I changed falling sword to judgement too, kronos here. Basically the same build I’m using now, I sustain 5M with it. I haven’t considered the Misery Elixir gem to prolong the DOTs, interesting. Figured just using Berserker’s Eye is a better choice. Lingering Wounds being active with the burst phase is a good catch too. Glad I watched this video
@auroth have you tried to build a familiar using meld to get the 6 best legendary skills say for PVE or PvP, then use the exchange attributes feature, like having your bird with the six best PVE skills benefit from the 200 agility and insight? I’m thinking that six guaranteed useful skills is better than one skill at maximum ability.
so the only question I have about this build is the 2 piece angmets set increases duration of burns by 30%, but with Torrential Refrain essence causing continual damage effects to trigger immediately wouldn't that counter the value of the 2 piece angmets? The same thing would apply to the misery elixir. Seems like a 2 piece banquet with berserkers eye would yield a lot more damage.
Lets say that u have a dot that has 10 ticks of damage. When u use torrential refrain u will deal 10 ticks of damage at once. If you are able to increase the duration by 100% you will resolve 20 ticks of damage instead
Love your channel!! On this crusader build beneficial effects duration helps with judgement but not condemn or holy banner. ON a previous build of mine (not a great one) condemn was affected with a different essence (more damage when enemy was below 50%) but not this essence. Holy banner has never been affected based on my meager testing. The only to extent that was through an essence extending it by 39%. Have you noticed otherwise? In addition I can not seem to get the 4 piece Vithru's to proc. Is it still bugged?
Thanks a lot! 🙏 You are correct about the banner and beneficial effect duration. The thumb rule is that every skill with a green duration var will be prolonged while other skills wont. There might be exceptions to this. Great input and have a great day! 🔥 Edit: Vithu works for me 🤷
How do you get your pet to attack the dummy? Mine just stands around looking confused. Switched defensive and aggressive stance. Nothing. Switched pet types. Nothing. Can’t figure out how to get the pet to attack the dummy.
You don't specifically mention it, unless I totally missed it somewhere, but what Paragon tree are you using? Assuming Weaver for max dps, but thought to ask.
@Auroth great videos and breakdown, I was wondering if you did a test of utilising more DOT gems instead of for example Echoing Shade to try and maximise the amount of DOTs to be applied and then instantly resolved? I am not sure about Venom but Sleeping Bile is applied by summons. Also in your experience to maximise DPS should one focus on builds like this one (apply and resolve DOTs) or rather just straight DMG increases like from Berserker Eye, Fervent, The 2 star that does explosions on Crits etc) I hope you get my point. Keep up the good work Cheers!
Echoing shade is one of the most important gems in this setup since the clones will apply fire banner dots. Most legendary gem dots has a 20 sec cooldown which is not good enough 🤷 They do work fine for dungeons to one shot bosses though. If u cant one shot with them its better to go for other gems 🙏 Edit: I recommend you to watch my DPS guide that will give great insights on what to focus on for DPS 🙏
In your opinion what provides more DPS? Using the new judgement shoulders to increase our dps OR using the extended banner shoulders to increase the groups dps? Since it provides an additional 4-5 seconds of fire banner
It depends on the content. Personally I am leaning towards folly of Zakarum 🙏 It also depends on what the team looks like. If you are the strongest on your team I would maybe more often pick the new shoulder 🙏
@@Auroth_DI Thank you! Yeah I can see how that would make sense. I’ve become so accustomed to running Folly of Zakarum and only having a 3 second down time on banner that running anything else feels awkward 😅
There might be room for it but I have it too low rank atm. If attack speed is lower than the dmg increase I get from legendary gems it will increase my dmg if I make the switch. If it’s the other way around I will reduce it 🙏 Please let me know if you need clarification 😊
This is a great build. Been rocking it for a couple weeks now. Saw another video on it, but your breakdown on it is way better. You mentioned another video about dungeon build for Sader, but I didn’t see it in your list. Can you send me link please? Also - what paragon / warband are you using with this build? I’m not sure I am using correct paragon.
@@Auroth_DI Awesome! Thank you for the info. I’ll take a look at it and see. Right now giving Tempest a run. When I flip back Sader I’ll definitely be checking it out. I swap classes often. Still trying to find the one for me. lol
Thanks for such a guide! I’m a f2p with about 2.3k reso. Thinking of swapping out phoenix ashes for either gloom cask or misery elixir. Which would you think would be more worth it? If I scrap my phoenix, should be able to get gloom cask to rank 3 pretty quickly
Cask is a good gem but I would invest in 2 star gems. Berserkers eye rk 10 Fervent fang rk 6 -> 10 Pain clasp rk6 -> 10 Lament rk6 -> 10 Bsj rk4 Roiling rk4 Gloom or Hope rk3-4 Echoing rk3
@@Auroth_DI sorry I misspoke. I meant echoing shade instead of cask. Should I prioritise shade over a 2 star say pain clasp? For context, I have: Torment - rank 10 Battleguard - 8 P&C - 8 Lament - 8 BSJ - 5 Frozen heart - 4 Ashes - 4 Hope - 4
Sacred fire applies a burn thanks to horn splitter. Roiling consequence also applies a burn. Lastly all the fire banner dots are ofc also burns. The text on angmet is weird but ignite status means burn effects 🙏
Quality content as always😮 btw man correct me if im wrong but i think judgement works on bosses now aswell cuz i see the jusgement cross over bosses head. Not sure tho😮
Hey, man! I loved your build, but I didn't get the name of one of the gems: it's mother's lament and another one starting with pain that I didn't get it. New follower here and I'm loving your videos!
I will go back to monk again and I am excited to try the new essences for sure but first I will release a batch of blood knight videos and Tempest is also coming out soon 🙏
Hmm.. Im going to need to see if it's worth it to switch to sacred fire and lose the 10% charm bonus I have with it. It's looking like a yes for this build. Thanks for the info!
If you have a 10% roll on your charm don‘t ever change that roll. Kerp it and reroll other stat or make a new charm… For this build sacred fire is a must. But you never know what the next patch will do…
Ahh yes, as Auroth said, I meant changing out the punish skill for sacred fire. It's a hit to lose that 10%, but there's just not enough balance with punish essences to make up for it. Observer maybe, but not a strong second.
Same essences and set pieces, i can sustain only 1.2m/ sec damage. My resonance is 2.3k 1 slot awakened. My legendary gems are rank 10 berserker eye, rank 4 echoing shade, rank 5 bsj, rank 4 gloom cask, rank 4 bottled hope, rank 4 Starfire shard, rank 8 mothers lament and rank 8 pain clasp. I am not sure why my fire banner is only contributing 5% of my damage over a minute
@@sudheerhegde7219 please watch this video: F2P/Low Reso - How to carry Gauntlet 6 and deal more DMG than an average 8k+ whale (Diablo Immortal) th-cam.com/video/4amWeqWn5Gk/w-d-xo.html I also recommend you to watch my DPS guide. Resonance is not what matters 🙏
@@Auroth_DI Yes I am missing one essence. Torrential refrain. I am using gates of hell shield essence. But I don't think it would make much difference
Mother’s lament or pain clasp. I would not rank them one by one to 10 though I would evenly rank up all the 2 star gems u need (most efficient way to gain power)
No matter what I do i cant beat 14.3m dps (5 sec run) My friend has better reforges though and he manages 13m dps (10 sec run) Edit: So im sure he beats 15m by a margin on 5 sec since I only manage 10.2m dps ober 10 sec with bk
Auroth start doing high dps builds for F2P low resonance players and I'm talking in the range of 1k-1.5k reso and 2k sec stats. It would really help specially if are relatively new to the game and have 2 star gems at rank 5 O 6 and 5tars at rank 2 O 3
I have done videos like this. Please watch my f2p guide and the legendary gem section. I also recommend my DPS guide. Finally this video is also very useful: F2P/Low Reso - How to carry Gauntlet 6 and deal more DMG than an average 8k+ whale (Diablo Immortal) th-cam.com/video/4amWeqWn5Gk/w-d-xo.html
Okay figured it out, i have 3.4k reso and get about 1.5mil dmg per second. I got all the Essences and Set items, the gems are different, echo, void, sleeping bile, phonix, rolling, howlers call and forgot the other two but the damage is extremely Low. I quess its due the wrong gems
What is your point? With this build I deal 2.3m dps with 0 resonance which is a great indicator how well your core build is. I recommend you to try the same and then also watch this video: Diablo Immortal - The ultimate guide to increase your DPS with any class or build of any resonance th-cam.com/video/PplBf3Fl85I/w-d-xo.html
Thanks
Wow! The first ever super thanks I received 😍
Thank you so much! 🙏
@@Auroth_DI Well us Paladins are a dying breed, only few of us remain. You, Rigers and only a few others help the crusade marching on :)
@@FatalJusticeofWrath We shall keep the torch lit for as long as we can 🫡
I love all your videos and really touch music at the end
Old video, just wanted to drop that Yawning Rose is a higher burst and sustained DPS essence for shoulders. Everything else can stay the same
Nice tip buddy 🙏
I will make some new crusader vids when there are some bigger changes
I changed falling sword to judgement too, kronos here. Basically the same build I’m using now, I sustain 5M with it. I haven’t considered the Misery Elixir gem to prolong the DOTs, interesting. Figured just using Berserker’s Eye is a better choice.
Lingering Wounds being active with the burst phase is a good catch too. Glad I watched this video
Berserkers eye is also a solid choice bur flr me misery elixir works best of the two 😃
amazing build, it doubled my previous dps :)) thank you.
Im glad it works nice for you! 🔥
Mate, you are awesome
Thanks buddy! For an update please check my latest video that just got released 😍
Really amazing video and outro bro 😀
Thanks a lot buddy! 🔥
Best dps testing channel man.. keep it up! :) tweak a Barb next time will ya? ;)
Godly DPS!!! I'll tweak some more and test again. Wished I haven't scrapped my 4/5* echoing.
Thanks buddy. I recommend getting a rk3 2/5 at least (not a big difference compared to a 5/5 rk6)
Best build videos out. So much detail. Looking at this as class change for g6 push.
Thank you so much! 😍🔥
@auroth have you tried to build a familiar using meld to get the 6 best legendary skills say for PVE or PvP, then use the exchange attributes feature, like having your bird with the six best PVE skills benefit from the 200 agility and insight? I’m thinking that six guaranteed useful skills is better than one skill at maximum ability.
so the only question I have about this build is the 2 piece angmets set increases duration of burns by 30%, but with Torrential Refrain essence causing continual damage effects to trigger immediately wouldn't that counter the value of the 2 piece angmets? The same thing would apply to the misery elixir. Seems like a 2 piece banquet with berserkers eye would yield a lot more damage.
Lets say that u have a dot that has 10 ticks of damage. When u use torrential refrain u will deal 10 ticks of damage at once. If you are able to increase the duration by 100% you will resolve 20 ticks of damage instead
@@Auroth_DI ahhhh I see thank you sir!! Excellent video as always!
Love your channel!! On this crusader build beneficial effects duration helps with judgement but not condemn or holy banner. ON a previous build of mine (not a great one) condemn was affected with a different essence (more damage when enemy was below 50%) but not this essence. Holy banner has never been affected based on my meager testing. The only to extent that was through an essence extending it by 39%. Have you noticed otherwise?
In addition I can not seem to get the 4 piece Vithru's to proc. Is it still bugged?
Thanks a lot! 🙏
You are correct about the banner and beneficial effect duration. The thumb rule is that every skill with a green duration var will be prolonged while other skills wont. There might be exceptions to this.
Great input and have a great day! 🔥
Edit: Vithu works for me 🤷
are u a diablo partner? cuz u explain better then any of them,!!! i really like this type of videos. keep it up. subed :)
Wow thanks buddy and welcome to the tribe!
I am not a partner but maybe in the future if I am lucky! 😃
How do you get your pet to attack the dummy? Mine just stands around looking confused. Switched defensive and aggressive stance. Nothing. Switched pet types. Nothing. Can’t figure out how to get the pet to attack the dummy.
Leave the game while inside the dummy area and then rejoin 😊
You don't specifically mention it, unless I totally missed it somewhere, but what Paragon tree are you using? Assuming Weaver for max dps, but thought to ask.
I forgot to mention it. You are correct that I am using weaver.
For dungeons I use warden for movement speed 🙏
Ty bro, it`s amazing, like always
Thank you for watching!
Wait... torrential refrain resolves dots, does that mean the dot can be added again right away? Even if it says "over 3 seconds" or something?
Yes exactly :)
@@Auroth_DIthere are some pretty strong DOTs. Seeping, etc. if this triggers for any DOT (not just yours), this skill is insane
@Auroth great videos and breakdown,
I was wondering if you did a test of utilising more DOT gems instead of for example Echoing Shade to try and maximise the amount of DOTs to be applied and then instantly resolved?
I am not sure about Venom but Sleeping Bile is applied by summons.
Also in your experience to maximise DPS should one focus on builds like this one (apply and resolve DOTs) or rather just straight DMG increases like from Berserker Eye, Fervent, The 2 star that does explosions on Crits etc)
I hope you get my point.
Keep up the good work
Cheers!
Echoing shade is one of the most important gems in this setup since the clones will apply fire banner dots.
Most legendary gem dots has a 20 sec cooldown which is not good enough 🤷
They do work fine for dungeons to one shot bosses though. If u cant one shot with them its better to go for other gems 🙏
Edit: I recommend you to watch my DPS guide that will give great insights on what to focus on for DPS 🙏
love ur build vids. do u think u will make some wiz content too?
I will in the future for sure but first I will do some blood knight and tempest 🙏
In your opinion what provides more DPS? Using the new judgement shoulders to increase our dps OR using the extended banner shoulders to increase the groups dps? Since it provides an additional 4-5 seconds of fire banner
It depends on the content. Personally I am leaning towards folly of Zakarum 🙏
It also depends on what the team looks like. If you are the strongest on your team I would maybe more often pick the new shoulder 🙏
@@Auroth_DI Thank you! Yeah I can see how that would make sense. I’ve become so accustomed to running Folly of Zakarum and only having a 3 second down time on banner that running anything else feels awkward 😅
interesting, i tried without the 1* misery gem and swapped with venom 2*, misery 1* produced more damage than the venom gem on the dummy test
Yes Misery Elixir will give you more dps compared to Viper’s Bite 😊
Out of curiosity why not use the 2 star grim from the battle pass? Feel like it would be great??
There might be room for it but I have it too low rank atm.
If attack speed is lower than the dmg increase I get from legendary gems it will increase my dmg if I make the switch. If it’s the other way around I will reduce it 🙏
Please let me know if you need clarification 😊
very useful well done
This is a great build. Been rocking it for a couple weeks now. Saw another video on it, but your breakdown on it is way better.
You mentioned another video about dungeon build for Sader, but I didn’t see it in your list. Can you send me link please?
Also - what paragon / warband are you using with this build? I’m not sure I am using correct paragon.
I cant post link here :/ Look at sader video from before this one in my video list.
I use 4x brawler mostly for extra speed + wb protector room :)
@@Auroth_DI Awesome! Thank you for the info. I’ll take a look at it and see. Right now giving Tempest a run. When I flip back Sader I’ll definitely be checking it out. I swap classes often. Still trying to find the one for me. lol
@@Auroth_DI youre a real one for answering this was hoping id find the paragon you used gg
Gg brotha!
Thank u buddy!
My question is would 4 piece vithu, 2 angmets, 2 baron work better than 4 vithu 4 angmets?
Both options are great :)
good build and analyses!:) btw can u tell me why most people use feasting baron's pack set instead of banquet of eyes for this build?
Because it increases the dmg done from all the dots when you use torrential refrain 😊
@@Auroth_DI ooooh i see! tysm
Which of the gems provide lowest value? I want to get my 5/5 r6 gloom cask in here and have hard time deciding.
Hard to say. Probably misery elixir 🤷
Im not sure though without testing
Thanks for such a guide! I’m a f2p with about 2.3k reso. Thinking of swapping out phoenix ashes for either gloom cask or misery elixir. Which would you think would be more worth it? If I scrap my phoenix, should be able to get gloom cask to rank 3 pretty quickly
Cask is a good gem but I would invest in 2 star gems.
Berserkers eye rk 10
Fervent fang rk 6 -> 10
Pain clasp rk6 -> 10
Lament rk6 -> 10
Bsj rk4
Roiling rk4
Gloom or Hope rk3-4
Echoing rk3
@@Auroth_DI sorry I misspoke. I meant echoing shade instead of cask. Should I prioritise shade over a 2 star say pain clasp?
For context, I have:
Torment - rank 10
Battleguard - 8
P&C - 8
Lament - 8
BSJ - 5
Frozen heart - 4
Ashes - 4
Hope - 4
2 pieces agmet work? dont need 4?
does the ignite come from the sacred fire attack or where?
Sacred fire applies a burn thanks to horn splitter. Roiling consequence also applies a burn. Lastly all the fire banner dots are ofc also burns.
The text on angmet is weird but ignite status means burn effects 🙏
@@Auroth_DI im no have consequênce:/ dont works?
Im usina bile and vibora for damage overtime
Yeeeees brooo finally crusader. I love you😅
❤️🔥😍
this build works without consequence gem and 4 pieces agmet for more burn?
Yes it also works great :)
Quality content as always😮 btw man correct me if im wrong but i think judgement works on bosses now aswell cuz i see the jusgement cross over bosses head. Not sure tho😮
Yes it works on bosses (except for the slow effect)
Hey, man! I loved your build, but I didn't get the name of one of the gems: it's mother's lament and another one starting with pain that I didn't get it. New follower here and I'm loving your videos!
Welcome to the tribe! ❤️
Pain Clasp is the gem 🙏
@@Auroth_DI thanks! Class is working amazing here. A few gems missing, but it's already something. Looking forward for the next videos!
Nice buddy! 😍
Do you have any good OW farm build for sader?
Check this one out 😎
Diablo Immortal - "UBER" amazing crusader skeleton build (How to equip a friend!)
th-cam.com/video/lnIKv6cZ7bk/w-d-xo.html
very good video thanks
Very good viewer ;) Thank you!
After DH n Crus, can you make the best DPS build for Monk?
I will go back to monk again and I am excited to try the new essences for sure but first I will release a batch of blood knight videos and Tempest is also coming out soon 🙏
So 4x piece vithu ,2 piece angmet and 2 piece baron is better then 4x vithu and 4x angmet?
It can probably be different for everyone depending on harmful duration break points :)
Hmm.. Im going to need to see if it's worth it to switch to sacred fire and lose the 10% charm bonus I have with it. It's looking like a yes for this build. Thanks for the info!
If you are talking about using sacred fire instead of punish it is a very wise decision after the release of the new essences 🙏
If you have a 10% roll on your charm don‘t ever change that roll. Kerp it and reroll other stat or make a new charm… For this build sacred fire is a must. But you never know what the next patch will do…
Ahh yes, as Auroth said, I meant changing out the punish skill for sacred fire. It's a hit to lose that 10%, but there's just not enough balance with punish essences to make up for it. Observer maybe, but not a strong second.
How does this build do in BG, VoB, RoE, etc...
I would not recommend it 🙏 maybe fit could work for super fast kills of towers in vob (haven’t tried it)
First question: the shoulder works also with boss? Second question: Do you will try the new class that is coming in the game? Thanks for your video!
Yes it works on boss! 😃
And yes I will switch to Tempest 😍
Same essences and set pieces, i can sustain only 1.2m/ sec damage. My resonance is 2.3k 1 slot awakened. My legendary gems are rank 10 berserker eye, rank 4 echoing shade, rank 5 bsj, rank 4 gloom cask, rank 4 bottled hope, rank 4 Starfire shard, rank 8 mothers lament and rank 8 pain clasp. I am not sure why my fire banner is only contributing 5% of my damage over a minute
You have probably not changed all the necessary essences 🙏
@@Auroth_DI I think resonance matters here. How your auto attacks hit for 7m/sec damage. Mine only does 600k to 700k damage per second
@@sudheerhegde7219 please watch this video:
F2P/Low Reso - How to carry Gauntlet 6 and deal more DMG than an average 8k+ whale (Diablo Immortal)
th-cam.com/video/4amWeqWn5Gk/w-d-xo.html
I also recommend you to watch my DPS guide. Resonance is not what matters 🙏
@@Auroth_DI Yes I am missing one essence. Torrential refrain. I am using gates of hell shield essence. But I don't think it would make much difference
@@sudheerhegde7219 This whole build requires torrential refrain 🙏
If I need to level up a 2 star gem to rank10 what gem should I focus first?
Mother’s lament or pain clasp. I would not rank them one by one to 10 though I would evenly rank up all the 2 star gems u need (most efficient way to gain power)
@@Auroth_DI Thanks for this. Just watched some youtubers maximing the rank10 PC/ML effects then the 1 and 2 stars at rank1-3 only.
Auroth what paragon U use⁉️
Weaver for dps :)
@@Auroth_DI thx mate this build just destroyed everything... keep going with sader I am excited whats next
Bro, what is that cosmetic / transmog?! Looks amazing
Its the normal tier 3 skin (the one in the dummy run itself is the previous bp skin with the sacred wilds weapon)
Can s1 told about ascension? What he use
I dont understand 🙏
@@Auroth_DI Sorry, i mean skills in Paragon) which one u use in this build
@@mr_gooodi Now I would use 2x duelist 3x warden
@@Auroth_DI ok, ty. But can you say which one in duelist and warden) sry for this question, i am newbie
How about paragon?
A mix of weaver and duelist
Blood knight community needs your help. 24m DPS on a crusader? I challenge you to hit 15m on a BK before you switch to Tempest for weeks/months.
No matter what I do i cant beat 14.3m dps (5 sec run)
My friend has better reforges though and he manages 13m dps (10 sec run)
Edit: So im sure he beats 15m by a margin on 5 sec since I only manage 10.2m dps ober 10 sec with bk
@@Auroth_DI Is video of that build comming soon?
This weekend probably :)
@@Auroth_DI Cool thank you.
can we get a paragon update for this bro
Yes. I am moving to a new apartment this week. After that I will be able to upload more videos again :)
The outro music is too much :D. But definitely got subbed.
Welcome to the tribe! 😎
What paragon?
For most content I use brawler for size 🙏
@@Auroth_DI I think you must use Slinger for this build? Right?
@@Stridër-m1r yes for dps i go for old weaver effects ☺️
Without echo shade 1st place highest dps is bk from what I can manage
Try this build:
Demon Hunter is now insane! 24m solo dps and 20m+ crits! (Builds, breakdown and gameplay)
th-cam.com/video/rR_Qj-i-89I/w-d-xo.html
I run this same build and most I can do is 130 mil in a min but I'm at 3.1k res
You should watch my ultimate dps guide. Your dmg is a lot lower due to your core build (0 resonance build) not being in order 🙏
@@Auroth_DI the one from 7 months ago?
@@NornRS yes. It explains how dmg works. If u watch it and listen carefully it might change your whole perspective of the game 🙏
@@Auroth_DI ok cool I'll check it out
This build really good but i went from 2.6k reso to 1.6k i became a glass cannon 😂
Barbarian pls ..por favor
I will def go barb in the fitire as well but first blood knight and some tempest 🙏
Auroth start doing high dps builds for F2P low resonance players and I'm talking in the range of 1k-1.5k reso and 2k sec stats. It would really help specially if are relatively new to the game and have 2 star gems at rank 5 O 6 and 5tars at rank 2 O 3
I have done videos like this.
Please watch my f2p guide and the legendary gem section.
I also recommend my DPS guide.
Finally this video is also very useful:
F2P/Low Reso - How to carry Gauntlet 6 and deal more DMG than an average 8k+ whale (Diablo Immortal)
th-cam.com/video/4amWeqWn5Gk/w-d-xo.html
Not getting dots at all
What u mean?
Okay figured it out, i have 3.4k reso and get about 1.5mil dmg per second. I got all the Essences and Set items, the gems are different, echo, void, sleeping bile, phonix, rolling, howlers call and forgot the other two but the damage is extremely Low. I quess its due the wrong gems
Its hard to say but every detail matters. Add aurothkuro on discord and send me a screenshot of your build and I can take a look at it for ya 🙏
@@Auroth_DIadded you to figure build issues out.
woot
2pc vithus 2pc baron 4pc angmets works better for me
It might work better for sum depending on their core build. For me it is slightly worse.
remove all gems and do it again...
What is your point?
With this build I deal 2.3m dps with 0 resonance which is a great indicator how well your core build is.
I recommend you to try the same and then also watch this video:
Diablo Immortal - The ultimate guide to increase your DPS with any class or build of any resonance
th-cam.com/video/PplBf3Fl85I/w-d-xo.html
@@Auroth_DI my< point is.. remove them and do it again
@@Veganimarm Read my full reply for 0 resonance result 🙏
As a second reference point I deal 11.5m dps if I remove BSJ and bottled hope (a reso of ca 2k)
Resonance is not important though. 😊
Remove them and do it again... or do you have a reference for the channel without gems? No.. .my source is: "trust me bro".