Gavin is an inside joke between the R* company, they had a Gavin there that was always late or never there so they’d shout out his name as a joke and they put it in the game but R* got creative with it. In the game files, there is a restraining order from Gavin, but it was cut from the game. Speculation Some theories about Gavin include that he left Nigel after an argument, that he was taken by someone, or that he is a character in Nigel's mind.
In the files from red dead 2 on pc, that the letter on Gavin’s friend was supposed to be restraining order, but for some reason it got changed to a letter from Tom.
“A lot of players think this could be Gavin running away from Nigel even though there is not a single thing connecting a character we’ve never seen to this random NPC on a train”
@@Celebrimbor_LIVES nah, if you loot him, you can read the letter sent for both of them, Nigel and Gavin, from someone else (I think his name was Tom). It also explained their story
I'd like to think that Gavin ended up ina different time than him during the time traveling and Gavin is the one who knew how to get back but went to far back so he can't.
What. The note you can loot from Nigel is from a childhood friend of both men named Tom that clearly refers to them as two separate people. He even mentions speaking to both men's mothers separately.
@@MrContemplationTheres no reason not to. The letter hints that Nigel is a pathological liar. Occam's Razor says Gavin got tired of Nigel and left him. Nigel writing himself a letter essentially calling himself a liar as a now THIRD personality named Tom while inventing an entire backstory of how all three personalities are lifelong friends and know each other's mothers(two of whom wouldn't actually exist), while ALSO inventing a story of how the third personality beat someone up in a whole other country for bad mouthing one of the other personalities is a little bit of a stretch.
i swear in rdr 2 you can come acrossed a guy named gavin whis been hung by the skinner brothers. he even leaves a note and no a minute or so passed that you see the guy calling for gavin walking aimlessly down the road looking for him.
My guess is the theory were Tom Francis the time traveler’s dad (can’t remember his last name) goes with Gavin through time some how before because if you kill Nigel he has a letter from someone named Tom saying he knows where Gavin is
Dear Nigel, I was so happy to hear from you. I cannot believe it, mate! My two friends - you and Gavin, boys I grew up with now real rich and successful cowboys in America! That's incredible news. Well done, mate Seriously. Well done. I know you and Gavin would find success over there . I mean, it stands to reason. A pair of boys from little old Maidenhead, Berkshire, now successful over in America. I might come and join you myself. Now that you two have done so well. Both of you rich and living in big mansions with servants, and all them cattle. I remember when the height of your ambition was pretending you were a Londoner and seeing if you fooled those Scotch boys we met by the barracks. Funny thing is, Gavin never mentioned none of this in his letter, but he always was a bit of a quiet one and I reckon you wrote after he did. Either way, I am mode up for the pair of you. Made up. Cowboys! Millionaires! We miss you, especially your Mum, since your Dad passed on, but she told me she was so proud of you. Even Gavin's Ma was happy. She said her usual piece about not thinking you had it in you, but she smiled and said she knew her boy would see sense or make sense or something eventually. Berkshire forever. Your pal, Tom P.S. I saw that bloke Brian Gold the other day, in the market. He said some real odd things about you, which I said weren't true. Bet he's laughing on the other side of his face now... This is the letter. Where does he say he knows where gavin is?
I chased and robbed that train, same with the stranger mission where at the end of the cutscene the guy leaves for the train, managed to get over 400$ on each
You do know theres a note on nigel you can loot that explains pretty much that the guy has split personality disorder and that Gavin is one of his made up personalities? Dont know about that R* inside joke part but that much i know.
I know this probably isn’t the case but do u think this is a reference to of mice and men where the main character climbs into a train carriage to leave the ranch? Probs not the case but it’s a theory
Lets say yes, but we all know gavin is not even in the game script. Gavin is a past version of nagel. After he became crazy. Now he call him self nagel and looking for his best friend gavin. His own past self.
I think that would have been pretty uanessacry. The game has a mostly defined story it wants to tell and adding a dating simulator would be a distraction from it.
If you kill Nigel you can loot a letter from a childhood friend that talks about both of them as separate people. The letter also hints that Nigel is a pathological liar, which is probably why Gavin abandoned him.
Gavin is an inside joke between the R* company, they had a Gavin there that was always late or never there so they’d shout out his name as a joke and they put it in the game but R* got creative with it. In the game files, there is a restraining order from Gavin, but it was cut from the game.
Speculation
Some theories about Gavin include that he left Nigel after an argument, that he was taken by someone, or that he is a character in Nigel's mind.
I think Nigel having Dissociative Identity Disorder is the best theory. Makes the most sense for sure.
There is supposedly a letter on 'nigel' saying that he is in fact Gavin. I've never seen it myself, but it is a pretty common fact @@Dylanjackson1
@@adenchams2371 really? That’s actually really cool. I wonder how I’ve never seen that I’ve played the game a few times.
GAVIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
I smell cap
I thought the guy looking 4 gavin had personality disorder and he himself was gavin
He does most people don’t know though
He does, this "theory" is just random people coming up with stuff.
Which personality disorder?
I thought Gavin was the guy in the tree?
@@VDGZRI thought it was the guy hanging under the bridge outside valentine
Gavin is the bay harbour butcher
Jesus Christ be original ffs
@Bageldogger You're the bay harbour walkemdownlicktheyballs aren't you?
He knows.
Bay Harbour Sink Shitter
red harbour redemption
In the files from red dead 2 on pc, that the letter on Gavin’s friend was supposed to be restraining order, but for some reason it got changed to a letter from Tom.
The horses on the train track💀
That horse better run away from that train!
Haha! You saw it too! Bro just got separated from his group. U need to run booy.
@samclappers5420 haha run he gon kill you!!!
“A lot of players think this could be Gavin running away from Nigel even though there is not a single thing connecting a character we’ve never seen to this random NPC on a train”
Horse was running for his life while you was breaking that down for us.
Somewhere i can hear Michael screaming at Gavin
It's Michael Scott running away from Jan.
I totally forgot that man who's always looking for his friend Gavin😂
Gavin either ran off or he was killed by the serial killer in valentine.
Or he doesn't exist
Wait am I the only one that hasn’t seen this guy I just ride past
Gavin is the strange man
The strange man is trelawny
@ that means John would’ve recognized him in rdr1
@@cellousow301 true
It's just a guy who nearly missed the train
Nigel is Gavin
@@Celebrimbor_LIVES nah, if you loot him, you can read the letter sent for both of them, Nigel and Gavin, from someone else (I think his name was Tom). It also explained their story
Ive heard that Gavin is actually the Giant...
I am a little tall
I thought I was a joke about gaviscon cough syrup “gav is gon”
I always thought Trelawny was Gavin. I thought Trelawny tricked Nigel somewhere down the line and left the guy broke
I'd like to think that Gavin ended up ina different time than him during the time traveling and Gavin is the one who knew how to get back but went to far back so he can't.
You can in fact catch up to that train
Except we know it not because you can find the note on the guy that explains that Gavin is his alternate personality.
What.
The note you can loot from Nigel is from a childhood friend of both men named Tom that clearly refers to them as two separate people. He even mentions speaking to both men's mothers separately.
@ That’s only true if you take it at face value
@@MrContemplationTheres no reason not to. The letter hints that Nigel is a pathological liar. Occam's Razor says Gavin got tired of Nigel and left him.
Nigel writing himself a letter essentially calling himself a liar as a now THIRD personality named Tom while inventing an entire backstory of how all three personalities are lifelong friends and know each other's mothers(two of whom wouldn't actually exist), while ALSO inventing a story of how the third personality beat someone up in a whole other country for bad mouthing one of the other personalities is a little bit of a stretch.
i swear in rdr 2 you can come acrossed a guy named gavin whis been hung by the skinner brothers. he even leaves a note and no a minute or so passed that you see the guy calling for gavin walking aimlessly down the road looking for him.
By the time of the skinners Nigel has been looking for gavin for years. It doesn't make sense
Yeah but wasnt that guy looking for gavin long before arthur shows?
WE GOT GAVEN BEFORE GTA 6 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
My guess is the theory were Tom Francis the time traveler’s dad (can’t remember his last name) goes with Gavin through time some how before because if you kill Nigel he has a letter from someone named Tom saying he knows where Gavin is
Yup I guessed he was a time traveler too somehow or close to that
Dear Nigel,
I was so happy to hear from you. I cannot believe it, mate! My two friends - you and Gavin, boys I grew up with now real rich and successful cowboys in America! That's incredible news. Well done, mate Seriously. Well done. I know you and Gavin would find success over there . I mean, it stands to reason. A pair of boys from little old Maidenhead, Berkshire, now successful over in America. I might come and join you myself.
Now that you two have done so well. Both of you rich and living in big mansions with servants, and all them cattle. I remember when the height of your ambition was pretending you were a Londoner and seeing if you fooled those Scotch boys we met by the barracks. Funny thing is, Gavin never mentioned none of this in his letter, but he always was a bit of a quiet one and I reckon you wrote after he did. Either way, I am mode up for the pair of you. Made up. Cowboys! Millionaires! We miss you,
especially your Mum, since your Dad passed on, but she told me she was so proud of you. Even Gavin's Ma was happy. She said her usual piece about not thinking you had it in you, but she smiled and said she knew her boy would see sense or make sense or something eventually. Berkshire forever.
Your pal, Tom
P.S. I saw that bloke Brian Gold the other day, in the market. He said some real odd things about you, which I said weren't true. Bet he's laughing on the other side of his face now...
This is the letter. Where does he say he knows where gavin is?
Ok I remember the name now Frances and Tom Sinclair Rokus Francis Sinclair was in rdr1
AHHHH THE HORSE ON THE BRIDGE NO
Gavin is actually jack from the future
Rip the horse at the end
If I was Gavin, I'd have ran far away also.
So you're telling me I shot Nigel for no reason each play through
you can find gavin
As a guy named Gavin, I was pleasantly shocked to hear my name so often throughout RDR2 lol 😆
I never noticed that guy before
I chased and robbed that train, same with the stranger mission where at the end of the cutscene the guy leaves for the train, managed to get over 400$ on each
I doubt this is Gavin because you can see that npc model that jumped on the train roaming in Valentine
Gavin was one of the serial killer’s victims
Nah, I’m alive
@@gavinstricklin9512 WE FOUND GAVIN
me watching this while my name is Gavin
👁️👄👁️
I thought he found Gavin dead in on rock
Harbulary batterys.
Speak softly of Gavin, and only, in the Twilight Zone.
Wasn't it already confirmed that gavin was supposed to be the gaint you could've find inside some cave
(Cut content)
The time traveler is gavin
You know who else is Gavin 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you’re mom 🤣🤣🔥
@@Carsdn01Haha... You're so funny 😐
@ you know who else is so funy 🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥 you’re mom!!!
@@Carsdn01 ouch! 🔥
@MitsukixIanhaha he got you good. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thats micheal scott
Cain is gavin.
surprise surprise!!! still after 6 years.
poor Gavin and nigel
GAVIN!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Isn't there a letter if you kill Nigel that says he accidentally killed Gavin?
GAVIN?!?!
No that’s just u thinking it’s gavin
NAGEL IS GAVIN THAT'S=
In my wandering I found evidence that Nigel is Gavin
You do know theres a note on nigel you can loot that explains pretty much that the guy has split personality disorder and that Gavin is one of his made up personalities? Dont know about that R* inside joke part but that much i know.
GAVIN?!!
I know this probably isn’t the case but do u think this is a reference to of mice and men where the main character climbs into a train carriage to leave the ranch? Probs not the case but it’s a theory
Lets say yes, but we all know gavin is not even in the game script. Gavin is a past version of nagel. After he became crazy. Now he call him self nagel and looking for his best friend gavin. His own past self.
Gavin is a personality of Nigel
GAAAAAVIN!
Yes?
rdr community just desperate to find gavin
I did take out nigel tho, got irritated by Gavin Gavin gavin
Dude 🤯 you craked the code
Could be Isaac Morgan
Then why the hell would he be going towards Rhodes
Was Gavin the guy ? Or was Gavin the deer lol running from the train lol
Gavin!, gavin!, im looking for my friend have you seen him? His name is Gavin
Hello, friend!
Bro i name my horse Gavin
It's not Gavin is Nigel
I just saw bro like 2days ago on my 2nd play through
The guy who's looking for Gavin is not Gavin because if you kill in I'm the 2 or first game idk he has a not that says his name
Nigel is in rhodes/blackwater
No he’s everywhere
He started in valentine where he lost Gavin. I think Gavin was murdered by the serial killer there.
Cringe. Rockstar puts unsolvable mysteries in their games constantly. If it aint the files, it aint there.
I akways found it wierd you cant romance the females from the camp
I think that would have been pretty uanessacry. The game has a mostly defined story it wants to tell and adding a dating simulator would be a distraction from it.
Go west young man blaze a trail 😊
Well Gavin is Nigel so no
That shit doesnt even make sense
n then gavin did it doggie style?
Gavin dissappearing is a canon event
I'm Gavin
No
I’m Gavin
Is there any consequences for killing Nigel? He's really annoying.
I found gavin like 3 years ago. People still haven't found him.lmao
Me when I lie lmao
Gaaavvvviiinnnnn!! Im looking for Gavin!!
Literally 0 evidence
Can confirm
That's confirmed to be gavin
With what evidence? People jus making shii up
If u kill and / or rob the nigel, u find gavin isnt real or atleast not around
There a medical note
Your name is fitting, because no it don't.
Nigel is Gavin. He has dissociative identity disorder & the Gavin personality went away. Think fight club
If you kill Nigel you can loot a letter from a childhood friend that talks about both of them as separate people. The letter also hints that Nigel is a pathological liar, which is probably why Gavin abandoned him.
Gavin and Nigel are the same person.
Hogtie and loot Nigel for letter that proves his condition.
It clearly establishes them as two separate people.
😮
❤
Uhmmmnn shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Found you gavin
GAVIN!
ITS HIM
Fellow Gavin
Really I thought it was Chris from family guy
Mary kinda fine
Nigel is Gavin