@@NorroTaku oh look at mister fancy pants “I can afford an ice cube forge” over here. Most of us just have to throw ice cubes in the wife’s oven and hope she doesn’t notice.
Dear Tony. I will let you know, this channel has the honor of being watched at 1x speed, unlike most which get the 2x treatment. Best wishes from the Baltics
Same, there's so much more to pick up on in the video than most, there is layers of nuance just oozing from the screen which would be sadly missed at higher playback speeds.
Thank you Tony. The Mrs. has been at me for a while about dull kitchen knives .... I can now show her this video to completely justify the need for a cnc controlled milling machine!!! And just in time for Xmas!!! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
You can use whichever has a suitable angle. The angle of the spot or center drill should be equal to or greater than the tip angle of the drill to avoid wearing the margins. If you don't have a spot drill with a suitable angle, use a center drill that does, and vice versa. When I was in trade school, our shop only had 90-degree spot drills, but all of our center drills had 118-degree tips, which worked perfectly for the HSS bit set we got in our tool chests. Of course, this tended to cause some confusion with the first-years, who would center drill past the pilot, rendering the operation "pointless," so to speak.
@@theofficialczex1708 Some good points there. But a proper carbide CNC spot drill with be more rigid than a center drill, and should have a greatly thinned web at the point for better accuracy. It's a more optimized tool, center drills are best left at the lathe if possible. And while not the best tool for spotting, a 90 degree spot has the advantage of being able to create your chamfer at the same time, so they are popular choices for production.
I loved your line about the Tormek being for people who love really sharp tools and not having much money. A few years ago I found a like-new Tormek at a garage sale with *all* the jigs for $50. I had to think long and hard about that purchase- must have been 20 or 30 microseconds.
If you use dry ice to cut your hollow sections, you don't need to lubricate the burning string with cutting fluid. It's great for parts that need to be ISO cleanroom certified.
This Thanksgiving, I'm grateful for ToT dropping the occasional masterpiece. I do miss the days of constant ToT updates. Scarcity makes the heart grow fonder, though, making these beauties even more special. We love you, ToT, and always wish your best! Thank you for sharing yourself with us all these years!
He made me get an old cleveland mill. Then he went cnc. Then he stopped uploading. I already figured out how to sharpen a knife. I'm just here bc I'm on the hopper.
I think you missed a golden opportunity to make that whole thing a jig for the Tormek. You have a low rpm motor, so you could have powered the linear rail with a replacement wheel on the Tormek with a rod/angle attached. Maybe that's Part 2 of this video? You know, for those of us that don't have a milling machine to run it with! 😁
Well since the T-8 runs at 90 rpm, given a conjectural pivot point of 8” on the 10” factory wheel (or counter- balanced standin) that would mean an effective linear distance of 32” x 90 per 60 seconds. That’s 240’ a minute. Slightly faster than the CNC. Might need to step it down via an escapement (such as the Long Now clock in Bezo’s bug-out cave) to prevent TOT from getting his stropping block embedded in his other wet stones.
You can easily attach extra wheels to the outside of either the leather strop wheel or the stone. Also, the Tormek is stupid simple under the hood: the transmission consists of the motor axle running directly on a plastic wheel with a rubber track, wich sits on the same axle as the stone. No gears, no belts, just the motor spinning along, slowly turning that wheel. The mechanism is just tensioned by gravity and the mass of the motor. The bearings are just nylon bushings that snap into the housing of the machine.
Technically, he tormak is going to produce a small amount of hollow grind because it's a wheel stone. A flat stone is technically superior in that way. Not enough to matter mind, but, better is better and I think old tony has earned himself a little excess once in awhile.
@@jttech44 Don't forget those flat stones cost a lot of dough, and how much longer it takes to sweating away on a flat stone vs running a blade along the wheel in a Tormek for a stupid sharp cutting edge and a fraction of the cost, skill and labor required. When something does something for cheaper, quicker safer almost as nice result that means its better. The Tormetk is better.
I've been following a lot of creators on TH-cam, but very few have consistently captured my attention and admiration, like This Old Tony. Your channel stands out not just for its entertainment value, which is phenomenal, but also for the depth of knowledge and the unique humor you bring to each project. What sets you apart, especially when compared to other favorites of mine like Team CoCo, Hand Tool Rescue, and Tested, is your ability to blend complex technical details with an approachable and often hilarious narrative. This blend puts you quickly among my top 4 most anticipated content creators. Keep up the incredible work! I eagerly look forward to your future projects, knowing they'll be packed with the same quality, humor, and insight that make your channel standout in the vast sea of TH-cam content.
My wife *just* fell back asleep until that scene came up and she was not too thrilled when I woke her up again by laughing my ass off. It was worth it...
As a Tormek owner, I found this very interesting. Who else, but TOT would come up with an idea like this. Hope to see you build some jigs for the Tormek.
@@gianki83 In all seriousness, he probably pre-cut the metal before that shot. He set them all up neatly up against each other, then hit the table REALLY hard. No cuts, no editing required.
Hey Tony, marvelous video AGAIN as usual. You made mention of not wanting this to become a “stones” video…. BUT quite frankly I would love to see a comprehensive video on sharpening stones: the different types, what they are used for, the alternatives available and from who/where, how to use, what to use on (and not, like AL), etc. diamond, silicon carbide, other materials and what and when to use…. I suspect you could also cover sharpening tools, jigs and appliances at least as apply to the stones covered. Heck, just going over the stones you showed in your draw, proper names, and sources, etc.. a deep dive into stones ;-). Might include on grinders too. Different grit sizes and when to use each. Maybe it’s a grinding stones and flat stones video. You get the idea. I know I’m ignorant in this area and other might enjoy too. Thanks for all you do and Happy Turkey Day!
Another reason to get a 3D Printer. -Tape the stone to the print bed. -Mount the kniveholder at the printhead -Set z height for angle -Move x to move the knife -Move y to move the stone
I LOVE this video. I'm a sharpening nerd and I have at least a couple grand invested in various sharpening systems, and I have sharpened other peoples knives for money. I have some comments: 1. I would love to see your take on a precision sharpening jig for a 2x72 belt grinder setup, since I also own one and I haven't cracked that particular nut yet. 2. With a precise setup like you have now, raising the angle for your finishing steps (i.e. highest grit stone and strop) by about 5 degrees will give you a significant improvement in cutting performance and longevity. 3. Looking at my edges with a handheld microscope at 60x to 100x magnification changed my entire understanding of sharpening and how various alloys react to different sharpening angles and sharpening stones. Before that I thought I knew what sharp was but now when my pocket knife is only shaving sharp (as opposed to hair popping) I retouch the edge.
Earlier this year I fixed our not-very-old-but-cheap wet stone grinder at school by doing what any sensible shop assistant would do - spend more on spare parts that what a new one cost, and still had to call McGyver in to get it running. Then spent a few weeks sharpening our old chisels. Then went and bought a bunch of new chisels AND a Tormek. That thing is delightful. Spent a couple of “PL Days” watching TH-cam videos in the office, then smashed out 50 new chisels in about 2-3 days, even with kiddies interupting every 5-10 mins. Yes, new chisels. Yes, new grinder. Yes, it costs a lot. No, you can’t touch it yet. It’s my baby.
iv been using the string and ice trick for years, and it works great. Just make sure you use cotton string. sometimes you do have to tap it with a hammer to get it to pop.
Seconded. In addition, I've found it important to use reef knots in the cotton string. Regular knots can cause localized heating, possibly causing stress risers and an imperfect cut.
@@HangarQueen If your getting localized heating it's not the knot. I've gotten good results w/ kerosene over alcohol. Also helps to put the work piece outside in the sun for 30-35min.
@@josephcitizen4195 Alcohol cam make wonders if you keep consistent evaporation rate. I have made a DYI heat chamber to regulate air temperature around the fluid.
@@baumkuchen6543 mind blown! You're obviously years beyond me with this technique. I've prob only done it 4-5 times. I am/was happy with my results but I will deff keep the evap rate in mind come x-mas time. thank you!
From making your first knife for Xyla Foxlin, to making a filling vise for blade sharpening, and now a full project for sharpening knives (plus two (k)new knives). The channel is getting edgy. Good job as always!
That was awesome as always, what a cool set up. Only thing to make it better would be a treadle to power it like an old sewing machine, I could enjoy sitting and sharpening knives all afternoon on that set up.
That's exactly what I thought, a foot pedal and some springs to pull it back would be such a responsive motion control system. A super simple and space efficient solution could involve a clamp to fix the main apparatus to the front of a table, an adjustable cord or webbing to the foot pedal, and a roller that guides the cord to the pedal
9:18 I don't see it anywhere else in the top comments, so I just wanna bring some attention to it.. The editing and splice of that square-tube cut gimmick was PRISTINE. Like I deadass couldn't see a cut/break/line (in the tube) before- and watching the flames, there's no obvious cut/splice in the video. Bravo ToT, that was a BEAUTIFUL edit you pulled off there. Your cutting shenanigans, somehow, keep getting better and better, as does your video editing abilities. It's certainly a gift you've mastered, and I look forward to what new trickery you come up with.
before the cut in video (when cubes are being pulled out) there were no cuts in tube. then you see already sliced tube and table kicked to make tube come apart. not much editing here, just clever "directing"
You know what the interesting thing was Tony? I was considering building something very similar myself. A reciprocating platen to hold diamond/oil stones with a jig system also to sharpen knives. What I had in mind was very very similar to what you made, just that I would have a small motor do the reciprocating action and it would be faster obviously, though I understand you were just testing this with your mill table. Those edges you got prove this is a really effective way to sharpen, the interchangeability of stones is the best part in the design. If you can find a way to power it and increase the speed by maybe 5x, you would have a quick and really effective way to sharpen almost any knife, at least any fixed blade that's not really small.
Awesome build. I also vote for a windshield wiper motor. PWM speed controller to get it juuust right. You could also swipe a windshield reservoir and pump for your irrigation system. Happy Thanksgiving Tony. I'm thankful for all of he knowledge and entertainment that you provide.
I dont know why you dont upload videos as often as you used to, but i want you to know that you dont HAVE to upload videos for us if you dont want to/are not able to. We will always appreciate you for all the things you have given us in the past, no matter how many videos you will give us in the futere
I presume it's due to the fact of needing to record them With Tony's editing style, there's probably a lot of ancillary footage needed. Not to mention the actual editing of said captured footage
So you guys obviously weren't here. Whoever watched his kids passed away, IIRC. His father-in-law or something. So he was able to record all the time until that point. Then that changed because of something he had no control over. Don't like it? Stop donating and/or watching.
@@BuzzingGoobermost people know what the deal is. If you donate and aren't satisfied them stop. Nobody's forcing anyone to stay here and you have no place to be upset about what other people do with their money.
@@BuzzingGoober From his Patreon: "I want to keep all content free. Consequently, this is a rewardless Patreon. Except of course for the beaming warmth that comes from knowing you're supporting something you like. " and he only changes you IF he uploads a video that month, any additional videos in that month do not cost you additional money. I support at the $5 tier. Instead of showing how thankless you are, how about be thankful we got a new ToT video today?
You never cease to amaze me and show what can be done in a home shop. I am going to try that thermal shock method to cut some hard stuff - I've got some 68 HRC steel that is a pain to cut and that hot string and ice might just be the ticket. Thanks!
I feel absolutely betrayed. This Old Tony patented tangents is EXCLUSIVELY the reason I tune in! This video was remarkably in topic and coherent... The betrayal deepens. Et tu Tony?!
Good timing. I spent several frustrating tens of minutes sharpening my kitchen knives today. They're better, but still leave a lot to be desired. You've inspired me to give it another go tomorrow
A lot of people give up just before theyre about to make it. You know you never know when that next obstacle is going to be the last one. The truest greatness lies in being
It is super easy to rationalize a Tormek once you take up *_woodturning._* Also if you want to freehand-sharpen on a Tormek, you can get the SVD-110 Tool Rest and Bob's your uncle. I think it is also included in the TNT-808 Woodturner's Kit.
Man I have to tell you, that is such a unique design for sharpening. I have the cheap Wen water stone sharpener that’s a tormek knock off and it works great but like you said it takes forever. I may have to make myself something like this! Great idea Sir!!!
Tormek has a kit for your bench grinder. With holding bracket and guide bar. I use it for my tormek too, for the heavy grinding. Tormek is the final step.
Wow, it's been a minute - but once again, Ol' Tony doesn't disappoint. Looking for that TOTMech system to be on the shelves at my local Heinous Freight in the coming months.
*_Get away from the king stones and step into chosera stones. You wet them but don't soak them. The issue though with your method is your pushing the blade into the stone and you really should be dragging it. You want to create the burr. Pushing the blade into the stone is actually keeping it from getting a burr and keeping from its maximum sharpness. Once you have the burr, the knife is as sharp as it will get. Its just a matter of removing the burr without removing the sharp. So on your set up, apply pressure to the blade on the drag stroke, and let up on the pressure on the push stroke. Check out the channel burrfection. You won't be sorry. Happy thanksgiving._*
Your fancy knife looks like a "Shun." I've had a scalloped 8" chefs knife for close to 20 years now. My only regret was not purchasing one sooner. Fantastic knives!
Have that same Shun santoku. It only leaves the box when I can be sure no serrated steak-knife philistines are around to desecrate it while I'm not looking. Wonderful knife.
Great video, as always, and I LOVE the humor. 6 months or a year from now, someone will have a linear sharpener like this on the market. It's a simple and ingenious idea, so much better than conventional sharpeners! And since you have published it, no one can patent it (but they will try, with certain specific differences .....) Thanks for sharing!
On the Tormek you can actually use that trying stone they give you to make the stone cut coarser or smoother, it really makes a big difference, I was having the same problem but it works great
Get a small gear motor or old windshield wiper motor for the linear movement. A slotted radius arm could make the stroke length adjustable. Awesome video as always. Happy Thanksgiving 😃
Using the cheapest part of an expensive knife sharpener, to make your own knife sharpener with the most expensive tool you own, is textbook TOT. Love it!
That layout reminds me of Prusa-style 3D printers, you could rig up a stepper motor and run the stage back and forth with a simple belt drive. You could even replicate that idea using 3D printer bits and lengths of extrusion.
if your knife has a folding handle you can use that as an angle guide just keep the folding mechanism at a 90° angle scraping the table with the end of the handle. you can vary the angle by using thinner or thicker piece of wood under the stone. less versatile than this but does the job. great idea on the moving stone though
I'd love to see it run at the same inches per minute as the Tormek. Perhaps a reciprocating saw could drive the unit with some stroke multiplying linkage. Great project.
@ThisOldTony Some years ago I did volunteer work in a woodworking shop, I used the Tormek to sharpen chisels, it's a fantastic machine, But the centre spindle was not stainless steel, and it can rust and split the stone. The spindle runs on nylon bearings which are replaceable. So your first job, for longevity of the stone and next video, is to machine a spindle out of stainless steel. Oh, and a metal polish cream like Autosol smeared over the leather strop wheel works a absolute treat.👌
The important thing here isn't whether your creation works or not, or how well it works. It's building a really deep understanding of the mechanics of sharpening, which pay off down the line in very interesting and unexpected ways.
This screams to me, that's the dream in so many levels. Obviously the part of having consistency and perfect sharp edges on all my knives, but mostly the ability to build something just because. You sir, is my goal in life.
Simply cant get enough of tony's video's, i could easily watch 8 hours straight without going to the bathroom, i have no idols but if i did, Tony and Mr.Pete would be them !
ToT, you're a sharp fellow! My father always used cannon fuse and cold beer for cutting stuff in the shop, but the smell and the smoke was horrible, especially when he cut old railroad ties that way.
This is… amazing. I’m honestly jealous! I’ve been freehand sharpening for just over 8 years. I know that you can get those fancy jigs with tiny stones. But this, this will take any standard-sized stone and not even bat an eye. Aside from using a faster drive system, a 120-grit whetstone, maybe a shapton glass or Koramaku, heck, even an Atoma 140 diamond plate would get you blazing through establishing new or fixing damaged edges. The coarsest Norton Crystolon is also a 120 grit if you want to use an oilstone
If you are into very sharp knives I can recommend the book "Knife Deburring: Science behind the lasting razor edge" by Dr. Vadim Kraichuk, the best book on the topic in my opinion. There is also a dedicated chapter on Tormek sharpening for different types of steel.
Hi Tony, I work as an engineer in special machinery and I use a lot of those linear rails. Please put in the small caps to cover the screw holes otherwise you will ruin the seal of the runner block. Sorry if my englisch is a little broken. Greetings from Austria.
Damn it Tony, not only do you make me want a bunch of Shop machines for my non-existent shop but now, You make me want tools machines that don't even exist! Also, it's all well and good to be a Jig enjoyer, but don't go off the deep end into Hootenanny's.
Dear Tony there's a channel called Sharup. He has a very similar thing that is driven by a simple motor with like an offset pin on a wheel and attached with a piece of leather. I'm not describing it well but it's in every video. Thanks bro. You are by far my favorite TH-camr
We've watched you describe how your coworker eats an apple, and how you obliviously helped a patient escape a special clinic next door. You think we DON'T want tangents?!
Tony, when you set your bevel angle, you're not taking into account the primary grind angle of the knife (I'm guessing between 3 and 5 degrees.) You have to subtract half that figure to get an accurate bevel measurement. Love your work 👍 🍻
As a professional full time sharpener, who had been a big fan of tormek for years, welcome to the club! Edit: omg. I got noticed by the Ol' T himself! Happy start to my day.
Great to see a new video! Shurap, a blacksmith from Ukraine, had a similar jig. But he attaches the knife to the jug and holds the sand paper. But you could check out the machine, it's pretty neat.
ToT: *Buys Tormek after years of pining for one, immediately cannibalises it for just 3 parts - 2 knobs and a bend metal rod.. Love it!! ❤ Thanks, as usual, for the chuckles Tony 😅 👍
Wonderful, I love it! I help out a Repair Cafés 6x a year. Some 2y ago I was asked whether I'd be willing to carry my T-8 over to start offering knives and scissors sharpening as a sort of "repair". Since the T-8 is underused at my workshop I was more than happy to do so. I've been completely booked out every time since then. I now sharpen 4h non-stop 6x at Repair Cafés. The households in this area probably have the sharpest tools on average in the whole country by now :)
One thing to keep in mind is that the "dulling" of the TORMEK wet stone over time may be remedied by refurbishing/flattening the surface with the diamond jig. Sometimes there's too much iron embedded into the surface of the wheel. The TORMEK is useful in my opinion to restore a concave shape on the cutting edge when it took some abuse, but not for regular sharpening: it takes away too much material. While washing away the abraded material on a flat wet stone is easy, it probably slows down sharpening ... I'm told that one should keep the aluminium or whatever sludge on the flat stone during sharpening.
I think that precision clear ice would get you a cleaner cut than that shop ice that's been lying around for ever.
Damn, beat me to it
Also don't put your tube socks next to the ice cubes, they will be cold once you need them, rendering them useless.
I think the slop in the system was due to his fuel sorce. Precision would require a higher quality kerosene and probably so fine cotton line.
I toss mine in the forge for a minute or so
the results speak for themselves!
@@NorroTaku oh look at mister fancy pants “I can afford an ice cube forge” over here. Most of us just have to throw ice cubes in the wife’s oven and hope she doesn’t notice.
Dear Tony. I will let you know, this channel has the honor of being watched at 1x speed, unlike most which get the 2x treatment. Best wishes from the Baltics
Same here!
Oh I wish, there would be a 4x sometimes. But certainly not here.
@@kleckerklotz9620ahh, but you can...in the console in dev tools: document.getElementsByTagName("video")[0].playbackRate = 4
Same, there's so much more to pick up on in the video than most, there is layers of nuance just oozing from the screen which would be sadly missed at higher playback speeds.
You're a 2 timer, too aye?
Thank you Tony. The Mrs. has been at me for a while about dull kitchen knives .... I can now show her this video to completely justify the need for a cnc controlled milling machine!!!
And just in time for Xmas!!!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Seeing someone finally use a spotting drill instead of a center drill to spot hole locations fills me with happy machinist feelings.
You can use whichever has a suitable angle. The angle of the spot or center drill should be equal to or greater than the tip angle of the drill to avoid wearing the margins. If you don't have a spot drill with a suitable angle, use a center drill that does, and vice versa. When I was in trade school, our shop only had 90-degree spot drills, but all of our center drills had 118-degree tips, which worked perfectly for the HSS bit set we got in our tool chests. Of course, this tended to cause some confusion with the first-years, who would center drill past the pilot, rendering the operation "pointless," so to speak.
@@theofficialczex1708 Some good points there. But a proper carbide CNC spot drill with be more rigid than a center drill, and should have a greatly thinned web at the point for better accuracy. It's a more optimized tool, center drills are best left at the lathe if possible. And while not the best tool for spotting, a 90 degree spot has the advantage of being able to create your chamfer at the same time, so they are popular choices for production.
I loved your line about the Tormek being for people who love really sharp tools and not having much money. A few years ago I found a like-new Tormek at a garage sale with *all* the jigs for $50. I had to think long and hard about that purchase- must have been 20 or 30 microseconds.
holy smokes, $50?! that's a much better deal that I got. color me jealous!
I see Old Tony, I click. Them's the rules.
So true
Darn right
It is the only way!! I'd wake up from being dead to watch a new video!!
This will be the top comment for sure.
This is the way.
If you use dry ice to cut your hollow sections, you don't need to lubricate the burning string with cutting fluid. It's great for parts that need to be ISO cleanroom certified.
I don't think it was cutting fluid, I think it was lighter fluid, for the burny burny thing.
The lighter fluid is the cutting fluid.
@@roygrafton6322whoosh
Are you saying that with dry ice, just the friction of having tied the string is enough heat to focus the thermal shock? Neat. :)
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This Thanksgiving, I'm grateful for ToT dropping the occasional masterpiece. I do miss the days of constant ToT updates. Scarcity makes the heart grow fonder, though, making these beauties even more special. We love you, ToT, and always wish your best! Thank you for sharing yourself with us all these years!
He made me get an old cleveland mill. Then he went cnc. Then he stopped uploading. I already figured out how to sharpen a knife. I'm just here bc I'm on the hopper.
I think you missed a golden opportunity to make that whole thing a jig for the Tormek. You have a low rpm motor, so you could have powered the linear rail with a replacement wheel on the Tormek with a rod/angle attached. Maybe that's Part 2 of this video? You know, for those of us that don't have a milling machine to run it with! 😁
Well since the T-8 runs at 90 rpm, given a conjectural pivot point of 8” on the 10” factory wheel (or counter- balanced standin) that would mean an effective linear distance of 32” x 90 per 60 seconds. That’s 240’ a minute. Slightly faster than the CNC. Might need to step it down via an escapement (such as the Long Now clock in Bezo’s bug-out cave) to prevent TOT from getting his stropping block embedded in his other wet stones.
You can easily attach extra wheels to the outside of either the leather strop wheel or the stone.
Also, the Tormek is stupid simple under the hood: the transmission consists of the motor axle running directly on a plastic wheel with a rubber track, wich sits on the same axle as the stone. No gears, no belts, just the motor spinning along, slowly turning that wheel. The mechanism is just tensioned by gravity and the mass of the motor.
The bearings are just nylon bushings that snap into the housing of the machine.
I don’t understand how you’re able to make the most basic projects so fun to watch. The aluminum strap driven by your table had me crying
Out of all the machinist channels i saw on TH-cam you're the only one i keep re-watching your videos again and again
him & my mechanics (in my case)
I've never seen someone go through so much work building a sharpener after buying a Tormek, but I like it! Double 👍
🤣😅
Technically, he tormak is going to produce a small amount of hollow grind because it's a wheel stone. A flat stone is technically superior in that way.
Not enough to matter mind, but, better is better and I think old tony has earned himself a little excess once in awhile.
@@jttech44 Don't forget those flat stones cost a lot of dough, and how much longer it takes to sweating away on a flat stone vs running a blade along the wheel in a Tormek for a stupid sharp cutting edge and a fraction of the cost, skill and labor required. When something does something for cheaper, quicker safer almost as nice result that means its better. The Tormetk is better.
I've been following a lot of creators on TH-cam, but very few have consistently captured my attention and admiration, like This Old Tony. Your channel stands out not just for its entertainment value, which is phenomenal, but also for the depth of knowledge and the unique humor you bring to each project.
What sets you apart, especially when compared to other favorites of mine like Team CoCo, Hand Tool Rescue, and Tested, is your ability to blend complex technical details with an approachable and often hilarious narrative. This blend puts you quickly among my top 4 most anticipated content creators. Keep up the incredible work! I eagerly look forward to your future projects, knowing they'll be packed with the same quality, humor, and insight that make your channel standout in the vast sea of TH-cam content.
Sidenote: Happy Thanksgiving ToT!
You've put that into words eloquently.
Well said my friend
That cutting technique with the ice cubes is total genius! Love your cube drawer!
My wife *just* fell back asleep until that scene came up and she was not too thrilled when I woke her up again by laughing my ass off. It was worth it...
As a Tormek owner, I found this very interesting. Who else, but TOT would come up with an idea like this. Hope to see you build some jigs for the Tormek.
That ice cutting effect was AMAZINGLY well done! I loved it. (And I'm slightly proud of myself for understanding it.)
But how did he made the bar jump?
@@gianki83 My best guess would be a hammer.
@@gianki83 the internal stresses in the material cause the work piece to jump when they are released. pretty basic material science.
bro.@@josephcitizen4195
@@gianki83 In all seriousness, he probably pre-cut the metal before that shot. He set them all up neatly up against each other, then hit the table REALLY hard. No cuts, no editing required.
Hey Tony, marvelous video AGAIN as usual. You made mention of not wanting this to become a “stones” video…. BUT quite frankly I would love to see a comprehensive video on sharpening stones: the different types, what they are used for, the alternatives available and from who/where, how to use, what to use on (and not, like AL), etc. diamond, silicon carbide, other materials and what and when to use…. I suspect you could also cover sharpening tools, jigs and appliances at least as apply to the stones covered. Heck, just going over the stones you showed in your draw, proper names, and sources, etc.. a deep dive into stones ;-). Might include on grinders too. Different grit sizes and when to use each. Maybe it’s a grinding stones and flat stones video. You get the idea. I know I’m ignorant in this area and other might enjoy too. Thanks for all you do and Happy Turkey Day!
I second this!
@@chasetuttle2121 I second any idea for videos from ToT
I second it too!!
yup i want it ba-yad
Another reason to get a 3D Printer.
-Tape the stone to the print bed.
-Mount the kniveholder at the printhead
-Set z height for angle
-Move x to move the knife
-Move y to move the stone
You could strop with a z-hop. :)
@@stazeIIand you don't even care about the thickness using a Z probe
-Hit the "GO" button
-Run for your life! 😜
He already has a milling machine, should have just put the stone in the vice and made a spindle mounted knife holder.
Pure genius
I LOVE this video. I'm a sharpening nerd and I have at least a couple grand invested in various sharpening systems, and I have sharpened other peoples knives for money.
I have some comments:
1. I would love to see your take on a precision sharpening jig for a 2x72 belt grinder setup, since I also own one and I haven't cracked that particular nut yet.
2. With a precise setup like you have now, raising the angle for your finishing steps (i.e. highest grit stone and strop) by about 5 degrees will give you a significant improvement in cutting performance and longevity.
3. Looking at my edges with a handheld microscope at 60x to 100x magnification changed my entire understanding of sharpening and how various alloys react to different sharpening angles and sharpening stones. Before that I thought I knew what sharp was but now when my pocket knife is only shaving sharp (as opposed to hair popping) I retouch the edge.
What do you mean by "hair popping"? Cutting a hair by pushing down on it perpendicularly?
@@somethingelse4424 when the edge apex is so fine that it can dig into the hair from the weight of the hair strand alone, that's hair popping sharp.
Earlier this year I fixed our not-very-old-but-cheap wet stone grinder at school by doing what any sensible shop assistant would do - spend more on spare parts that what a new one cost, and still had to call McGyver in to get it running. Then spent a few weeks sharpening our old chisels.
Then went and bought a bunch of new chisels AND a Tormek. That thing is delightful. Spent a couple of “PL Days” watching TH-cam videos in the office, then smashed out 50 new chisels in about 2-3 days, even with kiddies interupting every 5-10 mins.
Yes, new chisels. Yes, new grinder. Yes, it costs a lot. No, you can’t touch it yet. It’s my baby.
iv been using the string and ice trick for years, and it works great. Just make sure you use cotton string. sometimes you do have to tap it with a hammer to get it to pop.
Seconded. In addition, I've found it important to use reef knots in the cotton string. Regular knots can cause localized heating, possibly causing stress risers and an imperfect cut.
FYI dental floss also works in a pinch
@@HangarQueen If your getting localized heating it's not the knot. I've gotten good results w/ kerosene over alcohol. Also helps to put the work piece outside in the sun for 30-35min.
@@josephcitizen4195 Alcohol cam make wonders if you keep consistent evaporation rate. I have made a DYI heat chamber to regulate air temperature around the fluid.
@@baumkuchen6543 mind blown! You're obviously years beyond me with this technique. I've prob only done it 4-5 times. I am/was happy with my results but I will deff keep the evap rate in mind come x-mas time. thank you!
From making your first knife for Xyla Foxlin, to making a filling vise for blade sharpening, and now a full project for sharpening knives (plus two (k)new knives). The channel is getting edgy.
Good job as always!
> making your first knife
Meanwhile at 16:04: "this knife I made probably 10 years ago"
Uh oh, the jig is up ☺️
@@Koushakurremember he occasionally time travels, so nothing is for certain.. 😉
@@KoushakurI think the Xyla knife was his first folding knife
That was awesome as always, what a cool set up.
Only thing to make it better would be a treadle to power it like an old sewing machine, I could enjoy sitting and sharpening knives all afternoon on that set up.
More or less that was what I was thinking
I envisioned powering it with a small bench mounted steam engine. You could run it using compressed air if you didn't want to set up a boiler...
That's exactly what I thought, a foot pedal and some springs to pull it back would be such a responsive motion control system.
A super simple and space efficient solution could involve a clamp to fix the main apparatus to the front of a table, an adjustable cord or webbing to the foot pedal, and a roller that guides the cord to the pedal
I was thinking along the lines of using a shaper machine.
I'm thinking that using a rocking chair wold give a good relaxing time while sharpening. .
9:18 I don't see it anywhere else in the top comments, so I just wanna bring some attention to it.. The editing and splice of that square-tube cut gimmick was PRISTINE. Like I deadass couldn't see a cut/break/line (in the tube) before- and watching the flames, there's no obvious cut/splice in the video. Bravo ToT, that was a BEAUTIFUL edit you pulled off there.
Your cutting shenanigans, somehow, keep getting better and better, as does your video editing abilities. It's certainly a gift you've mastered, and I look forward to what new trickery you come up with.
before the cut in video (when cubes are being pulled out) there were no cuts in tube. then you see already sliced tube and table kicked to make tube come apart. not much editing here, just clever "directing"
You know what the interesting thing was Tony? I was considering building something very similar myself. A reciprocating platen to hold diamond/oil stones with a jig system also to sharpen knives. What I had in mind was very very similar to what you made, just that I would have a small motor do the reciprocating action and it would be faster obviously, though I understand you were just testing this with your mill table.
Those edges you got prove this is a really effective way to sharpen, the interchangeability of stones is the best part in the design. If you can find a way to power it and increase the speed by maybe 5x, you would have a quick and really effective way to sharpen almost any knife, at least any fixed blade that's not really small.
Awesome build. I also vote for a windshield wiper motor. PWM speed controller to get it juuust right.
You could also swipe a windshield reservoir and pump for your irrigation system.
Happy Thanksgiving Tony. I'm thankful for all of he knowledge and entertainment that you provide.
Or just strap the knife sharpener to the hood, and open a roadside sharpening service.
I dont know why you dont upload videos as often as you used to, but i want you to know that you dont HAVE to upload videos for us if you dont want to/are not able to. We will always appreciate you for all the things you have given us in the past, no matter how many videos you will give us in the futere
I presume it's due to the fact of needing to record them
With Tony's editing style, there's probably a lot of ancillary footage needed. Not to mention the actual editing of said captured footage
@Spiker985Studios he shouldnt accept patreon if he isnt willing to produce content.
So you guys obviously weren't here. Whoever watched his kids passed away, IIRC. His father-in-law or something. So he was able to record all the time until that point. Then that changed because of something he had no control over. Don't like it? Stop donating and/or watching.
@@BuzzingGoobermost people know what the deal is. If you donate and aren't satisfied them stop. Nobody's forcing anyone to stay here and you have no place to be upset about what other people do with their money.
@@BuzzingGoober From his Patreon: "I want to keep all content free. Consequently, this is a rewardless Patreon. Except of course for the beaming warmth that comes from knowing you're supporting something you like. " and he only changes you IF he uploads a video that month, any additional videos in that month do not cost you additional money. I support at the $5 tier. Instead of showing how thankless you are, how about be thankful we got a new ToT video today?
You never cease to amaze me and show what can be done in a home shop. I am going to try that thermal shock method to cut some hard stuff - I've got some 68 HRC steel that is a pain to cut and that hot string and ice might just be the ticket. Thanks!
“I’m a sucker for anything with Jiggs.”
That’s why Jiggs and Maggie are your favorite fictional characters.
I feel absolutely betrayed. This Old Tony patented tangents is EXCLUSIVELY the reason I tune in!
This video was remarkably in topic and coherent... The betrayal deepens. Et tu Tony?!
I would love to see how you can make the Tormek more complicated and expensive by making homemade jigs.
challenge accepted!
It’s always a great day when ToT uploads, hope your having a great thanksgiving man
Good timing. I spent several frustrating tens of minutes sharpening my kitchen knives today. They're better, but still leave a lot to be desired. You've inspired me to give it another go tomorrow
A lot of people give up just before theyre about to make it. You know you never know when that next obstacle is going to be the last one.
The truest greatness lies in being
Really impressed with how neatly you tied that string.
not my first time cutting aluminum!
Having This Old Tony notifications on isn’t fast enough. I need it beamed into my brain.
I hear Neuralink are doing human trials now, so you're in luck!
It is super easy to rationalize a Tormek once you take up *_woodturning._*
Also if you want to freehand-sharpen on a Tormek, you can get the SVD-110 Tool Rest and Bob's your uncle. I think it is also included in the TNT-808 Woodturner's Kit.
Don’t know what I prefer more- listen to you talk, or watch you work.
Man I have to tell you, that is such a unique design for sharpening. I have the cheap Wen water stone sharpener that’s a tormek knock off and it works great but like you said it takes forever. I may have to make myself something like this! Great idea Sir!!!
Today I was going to be thankful for my family but then this upload dropped and now they're taking a back seat
Tormek has a kit for your bench grinder. With holding bracket and guide bar. I use it for my tormek too, for the heavy grinding. Tormek is the final step.
I'll stick with ToTmek.
@@matthewellisor5835that sounds like a mecha Tony sent from the future where CNC machines have taken control
Wow, it's been a minute - but once again, Ol' Tony doesn't disappoint. Looking for that TOTMech system to be on the shelves at my local Heinous Freight in the coming months.
The editing on that lighter and ice on aluminium bit...
*Italian hands*
Belissima
*_Get away from the king stones and step into chosera stones. You wet them but don't soak them. The issue though with your method is your pushing the blade into the stone and you really should be dragging it. You want to create the burr. Pushing the blade into the stone is actually keeping it from getting a burr and keeping from its maximum sharpness. Once you have the burr, the knife is as sharp as it will get. Its just a matter of removing the burr without removing the sharp. So on your set up, apply pressure to the blade on the drag stroke, and let up on the pressure on the push stroke. Check out the channel burrfection. You won't be sorry. Happy thanksgiving._*
professional knife maker here, they are pretty good for first attempts - sure my lathe work would be worse
Your fancy knife looks like a "Shun." I've had a scalloped 8" chefs knife for close to 20 years now. My only regret was not purchasing one sooner. Fantastic knives!
Have that same Shun santoku. It only leaves the box when I can be sure no serrated steak-knife philistines are around to desecrate it while I'm not looking. Wonderful knife.
Has Shun fixed their heat treating yet? Their older VG-10 knives were overhardened and chipped with even light use.
Dude, never stop making videos!!!!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
Great video, as always, and I LOVE the humor. 6 months or a year from now, someone will have a linear sharpener like this on the market. It's a simple and ingenious idea, so much better than conventional sharpeners! And since you have published it, no one can patent it (but they will try, with certain specific differences .....) Thanks for sharing!
Bravo. May the creative spirit never die...
Yay! ToT on Turkey Day? Hell yeah, I'm thankful AF! The editing at 9:21 is perfectly executed, by the way! Well done!
On the Tormek you can actually use that trying stone they give you to make the stone cut coarser or smoother, it really makes a big difference, I was having the same problem but it works great
Get a small gear motor or old windshield wiper motor for the linear movement. A slotted radius arm could make the stroke length adjustable.
Awesome video as always. Happy Thanksgiving 😃
My thouts exactly
Using the cheapest part of an expensive knife sharpener, to make your own knife sharpener with the most expensive tool you own, is textbook TOT. Love it!
Those ice cutting special effects are just flawless!
That layout reminds me of Prusa-style 3D printers, you could rig up a stepper motor and run the stage back and forth with a simple belt drive. You could even replicate that idea using 3D printer bits and lengths of extrusion.
or get a wiper motor from the wreckers
if your knife has a folding handle you can use that as an angle guide just keep the folding mechanism at a 90° angle scraping the table with the end of the handle. you can vary the angle by using thinner or thicker piece of wood under the stone. less versatile than this but does the job. great idea on the moving stone though
I'd love to see it run at the same inches per minute as the Tormek. Perhaps a reciprocating saw could drive the unit with some stroke multiplying linkage. Great project.
the stone would have to move, full stroke, about 10 times per second!
Variable speed of course! Zip tie the trigger at juuust the right amount.
What's 600rpm among friends?@@ThisOldTony
@ThisOldTony Some years ago I did volunteer work in a woodworking shop, I used the Tormek to sharpen chisels, it's a fantastic machine, But the centre spindle was not stainless steel, and it can rust and split the stone. The spindle runs on nylon bearings which are replaceable. So your first job, for longevity of the stone and next video, is to machine a spindle out of stainless steel.
Oh, and a metal polish cream like Autosol smeared over the leather strop wheel works a absolute treat.👌
Bill Hicks had a great joke about getting “spaced out at a green light” 😂
The important thing here isn't whether your creation works or not, or how well it works. It's building a really deep understanding of the mechanics of sharpening, which pay off down the line in very interesting and unexpected ways.
damn TOT your metal cutting techniques are a pleasure to watch keep it up and thanks for the vid.
This screams to me, that's the dream in so many levels. Obviously the part of having consistency and perfect sharp edges on all my knives, but mostly the ability to build something just because. You sir, is my goal in life.
thanks M'2127!
Simply cant get enough of tony's video's, i could easily watch 8 hours straight without going to the bathroom, i have no idols but if i did, Tony and Mr.Pete would be them !
ToT, you're a sharp fellow!
My father always used cannon fuse and cold beer for cutting stuff in the shop, but the smell and the smoke was horrible, especially when he cut old railroad ties that way.
Finally a new video! Love your Videos and they realy got me started on wanting to machine at home.
This is… amazing. I’m honestly jealous! I’ve been freehand sharpening for just over 8 years. I know that you can get those fancy jigs with tiny stones. But this, this will take any standard-sized stone and not even bat an eye. Aside from using a faster drive system, a 120-grit whetstone, maybe a shapton glass or Koramaku, heck, even an Atoma 140 diamond plate would get you blazing through establishing new or fixing damaged edges. The coarsest Norton Crystolon is also a 120 grit if you want to use an oilstone
Interesting. I've also been sharpening for just over 8 years.
With the consistency of that jig, the atoma 140 would set the bevel in just a few passes. That would be super handy.
If you are into very sharp knives I can recommend the book "Knife Deburring: Science behind the lasting razor edge" by Dr. Vadim Kraichuk, the best book on the topic in my opinion. There is also a dedicated chapter on Tormek sharpening for different types of steel.
Hi Tony, I work as an engineer in special machinery and I use a lot of those linear rails. Please put in the small caps to cover the screw holes otherwise you will ruin the seal of the runner block. Sorry if my englisch is a little broken.
Greetings from Austria.
I don't care about knifes or sharpening them, but to hear you rambling about it is good enough for me
Just want to say I really appreciate the time you put into these videos, it shows
Thanks LAR!
Damn it Tony, not only do you make me want a bunch of Shop machines for my non-existent shop but now, You make me want tools machines that don't even exist!
Also, it's all well and good to be a Jig enjoyer, but don't go off the deep end into Hootenanny's.
I know you're probably a busy guy with a family and everything. But I really do miss your videos
Dear Tony there's a channel called Sharup. He has a very similar thing that is driven by a simple motor with like an offset pin on a wheel and attached with a piece of leather. I'm not describing it well but it's in every video. Thanks bro. You are by far my favorite TH-camr
I’m a thankful that you spend the time to perform intelligently silly pranks and comments so I can smile
We've watched you describe how your coworker eats an apple, and how you obliviously helped a patient escape a special clinic next door. You think we DON'T want tangents?!
I use tormek professionally and have made some my own jigs. I would love to see what you are going to come up with. :)
Hyperspace Bypass Pruner Jig!
Everytime one i see one of Tony's videos has droppeed, I have a moment of pure joy. Much love from down under
Tony, when you set your bevel angle, you're not taking into account the primary grind angle of the knife (I'm guessing between 3 and 5 degrees.)
You have to subtract half that figure to get an accurate bevel measurement.
Love your work 👍 🍻
FYI, the best Japanese knife making houses use large, spinning, flat discs of abrasive in a water bath to do final sharpening.
As a professional full time sharpener, who had been a big fan of tormek for years, welcome to the club!
Edit: omg. I got noticed by the Ol' T himself! Happy start to my day.
I legitimately look forward to all of your videos TOT. I got hooked on cutting edge engineering's channel while I wait. Happy Thanksgiving
9:17 It took several re-plays to take the edge off the awe I felt when I first saw this happen. 😮 Impressive trick!
….I thought gifts were supposed to wait until Christmas, but here’s TOT giving us a great gift on Thanksgiving.
I have used many methods to cut aluminum and your way is the cleanest I have ever seen
Great to see a new video!
Shurap, a blacksmith from Ukraine, had a similar jig. But he attaches the knife to the jug and holds the sand paper. But you could check out the machine, it's pretty neat.
This is exactly why I love TH-cam! You learn new tricks…what you did with the string and ice….can’t wait to try this out.
This old Tony, a pioneer in excellent cinematography copied by many, mastered by one! TOT
Your content never fails to provide laughs and learning. Your wit is unmatched!
That ice cutting demonstration was "chef's kiss" good
Nothing makes my day as much as scrolling thru TH-cam and finding out you posted a video hope all is!
Some things never get old, and this old Tony will never get old...
You know it’s gonna be a good day when this ol Tony drops another vid. Thanks man. I was feening for it lol.
I've been running a Tormek for about 25-30 years now, and honestly wouldn't want to live without one. One of my most important tools.
Videos always to the point. Sharp as ever. Half a million Views is crazy
The different ways you "cut" metal are like my favorite thing about the channel
ToT:
*Buys Tormek after years of pining for one, immediately cannibalises it for just 3 parts - 2 knobs and a bend metal rod..
Love it!! ❤
Thanks, as usual, for the chuckles Tony 😅 👍
The ice cubes got me crackin😂😂😂 and its an awesome way to size down the aluminum materail like that.🎉🎉🎉😂😂
This guy is by far the best…at all of his stuff!
You're the best, Tony. We loves ya.
Wonderful, I love it! I help out a Repair Cafés 6x a year. Some 2y ago I was asked whether I'd be willing to carry my T-8 over to start offering knives and scissors sharpening as a sort of "repair". Since the T-8 is underused at my workshop I was more than happy to do so. I've been completely booked out every time since then. I now sharpen 4h non-stop 6x at Repair Cafés. The households in this area probably have the sharpest tools on average in the whole country by now :)
One thing to keep in mind is that the "dulling" of the TORMEK wet stone over time may be remedied by refurbishing/flattening the surface with the diamond jig. Sometimes there's too much iron embedded into the surface of the wheel. The TORMEK is useful in my opinion to restore a concave shape on the cutting edge when it took some abuse, but not for regular sharpening: it takes away too much material. While washing away the abraded material on a flat wet stone is easy, it probably slows down sharpening ... I'm told that one should keep the aluminium or whatever sludge on the flat stone during sharpening.