I just replaced the stock struts on my 2012, and they had a 2.5" Mammoth leveling kit previously installed . I replaced them with a set of 2" Rancho leveling struts. I found that whoever added the leveling kit to the OEM struts didn't have the truck aligned, causing premature tire wear. After you install any suspension upgrade, GET AN ALIGNMENT!!!
Just put my spacers on, even though it was only 2 inches, made the truck look way better, and still rides great. Super cheap if you have all the tools at home. Heat gun and penetrating oil if your trucks little older like my 2011.
I bought my ecoboost used and love it I was wondering why mine looks SO much better than another one in my work parking lot it has a leveling kit! looks so much better lol
I installed the 3inch mammoth leveling kit with 2inch in rear. I was able to install 20x12.5x35 with 60 negative offset. With alot of trimming. This level kit is a great product.
I had to trim part of my front bumper. Bumper spacers would have worked too. But I opted to cut it. Also had to cut behind the tire on the fender liner and the actual metal on truck. Click on my picture and I give a full depth description on how I did it. Hope this helps.
@@joelemard9162 2014 has a different lower control arm that changes how the shock attaches so it's done with 4 small bolts on two straps instead of one large through bolt. It is more similar to the 2015. 24-256759 for the 2014, 24-248129 for the 2015. Different part numbers. So 2014 has it's own special version.
Just bought the 2" Rough County Leveling Kit from Amarican trucks. Once installed I mounted a 35/ 12.5 on a 17" rim. The rim off set was a -34. I had to do very little triming just to make sure I had no rub. The Leveling Kit did raise the front of the truck a half inch above the rear. Be sure to watch Amarican Trucks installation video. It was very informative.
Took me a hour to find the rims but, they are fuel d515- pump. Not sure about the tires. I am definitely putting something similar on my truck for tires with the exact rims.
If I bought the 3 inch mammoth would that be all I need to level my truck out or do I need to buy longer control arms like the guy from good year told me I need to?
Even the 2" strut extensions cause the front control arms to contact the springs on even mild articulation changes. The CVs bind up all the time too. The upper ball joints will wear out extremely fast as well. I have the rough country lift struts and I massively regret it. High should be gained by spring pre load like the bilstien struts.
Terrence Jones Same thing happened to me with a 2” spacer. Removed it and installed Bilstein 5100’s up front and in the rear. I maxed it out to the highest setting and it rises fine. Had to have all ball joints replaced as well as tie rods/ ends. Major alignment issues with the spacers.
Every truck is different.Measure the front and back height before buying. I installed 2 1/2 " level in my 2014 STX and it its perfect. Personally I feel that 3 inches lifts the front slightly higher than the rear on alot of trucks
Actually it will. Any time you raise the front of your vehicle, you *really* need to aim your headlights back down so they're pointed to the road instead of in the trees. -Zach
Will the 2 inch level be perfectly level or slightly lower in the front still? Don't like the rear to be lower at all. Just put 34.1 inch Ko2s on and would like some extra breathing room in the front but hate the look of the rear being lower. 2014 Supercrew 4x4
So when I installed a 3.5 inch on my 2013 F-150 STX 2wd the upper control arm rubbed on the shock. When I drop the truck down when it come off the shock a little bit and adjust itself or should I settle with a 3” lift?
I have a 2014 f150. I want to level it by 2inches. I was told by kal tire in Canada that the rear would have to be lifted by 1 inch according to there book...? I don’t think so
If installed correctly and there are no existing issues with your truck there shouldn't be any problems. Usually anyone who has acoribjen with my these didn't install them correctly or their truck already was having issues
They have the rear end higher than the front for when you use your truck for truck stuff! That extra height evens out when you have a heavy load in the bed, or when you're towing. -Zach
Honestly I do not understand leveling kits. The back of your truck is higher to help with sag when towing and hauling stuff in the box. Once you level it you are now dealing with rear end sag, to me that looks much worse. Just lift the whole thing front and rear.
I personally don't mind some rake on lifted trucks, even if I'm not towing or hauling heavy loads in the bed. But for people who don't do "truck stuff" too often, leveling kits are a nice option if you prefer the leveled look. -Zach
Correct- the leveling kits in this video simply address the front. There will be options out there that offer parts for the rear as well but we didn't select any of those for this best of. -Justin
@@americantrucks everyone I talk to about adding the 3 inch lift kit says you need to replace the control arms aswell. Is this true? Should I send back my 3 inch and go with the 2.5?
3" will destroy CVs and upper ball joints. Stay under 2.5. 2" will keep it reliable. Look at the f150 forums. Anyone who tried 3" will tell you... all the problems.
@@Mulingko Agreed, I am now on my third CV shaft (front driver's side) with my 2014 F150 with a 3" leveling kit and 2018 Ford Raptor takeoffs (35"). The angle tears the rubber boots apart. Looking for a 2-2.5" option to keep this from happening again.
ATO Offroad off Wilson Road on the westside. Sorry I don't have their number handy. They've done some Jeep work for me at their Cincinnati store. Was pleased with the work done.
I went to there website. And clicked on there 3-4" lift kits to clear 35's... And checked on a 2011 and then a 2012 Ford F-150 4wd 5.0l Supercrew and Supercab 4x4 and it says they don't have anything that will work for these trucks in a XL or a XLT as I tried both on there website.. Idk what the color of my truck has to do with anything personally.. Just a total waste of my time..
From my research usually 2 inches levels it. I’d go with the 2.5 just to have a little wiggle room for a bigger tire and if the trucks cabin is loaded with people.
amazon will always be better prices for the same quality accessories. This company overcharging for most of their items ill never shop here for my f150
This stuff is all junk and will kill your ride quality, I have a spacer level kit. Its most noticeable negative effect is when going into slight curves doing speeds of 40 and up (which is a big deal). If road conditions are slippery or wet I always feel the offset bounce the spacer gave me will force the rear to lose traction. Theres nothing smooth about it. You have a nice truck, spend the extra 200 bucks and buy a strut kit.
@@ScottAnd Because you like many others dont mind a terrible ride quality and sacrificing poor geometry to save a few hundred bucks and do it proper. If these were a solution to clearance and looks, the mfg would do this already prolly in some sort of package or whatever. TH-cam is a wonderful place to get paid to advertise and say things are great. Go to a forum with truck owners similar to yourself I didnt say not to do this. I simply said this is a hack way or a shortcut using junk parts to achieve what your looking for. Notice how I made a comment involving having one on my truck. I to was cheap and decided that losing traction and having a stressed suspension is not worth the risk of losing control.
@@chevrock22 Keep posing soyboy.You have no clue what you are talking about. When these are installed by someone who knows what they are doing you won't have have any issues.Dealers or specialty shops install these all the time. If your truck had front end problems before the install then its your fault. Again there are people like me who didn't sacrifice shit.No handling problems, no noise, no stiff ride. It is however recommended getting a front end alignment after install.Its the same smooth ride and wont affect the truck the way you say it does.Contrary to your comments, you aren't the text book example of leveling spacers.Sounds like You refuse to believe that anyone had a different outcome than you. Im aware of the problems people had like you.But to insist that its junk or you are correct is narcissistic, get over yourself
If you're at all competent with hand tools this is not rocket science. Its all removing and reinstalling bolts, if you have a problem with that pay a shop to do it for you.
I just replaced the stock struts on my 2012, and they had a 2.5" Mammoth leveling kit previously installed . I replaced them with a set of 2" Rancho leveling struts. I found that whoever added the leveling kit to the OEM struts didn't have the truck aligned, causing premature tire wear.
After you install any suspension upgrade, GET AN ALIGNMENT!!!
Yep!! Any time you do ANYTHING to modify your suspension, you're gonna *really need* an alignment for everything to perform properly. -Zach
Just put my spacers on, even though it was only 2 inches, made the truck look way better, and still rides great. Super cheap if you have all the tools at home. Heat gun and penetrating oil if your trucks little older like my 2011.
I bought my ecoboost used and love it I was wondering why mine looks SO much better than another one in my work parking lot it has a leveling kit! looks so much better lol
I installed the 3inch mammoth leveling kit with 2inch in rear. I was able to install 20x12.5x35 with 60 negative offset. With alot of trimming. This level kit is a great product.
What trimming did you have to do, and do you have any rub off road?
I had to trim part of my front bumper. Bumper spacers would have worked too. But I opted to cut it. Also had to cut behind the tire on the fender liner and the actual metal on truck. Click on my picture and I give a full depth description on how I did it. Hope this helps.
Anthony Hamner. Sorry bud forgot to answer the question. No I do not have any rubbing what so ever.
Hey bro, is it completely level or is the front a bit higher than the back?
@@Kopester the back sat a little higher than front. Tow purposes.
Missed the best option: Bilstein 5100s. Not only do you get better shocks at the same time as leveling, but you aren't overextending your suspension.
will this fit a 2014 f150? I can only find kits for 2015+
@@joelemard9162 2014 has a different lower control arm that changes how the shock attaches so it's done with 4 small bolts on two straps instead of one large through bolt. It is more similar to the 2015. 24-256759 for the 2014, 24-248129 for the 2015. Different part numbers. So 2014 has it's own special version.
Rancho struts are a better option than 5100 series Bilstein s
@@josephlinsalato9602 No, Rancho doesn't even come close.
@@rmkilc You are manufactured biased blind!
Just bought the 2" Rough County Leveling Kit from Amarican trucks. Once installed I mounted a 35/ 12.5 on a 17" rim. The rim off set was a -34.
I had to do very little triming just to make sure I had no rub.
The Leveling Kit did raise the front of the truck a half inch above the rear.
Be sure to watch Amarican Trucks installation video. It was very informative.
American*
Looking to purchase a leveling kit for my F150 soon, very helpful reviews!
What tires, rims, and kit is the silver F150 that Justin is standing next to equipped with?
That’s what I needa know
YEP so we all know that looks great- why is there no answer?
Please someone answer this! Lol
Took me a hour to find the rims but, they are fuel d515- pump. Not sure about the tires. I am definitely putting something similar on my truck for tires with the exact rims.
@@jarrettplatz7508 thanks 🙏
The stock tire, 265/70-17 is already 31.6". The stock tire 285/65-18 is already 32.6.
If I bought the 3 inch mammoth would that be all I need to level my truck out or do I need to buy longer control arms like the guy from good year told me I need to?
the site says the mammoth doesn't fit 2014 2wd
What tires are those 35s on the silver one?
Not a fan of lowered front ends May half to get a 2 1/2 levelling kit eventually since they are so affordable
What type of blinker fluid am I supposed to run with these?
Gatorade works well for me
I find Full synthetic works best for me.
Even the 2" strut extensions cause the front control arms to contact the springs on even mild articulation changes. The CVs bind up all the time too. The upper ball joints will wear out extremely fast as well. I have the rough country lift struts and I massively regret it. High should be gained by spring pre load like the bilstien struts.
Terrence Jones
Same thing happened to me with a 2” spacer. Removed it and installed Bilstein 5100’s up front and in the rear. I maxed it out to the highest setting and it rises fine. Had to have all ball joints replaced as well as tie rods/ ends. Major alignment issues with the spacers.
I really like your videos
Define "level" and then ask "Why are there three different height choices to get it 'level'?" Which one ACTUALLY gets it level?
Chris a 2” will make it level, I have a 09’ 4x4 platinum and it looks great
Every truck is different.Measure the front and back height before buying. I installed 2 1/2 " level in my 2014 STX and it its perfect. Personally I feel that 3 inches lifts the front slightly higher than the rear on alot of trucks
when raised, the illumination of the headlights does not affect other drivers
Actually it will. Any time you raise the front of your vehicle, you *really* need to aim your headlights back down so they're pointed to the road instead of in the trees. -Zach
What tires and kit does the silver F150 have in the beginning of the video?
Really helpful thanks
I love functional lifts
was there any cutting or trimming with the 35" tires?
Jeff DeBe none for me!
I have 2013 f150 reg cab put on kyb shocks gas adjust. Truck sits level.
Dose the 3 inch bolt on kit by. Rough Country have the cv problem
Will the 2 inch level be perfectly level or slightly lower in the front still? Don't like the rear to be lower at all. Just put 34.1 inch Ko2s on and would like some extra breathing room in the front but hate the look of the rear being lower. 2014 Supercrew 4x4
Just put the 2 inch kit on my truck, the front now sits 1 inch lower than the back, to me, that's perfect.. looking for 33 or 34's next...
Will there be any front end geometry changes with a 2” leveling kit? Or alignment issues?
Old Street Doc not really but if you go over that it might speed up the rate your front end components wear
So when I installed a 3.5 inch on my 2013 F-150 STX 2wd the upper control arm rubbed on the shock. When I drop the truck down when it come off the shock a little bit and adjust itself or should I settle with a 3” lift?
What did you end up doing?
I have a 2014 f150. I want to level it by 2inches. I was told by kal tire in Canada that the rear would have to be lifted by 1 inch according to there book...? I don’t think so
If all you want is the front of your truck leveled out, you can absolutely just level the front and not touch the rear. 😁 -Zach
2009 xlt super crew leveling kit? 4.6L 3V V8 2WD... If that matters...
What does a leveling kit do to the ride?
my spacers ride like shit. Just being honest. Some guys on here are to proud to say it. 2" spacer is what i got.
If installed correctly and there are no existing issues with your truck there shouldn't be any problems. Usually anyone who has acoribjen with my these didn't install them correctly or their truck already was having issues
I got 2 in and it rides just fine, no difference noted.
Why can’t the 2013 3” fit on the 2014 need help fitting 20x12 -44 will 2.5 work
Ryan Owens the 2014 is different from all the other kits
Ryan Owens -44 offset will rub like crazy
5:05 I cant decide which I find more entertaining, the subject matter, or the guy's head movement and facial expressions
Can someone explain why they set the rake at the factory as they do.
They have the rear end higher than the front for when you use your truck for truck stuff! That extra height evens out when you have a heavy load in the bed, or when you're towing. -Zach
Can someone answer this . Will it kill my gas millage if I just get the 2” rough country ?? Cause I really enjoy the fuel economy
because you're a tightwad who eats beans and shares a house with 10 families.
No price for the mammoth?
Tires on the silver F150 he is standing next to?
Nitto Ridgegrapplers
@@Torothebronxbull I don't believe so. Look like an M/T to me
@@Dolphindil They clearly say Nitto Ridgegrapplers right on their sides
Honestly I do not understand leveling kits. The back of your truck is higher to help with sag when towing and hauling stuff in the box. Once you level it you are now dealing with rear end sag, to me that looks much worse. Just lift the whole thing front and rear.
I personally don't mind some rake on lifted trucks, even if I'm not towing or hauling heavy loads in the bed. But for people who don't do "truck stuff" too often, leveling kits are a nice option if you prefer the leveled look. -Zach
Can a 2 inch leveling kit work with 33×12 tires on a 20×12 rims?
It should, as long as you're not too crazy on the offset. -Justin
@@americantrucks what tires and rims are on the silver f150 that Jason's standing behind!? Thanks
@@americantrucks Define too crazy on the offset
So these kits are just strut spacers there’s no rear blocks or shocks or anything with it?
Correct- the leveling kits in this video simply address the front. There will be options out there that offer parts for the rear as well but we didn't select any of those for this best of. -Justin
My truck has air suspension in the rear. How does this effect me getting a level kit??
I put a level with rear air bags. Still had a slight rake after front 2in level. Looks a lot better now.
what does stock or similar offset mean?
I said it in the video, basically +20 or higher. Stock offset for these particular trucks are +44. -Justin
Does lower height mean better fuel economy?
Typically the factory 'rake' does attribute to slightly better fuel economy. -Justin
@@americantrucks everyone I talk to about adding the 3 inch lift kit says you need to replace the control arms aswell. Is this true? Should I send back my 3 inch and go with the 2.5?
Leveling kit **
Dose the 3 inch kit put alot of stress on the up a frames ball joints
It puts the front CV angles at a less than ideal position, especially if you do a lot of heavy off-roading. -Justin
3" will destroy CVs and upper ball joints. Stay under 2.5. 2" will keep it reliable. Look at the f150 forums. Anyone who tried 3" will tell you... all the problems.
Yes yes it does
@@Mulingko Agreed, I am now on my third CV shaft (front driver's side) with my 2014 F150 with a 3" leveling kit and 2018 Ford Raptor takeoffs (35"). The angle tears the rubber boots apart. Looking for a 2-2.5" option to keep this from happening again.
Why is there only very few 2 door lifted f150's trying to find some ideas but for some reason theirs not very many
Check out custom offsets gallery, I’m sure you’ve already found it tho.
@@rydersanders3466 I have not, thanks for the suggestion! Much appreciated!
What are the tires show here?
Patrick Elliott nitto mud grapplers
I like the first option. Do you know a shop in the columbus, ohio area to have them installed?
ATO Offroad off Wilson Road on the westside. Sorry I don't have their number handy. They've done some Jeep work for me at their Cincinnati store. Was pleased with the work done.
I went to there website. And clicked on there 3-4" lift kits to clear 35's...
And checked on a 2011 and then a 2012 Ford F-150 4wd 5.0l Supercrew and Supercab 4x4 and it says they don't have anything that will work for these trucks in a XL or a XLT as I tried both on there website.. Idk what the color of my truck has to do with anything personally.. Just a total waste of my time..
I was told that using the strut spacers gave you a ruff ride and wasn't good on the front end.
Gary Clark I have a strut spacer on my 13 and it beats me off road. I'll be replacing them with Fox Coilovers and BDS tubular upper control arms.
0:10 like to see it with a lowered leveling kit
How much would it affect my MPG?
Gerson Ramirez the tires affect MPG the most so maybe only 1 mpg with just the leveling because of aerodynamic changes
Negatively
Has anyone ever tried 35" tires with the hard plastic factory mud flaps with the 2" rough country leveling kit?
Daniel Fude 35s fit me with this kit but I dont have the mud flaps
1.5-3 inch leveling kits ... which one is level ?
From my research usually 2 inches levels it. I’d go with the 2.5 just to have a little wiggle room for a bigger tire and if the trucks cabin is loaded with people.
amazon will always be better prices for the same quality accessories. This company overcharging for most of their items ill never shop here for my f150
which 35" tires are on the 2 inch leveling kit?
Bennett Hanson Nitto mud grapplers
Why doesn't ford do this off the line
You look like Justin from American muscle . Com
He's my less handsome twin. -Justin
Love the SCAB who is using their truck as a daily? Literally you have a 6.5 ft bed, the four door is for soccer moms.
This stuff is all junk and will kill your ride quality, I have a spacer level kit. Its most noticeable negative effect is when going into slight curves doing speeds of 40 and up (which is a big deal). If road conditions are slippery or wet I always feel the offset bounce the spacer gave me will force the rear to lose traction. Theres nothing smooth about it. You have a nice truck, spend the extra 200 bucks and buy a strut kit.
Calling it junk because you have an issue with it seems a little pretentious.Explain why alot of people,myself included, have no problem with it.
@@ScottAnd Because you like many others dont mind a terrible ride quality and sacrificing poor geometry to save a few hundred bucks and do it proper. If these were a solution to clearance and looks, the mfg would do this already prolly in some sort of package or whatever. TH-cam is a wonderful place to get paid to advertise and say things are great. Go to a forum with truck owners similar to yourself I didnt say not to do this. I simply said this is a hack way or a shortcut using junk parts to achieve what your looking for. Notice how I made a comment involving having one on my truck. I to was cheap and decided that losing traction and having a stressed suspension is not worth the risk of losing control.
@@chevrock22 Keep posing soyboy.You have no clue what you are talking about. When these are installed by someone who knows what they are doing you won't have have any issues.Dealers or specialty shops install these all the time. If your truck had front end problems before the install then its your fault. Again there are people like me who didn't sacrifice shit.No handling problems, no noise, no stiff ride. It is however recommended getting a front end alignment after install.Its the same smooth ride and wont affect the truck the way you say it does.Contrary to your comments, you aren't the text book example of leveling spacers.Sounds like You refuse to believe that anyone had a different outcome than you. Im aware of the problems people had like you.But to insist that its junk or you are correct is narcissistic, get over yourself
@@ScottAnd lol. When I click on your name it looks like you specialize in love song playlists.
@@chevrock22 Yup. Just what I thought. Deflecting the topic when the debate didn't go as planned huh?
Love the style of these years for the f15 new bow ties look gay
Get what u pay for. Cheap, crap!!!!!!
Do it right!!!😁
Get educated moron.
Super easy to install? For who?! Are you saying that to make yourself feel more competent than everyone watching? Or maybe just to sell more of them?
If you're at all competent with hand tools this is not rocket science. Its all removing and reinstalling bolts, if you have a problem with that pay a shop to do it for you.
That guy is weird and needs to mellow out.
Eh- I'm pretty mellow but thanks for the feedback 'Brent'. -Justin