There's another story featuring Gilgamesh where the goddess Inanna finds a tree that she transfers to her garden and later she finds out a snake is coiling at the roots, a bird is nesting at the top, and Lilith is living in the middle branches, and Gilgamesh comes to scare them all away...
Guys please just run the audio with whatever is on the TV screen for video. We miss half the visuals of the presentation for what exactly? A picture of a man standing and talking about something on a video screen that we can't see! The speaker wants us to see what he is displaying. Why don't you?
Gilgamesh is mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls, so it's incorrect to say that Gilgamesh was forgotten after cuneiform writing fell out of use. He isn't directly referenced in the main biblical texts found among the scrolls. However, his name appears in a specific fragment known as the Book of Giants, which is part of the Enoch corpus. This corpus refers to a collection of ancient Jewish texts not included in the Hebrew Bible but considered relevant by the Qumran community, believed to be the Essenes, who owned the Dead Sea Scrolls.
It always struck me that the story of Adam and Eve is very similar to the story about Enkidu and the hierophant, but I haven't seen it anywhere. It's interesting because it's a quite small thing in Gilgamesh and so big in Christianity. I think Enkidu might even live in Eden (ie. the fertile plains). What do you think?
A man named Mauro Biglino was hired by the Vatican to translate the Old Testament from the original Maserite and he found it to be identical to the Sumerian accounts found in the Atrahasis and Enuma Elis. The Garden was in Eridu, Enki's city in Mesopotamia and Adam and Eve (the Adama or Adapa) his creations.
Thomas Lindroth wrote: " I think Enkidu might even live in Eden (ie. the fertile plain) What do you think?" Dear Thomas, you are again correct in your hunch. Recently a great Opus has been published by a British scholar, Professor Andrew George (London), on the Epic of Gilgamesh. He has assembled all known variants of the Epic and discussed them in great scholarly detail. In this $1,000 Opus he has noted the presence of Sumerian logograms in the Epic. He has Enkidu meeting Shamhat at a watering hole in the EDIN (a Sumerian logogram, a substitute for the Babylonian word Tseri, meaning for George "Wilderness." ) His work also exists in an inexpensive paperback version for those unable to pony up $1,000.00. The problem? He does not go into very much detail in paperback and you will find no mention about the Sumerian logogram EDIN in the Epic. Only the $1,000 OPUS has this info! So, you are right Thomas, Enkidu meets Shamahat at a watering hole in the EDIN. Her task? She is to replace his animal companions with herself via sex. When he tires himself out after 6 days of nights of sleeping with the temple prostitute, he attempts to return to his beastly companions (wild cattle and Antelope). They will have nothing to do with him now and runaway. Being exhuausted by sex, he cannot run with them. He realizes his beasts have rejected him. The Harlot asks, "Why run with EDIN'S beasts? Come with me to Unug/Uriuk to meet Gilgamesh." He accepts her offer. Before leaving EDIN she shares her clothing with him to cover his hairy nakedness, so EDIN's naked man learns in EDIN from a naked woman, it is wrong to be naked in EDIN. Enroute to Unug (a Sumerian logogram for Uruk) they meet shepherds. They offer him beer and bread, he balks at consuming these items, for he knows to consume only water and grass with is beasts. Shamhat intervenes and coaxes Enkidu into consuming these forbidden food items. The shepherds then announce Enkidu is no longer a naked hairy beast of EDIN, he is now a civilized man and they award him a robe, fit for a king, to cover his nakedness. Then Enkidu and Shamhat precede on, from EDIN to Unug/Uruk to meet Gilgamesh. Enkidu's reasoning powers were limited until he met Shamhat, just as EDIN'S beasts (Wild cattle and Antelope) go about naked with no clothes, so too Enkidu was naked, not knowing it was wrong to be naked. Only civilized man knew it was wrong to be naked. Regards, Walter
What was the name of the Abbess mentioned, whom ended up sovreign as a result of the position? I'd like to read more on her or the multiple hers that were in similar positions.
Thank you for your lecture, however, it's extremely disturbing watching this young lady getting her coffee and her calls. Good that this was changed in the recent lectures. Good we can now focus only on your interesting topics.
"This too was the work of Gilgamesh, the king who knew the countries of the world. He was wise, he saw mysteries and knew secret things, HE BROUGHT US A TALE OF THE DAYS BEFORE THE FLOOD." Is that the Utnapishtim ark? It doesn't seem to specify. Also, Is it to be inferred that they did not know this story before Gilgamesh brought it back after his journey? If that's the case, how did he find Utnapishtim in the first place?
Ancient people simply didn’t have the same critical thoughts about the stories they told as we do today. Not to say they didn’t have critical thoughts but they had a completely different frame of reference and background data for their ideas than we have today
Gilgamesh was two thirds god, one third human... Meaning, one parent was a full god, and the other was a demigod. As in half and half. Go the fifty percent from the demigod parent was 33 percent human... 33 is likely what they wanted, in tes of symbolism.
Question for Pastor John: After studying about all these different myths around the world, why are you a believer and Pastor of any of them? Did you basically just choose a myth to believe in and run with it?
My brother and I saw a grey thing float in front of us. Near this place my brother said a 7ft tall thing looked down on him in his tent. He thought it was a homeless man or a demon. They locked eyes for less than a few seconds.
Anyone else want to plan a trip to Toronto to hear him in person? :-)
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you really need to look up rod hayes and bobby hemmit and yes there are black men .. remember all these studies come from black guys
not too mention these people like gilgamesh was a blackman
Loool we wuz kingz
@@hate4whatWhy does it always come down to skin color ? Do we not come from the same Creator?
Just love your lectures. Only found you a few months ago and trying to catch up on all lectures.
There's another story featuring Gilgamesh where the goddess Inanna finds a tree that she transfers to her garden and later she finds out a snake is coiling at the roots, a bird is nesting at the top, and Lilith is living in the middle branches, and Gilgamesh comes to scare them all away...
Guys please just run the audio with whatever is on the TV screen for video. We miss half the visuals of the presentation for what exactly? A picture of a man standing and talking about something on a video screen that we can't see! The speaker wants us to see what he is displaying. Why don't you?
Gilgamesh is mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls, so it's incorrect to say that Gilgamesh was forgotten after cuneiform writing fell out of use. He isn't directly referenced in the main biblical texts found among the scrolls. However, his name appears in a specific fragment known as the Book of Giants, which is part of the Enoch corpus. This corpus refers to a collection of ancient Jewish texts not included in the Hebrew Bible but considered relevant by the Qumran community, believed to be the Essenes, who owned the Dead Sea Scrolls.
What did it this fragment say about Gilgamesh?
It always struck me that the story of Adam and Eve is very similar to the story about Enkidu and the hierophant, but I haven't seen it anywhere. It's interesting because it's a quite small thing in Gilgamesh and so big in Christianity. I think Enkidu might even live in Eden (ie. the fertile plains). What do you think?
A man named Mauro Biglino was hired by the Vatican to translate the Old Testament from the original Maserite and he found it to be identical to the Sumerian accounts found in the Atrahasis and Enuma Elis. The Garden was in Eridu, Enki's city in Mesopotamia and Adam and Eve (the Adama or Adapa) his creations.
Thomas Lindroth wrote: " I think Enkidu might even live in Eden (ie. the fertile plain) What do you think?"
Dear Thomas, you are again correct in your hunch.
Recently a great Opus has been published by a British scholar, Professor Andrew George (London), on the Epic of Gilgamesh. He has assembled all known variants of the Epic and discussed them in great scholarly detail.
In this $1,000 Opus he has noted the presence of Sumerian logograms in the Epic.
He has Enkidu meeting Shamhat at a watering hole in the EDIN (a Sumerian logogram, a substitute for the Babylonian word Tseri, meaning for George "Wilderness." )
His work also exists in an inexpensive paperback version for those unable to pony up $1,000.00.
The problem? He does not go into very much detail in paperback and you will find no mention about the Sumerian logogram EDIN in the Epic.
Only the $1,000 OPUS has this info!
So, you are right Thomas,
Enkidu meets Shamahat at a watering hole in the EDIN.
Her task?
She is to replace his animal companions with herself via sex.
When he tires himself out after 6 days of nights of sleeping with the temple prostitute, he attempts to return to his beastly companions (wild cattle and Antelope).
They will have nothing to do with him now and runaway.
Being exhuausted by sex, he cannot run with them.
He realizes his beasts have rejected him.
The Harlot asks, "Why run with EDIN'S beasts? Come with me to Unug/Uriuk to meet Gilgamesh."
He accepts her offer.
Before leaving EDIN she shares her clothing with him to cover his hairy nakedness, so EDIN's naked man learns in EDIN from a naked woman, it is wrong to be naked in EDIN.
Enroute to Unug (a Sumerian logogram for Uruk) they meet shepherds. They offer him beer and bread, he balks at consuming these items, for he knows to consume only water and grass with is beasts.
Shamhat intervenes and coaxes Enkidu into consuming these forbidden food items.
The shepherds then announce Enkidu is no longer a naked hairy beast of EDIN, he is now a civilized man and they award him a robe, fit for a king, to cover his nakedness.
Then Enkidu and Shamhat precede on, from EDIN to Unug/Uruk to meet Gilgamesh.
Enkidu's reasoning powers were limited until he met Shamhat, just as EDIN'S beasts (Wild cattle and Antelope) go about naked with no clothes, so too Enkidu was naked, not knowing it was wrong to be naked.
Only civilized man knew it was wrong to be naked. Regards, Walter
@@WalterRMattfeld Enki did indeed live in Eden which was in Eridu, Enki's city.
Loooong ago
Heck yeah brother great lecture!
Great introduction. Thank you for sharing
Actually, Gilgamesh's genealogy has been mistranslated. The newest interpretation is that he's 1/2 man, 1/2 pig and 1/2 bear. I'm totally cereal.
Let me guess! This interpretation was offered by All Gore, right?
@@alcoholicnerd514 You got the joke. Well done.
I'm smoking some weed called man bear pig right now, kudos
I love to study, and study and study.
Absolutely love your videos.
@28:59, could we say that Enki corresponds to Prometheus and Enlil to Jupiter or Zeus?
Yes. Also Enki was the serpent in the garden. We got this religion stuff all messed up.
Would you mind expanding on this?@@asabovesobelow5683
What was the name of the Abbess mentioned, whom ended up sovreign as a result of the position? I'd like to read more on her or the multiple hers that were in similar positions.
Why are all the cool people in Canada?🤔💖
Except the right wing INFESTATION!
GLORY HALLESTUPID!
free healthcare maybe?
The lion he carries represents the age of Leo i imagine
Certainly like your mission statement 👌
35:45 “wristwatch” on both wrists - lol
The guy's a king! Of course he's got two watches!
Thank you for your lecture, however, it's extremely disturbing watching this young lady getting her coffee and her calls. Good that this was changed in the recent lectures. Good we can now focus only on your interesting topics.
"This too was the work of Gilgamesh, the king who knew the countries of the world. He was wise, he saw mysteries and knew secret things, HE BROUGHT US A TALE OF THE DAYS BEFORE THE FLOOD."
Is that the Utnapishtim ark? It doesn't seem to specify.
Also, Is it to be inferred that they did not know this story before Gilgamesh brought it back after his journey?
If that's the case, how did he find Utnapishtim in the first place?
Is a story? I think the fact that it’s a human literary construct answers your question.
Ancient people simply didn’t have the same critical thoughts about the stories they told as we do today. Not to say they didn’t have critical thoughts but they had a completely different frame of reference and background data for their ideas than we have today
And Gilgamesh threw the last Pink Panther from his vessel cause it wasted his time.
I was slightly disappointed this lecture wasn't just "Amesh... amesh.... mesh... esh..." Maybe next time.
An under appreciated joke
Gilgamesh was two thirds god, one third human...
Meaning, one parent was a full god, and the other was a demigod. As in half and half. Go the fifty percent from the demigod parent was 33 percent human...
33 is likely what they wanted, in tes of symbolism.
@The Muckler No, that would be Yahweh...
@The Muckler 66.6 percent... 666.
I got what you are saying about Gilgamesh. Fits Yahweh better, though.
Wait until you discover that Hebrew Cosmology is true.
LOL
Einstein stan?
Still waiting on the firmament lol
Bedouins are living in N Africa not in Summer!!
Fundamentalist Christian:
We're taking our rainbow flag back.
Why should Big Gay Al have all the fun?
I blame Canada!
What?
@@katherenewedic8076 It's a string of South Park references.
Dude I would so love to come to one of these. Is weed legal there? Asking for a friend...lol 😂 🤣🤣
Question for Pastor John: After studying about all these different myths around the world, why are you a believer and Pastor of any of them? Did you basically just choose a myth to believe in and run with it?
He doesn’t believe. He considers himself Christian culturally but is secular in his beliefs.
Peace Justice love! Great work pastor John. Ever since I started watching your videos I can't stop.
Heck yeah brother me too
*No Ark in KY*
They didn’t build an ark; they built a modern building with an Ark façade on 3 sides.
Wish host would remember his photos sources/label them. Bad practice.
Please don't be the same as èverythung
What is real? What is mythology?
Fukk I don't know man
Puff puff give maaaaaan! *Inhales deeply
My brother and I saw a grey thing float in front of us. Near this place my brother said a 7ft tall thing looked down on him in his tent. He thought it was a homeless man or a demon. They locked eyes for less than a few seconds.
@@Exodus26.13Pi that was some good weed 😂
Pure Tao as written, not interpreted!
GLORY HALLESTUPID!
@@Exodus26.13Pi it was a HOMELESS DEMONSTRATION! He can't get in Mar Lago!
GLORY HALLESTUPID!
@@jisiri what is glory hallestupid and why do you write it to end every comment?