You mean a pageant where the girls like to feel pretty and the moms get a little to invested in? That's not weird unless you make it out to be. Jeebus what's wrong with the world now?
@@dretchlord873 maybe back in the day. Now, "got too invested in" is an understatement
If Gary Gygax knew what "D&D" would be like in 2024 he probably would have gone back to fixing shoes. 😢
As a bisexual I hate overly aggressive pushing for DEI and such. I firmly believe that stuffing LGBT characters into every page and propping them up constantly has done more to erode LGBT acceptance than any genuinely homophobic propaganda could have hoped for. That being said, I also belive instead of moving hobbies the right answer is to play by older editions and with lore changes that are clearly DEI in nature to just flat out treat them as non-canon.
It's now for the assholes who made fun of us for liking this stuff in school.
"No offense to Portland..." Oh no. No no no. Much offense to Portland. Minecraft that city.
Nah, reduce that city to pixels. Minecraft is too light a sentence
The warrior from the red box set was definitely not female. Everybody knows that a female warrior's armor would have been much skimpier than that.
also, the guy who drew it in the first place said it was intended to be a man
Not only that, he said that of course it was a man and that the way he was drawing women, there would not have been a question about it.
the fighter is definitely male. you see this same guy on the other covers by larry elmore.
I mean if you think about it, TSR was brought down by a CEO (Lorraine Williams) who didnt understand D&D and hated it. Flash forward 30 years later and the same thing is happening again. D&D is in the hands of people who hate it and its beginning to tank.
Kathleen Kennedy vibes
@@SammaclauseGamgee 100%
Clearly those dwarves aren't gay, one is actually a woman. All dwarves have beards!
Nice try.
It used to be a power fantasy choose-your-own-adventure for nerds. Now it's for gay dwarves that'd rather be baking than dungeon delving. Well, outside the bedroom.
Funny how that subgenre exists. Cozy fantasy. They need to go there and stay there. Leave our power/ sword and sorcery alone.
Gross.
😂😂😂
@@redcat9436 So true
those dwarves definitely like fudge
The usual ......
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create bad games !!! .”
there isn't a lot of men left in WoTC, the time to blame women was 10 years ago
'Who the F*ck is even even for now?' is a contender for question of the year (decade...?).
For the century my friend.😑
It’s for the mythical “modern audience” now.
@@RogueFox2185 who pirate everything, anyways, because "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism", and who only comprise a relatively small percentage of the population. Now, THAT'S smart business practice, WOTC! lulz.
Board games, comic books, TV shows, movies... This is what happens when modern creatives take charge of a respected brand with nothing but contempt and disregard for the legacy and its fans.
I love 2nd ed AD&D! I didn't like everything about it (like ThAC0), but they put so much heart and soul into it and gave you so much for your money. The Complete 's Handbooks, the extra splatbooks on all kinds of topics, and the fact that they didn't impress a style of play or demand you play their way...
Maybe being all inclusive isn't such a good thing after all... because now they don't know who to market their product to. Dungeons and Dragons was always meant to be about grand adventures. What kind of adventures can you have with this?
Probably running revenge campaigns against people who they felt slighted them in real life like the person that didn't want to go to prom with them in highschool or their 'evil' landlord
They're not even being inclusive. They just replace one thing for another while being exclusive.
government approved campaigns with politically correct messaging.
@@Tony_409 Or their boss who didn't promote them directly to a six-figure salary when they're working at Starbucks, or their dad who doesn't use their preferred pronouns when speaking to them, or the straight men who won't date them because they're straight men. There's a long, long list of targets for petty revenge, and that's about all they really have to get them up in the morning.
Being INCLUSIVE is a bad thing. It inherently implies you're willing to make changes to whatever your product is to appeal to people your product doesn't appeal to.
Like imagine if you make a really good hand cream, but you change the formula so it also works on feet, making it worse for your hands, so you can appeal to people that don't have hands, so you can be inclusive.
If you create a product and there are certain people it doesn't appeal to, don't fucking change your product unless it's FAILING. It's appealing to NOBODY that would be a problem, if you're doing well in the hand cream market, fuck foot cream, you're not sellin that.
DnD is the same, they keep fucking with the formula to encompass other shit, that it's getting worse and worse at the thing it's SUPPOSED to be doing.
A battle wheel chair. God, that’s so stupid.
That’s like me, an overweight man in his late 50s. Someone that looks like me is the LAST type of character I would want to play in D&D. This “look MA! Me too!” mentality is just moronic.
The quest is to file lawsuits in order to make ableist Bad Guys make wheelchair-accessible dungeons..
"I cast ... Social Media Campaign using my Staff of Righteous Indignation. My character is a hexadeximal-gendered, multi-hue, unemployed, quadriplegic, trauma survivor with non-understanding parents, giving me +8 on my victim bonus!"
@@jont3295 So brave - you get inspiration. So courageous - roll at advantage.
Don't sleep on the battle wheelchair. It is probably better then walking in every way. You'd be stupid not to use it.
@@bejammin2000 Initially my plan was to review the latest edition and include what I thought was interesting. Now I'm thinking we're going to stay a strict 5e (2014) table. Though I have to admit, DC20 is looking really, really interesting.
@@bejammin2000 The battle wheelchair is supposed to be a virtue signal to foster inclusion of disabled people. I've never needed it before to include such people.
Besides that, someone who is wheelchair bound might want a walking or even flying character, not...a wheeelchair bound one...
It's like labels and groups, "you are x? you must pair up with x stereotype". Well, reality tells us that diversity doesn't require labels or stereotypes.
D&D gives powers based on backstory.
It's for fired Hollywood types that can no longer get their self-inserts into regular entertainment. It's for the "modern audience".
Me, I'll just stick with 3.5e or so. If that.
In 2018 we played our last 1st Edition AD&D game. We switched to 5th edition. This was so we could play at conventions again. We have played 5th for 6 years. Only two people in the group purchased Players Handbook, DMG, and Monster Manual. My son got me Xander’s Guide for my birthday. My daughter bought me some cool dice. And that is it. We can keep playing 5th until we don’t want to too. But they are not getting any more money out of us.
I’m currently working on converting the 3rd edition Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. I have books and models from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd edition. The only 5th model I have it the Saltmarsh, because we played that thing to death in 1st edition. Figured it would be a good conversion learning lesson.
I used to run Adventure League at a games shop but have stopped. WotC have killer Adventure League modules. So, I was having to deal with the ever changing rules from D&D Beyond. So, I’ve semi retired from DMing at the game shop. I still have my home game and that is enough for me and my friends.
Another legendary IP to pour down the drain. We will be seeing the funeral for this one before too long.
in a world where greater restoration and regeneration exists, why are there battle wheelchairs?
I mean that is the adventure hook right there, you have to pay back your healing to the Wizard or else.
It's just ideobabble insanity!
It’s for late stage body positivity.
Because those spells are pricey?
I did have one player who had an artificer with a prosthetic leg. The idea was pretty good at first.
@@janeenschultz8502 by the time we are talking of "battle wheelchairs" the individual probably has the budget to get a spell
Wheelchair users, blind people, and deaf people are ethnic groups now. 'Scuse me... "lineages".
they are softening hard stuff like blood, war and hard topics not only in D&D but in everything trying to make a protective buble for God knows what
"Ew, why are you trying to give me ick."
-City Urbanite.
Puking at the last Orc illustration for D&D 2024. First for the stupid attempt to response to the blind racists saying Orcs are black men, and Second for picturing a race of raiders like gardeners. Next will be Drows, I'm sure of it.
WoTC will erase all the evil in the fictional world. There will be no need to go in an adventure and save the world.
The most liberating thing is realizing you can just play old DND with a few actual friends.
It's for people who aren't buying or playing D&D. Good luck with tailoring your product to people who aren't your customers.
Hi Kneon. They should call it D&D Zero. I live in Oregon. Make fun of Portland.
"Keep Portland weird"
Mission accomplished.
A freaking wheelchair in DnD? WTH?! I identify as a black lesbian in a wheelchair please. Did I check all the boxes?
Back in my day, a giant scorpion would kill you in one hit, no saving throws. A vampire would drain your levels… THAC0 were the good ol’ days.
With this, they actually make me miss THAC0, which is a great feat on its own!
THAC0 was a mess and a horror to understand for newcomers but i would begin to miss it if i had to play their latest edition. By pure luck, i have enough old material for the rest of my lifetime and i won't need to buy their crap.
@@malcomyoung2240this also looks like a horror for newcomers too based on their sales
Dungeon and Dragons has lost its entire identity
and most of its customers
It's like X-men so-called fans believe that what the X-men are going through is the same what they are going through. LOL
The art suggests they have +5 sex toys rather than weapons.
Player: "I swing my +5 Vorpal Transitioner 3000!"
DM: "Roll a 0d and add 27 years of corrective surgeries."
@@brianmurphy6480 I think they use use the Vorpal weapon FOR the transition...
Tattoos of each others beards? Yeah that's just pathetic... Jesus christ.
Love how normal it's become to accept the phrase and ideology of "it's inclusive to get rid of XYZ" If inclusivity is designed to be exclusive, then it is not - by definition - inclusive.
I started back in the late 80's gamed all through the 90's, then life happened and the group had other things that took up our time. I few years back I looked for a table but nothing was recognizable any longer. Oh well, good memories at least.
If you think the Red Box is the gold standard for getting into rpgs (and I got in using it too), you should definitely check the Dragonbane boxed set. Now that’s gold standard.
Not the people who've spent thousands of dollars on D&D over the years, that's for sure.
Hey, a random shiny out in the wild 😁
Good to see creators supporting each other.
They are all doing the same thing pandering to a group of people who do not give a crap about their product and, at the same time, dumping on those who loved their product in the past and now hate it. In the end, they end up losing more and more money to the point that the company has to file for protection and then fire the board and everyone to get new people in to save them when they should not be going this way to start with.
DnDBeyond was the first DnDApp which broke me. It basically was a "Buy the books again, Pay to make characters, App still isn't fixed BUT YOU NEED IT NOW!!!"
Players don't even know how to read their damn APP Charactersheets let alone the ones they print out. I have always felt that unless you write it down the way you understand how your skills work. You will never understand what and where your features/abilities come from...
Viconia was right about us upworlders.
Did they really change the orcs? Orcs are very well known already for not respecting a Kingdom's boarders.
Since they're mexican now. Im guessing they'll cross the baldur gate illegally and steal everyone's jobs :')
Checks out.
Answer: The diverse, feminist, LGBTQ+ crowd of course .... just like everything else.
This is what happens when you get rid of shame.
@@skunkybudtoker9092 It's almost like you think there's a bunch of hedonists who think they should be able to do anything without consequences but rail anyone else when they feel uncomfortable.
About fucking time we get something.
@@rlowethewitch8417 right, but there's, like......ten of you. Doesn't make sense as a business model for a profit-driven company
@@robinmohamedally7587 There's maybe a little more than ten of us lol
A lot more than that, actually. And that's just those of us who are comfortable even being out.
In a world of high magic able to bring people back from the dead and heal any malidy, an adventurer in a wheelchair is idiotic.
Decades ago when I played, we didn't have this thing called "back stories". You were a fighter, wizard or whatever, and your job was to coordinate with the other people in your party to slaughter as many monsters in as varied scenarios as possible until something was saved or the big boss got killed. The whole "role playing" thing was very minimal except as it involved interacting with some NPC who could give you information, a necessary item or a job. On rare occasions would a PC talk to an intelligent and powerful monster to avoid a fight. While I admit that Matt Mercer's D&D and his party of professional actors was entertaining to watch, to me that wasn't D&D. That was just a group of real life entertainers putting on a show. And this is now what they're turning the game into? Much like Disney, let's see how much money they can waste until they crash and burn.
You just so happen to have a healthy masculine approach to the game.
The thing that makes me sad is knowing that I have friends that support this trash. I have one friend, in specific, who has played D&D since he was 5 in the 80s. Played it with his dad & uncles & all. He still supports this shit. He even defends these garbage people calling the old school shit racist & race-bending established characters & all. I just don't understand it.
That's because some of the older stuff is racist. It wasn't intentional but it still was
I'm not a tabletop gamer but as a huge fan of video game RPGs, I have a lot of respect for DnD influencing the genre. It's a shame what happened to it.
Oh yeah BG1 BG2 , IWD1 IWD2 , absolute unhidden gems 💎
@@skibidi.G Don't forget Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Wild Arms. I love JRPGs and I think DnD helped with that. Also don't forget Skyrim.
@@coffeelover7687 yeah, good times, good times .
The bad thing is, the activists who have infiltrated these brands and franchises win no matter what. Either they manage to transform everything to their liking, or they manage to successfully bury another "source of toxic masculinity" and ruin the company and it goes bankrupt. Either way, it's a win for them.
Imagine thinking a Dwarf would wear sandals into a Forge AND disrupt the smiths as they worked.
While I agree posturing is annoying and D&D isn’t about being nice, at its core. It clearly has changed. And their sales numbers will say it all.
You say at one point that many think WotC brought D&D down into the ground, but that’s not true, from their standpoint.
They have a healthy brand that’s selling like it never did before. One D&D will be the test, or the survey, if you will.
If it sells as well as 5e did, that will validate them and they will keep making D&D friendly and cute.
Even the art is dumb. Tatooing someone’s beard what?? That changes in a week that’s not even thought out. It’s literally for no one bc even the gays know that doesn’t make sense. It’s too far
It's for 0.5% of the population. The rest of us just don't understand DnD.
Well on one hand. DnD when it was made was played by 0.5% of the population.
On the other, for some reason WoC chose a new 0.5% who routinely don’t support things catering to them.
Those two look like they're straight out of that Yawning Portal game where you just serve food and drinks to passing customers.
I miss good old DnD. In high school my friends and I would play it all the time. I wish these companies would stop ruining perfectly good IPs with BS diversity.
I DM'd a DND session yesterday and i do not even have the players handbook. Buying their stuff is purely depending on my good will and they go out of their way to tell me that they hate me based on my skin colour.
No wonder my 2nd edition AD&D is selling like crazy online….Mad Love to all from Wisconsin, birthplace of true D&D!
My first character was "Silver" a female thief. My friend and I played through the very first sample dungeon at the end of the red book. I remember being so shocked when the antagonist magic missile kills the cleric NPC in the dungeon. I was hooked that was 35 years ago. I have not played D&D since 2nd edition. I probably will not.
These people do not have the imagination or creativity to envision other worlds. All they can see is their version of our world.
It ain’t even their own unimaginative version but a stale and superficial one they were drip fed by their gurus, who also sold them on the lie that the corpos care about the stuff they peddle.
How the hell is it that these people ended up in control of ALL out entertainment???
I got into D&D some years ago after being invited by a friend who DMs. After following this news via your videos for the last few years, I understand more and more why he always makes up his own campaigns and deviates from official rules and lore.
Should have never let the theatre kids come to the table, we used to have to tell our theatre kid to just shut up or he'd spend the whole time just babbling about his characters backstory and constantly trying to force the DM away from the planned module into some crap related to his uncle or something. Well then there was the other, the thief that thought RP'ing was just stealing from everyone, party included, which caused our game group to just break up cuz fuck that dude.
Just remember it was the Normie Invasion that ruined it.
Nah, it was the Snowflakes lol. Even with Normies, it would not have been that bad.
Nah it was women, snowflakes, normies, gays, hipsters. Basically anyone I don't like. Fuck, even D&Ders ruined D&D. Damned D&Ders... *shakes fist angrily* 🥱🥱
DnD allows people to do things they can’t do in the real world.
So it’s been taken over by people who can’t hold a job, be some what interesting, or productive in the real world
My oldest son and I played free RPG Day at a local comic shop today. The GM had an incredible setup with a castle he made that took up half the table. Slaying a plenty today. Now my oldest son is setting up a campaign for his younger brother’s birthday. I’m excited to see what he does. The game is going to be just fine! As long as there are those out in the wild who teach the youngsters how D&D is meant to be played.
New DND is playable if it is part homebrew, where you take out all the woke garbage.
Bob Iger; it is all being done for Bob Iger.... They are hoping if they push 'the message' hard enough that disney will buy them out because their business is failing hard and Hasbro has had enough of losing money so DnD and all those working on it are on the verge of losing all their jobs.
Even the musculature of the Red Box Warrior appears male.
16:30 It's not just "gone". Gone you could look fondly back on as the good old days. It was destroyed. And now there's a dancing corpse to constantly remind you just how bad it's gotten
This started a long time ago. GenCon with the first year of third edition I got stuck with a family of half orcs who didn't want to fight orcs in the game. They even went as far as to try to restrain my character from defending the other NPCs from the rampaging orcs...
There are so many other options for good gaming corporate D&D doesn't even need to be on your radar. The OSR alone has literally over 100 options and more gameable material than a person could play in their lifetime. There's no reason to give anything but derision and disregard to WotC and their slop.