These New Alienation Chain Tensioners Are SICK!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- These new chain tensioners from Alienation are a simple and elegant solution to a long time problem BMX has dealt with from the beginning!
Built in chain tensioners can break and also have to be loosened in order to remove the rear wheel of a bike. These Alienation c jerks are easily removed and essentially put the rear wheel in a slammed state at any position in the drop out. Such a cool solution that is available now!
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Great idea but nobody is going to be able to figure out what size they need
This is cool, they should try and sell all 7 sizes in one kit, to make it simpler to purchase, and a guaranteed fit.
Also would be easier for stores to stock them
Remember “simple wheel slammers” or something like that from sidewall distro… similar product, looks clean.
Also with peg adapters they were bigger and perfect size these look smaler
I got some but mine were 2mm too small. It's easy to measure wrong when you're talking about a half a mm. Like crazy easy. I'd talk to who your buying them from and, if you have the money, buy 3 sizes you think will be close and return the 2 that don't fit. They're expensive. Like $35. $35 is a fair amount of money to just "throw away" if you get it wrong. They should think of a slightly better way to make them. Maybe have a screw that adjust them for more length. I'd also HIGHLY recommend a spline drive sprocket!!! As we all know, this much chain tension is going pull on your sprocket bolt and grind that sprocket hole bigger. Making the chain move a mm or 2 & negating these once again. This won't happen with a spline drive. They'll stay nice and snug. With all that said, if you have a spline drive and the correct fit, these are a game changer & give you peace of mind knowing the back wheel wont slip.
So glad someone brought this idea back. I’ve been looking for something like these for years.
Also a good way to make sure your wheel is always sitting straight!
I think it's a good idea if you have the correct fit. It's not always going to be correct first try. Might have to get 2 sizings and return one. Also, why are the sizes written on the part of the washers that you could see? Should be written on the backside.
27 10 with no half link is the bees knees , find the right size and slam that shit.
adjustable tensioners play nice, these might not, its a cleaner look though.
simple bikes made these 15 years ago
Good idea then, good idea now.
Do they make them anymore?
@@Brant_Moore worth giving credit where it is due
@@Brant_Moore they do.. Simple Bike Co. Wheel Slammers and their actually available at my local shop I got some of those but they're not compatible with pegs (just like the alienations) so they're useless for me atm🥲
They're also available for 3/8 axles so you can technically make your fork work like shadows adjustable forks lol
I need these but I'm having issues with the size I need
What’re your issues?
Cool little thing, can sure help especially on new complete bikes. Might need 2 sizes for when replacing the chain. I used to sell salt chain tensioners as "frame savers", keeps the dropouts from bending in so its a bonus feature!
Tree used to sell something just like these
I made a set of pegs w/ tensioners built in on my old aluminum frame but it had 3/8s axles, I was also running 48/16 gearing w/ double wall 48 spoke rims.... It was a different time. LoL
ok thats friggin beautiful.. pegs with wheel slammers
I imagine there will be a lot of returns with people ordering the wrong size and with people who’s wheel is not perfectly laced centrally
Exactly. A smarter idea would be just to have one adjustable option, instead of multiple sizes.
Tighten the crap out of everything , but don't strip it . You won't need tensioners on American made drops.
A wheel essentially being slammed and not able to move is definitely a positive but the main point is to not have to struggle with wheel placement or chain tension. Something like this makes it easy to get just right and repeat every time.
I don’t think you understand what chain tensioners are for. I mean the clue is in the name. They’re for getting fine adjustment and holding your wheel in place while you tighten up.
….and that’s where these completely fall down. Literally zero adjustment. Zero, none, nadda. Every time you get a new sprocket, chain or driver your chain tension will be completely different and may even require you to buy another different size of these things. Just a bad concept all round.
I just thinking this😊
Would these work on colony female axles
15 years ago I took old DK chain tensioners and flipped them around and grind it to fit like this I still have them on my old BMX bike today
This video was mentioned on bmx museum. I’ve been struggling with keeping a good chain tension on these short dropouts. Great job with the vid, Brant!
Make these in 10mm options pleaseeee
Cool product. I'm sure I saw something like this over a decade ago. Personally, I prefer integrated chain tensioners but these would do a better job of holding your wheel exactly where you want it, whereas integrated ones will bend if the rear wheel takes a hard enough hit. On a side note, I always get jealous when I see Brant's hollow Key Chain.
I think integrated chain tensioners are just for setting up the rear wheel - the axle bolts or nuts should take 100% of the force. I usually find mine have backed out after riding, probably from vibration.
I find it a lot faster to simply pull the wheel to one side of the frame and tighten that side then pull the wheel to the other chain side of the frame and tighten that side. So these precision collars would probably make that process easy without needing to guess chain tension.
Definitely recommend changing chain tensioner screws for stainless steel so they don’t rust and strip.
@@alistairbuckle3450 I agree I think I would break the bolt if hit hard enough
@@alistairbuckle3450 Yea, I find them great for alignment and getting my chain just right. I don't expect them to actually hold the wheel in place. I do my rear nuts up pretty damn tight and haven't had a wheel move in a long time.
I think it was simple that had a similar chain tensioner. But they have not been available for a long time
What is that washer called?
Anti rotation pins ?
I have a 12.75 chainstay, struggling to find balance point with manuals, im hoping by using theses il be able to bring my wheel back abit. Hooing it will help my manuals. I may have to add a link to my chain though..
I really like this idea because it was always said a slamed wheel Never needs to be adjusted again. Unfortunately that's near impossible to do with proper gearing and chain tension. Once you get it right it always loosens off of over time resetting all the "progress" you made. I'm gonna check these out for sure
This reminds me of that one Ali G short about eliminating all denominations of change so we have "just bills." Like the idea of a $37.76 US bill is the same as having Chain Tensioners for all these lengths. You either gotta promise me that trends will no longer stretch or shrink chain stays AND that there is gonna be a way to "stack" tensioners and get longer or shorter lengths for 20"+ bikes.
I'm sold, take my money!
They're linked on the youtube watch page!!
Good concept but a lil late being most frames come with integrated ones
There's plenty of frames on the market that don't...most is not the word I would "some." more like it.
@@steverogers6257 yea but the frames I would choose do
@@ericisabadbadman3978 Bu that's not what you said at all. That's cool, but you said most frames come with them already not the ones I would want already come with them. lol
@@steverogers6257 haha I mis spoke my bad
Put some on a couple months ago.
IMO kinda a pain in the 🫏 getting on and off...
Simple used to make some of those in a small size, just about the size of a spacer like the ones used with the axle nuts, then a bigger spacer that fit right over that one and it was about peg size. I tried them but they didn't work for me cause the filler piece had a shape that didn't fit perfectly at all between the front of the axle and the end of the dropout slot, so I started making my own out of just a small piece of 14 ga spoke that I would shape up with pliers and that worked perfect. I'm currently using a 3/32 chain pin on each side and it's the best thing since sliced bread
Hilarious that you werent able to get the right size. I challenge you to measure and buy for another bike im willing to get you dont get a good result.
I’m literally riding a set on my bike right now Mr Fuchew. Haha
@@Brant_Moore He just wants to hear that you messed up your first measurement and had to rebuy them. (I did 😅😥)
Rad. I want some lol. Pulling my bike out the basement after 3-4 years and immediately trying to get it as dialed as i can
I will 100% be looking into these I'm using cheap Amazon ones that use screws right now.
i used to stuff ball bearings in my drop out / under my peg. this seems a better choice , lol
I'm in Australia but can't find them, do you have a link
I already contacted Albe's about these. I'll definitely get them.
Curious to hear your thoughts once you do!
@@Brant_Moore Albe's has them now, but they're out of the 2 sizes I would choose from. DOH! I take my pegs on and off depending on where I'm going, and my frame has no tensioners. So these are going to make my life easier.
Hmm they might be available from dans?
Oh dude mine just broke so I'm happy this popped up lol
Perfect! Haha they’re on albes now
@@Brant_Moore perfect, bought. Thanks man!
Very similar to simple slammers except these look like they will last
I rebuilt my front wheel with a illuminati. Love it.
Simple wheel slammers and they had the large peg washer
Or use a traditional chain tensioner?
lol, that hair
Is beautiful
Looks a lot like the simple drop out spacers
How I wish I could have one
yo! thanks for the word on these, def gonna try a set
Heck yea looking forward to hearing what you think!
hey any opinions on these?
Smart
That seems like a really cool idea. I kinda want some. I never trust my wheel placement, this would eliminate that
Great band, good name lol
Haha the first person to comment on the name!
nice hair helmet!
Thanks, I love it!
That looks pretty sweet I might have to get a eat of these.
Don’t eat ‘em in one bite though!
@@Brant_Moore lol guess I should have read that before I posted it.
its literally an exact copy