Also, meine Paar Cent dazu - ich habe professionelle Kopfhörer zu Hause. Und muss sagen, die Unterschiede zwischen dem Original und dem Clone sind so marginal, dass es fast nicht mehr wichtig ist, welches Pedal gerade erklingt! Vielen lieben Dank für dieses Video!❤❤❤
Da bin ich ganz bei dir. Hab es mit einigen Leuten schon getestet ohne das die wussten das das ein Nachbau ist. Keiner wusste welcher welcher ist. Bei vielen Sachen ist es einfach nur Marketing und ganz viel voodoo
I heard the Analog.man King Of Tone wait list is 3+ years now! There's no reason for ANY pedal wait list to be longer than 3 months when the parts of readily available LOL. With that said, I bought one of the King of Clones and immediately sold my KOT for $700 on Reverb, I'm currently 10 months out for my next KOT which I will immediately flip too! I feel sorry for the people that have to wait 3+ years for Analog.Dood (Will they ever actually get a KOT, or will they get a Klon-ed over the head like the poor people Bill Finnegan left waiting for years, who got nothing!), they should buy the 68 pedals instead, it can be dialed to to sound EXACTLY like the King of Waiting fka King of Tone!
@@markrosenquist8259 I'm sure a droolin' TGP bedroom playa will lo' ball buy it for $1750 : ) ~ It's expected for The Gear Page membas to lick the boots of the approved builders, & Analog.man fan boiz think it's an honor to get on the KOT 5 year wait list! :ROFL
I listened on high end cans/amp and I found the most informative section was when you said to heck with the knob settings and just twisted the clone to get the same tone as the original, which you in fact 99% accomplished. That is the test that compares the actual potential of each box. LOL, I'm old enough to remember the days when two brand new "identical" tube amps would sound as different as these two boxes when the knobs were set the same...
Yes you are right. but you also have to read everything because I wrote other comments that I already had 3 more KoT and all three had minimal differences. even if the KoC does not sound 100% identical, it is worth its 100 euros.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 I saw your other comments...just offered these for additional perspective is all. Two schools of thought: one is "who cares if its a clone and the knobs are in a different position as long as I get a sound I want" and the other is "I like this one better therefore I actually play better thru it simply because it amps me up more". IMO these are both 100% valid since at the end of the day, it comes down to how well you play. What I like so much about your video as compared to most others is I can see both of these aspects. Your "dinking" is clearly more animated when using the KOT. And when you start twisting knobs on the KOC, it is in fact 99% the same as the KOT. And seeing both of these aspects is what makes your video so good imo. Most everyone else just sets the knobs the same and calls it a day, which isn't very informative at all imo.
Sehr guter Vergleich, vielen Dank dafür!! Die Unterschiede sind wirklich minimal, finde ich. Wie Du sagst, wird man es live wohl kaum hören. Nachdem ich vor ca. 10 Jahren schon einmal einen KOT hatte (ich fürchte dass ich ihn damals nicht kapiert habe und mein Stil ein anderer war...), den aber leider wieder verkauft habe, habe ich seit 1 Jahr wieder einen und bin sehr glücklich damit. Er hat die Frequenzen, die sich immer durchsetzen, auch im Studio. Nächste Woche kommt mein nächster hoffentlich an, nach 3 Jahren Warteliste und (dank Corona) fast 4 Monaten shipping (die Frachtflieger durften nicht fliegen). Mike schickt den KOT ja nicht mehr nach D, also musste ein Freund im Ausland herhalten. U.a. aufgrund Deines Videos habe ich mir auch noch den KOC bestellt und bin sehr gespannt. Danke für den tollen Job!
Vielen Dank für dein Kommentar. Ich finde nur schade das er nicht nach DE Liefert weil ich einen zweiten wollte so bin ich per Zufall auf den 68 pedals gestoßen und war so begeistert das ich ein video drehen musste das man sich dieses Pedal aufjedenfall merken sollte besonders für diesen Preis und das man es innerhalb 1-2 Wochen bekommt. Grüße
This is the best comparison video of these two pedals. I bought a 68 pedals king of clone to get an idea of what the KOT is like before getting myself on the waiting list, it seems a really well made pedal for the price and has great tones, for $100 shipped to you in a week it's really not bad!
Awesome! Seems like the original may have a tad more gain than the clone on identical settings. But very close probably identical if you raise the gain slight in the clone to match?
Due to parts tolerance it’s impossible for two of the same pedals to sound the exact same when setting the knobs to the exact same settings. That being said, yes turning up the gain would get the gain to match the other.
wow man, you do you know how rare it is to see someone do a logical coherent demo like this? You actually showed the guitar tone as a control and then did equal A/B comparisons! I know it's asking for a lot, but thanx!!!😂 that said, they sound about the same to me, 68 pedals seems to have nailed it
I really like my king of drive (demon fx version )! Works great as a base tone shaper, but even better as a boost into muff style fuzz, or brown sound style pedals... makes me long for the real deal!
upon listing through my mixing headphones I have to say they are very close, the original has more mid fuzz around every setting and the 68 is cleaner, i actually prefer the cleaner sound as i'm not a high gain guy as much, both sound great
Thanks for the upload. The differences are subtle, but present: the Analogman is definitely more dynamic and trebly. It has a bit more presence and drive with similar settings. One would have more reserve in playing with the guitar's volume pot I suppose. All in all, it seems a good buy for the money... and no waiting list ;-)
Which op-amps were in this pedal? He switched from 4558's to 4580's recently which are good upgrade, should bring it noticeably closer the KOT. Very good demo!
Close enough to get to know the pedal, decide if you really want it, and hold you over for the wait. But if it is THE SOUND you crave, rh Analog an has that extra little magic. The clone, like most clones of everything, is slightly harder sounding and has a little less sag... At least listening to them, the difference is small. Feel could be a slightly different story. It seems the player gets more into those single note bends when playing the real deal, which tells me the original is pulling the player into playing those sounds. Either way, on this side of TH-cam, the difference is small, and I'm impressed, but some will pay big bucks for that extra last 5%... Even 2%. Personally, if I can, I'll try the clone first. This isn't really my domain as far as sounds, but I'll try anything. Interestingly, a Jan Ray clone wiped a bunch of other overdrives specifically made for what I do off my board and my jaw dropped... so yeah.. I'll try anything!
Very interesting, Using studio grade headphones i could notice a really tiny difference in the 68 that it sounds a bit more "DRY"(?). I would like your opinion on feel and real sound. As of course with youtube compression and so on there is a difference of hearing it live. I am considering a KOT (already have a POT) and a 68 is a1/5 of the price so it would great to know what you think. I won't have the chance to compare them side by side.
thank you for your comment. yes the 68 pedal sounds a bit drier but the other sounds a little more lively. you can hardly tell the difference between them live, it is just a slight difference in the feeling of playing the guitar. the 68 pedal is worth every cent. I recorded in real time for the best possible playback value.
I did notice the 68 has socketed op-amps and the photo I saw had 4558's in it. Those are really bottom of the barrel so there may be a noticeable tonal difference by popping in something better. I'd say 5532 for an inexpensive option and 4562 for high end option. Of course there are many others but these two are usually great in retrofits. Now whether it actually sounds 'better' is something only you can decide...
@@samuelsmith4494 In the band structure, there is only a minimal difference, but how it is in life that the small things make it up. For me personally, the KoT is the better choice but also more expensive
I think there is a slight tone difference... but that could be just due to the tolerances of quality of the components. From another video, the clone appears to be fairly identical component-wise. Given the shortage of electronic components, even the original KOT may start using different components over time....
@@waltuhhimself For me, the lyRock is a little better, but that's a matter of taste. Whether they both come from the same company would be news to me. I also bought the KTR clone from Lyrock and compared it with an original KTR and was shocked that they both sound exactly the same and the circuit board even seems to be the same.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Oh that's quite a surprise. The lyrock is significantly cheaper than 68. But i find the 4 dip switches in the lyrock don't do anything and i'm not the only one noticing this. The review from AliExpress buyer also said the same. What's your experience with the dip switches?
I like the Analogman pedal more, but since modding the hell out of my Pro Jr lately, adding 3 additional tone stacks, a presence mod, a bright and fat boost mod, replacing the ribbon cables that connect the tube sockets with the main board, adding a 12 stage attenuation circuit, and an adjustable bias mod.....I don’t think I need pedals anymore, other than a small reverb pedal.
Thanks for the video. I ordered a King of Clone. Was going to grab Prince of Tone but why when you can get this? On the waitlist for the KOT. Cant wait for 2024!
@@firstnamelastname9370 it’s working great. I like it. He made me a Duellist clone as well that’s pretty good as well. I like them both for overdrive but much prefer the RYRA Klone for clean boost.
It's pretty good. As a small business owner who works very hard to invent new things, it's always a little disappointing when someone just copies my work and undercuts me without having spent the months or years to engineer it in the first place. The Clone sounds good. The KoT sounds better, and I'm sure the differences are more apparent when you're actually in the room playing and feeling the way the guitar responds to the whole set-up.
I agree with you 100%. the little things make the whole thing. I like the KoT better and it is also part of my pedalboard. As noted in the video, the King of Tone is a little better in every setting, although not extreme, but it is audible.
For better or worse, that's how the pedal business works, especially in the analog realm. I would argue that Analogman couldn't complain too much about the KoT being cloned as he just took someone else's design (Marshall's Bluesbreaker pedal) and put two of them (with a minor change to each to make them interact better) in a single case. If he can do it, why not other pedal makers?
@@Whiskeyklone It's one thing to make a pedal and call it your own. But to go after another manufacturer so blatantly with a name, and appearance that rides the merits of what someone else has done just reeks of something a non-scrupulous Chinese company would do. I don't mind someone taking an existing product and making it better through their own ingenuity, but to piggyback the name and fake the appearance, goes too far. A person's product should step up and stake it's claim on its own merits. The King of Klone is essentially what at Squier by Fender is, as compared to a real Fender. It’s just not as good, and people know this. Secretly, they all want the real deal. The Klone builder could have called it the Tone Krusher, or any other name, and that would have at least given him the possible future of being known as The Best for its own sound. But copping the look and claiming it to be “almost as good,” forever taints the product by its own admission of attempting to re-create the King of Tone. The King of Klone will always be known as second best and so will the company that “kloned” it. If damaging someone else's business, and essentially publicly stating "I don't care what damage I do as long as I make money," is what this guy is up to, well, then it's on his conscience, which apparently, he seems to be lacking.
the LY-ROCK also sounds in the same settings as the original. With the 68 pedals you have to readjust a bit to achieve the same sound, which is only minimal. Whichever you choose, you make no mistake
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Awesome, thank you very much! I had the original KoT v4 for about 6 years and stupidly sold it a couple years ago for what I paid new... now I'm really missing it, but my name won't come up on the waitlist for a while (I went back on the list in late 2017). I have a Prince of Tone, but it doesn't quite sound the same as my original did. Good to know that both examples sound as good as the original!
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 yea, it is warmer and fuller and a bit deeper. although i asked, i imagined myself you are using the same voltage, great video
Hallo Jens, Danke fürs Kompliment! Orange side overdrive und red side High gain. Beide haben aber alle Optionen falls ich mal Beide Seiten High gain haben will mir gefällt am besten die Option od und High gain da die am besten mit dem klon harmonieren ich hab in meinem Chanel auch ein video KOT und Klon falls das auch interessant für dich ist. Grüße Gregor
Danke für die prompte Antwort. Das Video hab ich mir angesehen, da ich einen Ryra Klon habe. Bei Analogman bin ich seit 6 Monaten auf der Waitinglist. Dein Video hat mich vorhin überzeugt, und da hab ich mir zur Überbrückung der nächsten 1-2 Jahre 🤔😊 den KOC bestellt.
@@jensraffelsiefen4886 diese Entscheidung wirst du nicht bereuen. Zuhause verwende ich nur den KOC. Übrigens der Klon von 68 pedals ist auch bombastisch.
Bin gespannt. Spiele zwar auch seit Jahren einen Kemper, will aber auch mal wieder meine Röhrenamps und Effekte wiederbeleben. Das wird dann mit dem Gigrig G2 Switcher auf einem Schmidt Array Board realisiert.
Also ich hab den 68er und ich stehe auf der „Liste“, höre aber kaum einen Unterschied. Mal sehen wie ich in etwa zwei Jahren darüber denke wenn ich dran bin. Meinst Du der Jnterschied von 300€ (incl Tax und Fracht) lohnt wirklich?
Also ehrlich gesagt rechtfertigt der höhere Preis es nicht. Ein Unterschied ist da, der aber so gering ist das sich das im bandgefüge kaum bemerkbar macht. Der größte Unterschied zwischen den beiden ist der Preis und das der King of tone früher anfängt zu zerren. Ich hatte schon 3 KoT aus verschiedenen Jahrgängen und selber die haben untereinander klangunterschiede gehabt, zwar nur gering aber sie waren da und bei einem hochpreisigen Pedal wie bei analogman sollte es ja nicht sein. Hätte ich den Test vor meinem kauf gehabt hätte ich mir das 68 Pedal gekauft und die Differenz in ein anderes pedal gesteckt ich möchte aber trotzallerdem meinen Analogman king of tone nicht missen da die Nuance die er mehr hat vom Sound mir extrem spielspaß bereitet. Grüße
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 I ordered a KoC after seeing this. I will be happy with it I think while I wait for KoT thanks again for doing this I am not sure if it's convenient, nut if you could compare 68's Klon clone to Wampler's Tumnus DEluxe (which I own and like a lot), it would be appreciated
@@brucemarie3059 I'm very happy that I could help you with the video. the comparison KoC against the Wampler, I already have a video in my channel. king of tone vs ceriatone centura. the centura is just like the wampler tumnus because they are both KLON pedals and I would use both together, that opens up a lot of new sounds.
What's the Noise Floor at Idle on these Pedals? Anyway...You get what you pay for in this Business just like any other. The Analogman is clearly the top choice in this Video...Look at the Circuit and you'll understand why...BUT... I would gladly anyday take the 68 King of Clone for it's close emulation! AND PRICE TOO! This is the reason why I have the Pedal coming from China, be here by the 15th of Sept. Once I can take a little closer look at the Circuits of the 68' I'll be in a better position to say why the Analogman is superior in the Effect it produces.
Analog man seems to have a touch more warmth, saturation, and certain kind of sparkle. But man, as far as pedal clones go, I don't think it gets better than this.
Where did you get you 68 Pedals King of Clone? I noticed several sellers with different prices and I’m concerned the quality also varies. Please LMK. Thanks, Rich
you can buy from him on REVERB or you write the name of the pedal in Google with the ending ebay then it will lead you to the ebay link. if you look for the pedal directly on ebay you won't find it. you can send me your email then I will send you the link
Ha sir You feel 68 king of tone and LY-rock king of tone Which one is more like the original analogman king of tone because i want to buy thank you I from taiwan
Great vid, thanks, the original definitely has more response but wow the clone sure does sound great. Maybe this will make them lower their price point, it's unreasonable for a pedal.
you're right. I think that generally clone pedals have the problem. i built a vemuram jan ray pedal myself and have the original. they sound very similar, but the original comes faster with the gain and overall it has a bit more of everything. this week i'm posting a new comparison video, jan ray vs clone
Why should they lower the price, when people sell them immediately for over twice the retail? Economics 101. That's why concert ticket prices went up, why let the ticket resaler make such a profit when the promoter could do the same from source? John Mayer concert ticket price cheap seats £250, why? Because that's what the market could take. What is unreasonable is someone questioning the purchase price and expecting it to be lowered because some cheap chinese knock off can do a fair counterfeit for £100. They will lower the price when no one wants them any more, (Like never). On a plus, you are right its a great vid and the clone does sound great too.
Don't forget it is not just how it sounds. They probably feel different to play. And KoT is made with quality components and the quality control in Anlogman in general is something else. The Clone has cheap components and lacks of quality control comparing to Analogman. The clone will more likely break in year or two. Let that sink in.
I am so pleased with my King of Clone. I've never played the real deal but it sounds to me that there's very little to any difference.
I listened to this video minimized while doing other things and I couldn't tell a difference. I had no idea when either pedal was on.
Also, meine Paar Cent dazu - ich habe professionelle Kopfhörer zu Hause. Und muss sagen, die Unterschiede zwischen dem Original und dem Clone sind so marginal, dass es fast nicht mehr wichtig ist, welches Pedal gerade erklingt!
Vielen lieben Dank für dieses Video!❤❤❤
Da bin ich ganz bei dir. Hab es mit einigen Leuten schon getestet ohne das die wussten das das ein Nachbau ist. Keiner wusste welcher welcher ist. Bei vielen Sachen ist es einfach nur Marketing und ganz viel voodoo
I really enjoyed this. Great job in showcasing the true environment and abilities of each pedal. Well done, I'm a subscriber now.
This is actually the closest clone I've heard with matched settings on TH-cam. Pretty impressive for 150 dollar difference and 11 month shorter wait!
I heard the Analog.man King Of Tone wait list is 3+ years now! There's no reason for ANY pedal wait list to be longer than 3 months when the parts of readily available LOL. With that said, I bought one of the King of Clones and immediately sold my KOT for $700 on Reverb, I'm currently 10 months out for my next KOT which I will immediately flip too! I feel sorry for the people that have to wait 3+ years for Analog.Dood (Will they ever actually get a KOT, or will they get a Klon-ed over the head like the poor people Bill Finnegan left waiting for years, who got nothing!), they should buy the 68 pedals instead, it can be dialed to to sound EXACTLY like the King of Waiting fka King of Tone!
@@badgeswhatbadges9527 agree. i bought 4 clones. ;) 69 pedals has quite a few more pedals to choose from.
@@badgeswhatbadges9527 Yeah people are trying to get ridiculous money for the analogman. Saw someone on EBay trying to get 1800$ for one😅🤦🏼♂️
@@markrosenquist8259 I'm sure a droolin' TGP bedroom playa will lo' ball buy it for $1750 : ) ~ It's expected for The Gear Page membas to lick the boots of the approved builders, & Analog.man fan boiz think it's an honor to get on the KOT 5 year wait list! :ROFL
@@badgeswhatbadges9527 Yeah you’re probably right, Insane!
I listened on high end cans/amp and I found the most informative section was when you said to heck with the knob settings and just twisted the clone to get the same tone as the original, which you in fact 99% accomplished. That is the test that compares the actual potential of each box. LOL, I'm old enough to remember the days when two brand new "identical" tube amps would sound as different as these two boxes when the knobs were set the same...
Yes you are right. but you also have to read everything because I wrote other comments that I already had 3 more KoT and all three had minimal differences. even if the KoC does not sound 100% identical, it is worth its 100 euros.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 I saw your other comments...just offered these for additional perspective is all. Two schools of thought: one is "who cares if its a clone and the knobs are in a different position as long as I get a sound I want" and the other is "I like this one better therefore I actually play better thru it simply because it amps me up more". IMO these are both 100% valid since at the end of the day, it comes down to how well you play. What I like so much about your video as compared to most others is I can see both of these aspects. Your "dinking" is clearly more animated when using the KOT. And when you start twisting knobs on the KOC, it is in fact 99% the same as the KOT. And seeing both of these aspects is what makes your video so good imo. Most everyone else just sets the knobs the same and calls it a day, which isn't very informative at all imo.
Sehr guter Vergleich, vielen Dank dafür!! Die Unterschiede sind wirklich minimal, finde ich. Wie Du sagst, wird man es live wohl kaum hören. Nachdem ich vor ca. 10 Jahren schon einmal einen KOT hatte (ich fürchte dass ich ihn damals nicht kapiert habe und mein Stil ein anderer war...), den aber leider wieder verkauft habe, habe ich seit 1 Jahr wieder einen und bin sehr glücklich damit. Er hat die Frequenzen, die sich immer durchsetzen, auch im Studio. Nächste Woche kommt mein nächster hoffentlich an, nach 3 Jahren Warteliste und (dank Corona) fast 4 Monaten shipping (die Frachtflieger durften nicht fliegen). Mike schickt den KOT ja nicht mehr nach D, also musste ein Freund im Ausland herhalten. U.a. aufgrund Deines Videos habe ich mir auch noch den KOC bestellt und bin sehr gespannt.
Danke für den tollen Job!
Vielen Dank für dein Kommentar.
Ich finde nur schade das er nicht nach DE Liefert weil ich einen zweiten wollte so bin ich per Zufall auf den 68 pedals gestoßen und war so begeistert das ich ein video drehen musste das man sich dieses Pedal aufjedenfall merken sollte besonders für diesen Preis und das man es innerhalb 1-2 Wochen bekommt.
Grüße
Great Demo!. Wow I actually prefer the 68 Pedal.
Thanks for the vid. Really good side by side.
This is the best comparison video of these two pedals. I bought a 68 pedals king of clone to get an idea of what the KOT is like before getting myself on the waiting list, it seems a really well made pedal for the price and has great tones, for $100 shipped to you in a week it's really not bad!
I hope with this video I can help you thanks for comment
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 by the way, what settings are you using on the King of Clone? High gain both sides? Boost/OD/distortion?
I used the same settings on the KoT and KoC . Yellow side /OD and Red side / Dist.
bet you aren't on the waiting list now.....lol
Awesome! Seems like the original may have a tad more gain than the clone on identical settings. But very close probably identical if you raise the gain slight in the clone to match?
Due to parts tolerance it’s impossible for two of the same pedals to sound the exact same when setting the knobs to the exact same settings. That being said, yes turning up the gain would get the gain to match the other.
I own the 68 pedals Koc and love it
wow man, you do you know how rare it is to see someone do a logical coherent demo like this? You actually showed the guitar tone as a control and then did equal A/B comparisons! I know it's asking for a lot, but thanx!!!😂
that said, they sound about the same to me, 68 pedals seems to have nailed it
Soundwise not much in it but given the ridiculous price of the KOT, I just bought the 68 Pedals All seeing Eye and it does the job perfectly for me.
From where did you get it?
The KOT is not expensive, having no patience is expensive. I'm on the wait list and looking forward to getting mine in 2023😂
@@elisamuelhernandez1689 you can get them on his eBay account
@@the92project fuck anything with a waitlist that long 😂
Sounds just as good at a quarter of the price. I just got one on ebay
can i ask you if you kept and have incorperated it into your rig? or you sell it ?
@@jonathanfrieze8497 I added it to pedal board
Finally...a freakin Demo! Nice Tone! I'll take the 68'
I really like my king of drive (demon fx version )! Works great as a base tone shaper, but even better as a boost into muff style fuzz, or brown sound style pedals... makes me long for the real deal!
upon listing through my mixing headphones I have to say they are very close, the original has more mid fuzz around every setting and the 68 is cleaner, i actually prefer the cleaner sound as i'm not a high gain guy as much, both sound great
Thanks for the upload. The differences are subtle, but present: the Analogman is definitely more dynamic and trebly. It has a bit more presence and drive with similar settings. One would have more reserve in playing with the guitar's volume pot I suppose. All in all, it seems a good buy for the money... and no waiting list ;-)
The very slight EQ & Dynamics differences melt away when you run the King of Clone @ 18v, it can be dialed in to EXACTLY match the KOT ; )
I would agree that the differences are subtle but present. For the price though, the clone has a lot going for it.
how can it be trebley when its circuit has a lpf in it and the clone also has it at exactly the same configuration
@@automachinehead Components can be tricky sometimes… 😉
@@frantisca yes but at least we have the freedom to tweak it
Which op-amps were in this pedal? He switched from 4558's to 4580's recently which are good upgrade, should bring it noticeably closer the KOT. Very good demo!
This clone may be the deciding factor for me going away from my GT100 and back to analog pedals.
Close enough to get to know the pedal, decide if you really want it, and hold you over for the wait. But if it is THE SOUND you crave, rh Analog an has that extra little magic.
The clone, like most clones of everything, is slightly harder sounding and has a little less sag... At least listening to them, the difference is small. Feel could be a slightly different story. It seems the player gets more into those single note bends when playing the real deal, which tells me the original is pulling the player into playing those sounds.
Either way, on this side of TH-cam, the difference is small, and I'm impressed, but some will pay big bucks for that extra last 5%... Even 2%.
Personally, if I can, I'll try the clone first. This isn't really my domain as far as sounds, but I'll try anything.
Interestingly, a Jan Ray clone wiped a bunch of other overdrives specifically made for what I do off my board and my jaw dropped... so yeah.. I'll try anything!
Very interesting, Using studio grade headphones i could notice a really tiny difference in the 68 that it sounds a bit more "DRY"(?). I would like your opinion on feel and real sound. As of course with youtube compression and so on there is a difference of hearing it live. I am considering a KOT (already have a POT) and a 68 is a1/5 of the price so it would great to know what you think. I won't have the chance to compare them side by side.
thank you for your comment. yes the 68 pedal sounds a bit drier but the other sounds a little more lively. you can hardly tell the difference between them live, it is just a slight difference in the feeling of playing the guitar. the 68 pedal is worth every cent. I recorded in real time for the best possible playback value.
by the way the prince of tone is very good but for me it has exactly the same difference from the sound to the king of tone.
I did notice the 68 has socketed op-amps and the photo I saw had 4558's in it. Those are really bottom of the barrel so there may be a noticeable tonal difference by popping in something better. I'd say 5532 for an inexpensive option and 4562 for high end option. Of course there are many others but these two are usually great in retrofits. Now whether it actually sounds 'better' is something only you can decide...
@@samuelsmith4494 In the band structure, there is only a minimal difference, but how it is in life that the small things make it up. For me personally, the KoT is the better choice but also more expensive
Sam Smith where could I buy a 4652? What do you recommend? Thank you!
I think there is a slight tone difference... but that could be just due to the tolerances of quality of the components. From another video, the clone appears to be fairly identical component-wise. Given the shortage of electronic components, even the original KOT may start using different components over time....
Yeah but there is also like a $600 price difference
Great comparison and nice playing..! Thanks for sharing.! 🍻
BTW, what is the actual wait on a new Analog Man one these days? I've heard 11 month to 3 years lol..
Yes, the waiting time is beyond acceptable
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 I'm wondering what it actually is though... In the AM site it says to search Google... 😂
I Agree it is a nice pedal for the money.
KoT is clearer more defined and less harsh but everyone’s tastes are a bit different.
Hi there,
How's the 68 compared to lyrock?
I heard they're made by the same builder
@@waltuhhimself For me, the lyRock is a little better, but that's a matter of taste. Whether they both come from the same company would be news to me. I also bought the KTR clone from Lyrock and compared it with an original KTR and was shocked that they both sound exactly the same and the circuit board even seems to be the same.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Oh that's quite a surprise.
The lyrock is significantly cheaper than 68.
But i find the 4 dip switches in the lyrock don't do anything and i'm not the only one noticing this.
The review from AliExpress buyer also said the same.
What's your experience with the dip switches?
@@waltuhhimself The dip switches work perfectly for me but I'll test it again.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Is it normal that the OD and clean boost mode barely has any difference?
I like the Analogman pedal more, but since modding the hell out of my Pro Jr lately, adding 3 additional tone stacks, a presence mod, a bright and fat boost mod, replacing the ribbon cables that connect the tube sockets with the main board, adding a 12 stage attenuation circuit, and an adjustable bias mod.....I don’t think I need pedals anymore, other than a small reverb pedal.
Thanks for the video. I ordered a King of Clone. Was going to grab Prince of Tone but why when you can get this? On the waitlist for the KOT. Cant wait for 2024!
In the same boat. How's the king of clone for you?
I am on that list of wait too
@@firstnamelastname9370 it’s working great. I like it. He made me a Duellist clone as well that’s pretty good as well. I like them both for overdrive but much prefer the RYRA Klone for clean boost.
It's pretty good. As a small business owner who works very hard to invent new things, it's always a little disappointing when someone just copies my work and undercuts me without having spent the months or years to engineer it in the first place. The Clone sounds good. The KoT sounds better, and I'm sure the differences are more apparent when you're actually in the room playing and feeling the way the guitar responds to the whole set-up.
I agree with you 100%. the little things make the whole thing. I like the KoT better and it is also part of my pedalboard. As noted in the video, the King of Tone is a little better in every setting, although not extreme, but it is audible.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Try the King of Clone at 18v, it really opens up : )
I've done that before but haven't recorded it.
I'll do it soon
For better or worse, that's how the pedal business works, especially in the analog realm. I would argue that Analogman couldn't complain too much about the KoT being cloned as he just took someone else's design (Marshall's Bluesbreaker pedal) and put two of them (with a minor change to each to make them interact better) in a single case. If he can do it, why not other pedal makers?
@@Whiskeyklone It's one thing to make a pedal and call it your own. But to go after another manufacturer so blatantly with a name, and appearance that rides the merits of what someone else has done just reeks of something a non-scrupulous Chinese company would do. I don't mind someone taking an existing product and making it better through their own ingenuity, but to piggyback the name and fake the appearance, goes too far. A person's product should step up and stake it's claim on its own merits. The King of Klone is essentially what at Squier by Fender is, as compared to a real Fender. It’s just not as good, and people know this. Secretly, they all want the real deal. The Klone builder could have called it the Tone Krusher, or any other name, and that would have at least given him the possible future of being known as The Best for its own sound. But copping the look and claiming it to be “almost as good,” forever taints the product by its own admission of attempting to re-create the King of Tone. The King of Klone will always be known as second best and so will the company that “kloned” it. If damaging someone else's business, and essentially publicly stating "I don't care what damage I do as long as I make money," is what this guy is up to, well, then it's on his conscience, which apparently, he seems to be lacking.
How do you compare this one to the LY clone? Thanks!
the LY-ROCK also sounds in the same settings as the original. With the 68 pedals you have to readjust a bit to achieve the same sound, which is only minimal. Whichever you choose, you make no mistake
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Awesome, thank you very much! I had the original KoT v4 for about 6 years and stupidly sold it a couple years ago for what I paid new... now I'm really missing it, but my name won't come up on the waitlist for a while (I went back on the list in late 2017). I have a Prince of Tone, but it doesn't quite sound the same as my original did. Good to know that both examples sound as good as the original!
@@imgonnagetbanned you are Welcome
Damn nice! ordering the clone right now! Looks like theres switches inside too for higher gain etc if thats what you want
Want to add, I received it and love the pedal! Just found this video again and my comment as I’m referring a friend to this pedal.
Great review. Joyo just released the r20 pedal which is also based on the KOT. I would dig seeing you putting that side by side with these 2 pedals
QQ: Are the contour trimpots settings identical inside?
Yes, all is identical
Is it the same voltage for both? 9 - 18
The KOC sounds 9v and the KOT sounds 18v to me
I use both with 9Volt. The king of tone sounds a bit warmer and fuller.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 yea, it is warmer and fuller and a bit deeper.
although i asked, i imagined myself you are using the same voltage, great video
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 You should make a demo of them at 18v, the differences are much less ;-)
@@badgeswhatbadges9527 I suspect that the clone pedals cannot handle 18V - the capacitors must be rated at 25V or more to safely run 18V power.
Hallo Gregor, sehr guter Vergleich, danke dafür. Wie hast du die beiden Seiten des KOC &KOT konfiguriert? VG Jens
Hallo Jens,
Danke fürs Kompliment!
Orange side overdrive und red side High gain.
Beide haben aber alle Optionen falls ich mal Beide Seiten High gain haben will mir gefällt am besten die Option od und High gain da die am besten mit dem klon harmonieren ich hab in meinem Chanel auch ein video KOT und Klon falls das auch interessant für dich ist.
Grüße Gregor
Danke für die prompte Antwort. Das Video hab ich mir angesehen, da ich einen Ryra Klon habe. Bei Analogman bin ich seit 6 Monaten auf der Waitinglist. Dein Video hat mich vorhin überzeugt, und da hab ich mir zur Überbrückung der nächsten 1-2 Jahre 🤔😊 den KOC bestellt.
@@jensraffelsiefen4886 diese Entscheidung wirst du nicht bereuen.
Zuhause verwende ich nur den KOC.
Übrigens der Klon von 68 pedals ist auch bombastisch.
Bin gespannt. Spiele zwar auch seit Jahren einen Kemper, will aber auch mal wieder meine Röhrenamps und Effekte wiederbeleben. Das wird dann mit dem Gigrig G2 Switcher auf einem Schmidt Array Board realisiert.
Also ich hab den 68er und ich stehe auf der „Liste“, höre aber kaum einen Unterschied. Mal sehen wie ich in etwa zwei Jahren darüber denke wenn ich dran bin. Meinst Du der Jnterschied von 300€ (incl Tax und Fracht) lohnt wirklich?
Also ehrlich gesagt rechtfertigt der höhere Preis es nicht.
Ein Unterschied ist da, der aber so gering ist das sich das im bandgefüge kaum bemerkbar macht.
Der größte Unterschied zwischen den beiden ist der Preis und das der King of tone früher anfängt zu zerren.
Ich hatte schon 3 KoT aus verschiedenen Jahrgängen und selber die haben untereinander klangunterschiede gehabt, zwar nur gering aber sie waren da und bei einem hochpreisigen Pedal wie bei analogman sollte es ja nicht sein.
Hätte ich den Test vor meinem kauf gehabt hätte ich mir das 68 Pedal gekauft und die Differenz in ein anderes pedal gesteckt ich möchte aber trotzallerdem meinen Analogman king of tone nicht missen da die Nuance die er mehr hat vom Sound mir extrem spielspaß bereitet.
Grüße
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Danke für den Input.
Hab ich doch gern gemacht.
thanks for doing this. I ordered one.
to my ears it sounds like KoC is a tiny bit brighter
you're absolutely right, the two sound extremely similar. the king sounds like more but that is so small
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 I ordered a KoC after seeing this. I will be happy with it I think while I wait for KoT
thanks again for doing this
I am not sure if it's convenient, nut if you could compare 68's Klon clone to Wampler's Tumnus DEluxe (which I own and like a lot), it would be appreciated
@@brucemarie3059 I'm very happy that I could help you with the video. the comparison KoC against the Wampler, I already have a video in my channel. king of tone vs ceriatone centura. the centura is just like the wampler tumnus because they are both KLON pedals and I would use both together, that opens up a lot of new sounds.
What's the Noise Floor at Idle on these Pedals? Anyway...You get what you pay for in this Business just like any other. The Analogman is clearly the top choice in this Video...Look at the Circuit and you'll understand why...BUT...
I would gladly anyday take the 68 King of Clone for it's close emulation! AND PRICE TOO!
This is the reason why I have the Pedal coming from China, be here by the 15th of Sept.
Once I can take a little closer look at the Circuits of the 68' I'll be in a better position to say why the Analogman is superior in the Effect it produces.
Analog man seems to have a touch more warmth, saturation, and certain kind of sparkle. But man, as far as pedal clones go, I don't think it gets better than this.
Where can we buy the 68 Pedals? I quickly search online and only found an Instagram?
I found one on ebay where you can order from China without any problems
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 thanks!
Where did you get you 68 Pedals King of Clone? I noticed several sellers with different prices and I’m concerned the quality also varies. Please LMK. Thanks, Rich
you can buy from him on REVERB or you write the name of the pedal in Google with the ending ebay then it will lead you to the ebay link. if you look for the pedal directly on ebay you won't find it. you can send me your email then I will send you the link
Different sellers charge different prices ..that's just how buissness goes.they all want to make a buck more than th other guy.human nature.
Is the KOT a higher gain option on the right side? Thanks!
I have all optional in my KOT.
In this video ist Yellow overdrive and red side Hi gain. The Samen setting is on the 68 Pedal.
You should be on commission, I just bought KoC on ebay; $114. Due date on Jun 23rd...of this year.
Can the clone be run at 18v?
Yes.
Ha sir You feel 68 king of tone and LY-rock king of tone Which one is more like the original analogman king of tone
because i want to buy
thank you I from taiwan
PRS is a high end, quality guitar. I’ll bet you can hear even less of a difference if playing say a Japanese strat style guitar.
Este 68 es la v4?
Great comparison and awesome tone!
I'm curious - which pickups the custom 24 equipped with?
Thanks and keep rockin'
The custom 24 have the treble and Bass pickups.
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 Nice. Very full and organic tone
I actually prefer the King of Clone. It's probably a tad less open, but I like it's mid-focus.
What kind adapter do you need for this pedal?
A standard 9vdc
@@gregorist-gregorbrewczynsk5269 negative tip like a boss adapter?
Yes, the same 9v dc adapter as the Boss pedals
Great vid, thanks, the original definitely has more response but wow the clone sure does sound great. Maybe this will make them lower their price point, it's unreasonable for a pedal.
you're right. I think that generally clone pedals have the problem. i built a vemuram jan ray pedal myself and have the original. they sound very similar, but the original comes faster with the gain and overall it has a bit more of everything. this week i'm posting a new comparison video, jan ray vs clone
Why should they lower the price, when people sell them immediately for over twice the retail? Economics 101. That's why concert ticket prices went up, why let the ticket resaler make such a profit when the promoter could do the same from source? John Mayer concert ticket price cheap seats £250, why? Because that's what the market could take. What is unreasonable is someone questioning the purchase price and expecting it to be lowered because some cheap chinese knock off can do a fair counterfeit for £100. They will lower the price when no one wants them any more, (Like never). On a plus, you are right its a great vid and the clone does sound great too.
Analog sounds more dimensional and chewy.what does the reviewer think the difference is if any?
In order :)
Thanks for upload...nice playing,dude
Liebe Grüße und viel Erfolg 😊👍🏾
#STAYPOSITIVE
Vielen Dank.
Grüße
Just like the Klon I think the originals are about 5-10% better but not worth thousands lol
Be nice to hear with a Strat or Tele.
I have a other Video with the King vs LYR King
Alright you sold me lol
I am happy when the decision is made easie.
But I'm still a proponent of buying the original. I have every pedal, original and copy.
Analog Man sounds better IMO
The King of Tone has a little more of everything
Sounds the same
Can I get the email link
reverb.com/shop/68
write to him about the king of clone then he'll build one for you
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Don't forget it is not just how it sounds. They probably feel different to play. And KoT is made with quality components and the quality control in Anlogman in general is something else.
The Clone has cheap components and lacks of quality control comparing to Analogman. The clone will more likely break in year or two. Let that sink in.
the Clone cut the frequency signal +-10%
KOT ftw!
I bought a 68.