Gunsmithing, SDI, and other Thoughts

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  • Since people are talking about Sonoran Desert Institute (SDI) again, I went and put all my thoughts on SDI, getting into gunsmithing, etc in once place.
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    I'm Ivan - a fella who works to document and record the history and technical background of the development of homemade firearms.
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  • @cherenkov_blue
    @cherenkov_blue หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    I'm not a gunsmith, I'm a gonsmiff. A horrible amalgamation of bubba and weekendgunnit that should not be.

    • @logi7671
      @logi7671 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I miss gunnit

    • @IVIaskerade
      @IVIaskerade หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The personification of "There is a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed it but let's keep going and see what happens"

    • @cherenkov_blue
      @cherenkov_blue หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@IVIaskerade after accruing several unholy experiments in the form of tested-to-destruction prints and bent receiver stampings that would fit said description, at a certain point I had to accept that this is just my life now

    • @thepinkpolarbear77
      @thepinkpolarbear77 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It exists still just a bit fractured compared to the OG​@@logi7671

  • @jonh2798
    @jonh2798 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    I dremeled the paddle release block out of my older sp5k. I am gonsmif

    • @Dukers2300
      @Dukers2300 หลายเดือนก่อน

      gurmschmafthpt

    • @TwoScoopsofDestroyer
      @TwoScoopsofDestroyer หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I can fieldstrip my 15 and mounted my scope on pre-existing rail myself, gonsmiff.

  • @JaredAF
    @JaredAF หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    A vise is the most important tool in the shop! In my mind, machining/metal work is a puzzle of figuring out a way to hold the work and a way to cut/shape it to the drawing

  • @Mongo63a
    @Mongo63a หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    I'm a mechanical engineer in the gun industry, I have rarely seen anyone with gunsmith skills at a factory setting that assembles guns. Mostly these days its assembly line work where you do one/few task only. This is more due to tolerancing correctly of designs and CAD/CAM where the parts are final dimension and not file to match like the older firearms assembly use to be. Now gun stores, even many so called "gunsmiths" at stores are not gunsmiths either. They might be able to take apart a gun and clean it but its rare that one can properly make and fit a part to fix an action. Mark Noval is a channel people need to watch if they would like to see some real gunsmithing work.

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So, did you just go to college for just mechanical engineering or is there somewhere that has small arms engineering as a specific field of study? Did you actually even get a degree in mechanical engineering at all? Reason I ask that is because I have spent a large portion of my adult life working in machine shops and currently work in a large machine shop owned by a popular automotive manufacturer and MANY of our engineers are not formally trained as engineers. They started as machinists or tool and die makers and eventually moved into our design/engineering department from there. Don't get me wrong, we do have a lot of people who graduated with a B.S. in mechanical engineering also--but there are plenty who never went to college after they completed their machinist/tool and die apprenticeship. This has been true at every machine shop I've worked in and I've made a lot of mechanically complicated parts at different factories.
      I myself am a tool and die apprentice who is transitioning into CNC machining. I also have an interest in design so I took classes on Solidworks. I eventually would like to work in the firearms industry. Even though I'm just an apprentice, I have a ton of experience running machines on my own without supervision from a journeyman because I run the machines on the night shift so I'm pretty sure I could already get a good paying job in the gun industry if I applied somewhere. Most machinists never even complete an apprenticeship, they just take a few classes and make chips. I'm the first CNC apprentice at my shop in like 20 years.

    • @Mongo63a
      @Mongo63a หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@armorers_wrench I have a BSME. I started in the oil industry after college but always had my own designs in my head for guns. I taught myself Solidworks. I had my first successful design after a bet with Mark Serbu. CZ produced it and it sold great in Europe and the US. I then did some patent drawings and design work which lead to me doing contract jobs for 10 different manufacturers. The military uses two of my designs.
      College does not teach Engineers how to do specific work, they teach how to approach problems to solve them with he tools you have learned. Typically engineers learn from the supervising engineers through mentorship. I had to mostly mentor myself since the oil industry does not directly apply to firearms.
      I'm now retired but still take on some contract jobs for the firearms industry.

    • @Mongo63a
      @Mongo63a หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@armorers_wrench Weird I replied and it seems it was deleted? Short version I do have a BSME from 1989.

  • @JaredAF
    @JaredAF หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    For the amount that SDI wants, you could do over a dozen projects and learn more than any course could teach you from a book. Even just simple stuff like learning how to file/stone things flat and parallel, that *feel* and really the "artist's eye" can't be taught out of a book. If you put all of that tuition/fees into *just* doing 1911s, and set a goal like be able to produce a 1911 than can do 2" or better at 50 yards, you'd be a fantastic and valuable smith by the end of it.

  • @bigmike-
    @bigmike- หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    I've always understood (and explained to others) the topic of gunsmithing as thus:
    * A "hobbyist" can build a gun from parts, but lacks the ability or desire to modify, adjust or fabricrate their own parts, and are often uneasy actually putting their own guns together (although they will if they don't have another choice). A hobbyist may have a generalized understanding of how a particular firearm works, but will lack the more in-depth knowledge about things like the physics, geometry, chemistry or math behind how it works. A hobbyist would likely be a lot of the traditionally popular folks in the Guntuber space, like Matt Carriker.
    * An "armorer" can build a gun from parts, and has the ability and desire to modify those parts as needed, and will be able to fabricate certain components, as needed, depending on the complexity of those components. An armorer will also have an in-depth knowledge of how a particular platform functions, and understand how to adjust the performance of that platform to fit their needs. An armorer would be someone like PrintShootRepeat or Ivan (no offense Ivan

    • @fire_tower
      @fire_tower หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      IMO an armorer can build a gun from parts and a gunsmith can make new parts, an inventor is required to make a new design.

    • @urjnlegend
      @urjnlegend หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @bigmike- bullshi, the gunsmith nowadays is a just a person with a retail shop. The titles mean nothing

    • @BeapSterntail
      @BeapSterntail หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "Everybody knows at least one bubba."
      [Insert any PoopMadness vid]

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What so many people fail to include in these descriptions is the gunsmith's ability not just to fabricate a gun or gun part but their ability to fabricate tooling/fixtures/specialty tools . IMO a true gunsmith is a machinist to some extent. They may not be a true journeyman machinist capable of writing CNC programs but they should at a MINIMUM know how to operate a lathe and a bridgeport style mill. I'd also say they should know how to operate a surface grinder. Comes in real handy when metal working...
      I wanted to be a gunsmith but there aren't very many apprenticeships these days for it so I got into a Tool and Die maker's apprenticeship and then from there transitioned into a CNC machinists apprenticeship. I know how to run manual machines(because I started in tool and die) and I know how to operate CNC and even do my own programs although I need to get more advanced in programming before I call myself a programmer. I can also use solidworks to design my own parts before I fabricate them which is very handy.

    • @jameson7276
      @jameson7276 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not so sure Mark could make a (good) gun from scratch.

  • @mythguard6865
    @mythguard6865 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I never learned more about gun smithing in any course than I learned from working in a machine shop.

  • @pablowentscobar
    @pablowentscobar หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    My uncle was a "Gunsmith", and I use the quote marks because he was a machinist by trade and always loved firearms and kind of slowly transitioned his way into it and was able to make a career out of it through the mid 80's until he died in 2003. He use to make a new mini canon every year for the 4th of July and fire it off all afternoon. Super fun as a kid.

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      My "intro to machine ops" professor showed us a cannon he had turned on a lathe. It's actually really easy to make.

  • @TenaciousTrilobite
    @TenaciousTrilobite หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It'd be neat if we had more smiffs into stamping or metal shaping. So many esoteric clips and dust covers that are extinct or only have crappy non-functional repros. Maybe there's not enough meat on that bone to keep the lights on, though. And flat springs! Old guns are like 20% flat springs by volume

    • @IvanPrintsGuns
      @IvanPrintsGuns  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've had decent luck with flat springs by having the 2d shapes lasered out of spring steel then threaded, bent up, etc as needed, then heat treated. The one redeeming thing about flat springs is you've typically got plenty of room for error to make little tweaks. I've had luck printing some small stamped parts, like the shell latch on a CZ241, and that's holding up well.

    • @TenaciousTrilobite
      @TenaciousTrilobite หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@IvanPrintsGuns I’ve thought about trying to get a laser and learning to make them. Just need to find space and time. Haven’t had good experiences with smiths making them in the past.
      I had a Frommer Stop missing an ejector spring. Went to a smith that several people had recommended, provided pictures of the part from an old manual, and then went over how the action worked and what the important dimensions/features were. His first attempt didn’t work in a way that made it clear he didn’t bother to test it. I brought it back for a second attempt. That one also didn’t work, but it was close enough that I could fix it with a jeweler’s file.
      The other time I brought in a hammerless SxS for an unrelated repair (different smith). When he handed it back, he said he had to make a new left sear spring. I had the gun apart previously, so I knew it was fine when I gave it to him. His replacement is so weak that it lets go under recoil, so now pulling the front/right trigger fires both barrels.

  • @pheonixostapowich3797
    @pheonixostapowich3797 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I've wanted to be a gun designer and smith since I was a young teenager. I decided that my best option was to become a good machinist, and work on my own designs and guns to learn the skills I needed past machining. In retrospect I think that was a very good choice. I got a job/apprenticeship at a small job and production shop where there's a good mix of manual, CNC, and some hand work. It's been a great way to learn a variety of metalworking skills and also understand how to design parts with good machining practices in mind.
    Worst comes to worst and I absolutely fail on my own gun designs and such, I'll still be an employable machinist.

    • @griffithguns1776
      @griffithguns1776 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm on the exact same path now

  • @blade_player1159
    @blade_player1159 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love your long form commentary videos ivan! They scratch the tisim spot perfectly

  • @BigAirr.
    @BigAirr. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i’ve seen so many videos sponsored by SDI glad someone like you is giving an honest run down

  • @buncer
    @buncer หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @ForgottenWeapons should share this invaluable video for a question he gets so often.

  • @safior420
    @safior420 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I recently built my first rifle(AR-15 in an a3 triad chassis) and tbh the most satisfying part was fixing the out of spec trigger they sent in the parts kit. 5 hours and 1 destroyed harbor freight flat file later, it feels like MY rifle where before it was just A rifle

  • @kevinalmgren8332
    @kevinalmgren8332 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I think if you’re a gunsmith, you should be willing to tell customers, “I don’t know how to do this, here’s a refund.”
    My first experience with a gunsmith was a supposedly good shop that couldn’t figure out what I did to a Ruger MkII to make it not work, but they billed me for a bunch of VQ springs they stuffed inside it at an insane mark-up. I was annoyed, so I watched a video, learned how to take a MkII apart completely, took it apart, took another one apart, measured every part with calipers, figured out what was wrong, and fixed it.
    I never used that shop again, though.

  • @death-to-dogma6142
    @death-to-dogma6142 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I look at gunsmiths like I do mechanics. The breath of skill and knowledge between them is massive in scale. From a local shop mechanic to a certified CAT diesel technician and everything in between. They vary drasticly in experience and expertise, but they are all mechanics. The same is true for gunsmiths.
    As for SDI, a guy who worked for them for 7 years was on a live with Focus Tripp, and he summed it up perfectly. "SDI is a marketing company, not a gunsmithing school."

  • @sevenity2677
    @sevenity2677 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What you have said about troubleshooting and fucking things up is how we learn! Well said freeman👍🏼

  • @jimafcarbon4433
    @jimafcarbon4433 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I commend you for trying. Lots and lots of good info. I completely understand and dont take for granted i lucked out in my path. I k ow it wont and cant be that easy for many, hell, most. But the "figure it out" concept is lost on many. Most lack motivation and the vigor required to become what they say they want. If they can figure out how different guns work, they can figure out how to become a gunsmith. It takes a certain type of mentality to find a way to make it work.

  • @joesephkingston1621
    @joesephkingston1621 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have hundreds of hours grinding out corrosion with cratex bits in a die grinder. I could smell them as soon as you said the name.

  • @tommcnutt8794
    @tommcnutt8794 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly I hope you do make more content like this. Love informative long form videos like this. Also it’s a tragedy that I just found this video thanks to the TH-cam algorithm get Mat to shout you out more.

  • @griftinggamer
    @griftinggamer หลายเดือนก่อน

    Real eternal fudd gonsmiff here. I fully agree with this video. I kinda want to share my story here, because it ties into the video. I spent my adolescent years watching Tales of the Gun and getting my dad to take me to the LGS to harass them about whatever guns I learned about that week and to get my hands on them or something similiar. We had a LGS on every corner it seemed, but we traveled a lot and I got to spend hours in countless stores all over the south.
    By the time I was a teenager, when I wasnt at school I was hanging out in a shop and helping with anything I could. An old grumpy gunsmith finally let me watch him work on stuff and I spent what seemed like forever doing just the most menial minor things like mounting scopes, refinishing wooden stocks, all sorts of fairly mundane stuff that seemed really cool at the time that this video covers. Being the young military gun lover I got the cool gig of handling every dicked up milsurp rifle.
    After a few years of this I was trusted by so many people that it was a sense of pride. The problem is, everything has changed so much in the last several years.
    You cant be a gunsmith by taking an online or college class anymore than you can be a welder, electrician or machinest. I moved on mostly since the owner died but still do the odd job here and there.
    This sort of video gave me some hope for a new wave to somehow emerge out of the shitty circumstances. It seems to me it was a lot easier to get going in a work capacity in the 90s, but a hell of a lot more accessible to be a hobbyist DIYer today.

  • @stonehalo1632
    @stonehalo1632 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ive got a literal workshop but no place to actually set up shop... frustration on a whole new level...

  • @TheHamgamer
    @TheHamgamer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The things mentioned here as far as the mindset to this trade can apply to any other kind of trade. Mainly the drive to learn.

  • @teabulls
    @teabulls หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    i gots the same screwdriver set. i broked it

  • @lamarpowell5168
    @lamarpowell5168 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All I needed was that little push to get me looking at banged up old shotguns again.

  • @bulldaggerwatkins190
    @bulldaggerwatkins190 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Art School, Film School, MBA… All good analogies.
    Also, I originally got into 3D printing for the sole purpose of printing jigs, fixtures, and tools.

  • @tsuchinokoz5036
    @tsuchinokoz5036 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    No gunsmith I met has formal gunsmith training. It’s hard as it is and the rich make it harder by keeping the normals away from
    Guns

  • @LackLusterMedia
    @LackLusterMedia หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Can I identify as a gunsmith?

    • @splocket
      @splocket หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I diagnose you as gumsmiph

    • @itsthorondil7608
      @itsthorondil7608 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Technically yes

    • @coolbugfacts1234
      @coolbugfacts1234 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      you should identify as having a second joke

    • @S1deshowRob
      @S1deshowRob หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@coolbugfacts1234seriously

    • @ThePatriotParadox
      @ThePatriotParadox หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      According to SDI... If you can put together Legos.. Then yes

  • @RedZeppelinAirship
    @RedZeppelinAirship หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tools for any sort of smithing or machining are the same as ones for gunsmiths.
    Think of: (this is a lot btw)
    #1- Money
    #2- Time
    #3- A will to loose/break tools somehow
    #4- A good aerated space
    #5- A will to learn and get 2 hours of sleep
    Past that, in terms of tools and such:
    High quality punch set (get 2 in case of breakage)
    Brass hammers, plastic hammers, & small regular hammers
    A good set of precision/electronic repair screwdrivers and bits
    a set of regular screwdrivers with security bits.
    A LOT of random different files of various sizes (Most important imo)
    A high quality dremel with a LOT of attachments (filing stones, drill bits, etc)
    Chamfer related add-ons for drill/press
    tapping driver tool
    tap & die set
    A drill press
    12 ton press
    lathe
    drill bits
    electric sander
    3d printer (good for making molds) (knowledge of solid works or blender may help)
    a decent vice
    A decent welder & welding mask
    A mask and safety goggles.
    A sharpie marker and a bunch of plastic bags for labeling parts for storage or for when you stop for the day.
    a bunch of oils, lube, and grease.
    vice grips, and a lot of different pliers
    Staining oils for wood, and bluing related kits for metal.
    mechanics gloves, and work gloves.
    A good EDC flashlight
    A magnifying glass
    A good multitool
    A good pocketknife
    A large magnet to put near the ground to find pins/screws you drop
    No-go gauges, go gauges, field gauges for various calibers.
    Snap caps.
    Hex keys Metric and imperial
    A cheap ratchet set.
    crescent wrenches
    Electrical tape, duct tape, flex tape.
    A good med kit (in case you cut yourself)
    thread lockers
    break cleaner & WD40

  • @KramerdeGamer
    @KramerdeGamer หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    so what youre saying is, that because i have a dremel tool, i too am a gunsmiff? I cant wait to start cutting glock slides!

  • @griffithguns1776
    @griffithguns1776 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think if you repair guns, or build guns, or manufacture components, and do these well, you deserve to be called a gunsmith.

  • @lbg59mp
    @lbg59mp หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love these talking videos

  • @NotaGuntuber
    @NotaGuntuber หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could not agree more that the the best way to learn is by doing and it's not super expensive to start. I'm only a couple years in myself. I started doing videos, which pushed myself to learn even more news things, over the past 11 months and it's amazing how much I've managed to learn in less than a year. So yeah, just go do! And if you find you're not learning the new things you think you should be, or fast enough, find a way to push yourself, hold yourself accountable.

  • @codysheppard3447
    @codysheppard3447 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Latex gloves are your friend for metal splinters, microflex diamond grip is what I used as a machinist.

  • @coolbugfacts1234
    @coolbugfacts1234 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Math I think is highly underrated as a skill, and it's one you really do need to practice at. I'm a software developer, I have a computer science bachelor's and a Math minor, and I recently relearned long division and pre-calculus. It wasn't hard but it's amazing how quickly you can forget things.

    • @coolbugfacts1234
      @coolbugfacts1234 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Calculus and long division are not often that useful but being able to convert ratios and percentages is very useful and can be a bit unintuitive.

  • @GUNROCKS1990
    @GUNROCKS1990 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting subject

  • @lowellhouser7731
    @lowellhouser7731 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I started with 80% AR's and have migrated into 3D printing them. And 1911's. From here I'm going to be going into CNC machining, anodizing, etc. Have a few Parker-Hale Mauser bolt-action castings that are going to get machined a& heat-treated, custom stocks, and converted over to use Savage barrels.

  • @stonegiant4
    @stonegiant4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found this video helpful. Thanks for the insights.

  • @MoJosMojo
    @MoJosMojo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Learning by doing is very true. I’ve worked on dozens of my own guns. Still consider myself a bubba level amateur but I know more than when I started.

  • @Squirl513
    @Squirl513 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Almost everything that you've said about gunsmithing counts for machining as well. 👍

  • @Whiskerz77
    @Whiskerz77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is almost word for word for what I tell people who wanna get into it

  • @johngaltman
    @johngaltman หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually have a degree from SDI in Firearms Technology, I also have a Bachelors degree in Economics, and yet I am not an Economist... I will say that I have gotten to work on many guns because I have the degree from SDI... BUT.... I have learned most things about how to work on any gun from watching videos online.
    To be honest, if you want to be a gunsmith, just claim you have a degree from anywhere, because NO one will look it up... So a gunsmith degree from Harvard will get you business...
    But, I will say you just have to actually care about what you are doing, I care about old guns, and I take a doctors oath, Do no Harm...

  • @mikepj67
    @mikepj67 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found the American Gunsmith publication very helpful in my pursuit of the hobby.

  • @timwilliamanderson
    @timwilliamanderson หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s hilarious I used to work in a machine shop where I would do a bunch of custom one off on manual machines. A bunch of it ended up being automotive related, but a lot of it was also making weird gun parts even like spring and stuff. I did a lot of welding too(when needed for machining). I can absolutely handle a bunch of that stuff. I would never call myself a gunsmith because I really struggle like making wooden stocks and repairing wooden stocks and things like drilling and tapping the receiver on my 870 took me some thought process. But a guy I met did the gunsmithing classes at Sdi, crapply assembled a black powder rifle and now he’s out there in the industry, trying to be a gunsmith. (also he owns like eight Bear Creek arsenal rifles and not a single quality rifle.) he couldn’t run a mill or a or cut a dovetail make a spring.

  • @phetkingblobfish8682
    @phetkingblobfish8682 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pine Technical and Community college has a great in person gun smithing program

  • @DaedalusHelios
    @DaedalusHelios หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are levels of gunsmiths. Assembling them, repairing them(mechanical or artistic), fabricating them, and fabricating parts for the repairs as needed(highest level) alongside designers which can be visionary gunsmiths that change the field(Hoffman and the like).

  • @samuelpatrick5050
    @samuelpatrick5050 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So basically, its a trade with specializations. Like, you could be a master electrician, but only specialize in residential wiring

  • @BigPhilsSaws
    @BigPhilsSaws หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that is the number one that people need to hear loud and clear. You do NOT need a license to build guns or repair guns. You need a license to sell them if manufacturing for sale is your business.

  • @FairFrozen55
    @FairFrozen55 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the Blueing advice, I want to get a polished PP and I guess Ill follow up this instead.

  • @luked2767
    @luked2767 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had SDI once from a tinder date. It was like pissing gasoline for weeks.....

  • @JurassicJolts
    @JurassicJolts หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As always he be out here spitting facts

  • @cringelemon5365
    @cringelemon5365 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The friends we made were the bolts we gapped along the way. (I am fully a bubba)

  • @nickb8755
    @nickb8755 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video great resource

  • @farmyardfab
    @farmyardfab หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I unsporterized a saiga 12, I em GumSmif.

  • @martinrps13
    @martinrps13 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am not a gunsmith, more of an armorer. I weld, do a little machining, and have custom made a decent amount of stuff. I am actually stating DSI soon for their drone program. Simple way to get into that hobby, get certified, and get paid to do so with the GI Bill. But I can tell you from speaking to their reps for a few month: they don’t like to be honest about telling you want the program cost.

  • @davidvanderweele4757
    @davidvanderweele4757 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just reprofiled a cheap "pa-15" lower from a2 style to a partial fence a1 using carbide burrs. I fucked a lot of it up and spent so many hours with a set of diamond hand files smoothing out the areas I mutilated. In the end it turned an ugly lower I was reticent to use into a lower I'm excited to use in a retro build, plus I learned quite a bit.

  • @ThePatriotParadox
    @ThePatriotParadox หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have studied machinery, hours and hours in lathes, presses, mills, and took Glock, AR, armorer's courses and a gunsmith is basically a type of engineer that works on the products they build... I been doing this for years a decade, built 15 or so ARs , couple 1911's, and numerous Glocks and P80's etc.... i still call myself an apprentice in gunsmithing, which technically i am one, but not a word to be used lightly

  • @sssss8700
    @sssss8700 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have a degree in ME and can confirm I can’t remember how to subtract much less do differential equations

  • @SW-mz3wb
    @SW-mz3wb หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Greetings, Mr. Rat

  • @Cypress1312
    @Cypress1312 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I took a hacksaw to my shotgun(still legal length)
    gumsniff

    • @IvanPrintsGuns
      @IvanPrintsGuns  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Gun sniff is when make illegal gun on accident

    • @Cypress1312
      @Cypress1312 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@IvanPrintsGunsNo gun is illegal Chevron deference gone says so

    • @IvanPrintsGuns
      @IvanPrintsGuns  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Woah

    • @WHO-xi4zp
      @WHO-xi4zp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Cypress1312just went to chevron and got stabbed 47 times. Chevron defense does NOT work.

  • @lurcocataphagas3164
    @lurcocataphagas3164 หลายเดือนก่อน

    37:42 Ivan: "Matt is a lower caste than burger flippers" 😁

  • @KrisTomich
    @KrisTomich หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    How do you become a gunsmith?
    Take metalworking in high school if you can. Go apply for a gun manufacturer as a floor staffer, and work until you can train as a machinist.

    • @IvanPrintsGuns
      @IvanPrintsGuns  หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      You can work on the floor at a gun factory for decades and not really do any gunsmithing. It really depends on what your actual role is.

    • @KrisTomich
      @KrisTomich หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@IvanPrintsGuns if you've worked for decades without moving, you weren't trying to move.

    • @0sm1um76
      @0sm1um76 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@KrisTomich Something tells me you've never worked an assembly line.

    • @KrisTomich
      @KrisTomich หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@0sm1um76 You're absolutely correct. And if you haven't moved up IN DECADES, you didn't want to move.
      Moving up may require switching employers.

    • @isaac6077
      @isaac6077 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@0sm1um76i have. Most companies that arent already massive will have room for movement

  • @BudgiePanic
    @BudgiePanic หลายเดือนก่อน

    The part at the end sounds a lot like the discourse around being a mechanical engineer vs an aeronautical engineer. With some effort a mechanical engineer can work their way into aeronautical engineering, but not really the other way round

  • @ut_punkn1859
    @ut_punkn1859 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most people are glorified armorers. Gunsmiths are people who have the ability to manufacture their own firearms. From turning a barrel, jeweling a bolt, also knows about bluing, and color case hardening.

  • @ted3681
    @ted3681 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the OutOfBattery streams was on the same topic, I found it pretty informative: "The Guncad Home Workshop with OA" (watch?v=RUTwIQtfxSc)
    One thing I will add: BreakFree CLP gives major rashes, I had to stop using it on guns I work on continuously (Stupid Advantage arms kit...) in favor of Balistol.

  • @mccad00
    @mccad00 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been spending the last few days dicking around with designing a polymer handguard for an Aug A3. I’d like to attach it to the barrel assembly so that it doesn’t interfere with the QD barrel system, but one issue I’m running into is finding a way to mount it without allowing direct heat transfer from the gas block into the handguard; I’ve been sliding over the bayonet lug and pinning in place at the swivel point of the vertical foregrip, but the bayonet lug heats up enough to melt and distort the connection after about 50 rounds. Is there something you’d recommend for insulating prints from heat over direct attachment points like this? My next idea was to have a machinist make a bushing that attaches to the bayonet lug threads, wrap it in some high heat insulating material, and have the 3D print sleeve over that bushing, but I’m not sure what would be the best material to do that with.

  • @popinmo
    @popinmo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    anyone whos into gunsmithing doesn't need a school to do it they need to learn manufacturing or gun repair those are the two things someone in gunsmithing is going to be doing

  • @mrsaturdaynightspecial3055
    @mrsaturdaynightspecial3055 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sorry for bothering everyone, but the documents link on the barrel making video is dead.
    Is there another active link?

  • @kingofdaplayazball5817
    @kingofdaplayazball5817 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I AM A PROUD DREMELFU- I MEAN *DREMELSMITH*

  • @makegrowlabrepeat
    @makegrowlabrepeat หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't know you had your own channel!

  • @ElTejon47901
    @ElTejon47901 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Moar rambly.

  • @oscarfloyd2678
    @oscarfloyd2678 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a huge difference between being a "Gunsmith" and an "Armorer"

  • @monkey6430
    @monkey6430 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shoptalk is good content

  • @excedrintablet
    @excedrintablet 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Archimedes had 3d printers Syracuse would be a global superpower today.

  • @SgtEaglefort
    @SgtEaglefort 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i called a local gun store/gun smith for some reason and ended up shooting the shit
    he mentioned SDI and i was like yeah i could do it, i got a GI Bill
    i called them but their customer service was lazy and never got back to me.
    thank god they didnt

  • @bea3man205
    @bea3man205 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These comments may get lost in the algorithm but here’s my advice (from some random dude on the internet). Buy a book on communication like Dale Carnegie, how to win friends and influence people. It’s a more effective skill to talk with other people than to know gun smithing. Next good small gun repair shops in your area. Know what you’re looking for are old gun smiths/hobbies. Age 65 to 80, they are rare but they are out there. No one that does it for a living has the time to train you. You have to look at the guy kids moved away, that doesn’t need the money, that just enjoys the trade. Is your communication skills, It’s very easy once you got it down. If he makes an offer to take you under neath his wing you have to make that decision. You may say they these people don’t exist. Wrong I been ask 4 separate times from different people to be their apprentice. All because of charm and communication.
    If you made it these far, last piece of advice, just got out there and look around. When one door closes another opens. The worst thing is they say know, but if you like each other you just made a friend and that sometime more powerful than master a skill. Best of luck out there

  • @simoncleret
    @simoncleret หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An actual gunsmith is when you're a jack of all trades but in a very specialized niche...

  • @Lavadawg0311
    @Lavadawg0311 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I went to where it’s at in Tempe and idk seems 🐟 🐟

  • @edm240b9
    @edm240b9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do want to start 3D printing guns, but I guess what’s preventing me is that I just don’t know where to start. That and the lack of space since I live in an apartment.

    • @IvanPrintsGuns
      @IvanPrintsGuns  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The CTRLPEW Getting Started Guide is where to start

    • @edm240b9
      @edm240b9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@IvanPrintsGuns thanks. Love the content here and on Fuddblasters btw.

    • @isaac6077
      @isaac6077 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IvanPrintsGunsonly worthwhile thing u said in entire video and comment section

  • @anthonyduguay8989
    @anthonyduguay8989 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is probably a stupid question but: I'm a CNC operator, would my prescription Z87 safety glasses be sufficient, or would I need something else?

    • @IvanPrintsGuns
      @IvanPrintsGuns  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Something that can protect your eyes from springs/detents launched out of guns, fragments from broken tools, etc. Something rated for being around machine tools should be sufficient.

  • @Pepe46873
    @Pepe46873 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20k could pay for your schooling to do a machinist apprenticeship and theirs always good jobs for a machinist. Or any other trade that’ll make you experienced with tools to be a hobby gunsmith on the side.

  • @rhino7342
    @rhino7342 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @24:00 Nitrile gloves

  • @spencerbell2199
    @spencerbell2199 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love you mister ratman

  • @unclebobthe1
    @unclebobthe1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey. The government has some rules about doing work on other people's firearms and taking possession for any length of time. And then there is the manufacturing, assembly and sales suff.
    Follow the rules. So they don't start following you.

  • @Cyberdemon-9001
    @Cyberdemon-9001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, my story. I grew up in a democrat house hold. I didn't hate guns (gamer) but the purchasing wasn't something I wanted to do. Covid hit, and I freaked out. I saw the violence and anger (summer of love xD) so 2 years ago, with a few friends recommending me, I purchased a glock 21. I was hooked.
    Fas forward 6 months, purchased a sks, a zpap m70, a 308 ar, and a ar15. Sold the ar's due to numerous issues (palmetto state armory). And new I needed a ar15 proper. 80% arms entered my life. That first ar lower, oh man. I still use it, but christ I sometimes feel sketchy with it. Since I've built a ar 308 (aero precision) a ar 45 (80% arms) and a ar 15 (0% arms). And am looking to build a polish ak kit. I simply followed tutorials until I got stuck, shelved it for a week, found out I was missing a tool, bought a cheap one, finished the project (broke the tool), and then bought a nicer tool. I want to do 3d printing at some point. I also want to assemble my own upper. Been looking for a block and vice to start. So for everyone who thinks it's gunna be hard, it is, but come on, I did it you can too.

    • @isaac6077
      @isaac6077 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gonna be honest your the exact person this video was made for

  • @宠物-c5u
    @宠物-c5u หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah budy

  • @lililililililili8667
    @lililililililili8667 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to solder an rmr mount onto a blackpowder revolver

    • @sestorm2159
      @sestorm2159 หลายเดือนก่อน

      weld not solder

  • @danielsaada2214
    @danielsaada2214 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most important thing: safety glasses. You wont believe how much you need them until you walk around for days with tiny steel particle irritating the sh1t out of you with pain that gives you suicidal tendencies just to end the suffering. Safety Glasses ALWAYS. vice: alot of vices are trash. I start cursing the shop owner and throw heavy vices that he sold me. The problem? You need STRONG CALIBRATED VICE. if youll examine the vice closely, you will notice that one lip is higher or lower, which makes your steel off point. Or one lip is loose, so the steel will move while working. I went to new shop, and examine his vice closely which makes people think youre strange, but who cares😅. I got me a beautiful strong and balanced vice. I was making the fgc bolt but the firing pin channel always went sideways and not straight. I finaly understood that my vice was the problem and not my inexperience. Got GOOD reliable vice, never drilled sideways again. Perfect allignment.

  • @davidhernandez9985
    @davidhernandez9985 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iv challenge: can you produce the M41A-PulseRifle with the weapon's option's flame-thrower and rocket launcher you can?

  • @natenotabot1234
    @natenotabot1234 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gunsmithing as an art is probably similarly taught, though through a much longer curriculum to welding. There is some people that are going to struggle, because it’s just a certain layer of art to it that makes it quality. Your welds may hold for testing, but look like crap.

  • @ukaszbiaas183
    @ukaszbiaas183 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there some useful literature about gunsmithing?

  • @DodoYuhhr
    @DodoYuhhr หลายเดือนก่อน

    rip jstark

  • @valkireace
    @valkireace หลายเดือนก่อน

    for me gunsmithing is things I can't do even with tools, for example removing a tikka t3 barrel which they way over torque.

  • @WTerryNC
    @WTerryNC หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you want to be a gunsmith, do everything said in this video. If you do everything in this video and still have a G.I. bill you want to use there are a dozen or more legitimate hands on gunsmithing schools who will gladly take your money and teach you something useful in the process.

  • @jeffcoopersghost5159
    @jeffcoopersghost5159 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Professional, Certified, Insured Gunsmith here. I Graduated Colorado School of Trades in 2013. Ask me anything.

  • @franky334444
    @franky334444 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m a smith. I got dremel
    Bbzzzzzzzrrrr

  • @nelsonbrum8496
    @nelsonbrum8496 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait? Everytown has a gunsmith?

  • @Ares12893
    @Ares12893 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What can is that?

  • @Ant1CH0RRO
    @Ant1CH0RRO หลายเดือนก่อน

    man everybody can make guns, but to make a reliable a durable work it takes knowledge, i saw poor guys learning from father gunsmiths on philipinas with almost none machinery, with steel they got from sinked boats, i mean you have to practice and knowsomthing but at least for me its almost imposible for me to get an ak47 with its my dream, but i live in argentina.. but im going to start with an slam 12 gauge pipe shotgun, and see how it goes, my next step after that i guess it will be an 3d hybrid 19genglockie, i also would love to know and make explosives 3d grenades, and mortar projectiles.

  • @valentinian100
    @valentinian100 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So is the correct term here "Armorer":?

    • @jungletek
      @jungletek หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Gat Molester"