I’ve seen that clip. I don’t think she was laughing at male suicide. She was laughing at the idea that Parliament doesn’t have the opportunity to discuss male suicide. I still think she was wrong and it’s right for her to clarify matters and apologise for leaving the impression that she was laughing at male suicide. But stating she that she was laughing at male suicide is an unfair claim.
@@christopherflux6254 i agree , she didnt laugh at male suicide but at this time you can find the clip of her talking on a stage about Corbyn , she was asked why dd she stab him in the back, she joked she would happily stab him in the front if he was there , i found that as distasteful as carls "joke" and we would all do well to start being a little better
Tommy Robinson nailed it in his interview with Jordan Peterson: "if you fight back against one muslim man, you take on the entire tribe". At the root, the free world is individualist, and the East is collectivist.
@@hereticalgames3695Nonsense. People like Jess blame innocent people for their own crimes all the time and win both in the court of public opinion and in actual courts. Apologizing only makes it easier for her to win in both, not harder
Labour will literally reap what they have sown from the demographic they treat, like beaten children in need of a cuddle. Meanwhile, grooming gangs are still going on all four cylinders.
We shouldn't forget she laughed at the idea of men needing rights to protect them against domestic violence... no apologies to her or her masculine jawline...
Notwithstanding the fact that the vile woman deserves no such apology, the righteous man should always take the high ground. Well done Carl, in putting the developed version of you forward. The world does need a family man version of Andrew Tate, for young men to move their world view into as they grow.
Carl isn't apologizing for some made up, gotcha claim made against him. He's come to an independent conclusion about the morality of his actions, not caving to an attempt to cancel him. In short, he's doing this for Carl Benjamin, his children and for his community.
The difference was as night and day, when Jess Philips was interviewed about Carl's remarks she answered with a shit eating smirk on her face, now however, when commenting on the intimidation used against her in and her people in the recent general election, she looked like she was ready to throw up. That wasn't fake offence, that was real fear. And if anyone should be apologising it should be Tony Blair.
@@jamesrichards2442 NPC's are not accountable for their actions, you clearly believe this woman has more agency in the world than I accredit her for. Well, good for you, you have not descended to the level of cynicism that I have. That genuinely makes you the better person.
Carl is acting like a naughty school boy, after being taken by the ear and put before the head master. Toxic trout Philips will just see this as and enemy surrendering.
They always suffer from their own ideolog, it will continue and get worse and its nothing they don't deserve imo. They deserve to live in the Muslim country they clearly want.
@@ÆthelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 he knows not to apologise to the left. he knows you never ever backpedal, apologise and give in. I think he’s playing a long game hopefully 🤞🏼
@@breaghboo-gc7ub there is more to why he should’ve stayed the course it was 8 years ago, Jess milks it for gain and will still do so after this despite not being scared, she won’t accept it, Carl is not responsible for this harshening as he warned against this so he has no reason to feel newly guilty
@@androidoficeandfire9667 He knows this. I think he’s trying to play the angle of being the ‘better man’ to get into mainstream politics and play the long game, rather than standing on just being correct. I think it’s strategic.
And you dont see how this would actually make Jess look bad? Youre seeing this through the lens of beating someone in an argument, but that isnt how Carl is viewing it, and as someone who found his joke crass and not as bad as JP and the media represented it, I see this as a major good move by Carl.
@@oliverwortley3822 maybe but in that arena you need to be even more resistant to apologising when you know they only want your submission If Carl felt new guilt then absolutely apologise but I don’t think he should
He is not apologising to "the left", he's apologising to one woman. Carl's demonstrating how a decent man behaves, by apologising when he believes an apology is right, but not apologising out of cowardice or to appease a woke mob.
Bullshit if you fuck up take responsibility and prove your growing dont be like the left and assume your right regardless that will never fix things eventually blood will be spilt on both sides until nothing is left and the real enemy can waltz right over your corpses
This is so cringe. It's like him crawling up and begging the establishment to be under thumb even more. Carl got attacked but does she worry about his safety? I haven't heard anything from Jess.
Well done Carl for being the bigger person. The moral landscape of our country has degraded in so many ways, and this is one way that it can be improved.
Took King Alfred 25 years to get rid of England's foreign invasion when six of the seven English kingdoms were controlled by foreigners. Carl is a Wessex man like me. I'm ready to join the fyrd as soon as he calls the witan!
@@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 I’m assuming he thinks that Carl sees a prominent member of the Labour Party starting to wake up to the Islamist threat and can therefore become a future ally.
Nope. And there is a school of thought that Frankie Boyle is hiding in plain sight, like all the others at the bbc. He wasn’t kicked off channel 4 for no reason. I would lay bets on Frankie being exactly what he has always said he is.
I'm guessing it's part of a larger strategy to make himself mainstream politics viable as the right continues to rise and doors open for him to push his politics.
He's not so much apologising, as calling for peace. I suspect he sees the trajectory of mainland britain looking more like the troubles of northern ireland.
@@normiedeathsquad40 Nah I think he wants interviews with Nigel and other reform candidates who’ve shunned him. Carl is genuinely underrated on the right, its time we actually unite and build our strength.
Good for him. It would be nice to see Jess also apologise for her misandrist comments, her open laughter at male suicide and the many insults she's hurled at Benjamin. I didn't agree with Carl's comment when he made it, but it didn't come out of nowhere. That one definitely took two to Tango.
@@Jo-sp5cpHe always did. Apologizing for something that he did that wasn’t wrong is just cucked himself out to the left and to the dirty smear merchant media. Now that he’s admitted that he did was wrong, even though it wasn’t, they will take it as an opportunity to strike harder and press their attack further when the time comes. It’s literally just more ammo for them. Gestures of grace towards a foe that will never, ever reciprocate, is indistinguishable from an act of submission and capitulation to them. Because it pretty well is. Sargon’s talked about this for years. We’ve seen numerous examples of why this doesn’t turn out well. This was beyond stupid tactically, and morally nothing more than empty grandstanding to a foe that will only use it the more against him. Beyond foolish.
@@Jo-sp5cp No he doesn't. He is now not only the guy that said the bad thing but a bad guy that admitted he was a bad guy. The left has been running the same playbook unabashedly for the past decade and even longer in a lesser degree. How have you not noticed? How are your wits so slow?
Carl is older, more mature and responsible than he was eight years ago. It's perfectly reasonable in a time where rhetoric has massively increased in hostility and lead to several attacks on and even killing of MPs, that he would want this sort of speech off his conscience. It speaks to his character to apologise. Whether Jess Phillips apologises for the vile things she has said is irrelevant to Carl's apology; it is up to her and speaks to her character if she chooses to do the same.
The apology is it's at very little cost. It's five years after the fact, there's no public pressure to apologise, so there's less sense of having capitulated. Everyone knows there's nothing to apologise for, it was always cynical faux outrage, but we also know that Phillips would bring it up again whenever useful, as she recently did when Truss appeared on LE. The apology takes away a lot of her (and others') power to do that in future, as doing so would make her look increasingly petty.
Correct. Weird to see so many in the comment section apear to not see what Carl is doing here and act like the tone in online political discourse is still the same as in 2018.
Yes Carl was rude and insulting to Jess Phillips but that's not what she accused him of and it's not what she wants an "apology" for. In fact she doesn't even care about whether Carl apologises or not because the whole point was to DEFAME him! She won when the media {incl. the so-called Right Wing Media such as the Daily Mail and Peter Hitchens} decided to ignore all the context and take the accusation as fact! Peter Hitchens was utterly wrong in that discussion with Carl, because his entire argument was premised on Jess Phillips accusation being true!
It would be great to have Jess on the show so that she could be asked to apologise for laughing at male suicide rates, as I found this far more disgusting than the joke Carl made
By election for reform. I'm sure he was told to do this, but he does seem sincere, and tbh he should apologize. It was a nasty thing to say and we should be above our opponents not seek to their level.
Agreed, hes getting rid of this one before they fuckin on and on about it. I've followed this man since gamer gate. It would be amazing to see him in parliament and Tommy left the fuck alone.
So much for never apologise. This is a strategic decision because he a) fears retribution, b) wants to set himself up in politics, and c) is setting up a trap - if she doesn't accept she looks bad.
"All right we'll have the bad man on our show but we'll do it in an incredibly echo-y room with drab walls where you can see the power sockets so the regular normie will be discouraged from watching"
Nah I don't think so mate. Carl is a big beast to these guys and they'll make as much hay with this video as they can. I think the choice of studio was a mistake though. I much prefer the sofas by the fireside asthetic whatever the topic.
MPs have been murdered in your country in recent years, which as an Australian I find shocking. Jess Philips is clearly in danger from her own constituents.
Yeah I know it was only a crude joke, something we've all done about our political opponents in the past. I think he's grown enough to know it's about setting a better example. It's not the worst "crime" in the world, but it shouldn't tarnish his other work which is usually done to a very high standard. He's a good man and I do genuinely want to see Jess Phillips on Podcast of the Lotus Eaters so a civil conversation can be had on UK politics.
@@breaghboo-gc7ub I despised her, but after that election night I kinda feel sorry for her. I think it could be an awakening for her, shes finally seen what weve been warning about.
Great interview- glad he apologised for his personal remark. Just because someone makes rude remarks about your immutable characteristics, doesn’t mean you should
It's hard to be the better person. That's why so many don't do it. I agree with Carl, but I doubt Jess will be as gracious regarding the atrocious things she's said about men.
Really GBNews?! A 45 minute interview where Carl raises very important & very valid issues that are currently affecting our politics & country & the title of the video is simply, "Carl Benjamin apologises to Jess Phillips"?! Do you really not care about the points raised by Carl & others like him? Disappointing!
Also, the word Incel should be considered sexist and misandrist, because speaking as a Woman, the opposite would be, well, the word is so awful I don't think TH-cam will let me say it, and any Man who does say is, is condemned. Some Men struggle when it comes to dating, in fact many Women struggle, we should not shame people for this and label them with insults, also 90% of the time when a Man is referred to as an Incel, it's always assumed, unless the person has openly come out and said it, then it's nobody's business. P.S. I have 2 sons, both in their 20's, what they do in the bedroom is not my business, but if anyone referred to them as an Incel, and used it as an insult, I'd lose my temper, we often hear phrases like "stop sexualising Women", well the same rule should apply both ways. EDIT: I'll never understand how a link can be made between virginity and political views.
it's one of the words that just becomes "i do not like you, therefor you are bad". the worst thing about the actual online communities that identify with the label get raided by trolls that make the environment toxic or more toxic.
@@mistahsusan2650 I actually did some research on it, as I didn't even realize that there were people that would be open about it, and I saw a video on it (I can't share the link), where this young man with his face blurred was talking about his struggles with being an incel, and as Carl said in the above video "we should help these people", because when they don't receive help, get told their toxic etc, who are they going to turn to? They will turn to genuine misogynistic Men, older Men, who will mentor them to be like them. But I don't think it's right, to look at someone who is on the Right/Conservative leaning, who possibly has Autism, possibly lacks confidence, and say "your an Incel". Speaking as a Woman, the issue we have is filtering, some Women can filter the good from the bad, some can't, so to be impartial I don't think that it's ever right to shame a Women for her past, you could say "she is not my type", but shaming her, that's wrong, and I don't think show's like the Whatever Podcast help Women (despite myself agreeing with what the Men say on it). EDIT: With the ladies on the Whatever Podcast, the Women aren't coming their to be helped or get advice, they are coming on to defend their lifestyle, that's why the show in my opinion doesn't work, the alternative would be an Incel defending that he is an Incel to Men who aren't and is stubborn to take any advice, he's going to get made fun of.
@@januarysson5633no because she can’t touch him for a hurty word.He knows if someone said the same thing to his daughter or mother then he wouldn’t like it.He has grown upto be a gentleman .A defender of the vulnerable 👍🏻
To anyone misunderstanding this; Carl has done the virtuous & astute move here and is trying to be the better example. This is an apology to one person, how Jess Phillips responds will show what type of person she is.
Men grow, and women fade away. People in the comments saying that Sargon shouldn't apologise are missing the point. He has matured and actually has some self reflection over his actions. Jess, on the other hand, hasn't done anything to change her awful statements she has made over the years. It shows her up more for not even trying to respond to it.
Which one? - Insulating self from reprimand if she's subject to political sectarian violence - trying to get in Peter Hitchen's good books - trying to make himself acceptable to mainstream media - trying to re-enter mainstream politics (reform MP) - reducing the grudge Jess Phillips will have given her new power and influence All are good reasons. Which do you think it is?
I'm impressed with Carl's growth as a person. I've been following him since gamergate and I used to really enjoy his "edgy" humor, but as I've gotten older I've changed and I appreciate watching my favorite content creator grow as well.
Carl, this is lame. She laughed and rolled her eyes about male suicide rates. When you give her your grovelling apology face to face, are you gonna ask her to apologise for that?
Maybe that's one of the reasons he's apologising? He realises that she'd now going through an awakening so better to make amends and become allies? Additionally, he's almost certainly planning to stand as an MP......
@@CatchmeIfucan-fo2hf A black shirt's never a good look, or brown. If in doubt, and you're a certain age, just dress like Jeremy Clackson, or Ben Fogle (if you're posh).
@@AndyKirkpatrick50You're right to point out the blazer. The colours I wouldn't say are too jarring, just the way it makes his arms look very small, and his frame on the whole slight.
@MisterFluffyBags Taking responsibility for jokes? Give over, adults go "oh that's funny" or "oh that's not funny" and then move on with no need for an apology. Maybe when you grow up you might realise that.
@@yolanda8563 I'm not getting dragged into an argument over this one because it's just going to take you time and experience. I honestly wish the best of luck to you with this one. You'll get it in the end.
Carl knows and is wise enough to never, ever, ever apologise, give in, back-pedal and say sorry to the left - ever. Even if you were actually wrong, and actually mean it. So I wonder what game he’s playing. Trying to become a Reform MP? god bless.
Judging by how much he's simping, I think he's trying to become a Tory MP. He actually spoke about the Conservative Party being the only viable option in an older video.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 He was fully on board with them having zero seats. I'd be so disappointed if he did, the Tories can not be trusted. They will try and find excuses on how they'll totally fix things next time. They won't. Carl has actually been very critical about the Tories recently.
@@frishter Maybe he wants "zero seats" so he would have less competition for his proposed "long march through the Conservative Party". I don't think he had any faith in Reform until recently when he saw how surprising well they did. I forgot the name of the video, but in one he encouraged his followers to join the Tories and get into positions of leadership because he (at least then) saw the two party system as the only way. I'd give him some credit and say that if he were in charge of the Tories it would be an improvement, but his simp like attitude in this video indicates that he's at risk of catching their cuckservative mindset. Pretending to be moderate and making concessions to play the long game only works for the left, because doing so pushes the cultural overton window so far that it would make a true right inevitable unelectable because acting like a simp (even if it's as a means to an end) normalizes that way of thinking. And the left would say "Hey chuds! even Carl Benjamin the conservative extraordinaire is on board with us on this issue, so you're stepping way out of bounds and should just be locked up!".
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 ‘respectability’, backside kissing, prostrating yourself, playing along, humiliating yourself, going along with the narrative is all extremely important to the establishment and the mainstream media. I’m hoping he’s playing along to play the long game and be subversive.
Well done Carl for being the bigger person, I wouldn't hold my breath for a response let alone an acceptance. She will no doubt be cynical, she was guilty of laughing at male suicide and even during her recent experiences, she just attributes her abuse to being from men only, nothing to do with ideology or anything else.
Agreed. I don't rate Phillips as a person or a politician. The left have encouraged muslim immigration and tried to manipulate muslims to vote for them. That short lived arrangement is now over. Muslims have their own agenda and the native Brits will come to realise they will not be playing the leading role.
He's a coward that is doing political theatre to future proof any future plans to run politically. My guess is he'll try to run as a Reform candidate. Wouldn't be surprised if this has already been floated.
@@The_Comedian556 carl is an idiot and a fool for apologizing for something that wasn't wrong in the first place. and bending the knee only corrupts the person,
To be honest, I kind of respect it. In the past I’ve made offensive comments in an attempt to satirize people on the opposite side of a serious issue. The problem is that even if you’re right, you run the risk of alienating people before they’ve had a chance to hear your point. I’m a big fan of Sargon and wish more people had a chance to hear his perspective.
Fucks sake, what is the point in this? She's such a horrible woman you had every right to be pissed off and rude to her. Now this just looks like you think shes right. Its not honourable to apologise when you weren't wrong.
It is about doing the right thing and showing we are better. Think of how rape survivors felt about that joke. We have to show we are better if we are better.
@@catherinehume9193Considering most of them are violated by the lefts imports, (3000% increase since 2014). I dont imagine they give a shit about Carls words.
Carl knows not to apologise and that it is absolutely right not to. But I think he’s trying to play the angle of being the ‘better man’ to get into mainstream politics and play the long game, rather than standing on just being correct. I think it’s strategic.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 ‘respectability’, backside kissing, prostrating yourself, playing along, humiliating yourself, going along with the narrative is all extremely important to the establishment and the mainstream media. I’m hoping he’s playing along to play the long game and be subversive.
Whether you like Carl or not, an apology such as this one is so rare in modern day life and it’s quiet refreshing. I agree with a lot of Carl’s views on the world but as much as I can’t stand Jess Phillips I thought it was really wrong what he said and his subsequent refusals to apologies. If it’s just one small step to repairing the discord we have I. Our fractured country it’s an admirable one.
Perhaps Carl sees a common bond forming with Jess on seeing how she was treated recently. A bridge between left and right against a common extremist enemy.
Jess Philips used Twitter to attack and belittle a young working class lad for simply wearing the Flag of St George on his back while walking home from the footy. I have no respect for her and wish nothing but failure for her going forward. -Melbourne AU
Good lord never take advice from Peter Hitchens. He’ll just endlessly grouse and grumble, doesn’t matter what you do. Import sectarian conflicts and shockingly you get a sectarian conflict.
Carl is doing what the wokesters would never do and that is apologise and admit he was wrong without worrying about the idea that this might give the other side ammunition and show weakness, he has done it because he has principles and thinks it is important to show these principles
Those who strictly adhere to their principles are, historically, slaughtered by those who either have no principles, or are willing to toss them aside in order to win.
It was a dark/sick joke that is part of western culture, and was commonplace in comedy. Nobody took it seriously. Phillips said she was brought up to hate Tories - fine to say that, it's still a free speech country, at least for now.
Will Jess Philips apologise for laughing at male suicide?
I think you know the answer to that question
Almost certainly not.....
I’ve seen that clip. I don’t think she was laughing at male suicide. She was laughing at the idea that Parliament doesn’t have the opportunity to discuss male suicide. I still think she was wrong and it’s right for her to clarify matters and apologise for leaving the impression that she was laughing at male suicide. But stating she that she was laughing at male suicide is an unfair claim.
@@christopherflux6254 i agree , she didnt laugh at male suicide but at this time you can find the clip of her talking on a stage about Corbyn , she was asked why dd she stab him in the back, she joked she would happily stab him in the front if he was there , i found that as distasteful as carls "joke" and we would all do well to start being a little better
Jess Philips has never laughed at male suicide.
You’re a liar
Remember when Jess Phillips laughed and snickered, when male suicide rates were being discussed? Vile.
Nope. When was that?
@@e13kid The video is out there.
@@e13kid 2016
Wasn't so much laughing and snickering, it was the rolling of eyes, the groan, and the slumping over the desk like a stroppy teenager.
Snickered is an American term, in the UK the word is sniggered
Tommy Robinson nailed it in his interview with Jordan Peterson: "if you fight back against one muslim man, you take on the entire tribe". At the root, the free world is individualist, and the East is collectivist.
There is a Muslim/Bedouin saying, "Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me, my brothers and cousins against the world".
Tommy Robinstein is controlled oppositon. Do should not support this grifter in any way shape or form if you are on the British right
yep but they can't fight for toffee and thick as hell
@@davidrenton they're cowards that's the main reason
Tom Holland the historian is good on this. The book Persian Fire especially. The east has never had democratic experiments, only absolutist empires.
Jess Philips is a reason why Jess Philips experienced what she did at that stage.
Yes but if she tries to blame Carl it won’t go down as well.
@@hereticalgames3695Nonsense. People like Jess blame innocent people for their own crimes all the time and win both in the court of public opinion and in actual courts. Apologizing only makes it easier for her to win in both, not harder
The problem is other people are experiencing it as well.
Has anyone found out who they were yet?
Labour will literally reap what they have sown from the demographic they treat, like beaten children in need of a cuddle.
Meanwhile, grooming gangs are still going on all four cylinders.
She still won't call it out and blames 'all' men
She hates men.
Does she really?
@@randomhuman2595 she can't think outside of her bubble, doing so would destroy her sense of self!
Women are so disappointing these days
@TheDoctorOfPainAndWeebz the realisation of how wrong she is will at least provide us with some entertainment
We shouldn't forget she laughed at the idea of men needing rights to protect them against domestic violence... no apologies to her or her masculine jawline...
You forgot her bucked teeth
@@DevlinPlace-kz2kv And her big foul gob.
The Flintstones
A study in female DA
Definite M2F suspect
Notwithstanding the fact that the vile woman deserves no such apology, the righteous man should always take the high ground.
Well done Carl, in putting the developed version of you forward. The world does need a family man version of Andrew Tate, for young men to move their world view into as they grow.
FFS! What does GB News have against qualified sound engineers??
I agree 😂
😂😂😂 I mean I guess it’s edgy of a sort
I know right? I'm right here, gimme a job already 😂
They do seem to have pub disco acoustics.
They're all Marxists who have dedicated their lives to equalising and normalising things ;-)
Strangely the left never apologize.
That's because they think they are perfect.
They suffer from a state of Dunning Kruger that is a miracle to behold.
Nothing strange about that !
They never see anything to apologize about. There are no bad tactics, only bad targets.
Graham Linehan did. People considered him part of the woke left back when he was going after Count Dankula.
Doesn’t matter. Be better than them. Don’t do the childish, tit for tat bullshit.
Never apologize because the apology is not accepted and will be used as a concession of wrong-doing.
Carl isn't apologizing for some made up, gotcha claim made against him. He's come to an independent conclusion about the morality of his actions, not caving to an attempt to cancel him. In short, he's doing this for Carl Benjamin, his children and for his community.
@@rebby11 there was nothing immoral about what he said though
@@vileluca My impression from what he said is that he believes he did. Perhaps it wasn't a major moral error, but it was one that he regrets.
The difference was as night and day, when Jess Philips was interviewed about Carl's remarks she answered with a shit eating smirk on her face, now however, when commenting on the intimidation used against her in and her people in the recent general election, she looked like she was ready to throw up. That wasn't fake offence, that was real fear. And if anyone should be apologising it should be Tony Blair.
She voted for it, and will continue to do so. Stop trying to absolve women of accountability for their actions.
@@jamesrichards2442 NPC's are not accountable for their actions, you clearly believe this woman has more agency in the world than I accredit her for. Well, good for you, you have not descended to the level of cynicism that I have. That genuinely makes you the better person.
Beautifully put Sir.
So should the clown car of Tory leaders over the years
I kind of liked the sight of her sitting in that room full of Islamic men wearing her red handmaid's tale dress.
Of course jess Philips will reciprocate the sentiment and apologies for her misandry which spured Carl's comments.... right?
Wrong!
But you know that.
😂
No.
Dont hold your breath waiting.
Lol said the scorpion, lmao.
Carl is acting like a naughty school boy, after being taken by the ear and put before the head master. Toxic trout Philips will just see this as and enemy surrendering.
She is now experiencing what she stands for ..
They always suffer from their own ideolog, it will continue and get worse and its nothing they don't deserve imo. They deserve to live in the Muslim country they clearly want.
Karma is a Feminist.
Northerner here, a lifelong labour voter until last week, when i voted reforn, Nige is our man!
Preach fella , same case for me
Me also. Put country first.
thank you 🙏
@@aatat1 what on earth persuaded you ever to vote labour?
@@brightonduder The brain washing of our education system in the 90's and early 00's.
Being the bigger man and highlighting a growing issue of concern, fair play Carl.
I wouldn't even apologise.
He seems more mature
No one will get this - but well done 👍
@@randomhuman2595He's either a coward or a fool. Never apologize to ideological enemies.
@@ÆthelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 he knows not to apologise to the left. he knows you never ever backpedal, apologise and give in. I think he’s playing a long game hopefully 🤞🏼
@@oliverwortley3822he's going for the Martin bell look, he's starting his campaign for MP of Swindon
This was literally him kicking off his 2029 MP candidacy
I doubt that he'll have to wait that long.
✔️
Finally.. Millennial controlled opposition (Freemasons) replace the last band wagon.
Hope so!
9 years I've been watching Sargon,, crazy how much has changed
Will Jess apologise for her obnoxious attitude and behavior?
Carl you did nothing wrong it shows you have the ability for introspection but I fear she will spit in your face and use this against you forever now
@androidoficeandfire9667. I love Carl. I heartily dislike JP. I am not woke. I support free speech. But yes, Carl was wrong.
@@breaghboo-gc7ub there is more to why he should’ve stayed the course it was 8 years ago, Jess milks it for gain and will still do so after this despite not being scared, she won’t accept it, Carl is not responsible for this harshening as he warned against this so he has no reason to feel newly guilty
@@androidoficeandfire9667 He knows this. I think he’s trying to play the angle of being the ‘better man’ to get into mainstream politics and play the long game, rather than standing on just being correct. I think it’s strategic.
And you dont see how this would actually make Jess look bad?
Youre seeing this through the lens of beating someone in an argument, but that isnt how Carl is viewing it, and as someone who found his joke crass and not as bad as JP and the media represented it, I see this as a major good move by Carl.
@@oliverwortley3822 maybe but in that arena you need to be even more resistant to apologising when you know they only want your submission
If Carl felt new guilt then absolutely apologise but I don’t think he should
Never ever,ever,ever apologise to the left...
He is not apologising to "the left", he's apologising to one woman. Carl's demonstrating how a decent man behaves, by apologising when he believes an apology is right, but not apologising out of cowardice or to appease a woke mob.
@@JohnDavidSullivan No,i didn't...
agreed
Bullshit if you fuck up take responsibility and prove your growing dont be like the left and assume your right regardless that will never fix things eventually blood will be spilt on both sides until nothing is left and the real enemy can waltz right over your corpses
This is so cringe. It's like him crawling up and begging the establishment to be under thumb even more. Carl got attacked but does she worry about his safety? I haven't heard anything from Jess.
Well done Carl for being the bigger person. The moral landscape of our country has degraded in so many ways, and this is one way that it can be improved.
I can see what you are doing here Carl very fucking clever my man very clever
Took King Alfred 25 years to get rid of England's foreign invasion when six of the seven English kingdoms were controlled by foreigners. Carl is a Wessex man like me. I'm ready to join the fyrd as soon as he calls the witan!
Alright, explain then. Don't give me something like "TRUST THE PLAN" or "4D-Chess!!!".
Edgington and Carl? Edgington interviewing carl? It's all coming together
@@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 I’m assuming he thinks that Carl sees a prominent member of the Labour Party starting to wake up to the Islamist threat and can therefore become a future ally.
Lose the superfluous F word.
If Frankie Boyle said it they would still be laughing about it now...
Frankie Boyle would have finished the joke. "I wouldn't rape you. You don't deserve it."
Nope. And there is a school of thought that Frankie Boyle is hiding in plain sight, like all the others at the bbc.
He wasn’t kicked off channel 4 for no reason.
I would lay bets on Frankie being exactly what he has always said he is.
@@catherinehume9193 What is he?
@@GrandmasterFerg Yeah what is he? Left us hanging here.
What the hell is he thinking? NEVER APOLOGISE. It is just blood in the water to these authoritarian freaks.
I'm guessing it's part of a larger strategy to make himself mainstream politics viable as the right continues to rise and doors open for him to push his politics.
Carl's going to need a bigger boat at this rate.
@@damarcuscolfer1485 try9ing to change the system from the inside never works, it only leads to corruption of the misguided individual
He's not so much apologising, as calling for peace.
I suspect he sees the trajectory of mainland britain looking more like the troubles of northern ireland.
@@nathanperquin9910 the left changed it from the inside... so this is not true
Carl wants to stand as an MP for Reform.
Bonza
Absolutely
Reform wouldn't let him. The media would never stop reminding everyone about it.
Good shout
@@normiedeathsquad40 Nah I think he wants interviews with Nigel and other reform candidates who’ve shunned him. Carl is genuinely underrated on the right, its time we actually unite and build our strength.
Good for him. It would be nice to see Jess also apologise for her misandrist comments, her open laughter at male suicide and the many insults she's hurled at Benjamin. I didn't agree with Carl's comment when he made it, but it didn't come out of nowhere. That one definitely took two to Tango.
Agreed
Whatever her reaction he now has the high moral ground.💥
@@Jo-sp5cpHe always did. Apologizing for something that he did that wasn’t wrong is just cucked himself out to the left and to the dirty smear merchant media. Now that he’s admitted that he did was wrong, even though it wasn’t, they will take it as an opportunity to strike harder and press their attack further when the time comes. It’s literally just more ammo for them. Gestures of grace towards a foe that will never, ever reciprocate, is indistinguishable from an act of submission and capitulation to them. Because it pretty well is.
Sargon’s talked about this for years.
We’ve seen numerous examples of why this doesn’t turn out well. This was beyond stupid tactically, and morally nothing more than empty grandstanding to a foe that will only use it the more against him.
Beyond foolish.
@@Jo-sp5cp No he doesn't. He is now not only the guy that said the bad thing but a bad guy that admitted he was a bad guy. The left has been running the same playbook unabashedly for the past decade and even longer in a lesser degree. How have you not noticed? How are your wits so slow?
You don't agree that he wouldn't rape her?
Is rape a good thing now? Should I be worried?
Carl is older, more mature and responsible than he was eight years ago. It's perfectly reasonable in a time where rhetoric has massively increased in hostility and lead to several attacks on and even killing of MPs, that he would want this sort of speech off his conscience. It speaks to his character to apologise. Whether Jess Phillips apologises for the vile things she has said is irrelevant to Carl's apology; it is up to her and speaks to her character if she chooses to do the same.
The apology is it's at very little cost. It's five years after the fact, there's no public pressure to apologise, so there's less sense of having capitulated. Everyone knows there's nothing to apologise for, it was always cynical faux outrage, but we also know that Phillips would bring it up again whenever useful, as she recently did when Truss appeared on LE. The apology takes away a lot of her (and others') power to do that in future, as doing so would make her look increasingly petty.
Correct. Weird to see so many in the comment section apear to not see what Carl is doing here and act like the tone in online political discourse is still the same as in 2018.
Yes Carl was rude and insulting to Jess Phillips but that's not what she accused him of and it's not what she wants an "apology" for.
In fact she doesn't even care about whether Carl apologises or not because the whole point was to DEFAME him!
She won when the media {incl. the so-called Right Wing Media such as the Daily Mail and Peter Hitchens} decided to ignore all the context and take the accusation as fact!
Peter Hitchens was utterly wrong in that discussion with Carl, because his entire argument was premised on Jess Phillips accusation being true!
It would be great to have Jess on the show so that she could be asked to apologise for laughing at male suicide rates, as I found this far more disgusting than the joke Carl made
Carl Benjamin planning in standing for parliament in 2029? Got to start that de-diabolisation early.
Exactly what he's doing.
I'll never vote for him now. He a sycophant through and through
A couple minutes into the interview I had the same thought. He will definitely be running for a seat in the next general election or before then.
By election for reform. I'm sure he was told to do this, but he does seem sincere, and tbh he should apologize. It was a nasty thing to say and we should be above our opponents not seek to their level.
Agreed, hes getting rid of this one before they fuckin on and on about it. I've followed this man since gamer gate. It would be amazing to see him in parliament and Tommy left the fuck alone.
Will she apologise for her reprehensible comments, doubt it.
Noooo. Never do that. Never.
So much for never apologise. This is a strategic decision because he a) fears retribution, b) wants to set himself up in politics, and c) is setting up a trap - if she doesn't accept she looks bad.
Or he's just accepted it was a dumb thing to say.
@@anon7503 It wasn't dumb though. It was cleverly phrased.
I think he's made a play, yes... although that doesn't mean it's insincere.
@@Daimo83 I'm betting on b.
@@anon7503it was a joke. grow a pair 😂
The thing is Sargon, you have grown and changed, she has not!
I loved Carl in Star Trek TNG, the Riker Manoeuvre gets me every time
lol
Nothing says strong woman like being on the verge of tears whilst screaming that you're a 'Strong Woman' to the muslim hecklers you invited here.
Strong woman my arse. I remember a time when MPs would shut down any hecklers. Strong woman my arse couldn't cope and then had them removed.
Apologise all you wan't carl. They're still gonna bring the boot down on you.
Agreed.
"All right we'll have the bad man on our show but we'll do it in an incredibly echo-y room with drab walls where you can see the power sockets so the regular normie will be discouraged from watching"
WHAT???
Nah I don't think so mate. Carl is a big beast to these guys and they'll make as much hay with this video as they can. I think the choice of studio was a mistake though. I much prefer the sofas by the fireside asthetic whatever the topic.
MPs have been murdered in your country in recent years, which as an Australian I find shocking. Jess Philips is clearly in danger from her own constituents.
Because of her own policies.
She will bring in more of the same.
I've zero sympathy.
Yeah I know it was only a crude joke, something we've all done about our political opponents in the past. I think he's grown enough to know it's about setting a better example. It's not the worst "crime" in the world, but it shouldn't tarnish his other work which is usually done to a very high standard. He's a good man and I do genuinely want to see Jess Phillips on Podcast of the Lotus Eaters so a civil conversation can be had on UK politics.
Totally agree with you until the last point. Really not interested in anything that woman has to say.
@@breaghboo-gc7ub I despised her, but after that election night I kinda feel sorry for her. I think it could be an awakening for her, shes finally seen what weve been warning about.
@@onetwo-in4mh She brought it on herself and got what she deserved and she still won't admit the real problem. Your sympathy is misplaced.
But this will be used as proof that it wasn’t a harmless joke, it was online assault and harassment.
Great interview- glad he apologised for his personal remark. Just because someone makes rude remarks about your immutable characteristics, doesn’t mean you should
It's hard to be the better person. That's why so many don't do it. I agree with Carl, but I doubt Jess will be as gracious regarding the atrocious things she's said about men.
Really GBNews?! A 45 minute interview where Carl raises very important & very valid issues that are currently affecting our politics & country & the title of the video is simply, "Carl Benjamin apologises to Jess Phillips"?! Do you really not care about the points raised by Carl & others like him? Disappointing!
It’s a useful clickbait
He’s now retracted his statement. So does that mean he now thinks she’s a would?
LOL
I doubt that he thinks that.
Gross comment
Did he? When are where?
Only if global beer supplies have increased.
I miss spicy sargon but to move forward as a respected English gentleman, a father and an example of what we need to be as men i totally get it.
Never apologise
Jess Phillips laughs at Male Suicide. No apology or anything from a Man is ever due her, ever again. Your forgiveness is your weakness.
Also, the word Incel should be considered sexist and misandrist, because speaking as a Woman, the opposite would be, well, the word is so awful I don't think TH-cam will let me say it, and any Man who does say is, is condemned.
Some Men struggle when it comes to dating, in fact many Women struggle, we should not shame people for this and label them with insults, also 90% of the time when a Man is referred to as an Incel, it's always assumed, unless the person has openly come out and said it, then it's nobody's business.
P.S. I have 2 sons, both in their 20's, what they do in the bedroom is not my business, but if anyone referred to them as an Incel, and used it as an insult, I'd lose my temper, we often hear phrases like "stop sexualising Women", well the same rule should apply both ways.
EDIT: I'll never understand how a link can be made between virginity and political views.
it's one of the words that just becomes "i do not like you, therefor you are bad".
the worst thing about the actual online communities that identify with the label get raided by trolls that make the environment toxic or more toxic.
@@mistahsusan2650
I actually did some research on it, as I didn't even realize that there were people that would be open about it, and I saw a video on it (I can't share the link), where this young man with his face blurred was talking about his struggles with being an incel, and as Carl said in the above video "we should help these people", because when they don't receive help, get told their toxic etc, who are they going to turn to? They will turn to genuine misogynistic Men, older Men, who will mentor them to be like them.
But I don't think it's right, to look at someone who is on the Right/Conservative leaning, who possibly has Autism, possibly lacks confidence, and say "your an Incel".
Speaking as a Woman, the issue we have is filtering, some Women can filter the good from the bad, some can't, so to be impartial I don't think that it's ever right to shame a Women for her past, you could say "she is not my type", but shaming her, that's wrong, and I don't think show's like the Whatever Podcast help Women (despite myself agreeing with what the Men say on it). EDIT: With the ladies on the Whatever Podcast, the Women aren't coming their to be helped or get advice, they are coming on to defend their lifestyle, that's why the show in my opinion doesn't work, the alternative would be an Incel defending that he is an Incel to Men who aren't and is stubborn to take any advice, he's going to get made fun of.
Was Jess civil - I hardly think so.
He didn't do anything wrong and has nothing to apologise about
He’s being a gentleman , Old fashioned concept I know, but I respect him for it
@@tillyt4054Or is he afraid that now that there’s a Labour government in power there’s more an opportunity for Jess Phillips to settle the score?
@@januarysson5633no because she can’t touch him for a hurty word.He knows if someone said the same thing to his daughter or mother then he wouldn’t like it.He has grown upto be a gentleman .A defender of the vulnerable 👍🏻
@@januarysson5633she will anyway…watch this space.
Wounded narcissist with BPD and Machiavellian traits?
Just watch her…..🧐
@@tillyt4054no, you don't apologize for something someone else started. She needs to apologize first
To anyone misunderstanding this; Carl has done the virtuous & astute move here and is trying to be the better example. This is an apology to one person, how Jess Phillips responds will show what type of person she is.
She will not apologise for male suicide
@@EncoreASMR that’s on her. We’re better than them
Jess has also said something like there are more rapes on broad Street on a Friday night when someone mentioned the grooming gangs.
Men grow, and women fade away. People in the comments saying that Sargon shouldn't apologise are missing the point. He has matured and actually has some self reflection over his actions. Jess, on the other hand, hasn't done anything to change her awful statements she has made over the years. It shows her up more for not even trying to respond to it.
Having watched Sargon for many years. I see what is occurring here 🤫
Which one?
- Insulating self from reprimand if she's subject to political sectarian violence
- trying to get in Peter Hitchen's good books
- trying to make himself acceptable to mainstream media
- trying to re-enter mainstream politics (reform MP)
- reducing the grudge Jess Phillips will have given her new power and influence
All are good reasons. Which do you think it is?
I'm impressed with Carl's growth as a person. I've been following him since gamergate and I used to really enjoy his "edgy" humor, but as I've gotten older I've changed and I appreciate watching my favorite content creator grow as well.
Wow, Carl Benjamin on GB News, I never thought I'd see it.
Why? It's a right wing organisation and he's a right-winger... It's his cup of tea ☕
I felt this apology Carl. Nice one mate I’m glad you’ve done that 🫡
Carl, this is lame. She laughed and rolled her eyes about male suicide rates. When you give her your grovelling apology face to face, are you gonna ask her to apologise for that?
Carl.......NEVER apologize mate... She is a horrible person and it looks like hopefully it might have started catching up with her.....
Paul are you a mzlim if so FO
Now is the time to rise above it, take the higher ground. Trust me it’s tactical
@@janeburke147 whats a mzlim? Cant you write properly? What does FO mean? Foreign Office?? 🤣🤣
Maybe that's one of the reasons he's apologising? He realises that she'd now going through an awakening so better to make amends and become allies? Additionally, he's almost certainly planning to stand as an MP......
Wrong, it’s always worth apologising when you know you were in the wrong, regardless of the recipient.
I couldn't really listen to what Carl was saying, as all I could think of was that he really needed to apologise for that blazer.
Nothing wrong with the blazer, it’s the shirt that’s ruining it.
@@CatchmeIfucan-fo2hf A black shirt's never a good look, or brown. If in doubt, and you're a certain age, just dress like Jeremy Clackson, or Ben Fogle (if you're posh).
😅
@@AndyKirkpatrick50You're right to point out the blazer. The colours I wouldn't say are too jarring, just the way it makes his arms look very small, and his frame on the whole slight.
Oh leave off... Carl & Farage have the same tailor is all
He's not admitting he's dating Jess on the downlow, but he's not denying it either
Eeeew, sicko.
🤢
Good on you Mr. Benjamin
She never cared. It wasn't a big deal to her. It was only a cudgel for her. A cudgel with which Carl just caved in his own skull.
Pretty gay Carl, I get why you're doing it, but it's still gay.
There's nothing gay about growing up, taking responsibility, and being a better man. You'll realise when it happens to you.
@MisterFluffyBags Taking responsibility for jokes? Give over, adults go "oh that's funny" or "oh that's not funny" and then move on with no need for an apology. Maybe when you grow up you might realise that.
@@yolanda8563 I'm not getting dragged into an argument over this one because it's just going to take you time and experience. I honestly wish the best of luck to you with this one. You'll get it in the end.
@@MisterFluffyBags I wouldn't even argue with you.
Carl knows and is wise enough to never, ever, ever apologise, give in, back-pedal and say sorry to the left - ever. Even if you were actually wrong, and actually mean it. So I wonder what game he’s playing. Trying to become a Reform MP? god bless.
Judging by how much he's simping, I think he's trying to become a Tory MP. He actually spoke about the Conservative Party being the only viable option in an older video.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 He was fully on board with them having zero seats. I'd be so disappointed if he did, the Tories can not be trusted. They will try and find excuses on how they'll totally fix things next time. They won't. Carl has actually been very critical about the Tories recently.
@@frishter Maybe he wants "zero seats" so he would have less competition for his proposed "long march through the Conservative Party". I don't think he had any faith in Reform until recently when he saw how surprising well they did. I forgot the name of the video, but in one he encouraged his followers to join the Tories and get into positions of leadership because he (at least then) saw the two party system as the only way.
I'd give him some credit and say that if he were in charge of the Tories it would be an improvement, but his simp like attitude in this video indicates that he's at risk of catching their cuckservative mindset. Pretending to be moderate and making concessions to play the long game only works for the left, because doing so pushes the cultural overton window so far that it would make a true right inevitable unelectable because acting like a simp (even if it's as a means to an end) normalizes that way of thinking. And the left would say "Hey chuds! even Carl Benjamin the conservative extraordinaire is on board with us on this issue, so you're stepping way out of bounds and should just be locked up!".
@@frishter Yeah, thinking he might try and get into Reform.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 ‘respectability’, backside kissing, prostrating yourself, playing along, humiliating yourself, going along with the narrative is all extremely important to the establishment and the mainstream media. I’m hoping he’s playing along to play the long game and be subversive.
Well done Carl for being the bigger person, I wouldn't hold my breath for a response let alone an acceptance. She will no doubt be cynical, she was guilty of laughing at male suicide and even during her recent experiences, she just attributes her abuse to being from men only, nothing to do with ideology or anything else.
Agreed. I don't rate Phillips as a person or a politician. The left have encouraged muslim immigration and tried to manipulate muslims to vote for them. That short lived arrangement is now over. Muslims have their own agenda and the native Brits will come to realise they will not be playing the leading role.
He's a coward that is doing political theatre to future proof any future plans to run politically.
My guess is he'll try to run as a Reform candidate.
Wouldn't be surprised if this has already been floated.
Yes I’m sure Jess phillips and her followers really see him as the bigger man.
I think he's just going to get laughed at.
Marxist feminists would dance a dead man's grave.
@@The_Comedian556 carl is an idiot and a fool for apologizing for something that wasn't wrong in the first place. and bending the knee only corrupts the person,
A fair and respectful interview.
To be honest, I kind of respect it. In the past I’ve made offensive comments in an attempt to satirize people on the opposite side of a serious issue. The problem is that even if you’re right, you run the risk of alienating people before they’ve had a chance to hear your point. I’m a big fan of Sargon and wish more people had a chance to hear his perspective.
Fucks sake, what is the point in this? She's such a horrible woman you had every right to be pissed off and rude to her. Now this just looks like you think shes right. Its not honourable to apologise when you weren't wrong.
She laughed about the high rates of male suicides. Vile.
It is about doing the right thing and showing we are better.
Think of how rape survivors felt about that joke.
We have to show we are better if we are better.
@@catherinehume9193Considering most of them are violated by the lefts imports, (3000% increase since 2014). I dont imagine they give a shit about Carls words.
Carl knows not to apologise and that it is absolutely right not to. But I think he’s trying to play the angle of being the ‘better man’ to get into mainstream politics and play the long game, rather than standing on just being correct. I think it’s strategic.
Yes. Her potential reaction, or lack thereof of, is irrelevant to our side. Carl has assumed the high ground.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 ‘respectability’, backside kissing, prostrating yourself, playing along, humiliating yourself, going along with the narrative is all extremely important to the establishment and the mainstream media. I’m hoping he’s playing along to play the long game and be subversive.
It looks like a police interogation.
Important to be the bigger man and fess up when needed.
Well explained apology.
Whether you like Carl or not, an apology such as this one is so rare in modern day life and it’s quiet refreshing. I agree with a lot of Carl’s views on the world but as much as I can’t stand Jess Phillips I thought it was really wrong what he said and his subsequent refusals to apologies.
If it’s just one small step to repairing the discord we have I. Our fractured country it’s an admirable one.
*You were the chosen one!*
Never apologise…
@@JohnDavidSullivanI agree 👍🏻
Never apologise unless you genuinely feel you have something to apologise for. A genuine apology is as much for you as the other party.
@@Monkey-fv2km It is, and he does, and he has.
How much you betting she has none of it?
@@Monkey-fv2kmjess started it. She can laugh at men's issues being talked about and he has to apologize? Ok...
You should absolutely apologise if you feel like you have something to apologise for. Even if it's just for yourself.
Since when do you apologise for something you say that you won't do?
A wonderful interview.
Perhaps Carl sees a common bond forming with Jess on seeing how she was treated recently. A bridge between left and right against a common extremist enemy.
Pure copium mate! How else are we going to build the new super prisons (Gulags) of the future?
hopefully, but I think k you're giving the woke media and naive labour voting boomers too much credit.
What are you smoking?
Wise move Carl, hopefully clearing the way for running as an MP with Reform in the future.
@BradleyUK58 No, Carl gives the reasons for his apology to Jess Phillips but you can speculate all you like.
Will GBNews hold Jess Philips to the same standard as they hold Carl?
We know the answer…
Jess Philips used Twitter to attack and belittle a young working class lad for simply wearing the Flag of St George on his back while walking home from the footy. I have no respect for her and wish nothing but failure for her going forward.
-Melbourne AU
Embarrassing audio quality.
Never say sorry to marxists as a group, but to a single individual you should show you are a good person, and better.
I certainly wouldn't even vote for her.
I thought this was going to be a skit
It is. The Cuckalulalot has spoketh!
Kinda is! 😹
Sargon is a cluck 🤓💦💦
Well done Carl, this was the right move.
should have never apologised
Good lord never take advice from Peter Hitchens. He’ll just endlessly grouse and grumble, doesn’t matter what you do.
Import sectarian conflicts and shockingly you get a sectarian conflict.
I agree. It's playground humour and the landscape right now isn't a playground anymore. Jess needs to know who her friends and enemies really are.
and she has no friends because she is an awful person
Carl is doing what the wokesters would never do and that is apologise and admit he was wrong without worrying about the idea that this might give the other side ammunition and show weakness, he has done it because he has principles and thinks it is important to show these principles
Those who strictly adhere to their principles are, historically, slaughtered by those who either have no principles, or are willing to toss them aside in order to win.
Being nice to left wingers is like being nice to Nazis.
It never ends up well for the nice reasonable and rational people.
This is the woman who openly says she hates Tories.....from a pretty wealthy and well connected leftist family.
NEVER APOLOGISE, FFS
He is a genuine guy. He can hold his head up.
He just shoved his head up his arse and kissed it goodbye if he thought the left forgive and forget.
It was a dark/sick joke that is part of western culture, and was commonplace in comedy. Nobody took it seriously. Phillips said she was brought up to hate Tories - fine to say that, it's still a free speech country, at least for now.
She played the victim like a champ.
She got tea and sympathy.
Never apologize to those people.
Why interview Carl in a horrid little interrogation chamber under green lights? Was this a result of conscious choices made by the producers?
Is this an apology for legal reasons? Coerced by GB News? What’s the story with this? Why dredge this old issue up?
Should never have apologised.
Weasel polititions, don't apologise.
You miss the point completely