Whenever I try explaining multiverses to people. I use a bag of marbles analogy. Every marble is one universe. The bag they're contained in is the multiverse. A parallel multiverse is another bag with marbles in it, right beside the first bag.
The Hive I don't mind. There's the universe, the multiverse... And the multiverse beside our multiverse is a "xenoverse" and the overall world that contains all multiverses is the "omniverse".
The Monitor existed, actually, within the DC universe for a few years, appearing randomly in every single book in the DCU, much like Pandora would do with the incoming Nu52. Also, the infant Alexander Luthor came FROM Earth 3, home of the Crime Syndicate. He was sent to Earth One.
It’s kinda surprising how much the CW event managed to keep from the source material instead of doing its own vaguely-similar event and keeping the name.
Redem10 we’ll call it DC: Frank Miller’s Mid-Life Crisis. It’ll retcon all the crazy shit he wrote like All-Star Batman & Robin and The Dark Knight Strikes Again, restoring the status quo of Frank Miller being a mentally-sound writer
CURSE MY HUBRIS! I thought that I had gotten so entwined with the workings of this channel that I could get into Sal's head. I had thought that he would do this for the 100th Special! WHAT A FOOL I WAS! Sal is cleverer than I could have ever imagined! Someone had better tune me up good, for I am a mere fiddle to be played. *CURSES!*
10:49 Sal reveals the truth of Crisis on Infinite Earths. And he couldn't be more right. This book is a must read to understand the history of DC Comics, but damn.
Funny you should say that considering how Sal and Rob are good friends. They're two completely different types of channels about the same type of content. Instead of making comparisons, why not just enjoy them both.
A really nice and really thorough rundown. Not 100% accurate (for instance, Barry Allen WAS in the 30th century because his wife was born there) but funny, so worth a watch. I'll add this though: A lot of the meandering nature of the plot was because they literally changed the plan for how it would end from month to month and Wolfman had to juggle multiple editors telling him what he could or couldn't do. Flash and Supergirl dying was planned. It wasn't necessarily as planned what characters would remember what. Superman in particular had a bunch of reboot pitches. Walt Simonson pitched the reveal that none of the Kryptonians we'd seen (except Superman) were necessarily Kryptonian and play with a mystery of whether there were fake Kryptonians. Chris Claremont wanted the Earth-2 Superman to survive, reveal he'd been faking being old after the Earth-1 Superman dies, and then just wash off his hair and make up and go move to the remaining Metropolis. Elliot Maggin (and Roy Thomas and, actually, Alan Moore) just wanted things to continue on with people remembering everything that had happened. Maggin created Superboy-Prime so there'd be a "young counterpart" to Superman that they could replace the dead Supergirl with. Wolfman wanted to erase everything, rename the company "Superman Comics", and start from zero. And he wanted to make The Flash a woman with light powers. Editors bickered because writers were flinging different pitches different ways. It didn't help that some of the most successful comic shop books at the time were Teen Titans (about sidekicks), All-Star Squadron (about Earth-2's wartime heroes), and Legion of Super-Heroes were all continuity heavy. (Which is like Flashpoint where Batman and Green Lantern were the most successful and most continuity heavy books.) And Alan Moore was interested in continuity heavy stuff, as were the other British creators they started hiring like Grant Morrison (who was starting to do backups for UK annuals) and Neil Gaiman (who made some pretty obscure references in Sandman). (Neil and Grant both did very sad references to Crisis.) So, anyway, John Byrne's Superman pitch won out and they started taking pitches for stuff after Crisis, which messed things up because it meant there was about 5 years of slow resets rather than a clean break. Hawkworld wasn't even meant to be a reboot except the editor removed a caption that made sense of it. They decided to let Frank Miller revamp whatever he wanted but people kept referencing contradictory stuff. Really, Batman's continuity made the least sense but the stories were badass and his fans didn't notice or care about most of the contradictions aside from hating the changes made in Zero Hour. Until Grant Morrison came along and said, "Everything happened" just in time for Flashpoint. But he wasn't done so that became, "Everything happened but it looked like the Arkham video games when it was happening. Also, the Robin timeline makes no sense and Scott Snyder is basically going to reference the most obscure stuff while contradicting it at the same time." And nobody cared because it looked cool. Which is probably a giant argument for why rebooting accomplishes very little. Batman has been reboot proof and they just sort of redesign him and retell good stories with no real commitment. Meanwhile, Superman, who has had around 7 mini-reboots in the last 12 years, has floundered because everybody is hellbent on trying to exclude things they don't like from his continuity. Which is really my biggest beef with reboots: they're always about what DIDN'T happen more than they are about things happening. You inevitably get 20-30 comics with Spider-man or Superman making comments like, "I'm NOT married and never have been." And then they date somebody else and it just becomes a serpent eating its own tail whereas an actual break-up or divorce would have probably been a more mature story direction.
My favorite part of this story is how Psycho Pirate is the only characters that remembers the infinite earth continuity and ends up in an asylum... I felt so bad! Lmao!
+Kye Brooks give it time. Other people will realize the quality content and entertainment Sal and the gang bring to the channel. I'm sure I'm not the only one..
+Monty Hedstrom i like the way you think, to me the channel has set its self apart from others by actually being funny, and interactive. love the whole teams efforts :)
This happened smack dab in the middle of my comic collecting childhood. You bring up some interesting points about the larger industry structure, though at the time, kids on the street perceived as an ongoing beef between DC and Marvel who'd released Secret Wars a few months to a year previous...those were the days...great vid!
its like, Sal talks about the writers as if they love keeping secrets from each other and the readers simultaneously, but they're all lame secrets! lol
+ComicPOP! hey sal, i'd love some more batman. probably a common request, but how about dark victory in particular? ive seen a lot of comments about it on the Long Halloween Video, please do it.
+ComicPOP! if you guys wanna get technical with the crisis-es there are 24 i really enjoy these episodes because crisis-es are batshit insane en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_(DC_Comics)
Grant Morrison peeks out from around the corner: "That's a nice Crisis you have there. Mind if I add some convoluted yet heavy-handed metatextual analysis to it?"
No matter how many Kryptonians exist, Clark will always be the last son of Krypton as he was the last to be born on-from (depending in continuity) Krypton
The reason why Barry isn’t moving is because when you blink into a different time, the time you came from stops moving while you are in that other time
The backstory to Barry Allen Flash reading Jay Garrick as a comic book seems incredibly similar to Valiant's Solar Man Of The Atom and I would not be surprised if it was in some small part as inspiration
This (along with Kingdom Come) was one of the few comics the library had when I was in middle school so I read both of them like once a month and had next to 0 context going into it, yet are both such fun and gorgeous stories and artwork that they remain among my favorites even after a decade of avid comic consumption
sooo, i was sittin here relaxing and watching another hilarious episode of back issues, ( this one happens to be one of my favorites) and i just happened to have my leapord gecko, Apollo, roaming around on my bed for his nightly excersise, when suddenly, he gets this hunters look in his eyes, and starts scurrying towards my phone, where i happen to be watching this video, at first i was really confused....but then i looked closer and realized that he was focused on Sal, Ben, and Ethan's hands that constantly move as they talk!!!😆 he tried biting my screen twice before just stopping and watching you guys with look of extreme confusion for the next 2 minutes!!😂 so i just wanted to thank you guys for always entertaining me.....and my little gecko too😁
Dr. Light was created in this comic, really like her though. Have you seen last episode of the flash? His costume was destroyed in the episode before, but when he comes back from the speed force he still have his costume on! So the way I see it is that the speed force made a completely identical looking costume so he wouldn't be naked when he came out of the speed force.
Great to finally see Crisis on Infinite Earths! NIce to see Sal mention Tower of Babel, and then makes sure to say that the book is badass! Hopefully we see it on Back Issues soon! Great video guys!
I wanna say that I wasted my entire week watching all of these videos, but it really hasn't felt like a waste at all, what an entertaining show! Thanks guys!
man...as a child of the seventies and eighties this was HUUUUUUGE! so many characters that I had rarely seen, was awesome. supergirl and barry dying was big because they didn't kill off characters permanently, at that time. so much crazy shit went on, it was insane. it was like seeing old buddies for the last time.I know it didn't have the same effect on you and that's cool. this was towards the end of my initial comicbook collecting. I would like to say thank you though..because of this channel, it did rekindle interest. I am trying to get my nephew interested in comics now. please keep kickin ass! ...now if I can get you to do the DEFENDERS(new or otherwise) without takin a crap on it I would be stoked...mahalo and aloha!
The one way I could see DC try and explain The Flash "disintegration" is something silly like as he faded into the speed force, the "layers of light escaped our gaze, almost as if Barry was disintegrating before our eyes" Can't explain the costume though haha
Hi Sal, Ethan & Ben - firstly congratulations on your 90th Episode, and you have to do Final Crisis for your 100th Episode, just to see Ethan & Ben trying to get their heads around it, to then totally rip it apart and get even more mad at Grant Morrison, and don't for to do The Korvac Saga (1991 tpb) you know you want to do it Sal! - it will be hilarious on a galactic level !! Mr. Mistry
Rewatching this episode and hearing Ethan talking about how merging Earth-2 Superman with the other Superman would be like he died and I have to lmao. A year before Rebirth even started! Maybe he should’ve kept his mouth shut 😭
As a narrative reason for the simplification of a continuity as complicated and storied as DC's in 1985, this story is rather brilliant. Sure, there are plenty of comic book contrivances and conveniences, but it wholly owns the central driving engine behind its plot as the fascinating and incredibly dense narrative that it is.
I read the first 2 issues and I couldn't get into it, the crisises are such a nerve wreck but it's full of a lot of and I mean a LOT of tragedy, but they are really good stories to read
maybe the reason why Barry doesn't look like he is running is because of a speed mirage, like the one Eobard Thawne/Harrison Wells talks about in season 1 of the flash
Ten episodes later... Oh boy, Comic Pop released another episode. I wonder which Crisis they're gonna go over now? * looks at the title screen and sees "Countdown to Final Crisis" *-Noooooo!
Sal, if you want to have some real fun; read Marv Wolfman's revamped novel of Crisis. It focuses on the Flash and really confuses the whole story...but it is fun.
Now that they've done Elseworlds on the CW shows and Crisis around the corner, watching this show along with Rob's and Benny's channels are seriously helping me catch up and make sense of all the craziness. In fact, ComicPOP motivated me to purchase a DC comic (only ever bought Marvel) for the first time ever.
Hi Guys I am slowly catching up with all the videos. I did have an answer for Ethan regarding the Flash's phasing in and out in existence. while he was racing against the tachyon cannon there was twice during the storyline where Barry slows his vibrations down long enough to talk to Batman and Superman so in between laps running the opposite direction against tachyon cannon he stops essentially for a few laps to try to explain to them both before speeding back up to try to blow the tachyon cannon up. Also the Anti Monitor had sent Psycho Pirate to kidnap Barry from the future and hold him since he was the only one who Anti Monitor sensed might be a danger to the cannon, he was also at the time the only hero at the time to resist the power Psycho Pirate's Mask effects to get up to the cannon. I know you did JLA AVENGERS Psycho Pirates Mask was one of the items Grand Master has the heroes try to collect. I love you guys. When Ben is talking he reminds me of Jason Lee and Sal you kind of remind me of Brian O'hallaran LOL
+ComicPOP! I think for the one hundredth episode you should do something you have been talking about for a long time like Ulitmate Spider-Man, or something special like that and save the last two crises for another time.
In case y’all are wondering’ how the flash destroyed the antimoniters shit, it was the friction caused by his running. At least, that’s what I think it was.
Digging this concept. I would like to request a Swamp Thing recap like you did for Spawn. I never got into either but this show makes me interested in getting some old trades though...keep up the good work
First they told us we couldn't cross the streams. Then they told us we can't witness the birth of the universe. Next thing you know, the "man" will be telling us when we can go the bathroom!
Hey Sal! Love this series! I find this series hilarious. I don't really have a prefrence on Zero Hour or Final Crisis, but until then i have an idea for a Back Issues episode. I think you should break out a few Spider Man stories that pull at the heart strings like "The Kid Who Collects Spider Man", the quick Leah story in Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman Annual #1, and the Death of Jean DeWolf. Since these stories are all short on there own just combined them all in a "Tear Jerker" special! Thanks for all the wonderful comic laughs!
This is a funny take on how the story was received.. for me I was all about marvel, aside from Batman, green lantern, and flash (and DC cartoons mostly after the early 90s for me I can’t even remember great marvel shows I watched all the time, but honestly people still said stuff like “dc is for nerds and marvel is the cool kids”)... but like I didn’t read crisis on infinite earths until Civil War was close to wrapping up its original run. Civil war was fun.. but if we equate it to a meal civil war is those little scraps of meat you pick out of your teeth after a meal, and CoIE was this huge epic.
The sad thing is, Crisis was never necessary. They could do the Silver Age reboot all over again and simply introduce a new Earth where the heroes were just all starting, and still preserve the original Earths for the occasional crossover. This never confused anybody. The fact they kept reintroducing the multiverse proved it.
Do Final Crisis for the 100th episode, also Crisis on Infinite Earths was like your second World War Hulk, you teased that for awhile and then finally did it, you did the same with this said you were going to do it but didn't do it until now
Crisis is more enjoyable and entertaining looking back. Especially after reading how later comics use the monitor/anit-monitor, like Geoff Johns does. Great story, in my opinion.
Watching this in 2020 and hearing that all this multiverse shit happens because of a guy named Krona (which sounds weirdly similar to Corona) hits VERY different.
It was less about cleaning up continuity and more about finding a way to bring in all the properties DC had acquired over the years with one big retcon.
Pick up a copy of Crisis on Infinite Earths right here: amzn.to/1MBtcDb
Whenever I try explaining multiverses to people. I use a bag of marbles analogy. Every marble is one universe. The bag they're contained in is the multiverse. A parallel multiverse is another bag with marbles in it, right beside the first bag.
wow thats a surprisingly good analogy
Hope you don't mind if I use that to talk to people
The Hive I don't mind. There's the universe, the multiverse... And the multiverse beside our multiverse is a "xenoverse" and the overall world that contains all multiverses is the "omniverse".
Allen Babylon Wow perfect i will use this to explain to my sister
Allen Babylon I like this one you did great by explaining it that way
Anyone notice Tiffany in the title pic. Was she suppose to be in the episode? Did Crisis retcon this??
I.........am..........from.........a...........another............earth............I...........remember..............Tiffany...........been..........there.............
"...a problem every comic publisher runs into every 10 years."? Sal, Marvel has that problem every 6 months 😂.
The Monitor existed, actually, within the DC universe for a few years, appearing randomly in every single book in the DCU, much like Pandora would do with the incoming Nu52. Also, the infant Alexander Luthor came FROM Earth 3, home of the Crime Syndicate. He was sent to Earth One.
It’s kinda surprising how much the CW event managed to keep from the source material instead of doing its own vaguely-similar event and keeping the name.
Next DC crisis: Mid-life Crisis
Redem10 we’ll call it DC: Frank Miller’s Mid-Life Crisis. It’ll retcon all the crazy shit he wrote like All-Star Batman & Robin and The Dark Knight Strikes Again, restoring the status quo of Frank Miller being a mentally-sound writer
Spoiler alert it sucks
Identity crisis
the crisis after that: Financial Crisis
Isn't thar Dark Crisis?
CURSE MY HUBRIS! I thought that I had gotten so entwined with the workings of this channel that I could get into Sal's head. I had thought that he would do this for the 100th Special! WHAT A FOOL I WAS! Sal is cleverer than I could have ever imagined! Someone had better tune me up good, for I am a mere fiddle to be played. *CURSES!*
We all know he'll do final crisis for the 100th episode.
I always see you in the comments
This channel gives me the same feeling of when I saw Mallrats for the first time. So good.
Thanks Brandon!
Brandon Satterlee dude same
10:49 Sal reveals the truth of Crisis on Infinite Earths. And he couldn't be more right. This book is a must read to understand the history of DC Comics, but damn.
Really don't understand why this channel isn't as popular as Comicexplained. It's 1000X better
Explain yourself... because you're most likely wrong about that statement.
Funny you should say that considering how Sal and Rob are good friends. They're two completely different types of channels about the same type of content. Instead of making comparisons, why not just enjoy them both.
I didn't think it possible, but Sal actually successfully explained COIE! BRAVO!
A really nice and really thorough rundown. Not 100% accurate (for instance, Barry Allen WAS in the 30th century because his wife was born there) but funny, so worth a watch.
I'll add this though: A lot of the meandering nature of the plot was because they literally changed the plan for how it would end from month to month and Wolfman had to juggle multiple editors telling him what he could or couldn't do. Flash and Supergirl dying was planned. It wasn't necessarily as planned what characters would remember what.
Superman in particular had a bunch of reboot pitches.
Walt Simonson pitched the reveal that none of the Kryptonians we'd seen (except Superman) were necessarily Kryptonian and play with a mystery of whether there were fake Kryptonians.
Chris Claremont wanted the Earth-2 Superman to survive, reveal he'd been faking being old after the Earth-1 Superman dies, and then just wash off his hair and make up and go move to the remaining Metropolis.
Elliot Maggin (and Roy Thomas and, actually, Alan Moore) just wanted things to continue on with people remembering everything that had happened. Maggin created Superboy-Prime so there'd be a "young counterpart" to Superman that they could replace the dead Supergirl with.
Wolfman wanted to erase everything, rename the company "Superman Comics", and start from zero. And he wanted to make The Flash a woman with light powers.
Editors bickered because writers were flinging different pitches different ways. It didn't help that some of the most successful comic shop books at the time were Teen Titans (about sidekicks), All-Star Squadron (about Earth-2's wartime heroes), and Legion of Super-Heroes were all continuity heavy. (Which is like Flashpoint where Batman and Green Lantern were the most successful and most continuity heavy books.) And Alan Moore was interested in continuity heavy stuff, as were the other British creators they started hiring like Grant Morrison (who was starting to do backups for UK annuals) and Neil Gaiman (who made some pretty obscure references in Sandman). (Neil and Grant both did very sad references to Crisis.)
So, anyway, John Byrne's Superman pitch won out and they started taking pitches for stuff after Crisis, which messed things up because it meant there was about 5 years of slow resets rather than a clean break. Hawkworld wasn't even meant to be a reboot except the editor removed a caption that made sense of it. They decided to let Frank Miller revamp whatever he wanted but people kept referencing contradictory stuff. Really, Batman's continuity made the least sense but the stories were badass and his fans didn't notice or care about most of the contradictions aside from hating the changes made in Zero Hour. Until Grant Morrison came along and said, "Everything happened" just in time for Flashpoint. But he wasn't done so that became, "Everything happened but it looked like the Arkham video games when it was happening. Also, the Robin timeline makes no sense and Scott Snyder is basically going to reference the most obscure stuff while contradicting it at the same time." And nobody cared because it looked cool.
Which is probably a giant argument for why rebooting accomplishes very little. Batman has been reboot proof and they just sort of redesign him and retell good stories with no real commitment.
Meanwhile, Superman, who has had around 7 mini-reboots in the last 12 years, has floundered because everybody is hellbent on trying to exclude things they don't like from his continuity. Which is really my biggest beef with reboots: they're always about what DIDN'T happen more than they are about things happening. You inevitably get 20-30 comics with Spider-man or Superman making comments like, "I'm NOT married and never have been." And then they date somebody else and it just becomes a serpent eating its own tail whereas an actual break-up or divorce would have probably been a more mature story direction.
*Booster Gold* : "I have come from the future, and in the future, DC makes an animated movie version of Crisis on Infinite Earths."
My favorite part of this story is how Psycho Pirate is the only characters that remembers the infinite earth continuity and ends up in an asylum... I felt so bad! Lmao!
You guys better do Final Crisis for episode 100 or else I'll punch a hole in reality and force Earth 2 Sal to do it...don't think I won't.
I bought this series off the newstands when I was a kid back in the 80's. One of my favorites even 30+ years iater.
waiting for this channel to blow up, don't understand why it hasnt yet! keep up the awesome work guys!
Thank you, Kye!
+Kye Brooks give it time. Other people will realize the quality content and entertainment Sal and the gang bring to the channel. I'm sure I'm not the only one..
+Monty Hedstrom i like the way you think, to me the channel has set its self apart from others by actually being funny, and interactive. love the whole teams efforts :)
It's all about the attention span
This happened smack dab in the middle of my comic collecting childhood. You bring up some interesting points about the larger industry structure, though at the time, kids on the street perceived as an ongoing beef between DC and Marvel who'd released Secret Wars a few months to a year previous...those were the days...great vid!
There was also History of the DC Universe, which was a nice companion to Crisis.
its like, Sal talks about the writers as if they love keeping secrets from each other and the readers simultaneously, but they're all lame secrets! lol
"You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!"
Another classic Back Issues!
90 amazing episodes of back issues. Hope there will be 90 more guys!
+Cosmic Nerd Studios Hear hear! Thanks!
+ComicPOP! hey sal, i'd love some more batman. probably a common request, but how about dark victory in particular? ive seen a lot of comments about it on the Long Halloween Video, please do it.
+ComicPOP! if you guys wanna get technical with the crisis-es there are 24 i really enjoy these episodes because crisis-es are batshit insane en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_(DC_Comics)
Almost are. 5 episodes away!
Grant Morrison peeks out from around the corner: "That's a nice Crisis you have there. Mind if I add some convoluted yet heavy-handed metatextual analysis to it?"
No matter how many Kryptonians exist, Clark will always be the last son of Krypton as he was the last to be born on-from (depending in continuity) Krypton
The reason why Barry isn’t moving is because when you blink into a different time, the time you came from stops moving while you are in that other time
The backstory to Barry Allen Flash reading Jay Garrick as a comic book seems incredibly similar to Valiant's Solar Man Of The Atom and I would not be surprised if it was in some small part as inspiration
haha the fact Sal says god is a clock maker here is very amusing in light of recent comics
I am so gonna pick up Crisis On Infinite Earths.
Revisiting this classic just before the CW event
is it worth watching?
No
@@loreaver3882The Animated Trilogy yes
This (along with Kingdom Come) was one of the few comics the library had when I was in middle school so I read both of them like once a month and had next to 0 context going into it, yet are both such fun and gorgeous stories and artwork that they remain among my favorites even after a decade of avid comic consumption
I love George perez art it is soo detailed. Has anyone ever noticed that his facial structure for berry allen and wally west are totally different
sooo, i was sittin here relaxing and watching another hilarious episode of back issues, ( this one happens to be one of my favorites) and i just happened to have my leapord gecko, Apollo, roaming around on my bed for his nightly excersise, when suddenly, he gets this hunters look in his eyes, and starts scurrying towards my phone, where i happen to be watching this video, at first i was really confused....but then i looked closer and realized that he was focused on Sal, Ben, and Ethan's hands that constantly move as they talk!!!😆 he tried biting my screen twice before just stopping and watching you guys with look of extreme confusion for the next 2 minutes!!😂 so i just wanted to thank you guys for always entertaining me.....and my little gecko too😁
I have a soft spot in my heart for Crisis. This story, Byrne's Man of Steel and the original Doom Patrol were my childhood intro to the DC universe.
elseworlds enchange and back issues on the same day???!!!!! that's awesome!!!!
issue 9 and 10 are fantastic. the biggest villains vs hero war done in comics. the villains traveling to Oa was a good touch
Dr. Light was created in this comic, really like her though.
Have you seen last episode of the flash? His costume was destroyed in the episode before, but when he comes back from the speed force he still have his costume on! So the way I see it is that the speed force made a completely identical looking costume so he wouldn't be naked when he came out of the speed force.
Great to finally see Crisis on Infinite Earths! NIce to see Sal mention Tower of Babel, and then makes sure to say that the book is badass! Hopefully we see it on Back Issues soon! Great video guys!
I wanna say that I wasted my entire week watching all of these videos, but it really hasn't felt like a waste at all, what an entertaining show! Thanks guys!
man...as a child of the seventies and eighties this was HUUUUUUGE! so many characters that I had rarely seen, was awesome. supergirl and barry dying was big because they didn't kill off characters permanently, at that time. so much crazy shit went on, it was insane. it was like seeing old buddies for the last time.I know it didn't have the same effect on you and that's cool. this was towards the end of my initial comicbook collecting. I would like to say thank you though..because of this channel, it did rekindle interest. I am trying to get my nephew interested in comics now. please keep kickin ass! ...now if I can get you to do the DEFENDERS(new or otherwise) without takin a crap on it I would be stoked...mahalo and aloha!
The one way I could see DC try and explain The Flash "disintegration" is something silly like as he faded into the speed force, the "layers of light escaped our gaze, almost as if Barry was disintegrating before our eyes"
Can't explain the costume though haha
Hi Sal, Ethan & Ben - firstly congratulations on your 90th Episode, and you have to do Final Crisis for your 100th Episode, just to see Ethan & Ben trying to get their heads around it, to then totally rip it apart and get even more mad at Grant Morrison, and don't for to do The Korvac Saga (1991 tpb) you know you want to do it Sal! - it will be hilarious on a galactic level !! Mr. Mistry
Rewatching this episode and hearing Ethan talking about how merging Earth-2 Superman with the other Superman would be like he died and I have to lmao. A year before Rebirth even started! Maybe he should’ve kept his mouth shut 😭
I dont understand why you guys don't have more subscribers..you guys are so awesome
+shamanth ramanchandra Thank you so much =)
As a narrative reason for the simplification of a continuity as complicated and storied as DC's in 1985, this story is rather brilliant. Sure, there are plenty of comic book contrivances and conveniences, but it wholly owns the central driving engine behind its plot as the fascinating and incredibly dense narrative that it is.
I know this is a sprawling mess of a story but I loved it.
Since Sal keeps mentioning Final Crisis, you may as well do it for episode 100.
There is a E.P of the Justice League Animated Series, that explains this pretty well but has one of the darkest endings.
12:29 great Heath Ledger Joker impression :)
I read the first 2 issues and I couldn't get into it, the crisises are such a nerve wreck but it's full of a lot of and I mean a LOT of tragedy, but they are really good stories to read
+Blackwing2040 zero hour either
The best thing about Crisis on Infinite Earths for me was that one cover with all the villains on it.
maybe the reason why Barry doesn't look like he is running is because of a speed mirage, like the one Eobard Thawne/Harrison Wells talks about in season 1 of the flash
Ten episodes later... Oh boy, Comic Pop released another episode. I wonder which Crisis they're gonna go over now? * looks at the title screen and sees "Countdown to Final Crisis" *-Noooooo!
You guys should do Final Crisis for the 100th
Sal, if you want to have some real fun; read Marv Wolfman's revamped novel of Crisis. It focuses on the Flash and really confuses the whole story...but it is fun.
I read the Fandom Page call it the 1st MultiVerse Crisis and also Anti Monitor War Crisis
Now that they've done Elseworlds on the CW shows and Crisis around the corner, watching this show along with Rob's and Benny's channels are seriously helping me catch up and make sense of all the craziness. In fact, ComicPOP motivated me to purchase a DC comic (only ever bought Marvel) for the first time ever.
I'd love you guys to do the xmen teen titans crossover
Ben, the fact that you're wearing an I The Mighty shirt officially makes you the coolest person ever!
Final Crisis should definitely be the 100 ep of Back Issues. I have a feeling Ben & Ethan will be ready to hunt Morrison down afterwards.
Hi Guys I am slowly catching up with all the videos. I did have an answer for Ethan regarding the Flash's phasing in and out in existence. while he was racing against the tachyon cannon there was twice during the storyline where Barry slows his vibrations down long enough to talk to Batman and Superman so in between laps running the opposite direction against tachyon cannon he stops essentially for a few laps to try to explain to them both before speeding back up to try to blow the tachyon cannon up. Also the Anti Monitor had sent Psycho Pirate to kidnap Barry from the future and hold him since he was the only one who Anti Monitor sensed might be a danger to the cannon, he was also at the time the only hero at the time to resist the power Psycho Pirate's Mask effects to get up to the cannon. I know you did JLA AVENGERS Psycho Pirates Mask was one of the items Grand Master has the heroes try to collect. I love you guys. When Ben is talking he reminds me of Jason Lee and Sal you kind of remind me of Brian O'hallaran LOL
I'm curious what post-crisis continuity is Sal's favorite. Like after which crisis was your favorite time?
Probably after between Identity and Infinite.
+ComicPOP! I think for the one hundredth episode you should do something you have been talking about for a long time like Ulitmate Spider-Man, or something special like that and save the last two crises for another time.
Wait...Batman and Superman came out in Action/Detective Comics in 1938.
Crisis on Infinite Earths started in 1985.
52 YEARS LATER!!!!!!!
Darkamora woah that's actually pretty good
In case y’all are wondering’ how the flash destroyed the antimoniters shit, it was the friction caused by his running. At least, that’s what I think it was.
Digging this concept. I would like to request a Swamp Thing recap like you did for Spawn. I never got into either but this show makes me interested in getting some old trades though...keep up the good work
Superman Earth 2: My home planet needs me, I got to go now.
Great episode guys! For episode 100 you gotta go big for such a milestone, has to be Final Crisis.
I love that thumbnail.
First they told us we couldn't cross the streams. Then they told us we can't witness the birth of the universe. Next thing you know, the "man" will be telling us when we can go the bathroom!
Sal, you should have mentioned how millions of shadow demons attacked earth, i was hoping to see your commentary about that event, that was epic
For episode 100 I want the "Marvel Crisis", SECRET WARS 2015... OH YEAH BABY!!
Hey Sal! Love this series! I find this series hilarious. I don't really have a prefrence on Zero Hour or Final Crisis, but until then i have an idea for a Back Issues episode. I think you should break out a few Spider Man stories that pull at the heart strings like "The Kid Who Collects Spider Man", the quick Leah story in Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman Annual #1, and the Death of Jean DeWolf. Since these stories are all short on there own just combined them all in a "Tear Jerker" special! Thanks for all the wonderful comic laughs!
Had to come to this after the first episode of CW’s crisis on infinite earths. holy fucking fuck fuck..
Final crisis for 100 back issues! you guys are awesome. keep up the good work!
There is just something hilarious about hearing that the first flash was....just a fast guy lol
+wearesibz i think he had superpowers back then, though Atom was also only a short guy that went around punching People back in the day.
+The Goddamn Batman I'm pretty sure he was a short guy with radiation powers or something
+Trevor Merritt i'm quite assured of the verility of my claim, seeing as ive read a long and costly book about the history of dc comics. no offense.
Trevor Merritt
np.
You have to do Final Crisis for the 100th episode. It'll be two hours long, and Ben will actually walk out.
I also thought Darksied and Apokolips lived outsided of the Multiverse. That's why when everything was going on they were uneffected.
literally the greatest moment ever I have been wanting this for soooooo long
I've been waiting a year for this to be on Back Issues!!!
This is always one of the highlights of my week :)
This is a funny take on how the story was received.. for me I was all about marvel, aside from Batman, green lantern, and flash (and DC cartoons mostly after the early 90s for me I can’t even remember great marvel shows I watched all the time, but honestly people still said stuff like “dc is for nerds and marvel is the cool kids”)... but like I didn’t read crisis on infinite earths until Civil War was close to wrapping up its original run. Civil war was fun.. but if we equate it to a meal civil war is those little scraps of meat you pick out of your teeth after a meal, and CoIE was this huge epic.
"Well it started in 19fuckin39!!" I want this on a shirt please
The sad thing is, Crisis was never necessary. They could do the Silver Age reboot all over again and simply introduce a new Earth where the heroes were just all starting, and still preserve the original Earths for the occasional crossover. This never confused anybody. The fact they kept reintroducing the multiverse proved it.
I remember trying to read this when I was like 6...I didn't know WTF was happening then and I still don't.
You guys should consider making these into podcasts.
Do Final Crisis for the 100th episode, also Crisis on Infinite Earths was like your second World War Hulk, you teased that for awhile and then finally did it, you did the same with this said you were going to do it but didn't do it until now
DC Marvel:Secret Crisis!!
Plus we got Wally west to become my favorite flash
But not anymore Dx
oOLanceOo i know and it still hurts me that we can't have the real wally west come back alive and kicking post convergence i miss him so much
+Tevya Smolka i just saw your comment on rangos video
Trevor Foulks huh interesting
I'm pretty sure I have said this like a bunch of time to you but, wally actually has his original personality back and has powers again.
Final. Crisis. Still completely lost. Have read it three times.
Crisis is more enjoyable and entertaining looking back. Especially after reading how later comics use the monitor/anit-monitor, like Geoff Johns does. Great story, in my opinion.
well thank you for finally getting to it sal
Watching this in 2020 and hearing that all this multiverse shit happens because of a guy named Krona (which sounds weirdly similar to Corona) hits VERY different.
Tenuous connection at best
I love the George Perez art in crisis.
14:37 In what way does that make *more* sense?!
It's episode one hundred- gotta go full Morrison with Final Crisis.
Final Crisis. I really just want to see a Ben and Ethan, "WHAT??" counter.
Speaking of George Perez, you guys should TOTALLY do Judas Contract or SOME kind of New Teen Titans story!
I love your channel please keep up the work y'all are catching me up on everything I missed
Good stuff. Nice perspective.
It was less about cleaning up continuity and more about finding a way to bring in all the properties DC had acquired over the years with one big retcon.