It's a serious question! I slept two years on a futon on the floor and consequently didn't invite anyone over. Yes it's my choice I know, but I was too poor for a futon bed frame but I also didn't want to compromise on sleep comfort.
I slept on a memory foam mattress topper on the floor for a year, so same concept. Sex was good! You have the opportunity to use the floor too without having to step down or anything. It works out okay, or at least it does when she's not a fuckin starfish
@@TheSkillBuilderX i see. Guess your are pretty resistant to cold then… in my case when it gets really cold i still need a mattress between me and the floor
Actually, in our traditional Japanese way, we sun-dry futons in backyard almost everyday for sanitary and for the joy of smelling outside air and sun when you get in futons at night😊
Although probably not as much as in UK, we too have a long rainy season :) We use futon drier to make futons as fluffy as possible. Nowadays, sadly, most households don’t have backyard and many apartments ban to put your futons outside since it doesn’t look good. Using futon drier is actually the norm in urban area life. Thanks for your comment:) Bye now.
@@Gieszkanne You hang your futon on the railing of the balcony, or fold it and put it in the cupboard - there are special closets for this. Most Japanese do not sleep on tatami, the futon is on the floor. Also Japanese futon are made of polyester, not cotton, which makes them very resistant to mold in the first place.
I'm 66, bought my shikibuton and kakefuton in 2011 right after my *fancy name brand memory foam mattress* tried to kill me, and I started looking for something that wouldn't. I found J-Life International back then and bought the organic cotton 4" mattress, the bedding, the buckwheat hull pillows, and it worked in my place then to store everything during the day in my closet. When I moved, that didn't work anymore, so I bought a $100 bare wood single bed frame from Amazon, and later bought a $150 (or so?) tatami mat to help the mattress breathe. I will never go back to the "American" way of mattress, box springs, down pillows and all that. That's 13 years on my one 4" organic cotton (no sprayed-on chemicals) mattress. I did open it up at one point (2014?) and filled it in with some organic cotton quilt batting and stitched it back up, as it was developing a valley that I didn't like. Haven't messed with it since. It's cool to see you guys talking about this! I'm not married, and there was only one opportunity in my life a few years ago to test-drive the idea of having a guy stay overnight. That didn't work well. He sleeps on and loves his *name brand chemical-filled pit of death* that I refuse to go near ever again.
LMFAO ! *_"chemical filled pit of death"_* So true. We are slowly killing ourselves in the West. We do everything just the way the medical industry likes it.....bad for us = 💰good for them.
I am 58 and I sleep on the floor on a normal carped covered with a bedsheet. I have been doing this for years after a back and knee pain from my work place. Since then I have no pain anywhere from my joints and back. I don't know how, but when I am going to sleep I feel like any discomfort I have will come off during the night, and it does. It is totally different feeling.
RE: sleeping on the ground. I used to live in Georgetown, TX, a bit out in the country Austin suburb. What really drove me nuts was every day, every night, I would get 2-4 scorpions in the house. Usually I'd catch them when I woke up to pee - always had to turn the lights on. So. Sleeping on the floor has some disadvantages in places with a lot of bugs.
foam mattresses require to be raised off the floor with something that can give circulation to it. They trap in a lot of sweat and can cause bacteria. Plus they trap in heat.
@@AdrienneS1970 Yes the same with foutons. Thats why you have to roll them up over the day. But a thin mattress or topper could be leaned up to a wall.
I used to sell mattresses and I can tell you, how much cushion the mattress needs depends on body fat percentage. If you’re heavier, plush is better, if you’re thin, firm is better. It depends how deep you sink. A thin human body has a natural weight balance to it that thinner old style mattresses do fine with.
@@IridescentW right yes i will eat less for 2 days and then immediately lose 150 lbs. Why do yall ppl say this unnecessary stuff? Most of us are tryna lose the weight, and its gonna take years most of the time, do you think we just havent thought about eating less? That thats a new discovery?
I slept on a 8” thick cotton filled futon (very heavy) on top of tatami mats for 15 years. It was really clean barely used when I got it. It is still very clean no stain, dent or lump because I always have it covered with multiple sheets, blankets, and carpets. 2 years ago when I moved to my new place I bought a futon frame for my futon. It is now my only sofa and guest bed in the living room. I got a 6” twin mattress topper. I put it on top of 3 tatami mats and a heavy wood futon frame to be my bed. I sleep alternately between this twin bed and a hammock (both in my bedroom). Other than the Amazon hammock stand ($45), everything was from Craigslist for $20/$30.
You made my day. I’m grandma who had just order a natural tatami bed off floor with the grass Matt and mattress for my back. I once lived in Japan and finally bought a tatami get up awesome bed. 😊❤
I was really glad when I first got rid of my bed, (did so off and on for 15 years.) Namely I like a solid bed and sleeping without a bed frame is awesome. Currently I have had a bed for the last 6 years but, it is still very simple. OH, only worry I had in Texas one time was at a farm house I rented and I realized those were SCORPIONS I heard!! Eeek. I did get a bed. Yeah, sure, they can still climb right up. OH another time I rented another farmhouse near a newly harvested field in Kentucky and experienced, what I call, "the great mouse infestation." Oh, I moved and threw almost every furniture item I had away from there, (mouse urine.) Anyways, but for those two times I loved the floor as the base for my bedding.
I don't care how a guy sleeps but what I do care about is his character. I'm good at making any circumstances of sleeping work. Some people like to have their bed on the floor, Some Like It High and for others, some can't afford it. Especially if they have their own place or even living with roommates I can 100% respect that. I always wanted to sleep on a futon and I probably had in the past but I probably don't remember. It is definitely an option and especially since I have my mattress topper. But seriously, I'm tired of beds sagging on me and losing its support!
I think one of the overlooked benefits of a futon on the floor is the ease of moving if you have to change apartments. A bed frame is typically one of the biggest pieces of furniture you’d have and can make the difference between being able to move house with a car and having to hire a van. Building a bed frame is a straightforward carpentry project and you can design it so it’s demountable into two or three sections for ease of moving. Combined with a foldable or rollable futon, it’s probably the best compromise of comfort and ability to move easily. The ability to store things under the bed is important IMO, so long as you don’t over-do it. Sometimes it’s not about how much space you have but how uncluttered it feels.
Sleeping on the ground so simple and so humble! I know a Marine Corps Recruiter who will hook you up with a four year enlistment in the infantry, (with the option depending on your ASVAB score, to move Into special operations) where you will sleep on the floor, 90% on the time. You can even go in on the Buddy System. Organic, natural and macho.
generally women should not sleep on firm beds due to higher bone and joint porosity, and body curves esp form bone structure like the hips which need more cushioning so the tailbone muscles and tissues are not affected. However there are futons that are super soft and if you must you can always layer 2 on top of each other. This is what I have seen at Ryokan of we explain the person has back ache.
Nice video dude!! However as a 68 year old man I know that a firm sleeping surface has me turning from side to side about every hour. My hip, rib cages and shoulder wakes me up due to the discomfort. Just so you know.
Average person here with an average lifestyle unlike these youtubers. I have slept on a futon on the floor for close to two years and honestly it was fucking annoying to fold and put away my mattress and sheets every day. I loved the hard support i got from my floor but dont get up too quickly or you'll twist and sprain your lower back. Its just a hassle for me personally. Im going back to a raised permanent bed.
I do the same. I bought mine from JLife, the tatami mat makes all the difference. Plus I live on a 3 rd floor apartment in the French Quarter. So moving everything upstairs was amazingly better than trying to haul a mattress. Plus being in the French Quarter; in a 180 year old apartment, I only have like 200 sqft, so putting it away and sitting in the tatami mat definitely works out for the best. Plus it’s just a nice clean aesthetic. Plus I also use straight linen sheets, so it breathes as actually feels like a natural sleeping environment.
Howdy neighbor! I’m from New Orleans as well, and I’ve been thinking about getting a shikibuton. How long have you had yours and how have you been able to air yours out when it gets humid? That’s the one thing I’m worried about since the summers get really humid.
If my dude don’t me not having a bed frame then he can go! 😅 I just purchased a full XL tatami mat and a full XL Japanese futon mattress. I sleep on my stomach so I hope it works well.
♥👍🕶 Good to see that particular bed frame in everyday use, as it's on my short list! Having slept TWO NIGHTS on the floor, sleeping is finally not an act of war and no longer destroying my back. I also now sleep with my *HEAD FACING EAST,* because a north position leads to death, according to an ancient Japanese saying... to which I can attest.
I also bought my futon 5 years ago with tatami matt. I never had the urge to return to a mattress, my back would hurt so bad on normal soft mattresses.
I have scoliosis and always preferred a firmer, thinner mattress. Maybe just enough cushion that it’s not uncomfortable to turn on my side. cheap memory foam works for me but considering more eco friendly materials like wool or cotton when it’s time to get a new one
すばらしい nice, I have the futon shops shiki buton futon it’s the organic cotton 5 inch mattress with the coirpad coconut tatami mats from them and love it. I got their organic cotton cover for it and I found a futon dryer for the winter months to dry it out. Basically a cord/hose that I can set on a 30 or 60 min timer. This helps a lot when I’m unable to take it outside to dry in the sun. I bought some straps and a tarp and a lightweight 2 piece folding queen frame so I can fold the mattress up and pull it with the tarp with handles and set it on the frame outside in the sun. it’s a process so the futon dryer helps a lot but much cleaner than traditional beds 🌱
Hi, can I ask if you don't mind - I've seen that coconut coir mat (I may be sensitive to the tatami rush grass scent) - does it have any noticeable odor?
What is the point of a tatami bed frame? You could just use a regular bed frame. Air can go underneath and keep it dry. But it takes away floor space either way
Latex was mentioned in a list of things that aren’t natural, but there is natural latex and there is synthetic latex. Within the natural latex category you can choose organic latex. I tried sleeping on the floor on a shikibuton and really liked it and how my back felt until a big bug decided to crawl up there with me. I tried out different ways to get the firm sleeping experience but with a raised bed. I opted for a Thuma bed and a firm latex mattress. The mattress isn’t as firm as sleeping on a shikibuton on the floor, but it’s firmer than the standard mattresses I’ve had in the past. My back feels good sleeping on it.
To solve the space hog issue of the bed frame, if they made one into a CONVERTIBLE SOFA style, you’d have the best of both worlds. 🛋️ + 🛌 = 👌 Pass on this suggestion to them, and they’ll have even MORE customers for this product! You guys could be the TH-cam spokespeople for it!
Hey there. I have really bad allergies. And i have 2 dogs and 6 cats. Im so over throwing out mattresses due to dust mites and flea allergies. Are japanese futons good as far as hypoallergenic problems? Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated. Yes, my pets are all medicated monthly like clockwork. I struggle to keep my house super clean everyday. Exterminator comes and sprays. I cant keep the dang fleas and dust out of my mattress. I just put mattress out in garbage. Im tired of suffering and have been looking at japanese futons for a few weeks. Thank you ❣️🤧
Watching other youtubers, i’ve learned it’s normal to hang up your futon everyday to air out, as well as clean the mat often. I’ve heard if you leave a futon on the floor its way worse than a regular mattress in terms of collecting dirt, allergens, mites, etc. But if you care for it you dont have any of those problems. With a regular mattress you can’t just hang it up to air it out during the day, so I would think that a futon would help the issues you’re describing just because of the fact that it’s way easier to keep clean. Hope this helps.
I have allergies and pets and these are the solutions I’ve found to keep my bed/home clean and without dust mites or fleas. I can breathe easily and it’s easy to maintain once these steps become a habit. They all get their flea/mite monthly pill which works really well. I have indoor dogs so they walk outside but I make sure not to have them go into very dusty areas with lots of dried bush. If they do get dusty like at the dog park, they get a brushing outside before they come in. Pets should be brushed weekly so they don’t leave their dust and dander and hair all over your stuff. I wash my bedding weekly (comforter cover, top sheet, flat sheet, pillow cases) and I use a flat sheet on my couch which I also wash once a week (my bedding wash day is Sunday). I use cotton allergy pillow protectors from Allerease on my pillows, and I use a waterproof mattress protector for my bed. For the dog stairs I wrap the foam stairs in a big garbage bag *then* put on the fabric encasement. For the dog beds, I bought some yards of fleece from the fabric store and cut them in bed squares to drape over the dog beds. I was the stair cover and the fleece covers on wash day in HOT water. I also don’t have carpet, but I do have rugs, and you guessed it those are washed on Sunday as well (I have 3 rugs from ikea that are floppy and easy to launder). I use my robot vacuum on Saturdays. Hope that helps!
Does the bed frame comes with the tatami mats or you have to buy them separate? Really intetested in buying exactly what you have ive been sleeping on a futon on the floor for 10 years just want to upgrade.
Great question. You buy them separately. The frame, the tatami mats, and the futon mattress are all separate and you would just build your cart. The tatami mats are super thick and high quality
I've been sleeping on the floor for the last 26 years on and off futon mats I found this due to looking for a tatami mat roll up slat frame for airflow as I live in the desert ... western beds suck and gave me horrible back pain and joint pain and that's saying alot considering I can sleep on sharp rocks and gravel😂 id recommend a futon tatami combo to anyone suffering from bed pain
Could you link or show me where to buy a similar setup to yours? Would help me out because I’m new to beds like these. I’m also 6’3 so I need one that’s decent size.
Okay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kislux book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations
What’s the difference between this and a mattress topper. We slept on one for about a year and it turns out it was the cause for all my low back, hip and shoulder pain
Could you post a review or share your thoughts on assembling the bed? It’s a competitor to both the Thuma and the TatamiRoom beds. it’s super hard to tell from their website on if it’s easy to assemble, requires any tools, etc.
Yeah. It's not very hard to assemble at all. I had my friend help me. But it maybe took us like 10 or 15 minutes. Probably comparable to assembling any normal bed frame.
Your skeleton is supposed to support you when you sleep not your muscles. The softer the surface the more work the muscles are doing. This is what leads to waking with stiff bodies and aches.
I like the idea of sleeping on the floor, but I’m 78 and it’s not that easy to stand up from the floor anymore. A futon on a platform as in this video would solve that issue.
do u recommend Native Nest? I saw it on the target app. its on sale right now for $173 with the red card. IM thinking to buy it. it has very good reviews. its 3 inch thick. i dont have a lot to spend on a mattress right now but i want to get a futon and ditch my traditional mattress. my daughter has a japanese futon she sleeps on and I tried it a few times and slept very well. thats why I decided I wanted to get one. and I want to ditch my bed frame to.
Totally. I used to sleep on the floor. I think this raised bed is super quality and I am happy to have it but floor sleeping is great also! Whatever works for you
But how is the sex on it!?!?!? Thanks for the collab bro 🔥
Bros asking the real questions here
As my friend said, even with shorter equipment you can reach the bottom🤭
It's a serious question! I slept two years on a futon on the floor and consequently didn't invite anyone over. Yes it's my choice I know, but I was too poor for a futon bed frame but I also didn't want to compromise on sleep comfort.
I slept on a memory foam mattress topper on the floor for a year, so same concept. Sex was good! You have the opportunity to use the floor too without having to step down or anything. It works out okay, or at least it does when she's not a fuckin starfish
Left us on read😔
Slept on a futon for 6 years?? Glad you finally woke up. A lot has happened over that time…
😂
At least he got to sleep through the pandemic. What a nightmare! 😅
Lmao
The old man side of my brain laughed. The young side cringed at how hard....
@@johninmontana5847 you're welcome 😁
I am a floor guy, no mattress no futon no nothing. The floor is the best thing ever created.
how do you deal with the cold days?
@@sug725 Normal cold feels nice but when it get real cold I put a thin blanket under me to isolate myself from the floor
@@TheSkillBuilderX i see. Guess your are pretty resistant to cold then… in my case when it gets really cold i still need a mattress between me and the floor
@@sug725 … Just get a rug. I sleep on an IKEA 5" x 7" rug laid out on the floor. Bed room also looks much more spacious.
Im a rock guy, no futon no floor no nothing. The rock is the best thing ever created.
Actually, in our traditional Japanese way, we sun-dry futons in backyard almost everyday for sanitary and for the joy of smelling outside air and sun when you get in futons at night😊
Sounds great. Not so easy to achieve in the UK with so much rain or damp weather in general.
Although probably not as much as in UK, we too have a long rainy season :)
We use futon drier to make futons as fluffy as possible. Nowadays, sadly, most households don’t have backyard and many apartments ban to put your futons outside since it doesn’t look good. Using futon drier is actually the norm in urban area life.
Thanks for your comment:) Bye now.
I dont think that this is possible for the many Japanese that live in a city!
@@Gieszkanne You hang your futon on the railing of the balcony, or fold it and put it in the cupboard - there are special closets for this. Most Japanese do not sleep on tatami, the futon is on the floor. Also Japanese futon are made of polyester, not cotton, which makes them very resistant to mold in the first place.
I'm 66, bought my shikibuton and kakefuton in 2011 right after my *fancy name brand memory foam mattress* tried to kill me, and I started looking for something that wouldn't. I found J-Life International back then and bought the organic cotton 4" mattress, the bedding, the buckwheat hull pillows, and it worked in my place then to store everything during the day in my closet. When I moved, that didn't work anymore, so I bought a $100 bare wood single bed frame from Amazon, and later bought a $150 (or so?) tatami mat to help the mattress breathe. I will never go back to the "American" way of mattress, box springs, down pillows and all that.
That's 13 years on my one 4" organic cotton (no sprayed-on chemicals) mattress.
I did open it up at one point (2014?) and filled it in with some organic cotton quilt batting and stitched it back up, as it was developing a valley that I didn't like. Haven't messed with it since.
It's cool to see you guys talking about this!
I'm not married, and there was only one opportunity in my life a few years ago to test-drive the idea of having a guy stay overnight. That didn't work well. He sleeps on and loves his *name brand chemical-filled pit of death* that I refuse to go near ever again.
how can a matress kill u ?
My memory foam mattress is currently killing me, which is why I'm on this journey for something better.
LMFAO ! *_"chemical filled pit of death"_* So true. We are slowly killing ourselves in the West. We do everything just the way the medical industry likes it.....bad for us = 💰good for them.
Where can I buy a futon mattress?
@@bmiamiwai J Life in the USA.
I am 58 and I sleep on the floor on a normal carped covered with a bedsheet. I have been doing this for years after a back and knee pain from my work place. Since then I have no pain anywhere from my joints and back. I don't know how, but when I am going to sleep I feel like any discomfort I have will come off during the night, and it does. It is totally different feeling.
Going to try that tonight
For me sleeping on the ground feels like torture. Even after 5 nights my body doesnt want to adjust.
RE: sleeping on the ground. I used to live in Georgetown, TX, a bit out in the country Austin suburb. What really drove me nuts was every day, every night, I would get 2-4 scorpions in the house. Usually I'd catch them when I woke up to pee - always had to turn the lights on. So. Sleeping on the floor has some disadvantages in places with a lot of bugs.
That's scary
For almost 4 years I slept on a 4" thick foam and memory foam mattress topper I'd gotten from Walmart for about $113 on the floor. I loved it.
foam mattresses require to be raised off the floor with something that can give circulation to it. They trap in a lot of sweat and can cause bacteria. Plus they trap in heat.
@@AdrienneS1970same thing with the futons
@@AdrienneS1970 Yes the same with foutons. Thats why you have to roll them up over the day. But a thin mattress or topper could be leaned up to a wall.
I used to sell mattresses and I can tell you, how much cushion the mattress needs depends on body fat percentage. If you’re heavier, plush is better, if you’re thin, firm is better. It depends how deep you sink. A thin human body has a natural weight balance to it that thinner old style mattresses do fine with.
I’m very obese, very. I like firm mattresses. I hate the feeling of sinking into my mattress.
@@kelleylea5Eat less
That explains why the women he has on the futon complain so much!
@@IridescentWit's a miracle you cured him
@@IridescentW right yes i will eat less for 2 days and then immediately lose 150 lbs.
Why do yall ppl say this unnecessary stuff? Most of us are tryna lose the weight, and its gonna take years most of the time, do you think we just havent thought about eating less? That thats a new discovery?
I slept on a 8” thick cotton filled futon (very heavy) on top of tatami mats for 15 years. It was really clean barely used when I got it. It is still very clean no stain, dent or lump because I always have it covered with multiple sheets, blankets, and carpets. 2 years ago when I moved to my new place I bought a futon frame for my futon. It is now my only sofa and guest bed in the living room. I got a 6” twin mattress topper. I put it on top of 3 tatami mats and a heavy wood futon frame to be my bed. I sleep alternately between this twin bed and a hammock (both in my bedroom). Other than the Amazon hammock stand ($45), everything was from Craigslist for $20/$30.
How's it sleeping on the Hammock? Any back issues?
Where to get that futon ?
This made me want to buy a japanese futon
W Gen
Hey gen. I'll buy one if you do it
I just bought a twin size after watching this for my small room. Same frame an all that. Super stoked.
Lets GOOO!!!! You will love it. The frame is sick
How is it holding up? Is the bedframe breathable and how is cleaning below like? Looking forward to an answer!
You made my day. I’m grandma who had just order a natural tatami bed off floor with the grass Matt and mattress for my back. I once lived in Japan and finally bought a tatami get up awesome bed. 😊❤
wonderful !!!
I was already sleeping on the floor with blankets for months and I remembered about Japanese futons outta no where. I'm trying to get one now
How did it go?
You don’t like the floor?
@@commonsense3921 sleeping on bare floor is not exactly a humane way to sleep, atleast put a blanket on top
Crazy how I came here just for a advice and I get a lot of info about beds, thank you man💪🏻
I can't believe its been 6 years since the futon vid.
How I gave up my traditional bed and love to getting a traditional bed and loving it.
I was really glad when I first got rid of my bed, (did so off and on for 15 years.) Namely I like a solid bed and sleeping without a bed frame is awesome. Currently I have had a bed for the last 6 years but, it is still very simple. OH, only worry I had in Texas one time was at a farm house I rented and I realized those were SCORPIONS I heard!! Eeek. I did get a bed. Yeah, sure, they can still climb right up. OH another time I rented another farmhouse near a newly harvested field in Kentucky and experienced, what I call, "the great mouse infestation." Oh, I moved and threw almost every furniture item I had away from there, (mouse urine.) Anyways, but for those two times I loved the floor as the base for my bedding.
I love sleeping on a futon mattress close to floor; I wish I'd thought of this years ago !
this guy kept it so real when he said some blankets on the floor, respect
I don't care how a guy sleeps but what I do care about is his character. I'm good at making any circumstances of sleeping work. Some people like to have their bed on the floor, Some Like It High and for others, some can't afford it. Especially if they have their own place or even living with roommates I can 100% respect that. I always wanted to sleep on a futon and I probably had in the past but I probably don't remember. It is definitely an option and especially since I have my mattress topper. But seriously, I'm tired of beds sagging on me and losing its support!
Are the mattress pads gluten free?
No, I believe they are free range though.
I think one of the overlooked benefits of a futon on the floor is the ease of moving if you have to change apartments. A bed frame is typically one of the biggest pieces of furniture you’d have and can make the difference between being able to move house with a car and having to hire a van.
Building a bed frame is a straightforward carpentry project and you can design it so it’s demountable into two or three sections for ease of moving. Combined with a foldable or rollable futon, it’s probably the best compromise of comfort and ability to move easily.
The ability to store things under the bed is important IMO, so long as you don’t over-do it. Sometimes it’s not about how much space you have but how uncluttered it feels.
Dog was adorable ❤ caught in the act ! 😂
Sleeping on the ground so simple and so humble!
I know a Marine Corps Recruiter who will hook you up with a four year enlistment in the infantry, (with the option depending on your ASVAB score, to move Into special operations) where you will sleep on the floor, 90% on the time.
You can even go in on the Buddy System.
Organic, natural and macho.
But you have to cut your hair..........a little. Ok! Ok!.....I'm lying about that.
What I really wanna know is what's that weird looking chair below your standing desk and how does it work?
That is a kneeling stool. You sit on it and have your shins on the bottom part. You can sit in it different ways. I do like it.
generally women should not sleep on firm beds due to higher bone and joint porosity, and body curves esp form bone structure like the hips which need more cushioning so the tailbone muscles and tissues are not affected. However there are futons that are super soft and if you must you can always layer 2 on top of each other. This is what I have seen at Ryokan of we explain the person has back ache.
Try a search for the word towelket. It is a type of traditional Japanese bedding. It wicks sweat away. I bought 3 of them
Nice video dude!! However as a 68 year old man I know that a firm sleeping surface has me turning from side to side about every hour. My hip, rib cages and shoulder wakes me up due to the discomfort. Just so you know.
This has nothing to do with age. I also cant sleep on hard surface.
Average person here with an average lifestyle unlike these youtubers. I have slept on a futon on the floor for close to two years and honestly it was fucking annoying to fold and put away my mattress and sheets every day. I loved the hard support i got from my floor but dont get up too quickly or you'll twist and sprain your lower back. Its just a hassle for me personally. Im going back to a raised permanent bed.
Lol I have an average lifestyle too.
Or just dont fold it at all and leave it stationary? Problem solved
Folding is an option dude, wtf hahaha
Huh? Nothings bad about getting up and i dont have any problems with my back... i sleep on a futon for 6 years right now.
Fold it and thats it!
I think if you're straining your back from getting up out of bed, you've got some real mobility problems...
I do the same. I bought mine from JLife, the tatami mat makes all the difference. Plus I live on a 3 rd floor apartment in the French Quarter. So moving everything upstairs was amazingly better than trying to haul a mattress. Plus being in the French Quarter; in a 180 year old apartment, I only have like 200 sqft, so putting it away and sitting in the tatami mat definitely works out for the best. Plus it’s just a nice clean aesthetic. Plus I also use straight linen sheets, so it breathes as actually feels like a natural sleeping environment.
Howdy neighbor! I’m from New Orleans as well, and I’ve been thinking about getting a shikibuton. How long have you had yours and how have you been able to air yours out when it gets humid? That’s the one thing I’m worried about since the summers get really humid.
@@leaphan6141 yeah as long as it’s in direct sun. With good airflow.
I took a drink every time they said organic, now im too hammered to order anything!
Good to have you back man! Hope to see more content from you soon!
Yessir, going to have a good one in a couple weeks!
If my dude don’t me not having a bed frame then he can go! 😅
I just purchased a full XL tatami mat and a full XL Japanese futon mattress. I sleep on my stomach so I hope it works well.
Amazing reviews guys! Really! Thanks for uploading ❤
♥👍🕶 Good to see that particular bed frame in everyday use, as it's on my short list! Having slept TWO NIGHTS on the floor, sleeping is finally not an act of war and no longer destroying my back. I also now sleep with my *HEAD FACING EAST,* because a north position leads to death, according to an ancient Japanese saying... to which I can attest.
I also bought my futon 5 years ago with tatami matt. I never had the urge to return to a mattress, my back would hurt so bad on normal soft mattresses.
5:01 my guy calum staring into my soul
When that moment happened your comment popped up and I busted out laughing. 😂
I have scoliosis and always preferred a firmer, thinner mattress. Maybe just enough cushion that it’s not uncomfortable to turn on my side. cheap memory foam works for me but considering more eco friendly materials like wool or cotton when it’s time to get a new one
Can I put tatami mats on a normal bed frame? I love this idea, but I don’t want to purchase a new bed frame when I already have one.
Yeah I think if they fit that would totally work!
Sometimes it just takes 6 years of sleeping on the ground to realise you like a bedframe
すばらしい nice, I have the futon shops shiki buton futon it’s the organic cotton 5 inch mattress with the coirpad coconut tatami mats from them and love it. I got their organic cotton cover for it and I found a futon dryer for the winter months to dry it out. Basically a cord/hose that I can set on a 30 or 60 min timer. This helps a lot when I’m unable to take it outside to dry in the sun. I bought some straps and a tarp and a lightweight 2 piece folding queen frame so I can fold the mattress up and pull it with the tarp with handles and set it on the frame outside in the sun. it’s a process so the futon dryer helps a lot but much cleaner than traditional beds 🌱
Very nice!
Hi, can I ask if you don't mind - I've seen that coconut coir mat (I may be sensitive to the tatami rush grass scent) - does it have any noticeable odor?
What is the point of a tatami bed frame? You could just use a regular bed frame. Air can go underneath and keep it dry. But it takes away floor space either way
Awesome video, very positive energy :)
got one of these mattress and it was so lumpy and saggy. Happy to see it worked for you.
So When you wanted to beat some cheeks did you pull the bed out right before or did you have it already prepared?
I'm going to add my japanese matress to my metal box frame for extra comfort and less clutter in my home.
Thank you so much!! 🎉
Latex was mentioned in a list of things that aren’t natural, but there is natural latex and there is synthetic latex. Within the natural latex category you can choose organic latex. I tried sleeping on the floor on a shikibuton and really liked it and how my back felt until a big bug decided to crawl up there with me. I tried out different ways to get the firm sleeping experience but with a raised bed. I opted for a Thuma bed and a firm latex mattress. The mattress isn’t as firm as sleeping on a shikibuton on the floor, but it’s firmer than the standard mattresses I’ve had in the past. My back feels good sleeping on it.
To solve the space hog issue of the bed frame, if they made one into a CONVERTIBLE SOFA style, you’d have the best of both worlds. 🛋️ + 🛌 = 👌
Pass on this suggestion to them, and they’ll have even MORE customers for this product! You guys could be the TH-cam spokespeople for it!
Ideally a futon room for most sleep and a large guest traditional bed in a separate bedroom for... stuff
like awesome AirBNB side income, but also...
The bed frame can double up as table or work station if you fold the futon, it’s versatile ❤
What bed risers are those! I would love to know ❤
It is linked in the description
Great video bro! very informative. Looking for something firmer and I love the minimalism of the futon.
Thanks bro!
Hey there. I have really bad allergies. And i have 2 dogs and 6 cats. Im so over throwing out mattresses due to dust mites and flea allergies. Are japanese futons good as far as hypoallergenic problems? Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated. Yes, my pets are all medicated monthly like clockwork. I struggle to keep my house super clean everyday. Exterminator comes and sprays. I cant keep the dang fleas and dust out of my mattress. I just put mattress out in garbage. Im tired of suffering and have been looking at japanese futons for a few weeks. Thank you ❣️🤧
Watching other youtubers, i’ve learned it’s normal to hang up your futon everyday to air out, as well as clean the mat often. I’ve heard if you leave a futon on the floor its way worse than a regular mattress in terms of collecting dirt, allergens, mites, etc. But if you care for it you dont have any of those problems. With a regular mattress you can’t just hang it up to air it out during the day, so I would think that a futon would help the issues you’re describing just because of the fact that it’s way easier to keep clean. Hope this helps.
I have allergies and pets and these are the solutions I’ve found to keep my bed/home clean and without dust mites or fleas. I can breathe easily and it’s easy to maintain once these steps become a habit. They all get their flea/mite monthly pill which works really well. I have indoor dogs so they walk outside but I make sure not to have them go into very dusty areas with lots of dried bush. If they do get dusty like at the dog park, they get a brushing outside before they come in.
Pets should be brushed weekly so they don’t leave their dust and dander and hair all over your stuff. I wash my bedding weekly (comforter cover, top sheet, flat sheet, pillow cases) and I use a flat sheet on my couch which I also wash once a week (my bedding wash day is Sunday). I use cotton allergy pillow protectors from Allerease on my pillows, and I use a waterproof mattress protector for my bed.
For the dog stairs I wrap the foam stairs in a big garbage bag *then* put on the fabric encasement. For the dog beds, I bought some yards of fleece from the fabric store and cut them in bed squares to drape over the dog beds. I was the stair cover and the fleece covers on wash day in HOT water.
I also don’t have carpet, but I do have rugs, and you guessed it those are washed on Sunday as well (I have 3 rugs from ikea that are floppy and easy to launder). I use my robot vacuum on Saturdays. Hope that helps!
So you went from a traditional western bed to getting something just like it with a futon on top. 😂
Does the bed frame comes with the tatami mats or you have to buy them separate? Really intetested in buying exactly what you have ive been sleeping on a futon on the floor for 10 years just want to upgrade.
Great question. You buy them separately. The frame, the tatami mats, and the futon mattress are all separate and you would just build your cart. The tatami mats are super thick and high quality
I've been sleeping on the floor for the last 26 years on and off futon mats I found this due to looking for a tatami mat roll up slat frame for airflow as I live in the desert ... western beds suck and gave me horrible back pain and joint pain and that's saying alot considering I can sleep on sharp rocks and gravel😂 id recommend a futon tatami combo to anyone suffering from bed pain
Where can I buy a traditional tatami mat?
I linked mine in the description. They are super thick and sturdy. Wherever you get it from, getting a thicker one will be the way to go.
Do you ever air out the tatami?
man these look awesome I just wish there was a way to try it before committing to one
With the 16 inch legs, how much space is between the bottom of the bed and the floor? Just curious about drawer space.
16 inches.
Dig Your Minimalism! Love this video about an alternative to sleep. The clean cool support rest we all - at any season - deserve! More please!
Do you still roll up your futon even though you have the bed frame?
I don't anymore.
do you have to air and lift the futon every day? What if your sick and need to stay in bed for a few days?
Could you link or show me where to buy a similar setup to yours? Would help me out because I’m new to beds like these. I’m also 6’3 so I need one that’s decent size.
J-Life International.
It's all in the description
Okay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kislux book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations
What’s the difference between the organic cotton futon and the natural wool and organic cotton futon?
When y’all entered Cades room what brand of waffle blanket was it that was on his bed. (Green)👀
Is the bottom of the bed frame as hard as the floor?
Yes
Thank you@@calumx
What’s the difference between this and a mattress topper. We slept on one for about a year and it turns out it was the cause for all my low back, hip and shoulder pain
The futon is much less spongy, so more supportive than toppers.
that cali accent reminds me of the SNL sketch 'the Californians"
Can you put the tatami mats on a preexisting bed frame? Thanks for your video 🙏🏽
Yeah I would think that you could. They are quite heavy so make sure it is a sturdy bed frame but that should be good.
I love the seiza sitting chair brudda
Where did he get those orange covers from ?
Where can you buy the equivalent items linked if living in the UK? Thanks.
Google it. It's not rocket science. 🙄
Is maxyoyo a good brand?
I’m looking to get this bed, Can you put a regular mattress on top of the tatami mat bed frame ?
You totally could
What would be the point in that.😂
Could you post a review or share your thoughts on assembling the bed? It’s a competitor to both the Thuma and the TatamiRoom beds. it’s super hard to tell from their website on if it’s easy to assemble, requires any tools, etc.
Yeah. It's not very hard to assemble at all. I had my friend help me. But it maybe took us like 10 or 15 minutes. Probably comparable to assembling any normal bed frame.
I hate that I discovered this AFTER I bought my $1000 mattress. Too late to return it but I like it anyways for now
So they sleep in separate room?
I like your video. Are 3 inch enough for side sleeping?
Yeah you totally could. I used to sleep on a 3" one. You could always add some cushion later if it feels too thin.
Felt the desire to sleep just on my yoga mat last night. Rested amazingly. Maybe a futon is next
Do it!
Don’t. Just stick with your yoga mat.
Looks like a Thuma bed frame?
No, it is a tatami bed frame from the futon shop. Linked in the description.
Thank you for this video! Super helpful. ❤
Never compromise on comfort in life
Is your bed frame double or queen?
Full
Your skeleton is supposed to support you when you sleep not your muscles. The softer the surface the more work the muscles are doing. This is what leads to waking with stiff bodies and aches.
How is it for side sleeping?
Perfect
@@calumx Cool. Thanks for the video and response. Take care.
Is it washable that white mattress
Thanks for the great info.
I will NEVER move a bed again. Tatami mats and that's it. No frame. Took a few weeks of getting accustomed and now it feels great
I like the idea of sleeping on the floor, but I’m 78 and it’s not that easy to stand up from the floor anymore. A futon on a platform as in this video would solve that issue.
do u recommend Native Nest? I saw it on the target app. its on sale right now for $173 with the red card. IM thinking to buy it. it has very good reviews. its 3 inch thick. i dont have a lot to spend on a mattress right now but i want to get a futon and ditch my traditional mattress. my daughter has a japanese futon she sleeps on and I tried it a few times and slept very well. thats why I decided I wanted to get one. and I want to ditch my bed frame to.
I'm getting one!
I want to try this bed, but how do I try one for free? .... Amazon you say? There has to be a none cheese way
Do a review on that spine alignment rockjng chair
The topper tells the story.
Being a woman who sleeps on her side and we women are shaped so the flat floor thing is like painful.
Why not just do floor sleeping. What’s true of a raised bed seems to be more true of floor sleeping?
Totally. I used to sleep on the floor. I think this raised bed is super quality and I am happy to have it but floor sleeping is great also! Whatever works for you
@@calumx whats the diff between "sleeping on floor" and "sleeping in futon" ? A futon is most likely on floor, no ?